Jyotisha - Science or Superstition? | In Conversation with PVR Narasimha Rao
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2020
- Disclaimer: Infinity Foundation has conducted the interview with the guest only on the domain expertise that he has in the field of Jyotisha. Infinity Foundation is not responsible and may or may not subscribe to any of his views held on any subject.
Infinity Foundation presents a discussion between Narasimha Rao, IITian, and Vijaya Vishwanathan about Jyotish, and they discuss whether it is Science or Superstition.
PVR Narasimha Rao has a bachelors degree from IIT, Madras and a masters degree from Rice University, Houston and lives in greater Boston where he works as a firmware manager at a top semiconductor firm. He received "Sanskrita Bhasha Kovida" and "Sanskrita Bhasha Visharada" diplomas at an age of 11 and combines his Sanskrit knowledge with scientific temper to conduct fresh research into the teachings of rishis.
He is an astrology researcher, author, teacher and also the author of popular Jyotish software "Jagannatha Hora" used by many Vedic astrologers and students across the world. Thousands of spiritual seekers are performing daily homa (fire ritual) for the dawn of a new Dharmik era on earth and individual spiritual progress, using free and simplified homa manuals on his website (www.VedicAstrologer.org).
In this video, they talk about Science, and how it is actually a very broad term and encompasses a lot more than what the popular science culture wants people to believe. They talk about the term Shastra and what does it mean? And how our Shastra and Sciences are related to the 'Nadis' in the human body. What solar and lunar balancing within the human body and which nadis help us achieve that?
Astrology allows you to combine different thinking processes: intuitive, emotional, and logical.
The most interesting aspect of the discussion is how Mr. Narasimha Rao lost faith in Astrology, because of the hard and structured way of approaching Science. Listen to know what made him regain interest in Astrology.
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How many of you are interested in re-analyzing Jyotish after watching this discussion?
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Hello sir , why am not seeing any UA-cam ads on your channel? Did UA-cam try to demonitize your channel? Please upload the same video in any other similar platforms like UA-cam.(Ex. YouKu ) it's an UA-cam alternative in China.
IHO: We have always been a country of truth seekers. But one sided interview with experts who most probably have financial interests is hardly following vedic or upanishad tradition of healthy debate . Its time we recognize flaws of Astrology and promulgate those than promote it as science. detailed views are in comments section. Thank you.
Yes. He has cleared doubts about twins or triplets. Jyotisha shastra to be seen with intuition. Thanks fr video share @Rajiv ji
@@alpeshmittal3779 Alpesh Mittal Namaskaram, Dude why so much fire up in your a**. This one video will not make people accept it as a science. Let people debate, contest, argue it. I am sure you do not know Indian Jyotishi enough to discard it as a pseudo-science or else you would have not bothered bickering senseless immaterial nonsense. Let people lister and decide for themselves or pursue their own path of enquiry, debate discuss and understanding.
How do you produce knowledge in a scientific way?
You observe.
Make a theory.
Design experiments to test the theory
And based on evidence from the test you either confirm or modify your theory.
Now if Jyotishi has to survive it has to go through this test and it will go. Now please allow me to give you a hint on why moon, planets, star constellation, comets may affect our behaviour or events. If you understand that everything in this universe is connected, if you do not, alright, let's me explain through another approach, scientifically you have to understand that all the things that are reaching Earth, beyond the Mother Earth, of course, will affect lives on this planet. For example, we are getting *EM waves* (mostly visible light and beyond- of larger wavelengths; UV and smaller wavelengths are filtered by 03-Ozone layer making the evolution of complex life processes possible on the planet by forming complex molecules), which is *light* and that is *Jyoti* is reaching earth all the time 24x7x365, but, not same everywhere or every moment. Because the earth rotates, revolves and so does other astronomical objects. Now, one may ask how would that impact a person behaviour or events on the planets? Good question. The first EM waves falling upon you surely going to have an impact that is why the exact moment is also needed I suppose. But, then, you may ask Sunlight is more powerful than all the other EM waves that are reaching the planet at least during the day which pale in comparisons. Good question. I have given you a hint now you need to do your own seeking.
On a side note, I don’t think Jyotishi is going to of any use when people are hungry, as does the bullet trains or any such discovery or invention. Or society, it was better if we would have lived as tribes and have not to worry about all these bullshittery (well actually still a non-negligible portion of human lives do live as a tribe or have decayed into living as tribes- Afg, Balo, Libya, Syria etc, in India, I suppose, mostly it has been by choice for living with nature). But, we did come together to live as a society and because of our nature of mind, we have discovered, invented a lot of things. Not everything is needed all the time, for all the people in all the situation.
Now don’t go on crying that I am comparing Jyotishi to bullet train. I am just giving you a plain naive example that they bother render themselves useless if we live as a tribe where our primary goal is to collect food and survive.
I am doing my own seeking and I strongly urge you to do your own. I am not saying you to blindly listen to anyone but don't be blind and try to be humble enough to know that we do not know all the things and everything. Even if we used to know in the past then surely it is not true in the present that is why some form of knowledge should also keep updating.
You writing all these things without having done any of your own studies is not only ignorance but shows your inability to learn new things and be open new or old ideas.
And lastly understanding Jyotishi and using it in your life may help in your living but one still needs to perform their Karma to make thing happen. Consider it as a predictive tool where a well-read and learned person will be able to predict better compared to the less fortunate ones who may not account for all the factors, like any other stream of science, where you have a good scientist and a bad one.
Sorry for ranting. Please don’t mind the typos and mistakes. If you get the gist it serves the purpose otherwise do as you feel like. You have a good day.
Sir how can we donate.. Who are abroad... Plz give us link too
The contributions of PVR Narasimha Rao ji Can't be thanked enough. He is an inspiration. He has given around 200 lessons on Jyotish as free audio lectures. A software to use and has given a lot of interviews and talks and what not on this Knowledge of light. 🙏🙏🙏
Shree PVNR is the genius inventor of the JHora software which has amazing capabilities, matching the best available Jyothish software selling for many $$$s. JHora is completely free, which shows the magnanimous nature of Shree PVNR.
JHora is amazing....superb....and generously offered free... thank you PVR Narasimha Rao ji🙏
Srinidhi Parashar it depends on the Ayanamsa selected in options. Depends on what panchangam was used by your astrolger Vaak or Drik. Try changing options in Jhora.
It's GREAT software for Astrologer/Jyotishi. I wish it would also churn out some report for novice like me (general predictions).
@@srinidhiparashar165 there are so many setting inJ Hora,you plz try to understand the settings first and you might find the reason for discrepancies.traditional lahiri,lahiri,Surya siddhantha which ayamsha are you using in J Hora?which did the astrologer used who made your birth chart.all this and more needs to be done in settings inJ Hora.
Sri Narasimha Rao is a man of knowledge and through people like him only we get to glance a bit of this body of great ancient knowledge called Hinduism! Thank you sir for inspiring us!
When you light up the lamp of awareness the ignorance and fear disappear. Pranams from Mauritius!!
Good software Jagannatha Hora. Thanks to Narasimha Rao.
Namaste!!
Future of India? Need part 2.
This NRI's going to become our cultural saviour !!!
His predictions regarding India are really very interesting. May God bless bharat and sri.narasimha rao that what ever sri.pingali Rao predicted comes true. May bharat lead the world.
5.5 million Manuscripts
Over every topic, and Astrology is one of them
I heard it was 40 million, but the question is, where are they available and what do we do to access them?
And why have they not been digitized yet, it would barely take a year with a small team.
@@daruiraikage Most of Sanskrit libraries have digitised their documents or are in the process of digitising their documents
@@daruiraikage first we should PATENT them so that noone can claim them as theirs!!!
@@liliesandtulips2000 patents dont work the way u think. They would better work by making it national treasure with UNESCO tag. But all the laws simply dont give correct justice only increase bueracracy. The knowledge systems of Vedic era work differently.
@@lolvivo8783 How does that knowledge system actually work? Can you please elaborate...
Amazing discussion with PVNR Ji. I've learned a lot from your audio lessons.
Eagerly waiting for the remaining part and predictions on current situations...
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Team Rajiv Malhotra, thanks from bringing our traditional studies to forefront. #Kudos 🙏🏽
Thankyou sir for this video
People like you give hope that ancient Indian knowledge will one day get what it truly deserve
More interviews of him and more elaborated ones....
He has his own youtube channel and a website with great free resources
very nice to see an objective / scientific view of this topic.
Harih Om. This is one of the best videos I've seen on the subject.
Amazing information for people having interst in astrology and science both ... Kudos !
Much liked this interview.Felt it ended abruptly.Waiting for several lengthy videos from Vijaya Vishwanathan.
I would like to thank infinity foundation for bringing him on board 🙏
Great Effort.Thanks for bring Narasimha Rao He is one of the greatest person,who simply Astrology
Wow. This is incredible.
What a clear way to define the Shastra ! Structured + Intuition = Complete Vedic Knowledge
Narsimha rao garu, thank you so much for your work ...🙏
Thank you soo much for bringing him.
Jai Shri Raam ❤️
Awesome session! This short session might turn a non believer into a believer
Waiting for the rest of the interview. This is a subject of particular interest to me. I also had a feeling it was connected to ayurveda because of the nature of houses and their relation with basic elements. And then after seeing an earlier video on ayurveda where there was a discussion about referring to Jyotish in some cases, I knew I was thinking correctly. For me these are all tools to understand myself more. Theres so much left to do there....
Thank you bringing these kind of great people
Thank you Rajivji and Vijayaji for the interview!
Very Enlightening. Hyper rationalists must have got a chill pill
Rajivji greatest thing happened to me
Really interesting conversation. Please do let us know if there is a study group of young people studying Jyotish. Specially Ganit Jyotish
Wow.... beautifully explained... thank you 🙏
We are in the cusp of a Renaissance..well said sir
Excellent discussion.
Mr. Narasimha Rao ji is a very smart and kind individual. I am a Jyothishi with a background in Engineering and postgraduate education and work experience in Marketing, Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in the USA. I use PVR Narasimha Rao ji's Jagannatha Hora software for preparing Jyothish charts. The reason I mentioned my Engineering background is to show that Jyothisha Shastra is not superstition, it's a definitely valid Shastra with a lot of data supporting it. Otherwise, someone with this kind of engineering background would not accept it. I thank Mr. Rao for his great work in this Shastra and selflessly sharing his software and knowledge.
Respect Sir..I also do not accept money for astrology..Try to help all and spread the awareness on Astrology
Sir u r very correct ..I am one of Twins..We both are very different... Education, career,wealth,and health also...Our time is only 7 to 8 mints.. Different...Even tho...This much different life...I am doing astrology course as my interest...Bt he dint so so many different things in our both life...Thank you...
Very nicely explained.
Very good info vijayaji
We consider Maha raj PV NR IS AN AVATHAR(LOOK AT HIS OVAL SHAPED HEAD)OHM NAMASIVAYA,
Super info
Check this one. He's a genius. Pranam Guruji. 🙏
ua-cam.com/video/tyzkh1y4DF4/v-deo.html
excellent session
Jyotish is not superstition , it's origin the word 'Jyotish' means Study of Light giving satellites (pinda) Astrology .
1.Our Astrology is based on belief that Earth was the center of the world (please google and check before posting your replies) and not Sun (modern science). Every ancinet culture has made this mistake. So its ok we were wrong, but not alright to continue with false belief.
2. We did not even know how many planets are there in solar system (yuranus ,neptune and pluto are completely absent).
3.Are there any predictions from Indian Astrologers about where the world is going:No. Science fiction writers have been proved more prophetic in that regard.
4. Coming this from an IITian says it all about sorry state of Our intellectuals. People would tend to believe more even if WRONG claim is coming from an position of authority (IITians are epitome of intelligence in India, how wrong are we). This is well known logic fallacy (position of authority logic fallacy check)
5. Why People think astrology works: ua-cam.com/video/CRGBGej0O34/v-deo.html
Conclusion: Astrology is B...C....
@@alpeshmittal3779 where did you read that earth is centre of Universe ?
I think you have misconception . You'd better to read Varahamihir's book Brihat-Samhita.
Nice to see insight on Jyotish. Please continue to share your knowledge
I had like to add@ 2:45 (learned @ISKCON)
Shastra and shastra has same dhatu 'sh' related to mean 'seperate/cut'. The scriptural 'shastra' cuts our attachment to matter whereas the physical 'shastra' cut the body 'sharira' meaning that which is seperate from 'atma'. There are other composite derivatives from same dhatu like kshatriya, kshati, etc. I am not a scholor though so i could have misunderstood.
You are wright, neglect it
@@sistasarma390 ??! Cant get what u mean
@lzydwg dhatu is 'sh'
Just wow
What a great person
We want more of him soon, please. The video was too short.
Brilliant man and his explanation is very logical. His knowledge is solid and based on intense study. With apologies, his pronunciation/diction is a little difficult to understand. Would be helpful if there were subtitles. 🙏
why dont infinity foundation starts universities and schools in every states of india in various school of indian thought like xlri, st stephens etc.
They will start after you give the funding for it.
Thank you sir, so inspiring to learn your profile. I have inclined interest in firmware engineering for the work interest and astrology as something that appeals to me. My grandfather was a well known astrologer, Hoping to explore this field slowly.
Can you please advise how to get started or if there are any formal online courses with English/Malayalam interpretation you know of?
Rajiv ji Bring him again and talk about Homam movement he and his guru Manish Ji has started. Many many people are doing Homam only bcz his efforts... Please talk about it with him...
1. I am a skeptic once but once i learnt jyotisha myself I has no doubt it has some mystical elements.
2. I predicted month and year of jobs, marriages etc on horoscopes.
3. Having said that people have free will and astrologers knowledge also shows the accuracy. So there are really few great astrologers who can give atmost 70 percentage like kn rao or sanjay rath ,pv r narasimha rao
4. People should read the jyotisha themselves and decide.
5. Puranas contain the nakshatra info and the jyotisha to an extent. Ofcourse ancient peoole used astrology but more than that they followed karma yoga.
6. Mahabharat has many verses on astronomy and astrology also.
7. So please have open mind and understand but jyotisha became bussiness by greedy people who caused most harm .
i have a confusion , with there days majority births being c sections, how is jyotisha still able to predict, is it from the time a child is conceived or from the time it takes a breath ? if the parents choose the time of C sections then its their choice , the karma of the child cant change because of the time of C section or can they ? I am a from a a science background with strong analytical capabilities. what is the basis of jyotisha in case of c sections in today's world
Can u tell about me 😞
@Ashok kumar. plz can u do it for me
Intresting
Thanks for JHora narasimha rao ji
We want more videos of your talk Sir.
Sri gurubhyo namah
Great
Jjai Hind Jai bharath
It’s amazing
Please predict Tamil Nadu election 2021
Which party will win ?
I have Bhrihat Jathakam in tamil by C G Rajan... ( Varaha horai from Varaha mitrar ) .
Is there any tamil translated book for bhrihat parasara horai ( which pvr refers )
Though not perfect, the English translation by Sri R. Santhanam is a good start.
Thank you for your profound insights in the video.
I have a question which is out of curiosity and not to challenge anything, please do not take it wrong.
When in video, you quote that the things were written in a mystical way so that there is an intentional possibility of ambiguity. Does that mean the knowledge would always reside in the hands of the learned and would never be transcended to the seeker in a way it has to be? Selflessly?
If this is correct then generation after generation there would be a possible dilution of this sacred knowledge with the lack of affirmation. And how does the seeker ask for that selfless knowledge without any ambiguity?
Please guide.
Namaskar sir
@Narsimharao Sir what do you mean by intuition?
Need contineous videos its a trilor
Sir I was a non believer but something happened in my life that changed my life. I have never experienced anything like that ever in my life. I am practicing brahmacharya for past 2 years. I use to be an alcoholic and a chain smoker. 2 years clean without any near death experience.
Sir i have a small querry raised from little confusion, original text attributed to Rishi Parashara u mentioned, in those text are Varas like Somvaar, Guruvaar etc mentioned. Because i heard in some other talks that this 7 days vara system is borrowed from anatolia/babylonia region during interaction with Yavani people during 3 rd BCE to 5th century AD. If it is mentioned in Parashara's text them it creates further confusion because then the text may have been updated because in ved-shakahas text related to homas and yagnas, Vaaras are not mentioned.
I am following infinity foundation. Have made very nice videos on Western invasion,..yoga, philosophy.. so on.
I didn't expect they would promote astrology, I hope this channel will not become like another astrology channel or a TV astrology programs.
@lzydwg you give me 4-5 points on astrology.
I don't want you to provide me any copy paste job.
It's science.
best
Please read the book" Holy science" available at Self realization fellowship centres in USA and yogoda satsang society of India established by Sri paramahamsa yogananda .That book is written by a yogi whose consciousness is stabilised in sushumna naadi, by practice of Kiya yoga. This book will revolutionise the present day understanding of jyotishya sastra.researchers like PVR will gain immensely from that book upon the calculation of yugas and kaalachakra .Sri swami yukteswar has deep intuition which is born out of samadhi meditation. And all his writings are result of direct experience of truth in nirvikalpa Samadhi.
Namaste sir.. tried to access ur website.. unable to reach it .. is there any other way to contact u pls
Acharya 🙏🙏🙏
The interview is incomplete. Where is the rest of the interview. Is it yet to be done....please I am keen to listen the full interview. Already know about him and his work....highly erudite, please reply
👍
Plz send me Jhora software in my link
Congratulations for your accurate predictions. Great men thinks alike. Brahakumaries said same thing. I am an astrologer of Kolkata. Plz guide me and suggest me few suggestions for the profession. Thank u.
In context of Twins having same chart but different life.. There is also KARMA SIDDHANTA which you carry from your pastlifetimes..
That applies for everyone, not just twins..Here what the speaker indicates is the criticality of precise accurate time recording in seconds, as well as the.shastra that can utilise it.
To differentiate the difference between twins and triplets we need to use Krishnamurti Paddhati.
Shashtiamsa , but since it requires precise time cause it changes very 2 minutes but he wouldn't touch it cause it's very very risky and the details about how to use it is difficult to use .
This is not the full interview
Pl make software for Mac
People who know any basics of astrology know JaganadhaHora.
Out of all wide India a NRI have to do a software himself with no funding from anyone
BPHS has 7/8Version Available. There is a great Differnces of Shlokas in them. Which Version do you Consider the Most Standard and Authentic one ???
Please Reffer and Mention Sir.
any comments on sudarshana jyotisha?
with my limited understanding i am convinced that any shastra delving for a matured sadhaka depends on his individual sadhana. for example for an advaita sadhaka his sadhana is in his manana - how intently he has been able to single pointed thinking within. This "intutition" that arises is the effect of ones sadhana. This "intutition" alone solves the cryptic & mystical teachings of the shastra.
💯 Agree
Astrology is a science but bakhtiyar khilji burnt nalanda and our ancient science also turned to ashes
IMHO... it's a nonlinear multivarariate analytics 🙏
As interesting as this discussion is, the central question remains unanswered - does astrology lend itself to scientific evaluation?
To me, unless there are prospective and retrospective studies done on astrological frameworks and predictions, it will remain a matter of belief/faith and not a branch of credible science.
It’s a catch 22 situation - procuring funding for deep research into astrology is hard (read impossible) to come by. And without research into astrology, using modern scientific tools/methods, it stands as neither validated, nor falsified.
1.Our Astrology is based on belief that Earth was the center of the world (please google and check before posting your replies) and not Sun (modern science). Every ancinet culture has made this mistake. So its ok we were wrong, but not alright to continue with false belief.
2. We did not even know how many planets are there in solar system (yuranus ,neptune and pluto are completely absent).
3.Are there any predictions from Indian Astrologers about where the world is going:No. Science fiction writers have been proved more prophetic in that regard.
4. Coming this from an IITian says it all about sorry state of Our intellectuals. People would tend to believe more even if WRONG claim is coming from an position of authority (IITians are epitome of intelligence in India, how wrong are we). This is well known logic fallacy (position of authority logic fallacy check)
5. Why People think astrology works: ua-cam.com/video/CRGBGej0O34/v-deo.html
Conclusion: Astrology is B...C....
@@alpeshmittal3779 you live on earth, hence astrology considers earth as center. If you live on sun then sun would be considered as center. Don't comment without knowing ABCD of astrology.
@@alpeshmittal3779 : There would have been some credibility on what you wrote if you have really spent your time in learning Sanskrit and Astrology from competent gurus. In the absence of the same you are only making outlandish statements on subjects you knew nothing.
@rf4life that was huge. I'll read it again. Your effort makes my jaw drop in awe.
@rf4life Erudite will check the links you provided. Thank you,enormously!
Sir, you have very nicely explained the variation in jyotisha of twins. I have one doubt. In case of two boys, suppose, born to two different couples with different background, but born at the same time and at the same place, whether their jyotisha will be same. This is only for my knowledge sake not to test you. Kindly explain. One more question is that during this period jyotishas are talking about retrograde of some grahas till September. How this is explained in the modern science.
Always apply desh,kaal,patra. As the patra is different, their life will not be same, yes their good and bad time will at the same time but in different intensity, the son of the king may become king and the son of the business man may become head of a new business...
Is it possible to tell the past ?
You said write sir parashar theory was not translate in the right way
గురువుగారు మీది ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్లో ఏ ఊరు చెప్పగలరు ? Thank you!
Machilipatnam, AP
Prediction should not be the true intent of Jyotisha. A good wise Jyotish pandit is the one who prepares you well to face any situation.
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Science if the Astrologer is honest when the child is born the family makes the kundali throughs jyotisha. It is big culture.
Small correction, it is Jyothishya not Jyothisha😀
Something can only be ‘science’ if it follows the scientific method. With hypothesis, observations, analysis and conclusion.
Does astrology have this? Is it a study of correlations? Is there a journal where research is published and disseminated? How are ovservations written and analysed
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