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Sub and outlaw are looking strong in PTR testing. Likely going to Alt Sub for 10.2 unless some random nerfs hit. Assasination just doesnt have the damage to be used when Outlaw and Sub can perform so much better.
SUB is strong on live. Not unreasonably overpowered in an inexperienced players hand, but when played well is feels like an S tier spec (in PVP) on 10.2 live for sure, without any tier gear. Really enjoying it. Hits as hard as Ret with more CC, mortal strike, mobility, and on demand in and out of combat stealth, all which Ret is lacking. In battlegrounds it is super fun to nuke one enemy, and then another during a shadowy duel so their teammates cant save them.
Really wish they'd bring back the concept behind shadow dance was the unlock stealth based abilities, that were stronger because they were stealth, not a 30% damage buff. more more damage into backstab/Shadowstrike and the value of haste goes up and fixes one of the main issues with sub
@@trebortnulb5279 god yes. absolutely no reason shadow dance should give a blanket 30% damage buff. make eviscerate just hit harder baseline and shadow dance's power comes from the frequency of eviscerate casts not a 30% buff for no reason. it feels awful to play that you have to set up around secret technique with shadow dance because of the 54% buff from SD and Dance Macabre. it really feels shitty. FAR too many positive feedback loops in the spec where if you break one loop it a slog to get back into them
Outlaw looks 1000x better at the moment on PTR. Since the regen nerf, sub is struggling very hard. It is nice inside shadowblades but since that is off, you are basically doing noodle damage. Hopefully they'll address the regen changes soon. On the other side, Outlaw is the GOD at the moment, one of the best specs in the game, I'm doing insane ST and AOE damage. Hopefully won't get nerfed into the ground.
been saying this for awhile now, sub damage baseline needs a huge buff, remove Dance macabre and the 30% blanket damage from shadow dance and lower free energy gains. this make it so Shadow dance's power is the frequency of finisher casts, not the power. value of haste comes out of the gutter too, and rogues do more damage outside of Dance
Might as well just change the name of the channel from Marcelian Online to Flame Online with how little Marcelian actually participates 😂 keep up the good work Mr. Flame
They really needs to move acrobatic strikes to not having to sacrifice damage for utility, will feel so cringe playing assa/outlaw having longer melee range and swapping to sub you suddenly loosing that..
@@MarcelianOnline Glad you are happy with yourself rn, that's only important thing. I would still consider growing back beard at least ;) keep up with good videos 👋
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Just wanted to say. Its pretty dang fun to watch your vids before some game play. You content is really entertaining and i just love it.
Feels like i need a second keyboard to fit in all my buttons for rogue!
its still pretty low on the charts but that just takes tuning i suppose. Here is hoping we see rogue see its full potential after these reworks
Much nuts, very rogue. Wow!
Thank you :)
Glad you enjoyed it Lorks! A different take on using shadow :P
Sub and outlaw are looking strong in PTR testing. Likely going to Alt Sub for 10.2 unless some random nerfs hit. Assasination just doesnt have the damage to be used when Outlaw and Sub can perform so much better.
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@@sublimeunderstanding2214 why are you sad? I wanted assasination to be strong too if thats it.
SUB is strong on live. Not unreasonably overpowered in an inexperienced players hand, but when played well is feels like an S tier spec (in PVP) on 10.2 live for sure, without any tier gear. Really enjoying it. Hits as hard as Ret with more CC, mortal strike, mobility, and on demand in and out of combat stealth, all which Ret is lacking. In battlegrounds it is super fun to nuke one enemy, and then another during a shadowy duel so their teammates cant save them.
i think i might need to go back to rogue this is amazing
Now I need to see outlaw to see what I’m main 10.2 sub is lookin good
Really wish they'd bring back the concept behind shadow dance was the unlock stealth based abilities, that were stronger because they were stealth, not a 30% damage buff. more more damage into backstab/Shadowstrike and the value of haste goes up and fixes one of the main issues with sub
God no.
@@trebortnulb5279 god yes. absolutely no reason shadow dance should give a blanket 30% damage buff. make eviscerate just hit harder baseline and shadow dance's power comes from the frequency of eviscerate casts not a 30% buff for no reason. it feels awful to play that you have to set up around secret technique with shadow dance because of the 54% buff from SD and Dance Macabre. it really feels shitty. FAR too many positive feedback loops in the spec where if you break one loop it a slog to get back into them
odd how much people like it then eh?@@user-rl6ve6bp2b
I’m sad they fixed the secret technique double dipping bug. I was hitting them for 200-300k at times. Now it’s just 150 ish on crust.
hot damn baby sheesh!
Outlaw looks 1000x better at the moment on PTR. Since the regen nerf, sub is struggling very hard. It is nice inside shadowblades but since that is off, you are basically doing noodle damage. Hopefully they'll address the regen changes soon. On the other side, Outlaw is the GOD at the moment, one of the best specs in the game, I'm doing insane ST and AOE damage. Hopefully won't get nerfed into the ground.
jinxed :(
been saying this for awhile now, sub damage baseline needs a huge buff, remove Dance macabre and the 30% blanket damage from shadow dance and lower free energy gains. this make it so Shadow dance's power is the frequency of finisher casts, not the power. value of haste comes out of the gutter too, and rogues do more damage outside of Dance
it's about time.
damn straight man, enjoy :P
I already main sub just hit 3k IO I am so excited about this! Can barely sleep haha 😅
Slower gameplay for a sneaky class that should be fast sucks. Looks like they killed Sub Rogue to me.
I like it / shrug. People will complain regardless
they already changed the goremaw cd to 45sec. lets see how it plays out. can't wait
Yes baby rogues do it from behind hahaha. Thanks for the updates !
I love to one shot mages
@@MarcelianOnline sub spec rotation is too weird for me man idk it doesn’t feel smooth ! And it’s a main rogue on Vanilla / wotlk talking 😅
Ayyyeeooo let's go rogues and 1st!
It's rogue time baby! Sub and Sin lookin fire already!
Might as well just change the name of the channel from Marcelian Online to Flame Online with how little Marcelian actually participates 😂 keep up the good work Mr. Flame
hm, maybe. Not gonna get hype before I see it on live. Blizz never gets rogue or shaman right and I have no faith in them doing it now.
Fair, but this has been baller for me as a non rogue player!
Shit... we lost our shield from Vanish
Guess it's a good thing he nailed sun because he scuffed havoc.
wait this all sounds like sub rogue will tear anyone apart in arena
They really needs to move acrobatic strikes to not having to sacrifice damage for utility, will feel so cringe playing assa/outlaw having longer melee range and swapping to sub you suddenly loosing that..
Yea true, let's see how it plays out in 10.2
The rogue dev unfortunately doesn't want Sub to use it/be able to get it without sacrificing, so gonna be a bit cringe unfortunately.
Who is the DH rework ? 😅
Dunno but he better come here quick!
Looking at my new main here good bye demonology
Decent transition tbh :D
Great video love it. But dudee what happend to your beard and hair? You looked way cooler before. From like Metal to geek, sry to say.
ahaha all good, i am a geek though, plus before i was fat and stressed and felt like shit, the changes i made were necessary 😀
@@MarcelianOnline Glad you are happy with yourself rn, that's only important thing. I would still consider growing back beard at least ;) keep up with good videos 👋
that's a lotta nuts!
What she said
joeroguen im ded
Okay so Rog will be stay as S-Tier 😅 more burst dmg this will be funny in pvp 😂
cry
@@blackwomangamer2637 why should i cry?
Im gonna main sub rogue again hehehe the hunter goes into alts XD letsgooo
Of course.. rogues are always op
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its useless when you cant even one shot people euqal to your item level
fuck it igo play my paladin🤣