Surface Pro 11 and 10 - Side by Side - Battery, Screen & Performance Comparisons.
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2024
- Continuing comparisons between the SP10 & SP11. Side by Side.
Interestingly enough, LLM seems to be twice as fast on the Snapdragon O.O
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Very interesting. Checking the exact power consuption is something that more reviewers should be doing!
@@curio78 I think a 3 trillion dollar company knows what has advantage, considering they went all in on snapdragon.
That was a great comparison. I'm honestly getting a bit tired of the "reviews" comparing them to Macs - what we need is a comparison to x64 Windows. The fact you were able to get virtually the same machine in both trims is perfect. Thanks for that
Nice to know the snapdragon can hang with the intel model and be twice as efficient in some cases
The Pro 10 has anti-reflective coating which probably explains in bright conditions it appears to have deeper blacks. Buying matte AR screen protector should help a bit in theory with the 11 Pro.
What about the Pro 11 LCD? Guessing it doesn't get the anti reflection?
@@DanielHarrisCodes Yes no AR as well I believe (at least not spec'd). It was said this was done to not reduce brightness. Either way I have good experience with matte AR screen protector but I don't often watch movies so that might look better with more glossy protector.
I compared 11 OLED with 11 IPS in store and black levels were very similar. Granted under bright lights so not typical. OLED was way too warm (reddish tint) but settings were locked so couldn't adjust it. There was more dynamic range but I really had to look for it. For extra $500 I'm not sold on the OLED personally but possibly it would perform better in darker conditions.
Apparently Qualcomm is coming out with new drivers in a couple of weeks.. Not sure if it will be enough for compatibility and most of the reviews won't get updated sadly.. Thanks for the tests👍
That's cool. Any source for that info? I'm interested.
Looking forward to that!
Good comparison, it's perfect to get real values between X64 and ARM64.
@cbutters Do you recommend the Surface Pro 10 for Business or shall we wait another year just to get an Intel consumer version?.
Waiting for your recommendation in order to make an educated purchase. Many thanks in advance!.
when comparing displays, did you set the SP11 to HDR off with vivid profile enabled? The SP10 doesn't have HDR I think. By default, HDR will make the display look warmer and more flat. That's because it's getting the wrong tonemapping information. Most content is not encoded in HDR so when non-HDR content is tonemapped to an HDR display, it will look somewhat dull. OLED helps mask some of that dullness but it'll still be dull. Windows still does not handle HDR content well. For proper presentation of HDR content, the player you use has to be designed for HDR, the display has to have HDR enabled, and the HDR content has to have the correct HDR profile. For example, if the content was tonemapped for HDR10 versus Dolby Vision. So Microsoft knows that much content is HDR. So they have a feature called AutoHDR which guesses the tonemapping. Sometimes it works well, other times not so well. When in doubt, set the machine to HDR off, Vivid on, adaptive color off, etc. etc. Then when you know you're watching HDR content in the proper player, set HDR to on. Vivid on the SP11 OLED is gorgeous so it's a good default.
I really can't wait to see what the 3nm Lunar lake does.
I honestly thought the intel would lose badly but it's not too shabby in terms of power consumption.
Perfect video that I needed, thanks for doing this review if possible kindly improve/fix whatever issue you have with your microphone.. Thanks again. New subber.
Finally! I needed a side by side screen test! Mind conparing the snap dragon elite vs snap dragon plus? In terms of screen and frame test! Cannot wait for a more arm friendly environment! Your fans + a tiny eGPU will do GODS WORK!!!
Hey kalin i'm testing the snap dragon x plus for gaming.. any games you'd like to see?
@@josher14 can u do rdr2 please?
@@themonkeyman2790 I tried rdr2 and it will get to the settings but won't load the game.. There's supposed to be beta drivers coming will have to retry soon
The sp11 has the background light reflection in the field of view off where the sp 10 doesn’t. Maybe that is why the blacks seems brighter than the sp10.
Are these calibrated brightness levels? I would like to see a equivalant screen tech as well. Otherwise this was orob the best video i have seen on the sd cpus .
Hi.. Great video and wish you the best bro, pls what keyboard are using for the surface pro 11 ? I have the pro 11 but with no keyboard and looking for a keyboard,thank youn
I have the Rii keyboard "bluetooth" but I also picked up an open box flex keyboard (still too expensive.) The microsoft solution is the best one, but I can't recommend it at full price at all. The Rii keyboard I had works fine, but sometimes is slow to wakeup, which can be infuriating.
Great comparison. Keep them coming. Q: Is the LCD display on the surface Pro 11 plus the same as the one found on the Surface pro 10? And if yes, does the surface pro 11 plus LCD also have an antireflective coating? Thanks
I don't have the Pro 11 LCD, so I can't answer that one, but I would imagine its using the exact same screen for ease of manufacturing.
Has the Surface 10 Ultra 5 Version also a 40W Limit? I thought they all had 25 W ???
I would be interested in seeing a SP9 to 10 comparison. Appreciate this is comparing arm to intel but if they would have released an intel SP11 then you may have had less power usage and speed increases purely due to better manufacturing processes. So it's hard to tell which of these improvements are due to arm Vs a new better CPU ( regardless of whether arm or intel )
We should hope Boeing is not using any snapdragon chipsets in their airplanes.
I'm very curious if a comparison between the V3 and the surface pro 11 😄
I wonder how it will fare on "balanced" my guess is intell will lose 10-20% performance and 30 to 50% power consumption?
What about the heat and fan noice from the intel version?
They both get hot enough to need a fan if you push them hard. When the fan is ramped up they both make the same amount of fan noise. Granted, the Snapdragon tends to ramp less often in normal usage.
@@cbutters Thanks!!!!
Looking forward to Lunar Lake
What is that for a keyboard on the left one?
It is a bluetooth wireless type cover from Rii (amazon: $40)
Well done
F to all buying the SP10 recently
OLED panel uses more power
X Elite is dead on arrival in front of IntelCoreUltra series 1 and 2
Copilot key on intel based surface 🤔
lol, the 165U DOES have an NPU, its just 10 TOPS instead of 45, also, most copilot functionality that actually exists barely touches the NPU anyways so far.
A question: What are the chances of a SP 12 with a Lunar lake CPU? Looks like Intel has a winner here: Low power consumption, high performance, and a very good iGPU.
I'd say its likely we see a Surface Pro device with an intel chip again. I'd love a Lunar Lake Surface Pro. I would even be thrilled if they launched a Intel version SP 11 or a SP10+ for business or something very quickly with Lunar Lake. But I doubt they will.
2 crap side by side 😂 Ryzen ai series will have field day with this two
More interested in that chip in a steam deck successor than a laptop tbh. We’ll see how efficient it really is there
This intel chip has 2 performance cores. There is an H variant with 4 more performance cores. So this is the best possible efficiency showing for Intel.
Idle on these X elites is prettymuch pathetic.
An m1max idles at around 0.2w
an m3pro under 0.1w
The 5.9w you're seeing in my video isn't just the cpu, it would includes the screen, wifi, SSD, mainboard and power conversion inefficiencies.
@@cbutters i call that BS. 4w combined idle for MTL is impossible
@@PKperformanceEU you see the power meter on the screen there. Perhaps ankers reading is not accurate, but that's what the meters are saying.