That is a very clear description of how to sharpen drill bits, I have recently got myself a new set of bits, and you notice the difference with the 4 facit edges, thanks for making the video, I feel more confident when making this purchase
Hello, german here, i found this vid better than original Tormeks, i bought this wonderful tool for my water grinder ( not Tormek, to expensive, but also good one weldinger 250) allthoughI‘m capable of sharpening bits,but, this is pure perfection 🥰❤️ Thanks for explaining Sir!
Hi Alan, I have just got this drill sharpening system and I have to say I find it superb. Your video made it very easy for me to set it up. All my old drill bits which were due to go to recycling have now been given a new life. Thanks for a great video.
Alan, not sure what you do for a living but this is one of the best demonstration videos I've seen. Thank you so much, pretty much made up my mind on which manufacture I want to purchase. Cheers!
Alan, I enjoyed this video. Thank you. I realise it was some time ago, you are still the professional I knew and respected from the days of visiting your shop. Good old days.
Great attachment.I have been sharpening all my drill bits by hand since I started my apprenticeship in1965.I will definitely buy one of these.I will continue passing on my hand drill bit sharpening skills to others .Regards Johnny.
I have watched a few of these videos on Tormek drill sharpening jig and yours by far made the understanding of it clear and simple , well done my friend , thank you
A clear description of using the Tormek drill bit sharpener. Some have commented that Tormek accessories are unnecessarily complicated. I do not agree. I have had my Tormek now for some months. Doing things by eye is fine for those that can - at my age and with my eye sight I can't any longer with sufficient accuracy. The drill bit sharpener leaves nothing to chance and eliminates the possibility of sharpening drill bits at incorrect angles. A great tool and a great accessory.
+Peter Pearson Even if you can sharpen by hand, you still can't do split point by hand grinding. Easier to drill with a cordless drill too, since most of the required "feeding" force comes from the chisel edge that doesn't really cut. Extended cutting life because of less heat sounds like a lie.
Absolutely brilliant tutorial! It's so cool they added a drill attachment and used the facet method that's supposed to drill with less pressure according to a Modern Machine Shop article by Joe Mazoff.
Now that is a very informative clip in reference to that subject. By far the best I have seen so far. Thanks alot for the effort! Best regards from Germany.
Excellent demo video thank you. Very clear and precise. Such a shame some previous commenters have felt it necessary to post negative remarks. You just can't please everyone I guess.
Finally got the DBS-22 for my T7. It works even better than expected as I find I am able (with care) to sharpen much smaller (5/64") drills than the 3mm minimum that Tormek specify. Before and after hole borings are very revealing in that hole concentricy and entry/exit cleanliness are all hugely improved. I'm very much impressed and delighted with my purchase. Thanks again for the great demo video.
I can’t believe it’s been 9 years since my last comment. My T7 and DBS-22 are still going strong (no issues at all in this time) and I can highly recommend them both.
Thanks for a very nice video! I have a T7 and all jigs except from this, need to go get one of those :) .. The one thing I do love more than anything else with the tormek is that it gets perfect everytime you use it, my turning tools are perfectly sharp and perfectly shaped every time with no effort! :) (not affiliated)
Hi Jeff, I think I would have to try this first, but am pretty sure that you could achieve the same effect by just adjusting the rake angle.Cheers,Alan
I bought one of these and it Is well made, It Is very accurate, It is Expensive but Boy is it a long and laborious job to sharpen a few drills as the stone ,even coarsened is too fine and takes an age to sharpen a worn/ damaged drill. Now I only use it to sharpen special job drill when I want a really good cut
Is not terrible man . I'm a tool & die maker so i grind drills daily, but I usually ream the holes i drill so i don't put too much thought into a twist drill . as long as it cuts on both sides and goes straight i don't really care if it looks pretty .
they must have some of the most creative and brilliant people working for this company they keep coming up with amazing attachments. must be German. not that i can even afford any of the even basic packages.
That's a beautiful drill bit! I wish I could get my hand-sharpened bits to look ANYTHING like this. But I cannot. I don't have the $1,000 for the machine being demonstrated here, either. If I did, I'd buy one; just for the fun of doing such precise work if for no other reason. But reality sets in. I haven't used $1,000 worth of drill bits in my entire life. The ones that get used (and dulled) the most often are also the hard ones to sharpen: the 1/8" - 1/4"; and they're cheap. Would love to own that machine and really appreciate the demo.
You wouldn't buy a complete Tormek setup just for drill bits. You would buy the DBS-22 if you already have a Tormek for your other sharpening needs and you also want to be able to sharpen drill bits.
£180 in the UK, just for the attachment. Buys just shy of 1800 drill bits on Amazon.If it takes 3 minutes to sharpen one, that works out at £2 per hour for your time on top. I know some people like 'playing workshops' rather than making things- guess they are the target market.
1800 drill bits for 180 pounds in the UK, Huh? Well they must really be some very shitty chinese drills. And if you use shitty chinese drills to do any real machining you'll soon learn to regret it. You will NOT EVEN GET ANYTHING CLOSE TO 1800 American, UK, Euro made drills for 180 pounds ! Lol! An American 115 piece set covering wire gauge, letter sizes and fractional (only up to 1/2" in fraction) will run you close to $500 US/ Know how I know that? I own $3000 of American drills from 0.056" to 0.987", two or three drills of each size. Sounds to me like YOU are the one who likes 'playing workshops' and I doubt you make anything. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Here's a pro tip for you: NEVER, EVER, USE chinese TAPS, DIES, DRILLS, REAMERS, or ENDMILLS. REMEMBER THAT, if you able to.
I bought the foley belsaw sharpening jig for the 1055 which i don't have. I use a standard bench grinder. although i didn't pay much for it. The tormek system may take a little longer to set up but it is much better than what I bought.
Thanks for a great video. I have a seperate set of drills for brass. The brass drills have an additional grind in the flute to remove the hook on the cuttung edge so the drill does not rapidly bury itself into the brass and snap. Instead it is almost a neutral rake on the edge so it shears the material and produces little splinters of brass, but does produce a very smooth hole. Can that grind be done on this jig? Even if it can't I think I am going to buy one. Best regards. Jeff
You have the correct tool, you have the correct car parts, so I'm not going to keep on cracking my skull open trying to fit and fringle or even loose finger knuckles! than leave it be for now, I can do other things for the time beeing
Both grinder & sharpening jig look excellent products, but at what price? You really should have indicated price. I noticed the setup appeared rather high unless you perhaps are short. Overall a great & very clear video of a device which does what most sharpening routines cannot, except ay be the most skilled of metal-workings pros.
Good demo of how to use the attachment. However, it should be noted that this implementation of a 4-facet grind does not produce a split-point drill. The centre part of the drill bit still has a negative relief angle, i.e. it scrapes instead of cutting, just like the standard 2-facet grind. As stated in the demo, however, the bit will not easily wander when starting a hole, unlike a bit with a 2-facet grind.
Hello Alan, thank you for the video. I am currently working on a diy grinding jig for the Tormek and would like to know the distance between the P and the S stop. Can you measure this for me? Thanks in advance and greetings from Germany.
Looking closely when the holes are drilled through the flat bar, there is a slight raised ring around the bottom of the hole which indicates that the drill hasn't been sharpened evenly and is drilling oversize.
It's a very accurate and nice machine and a jig. However, I figure the cost of maintaining that sharpening machine will definitely exceed cost of drill bits. It could be used for some high quality and expensive drill bits though...
It’s a lovely tool. I’ve had mine close on 10 years. It’s cost me not a penny over the original purchase price and has saved innumerable drill bits (mostly quality Dormer brand) in that time. The improvements in drilling accuracy and time saved by always using properly sharpened drills has proved more than justification enough for me.
Considering the price I could have bought a lot of drillbits, and with the time it takes to become familiar with the DBS-22, it is not much of a financial gain unless one's time is of little or no value. Also, the rig is not really precise enough to warrant the exuberant price. also beware that there are problems with bits lifting if the feed is excessive. On a scale from 1 to 10 - about 6.
+Steve Keller Have sharpened well over 100 drill bits so far, and am warming a somewhat to the gizmo. Bought a magnifier with a measuring grid, because getting true centering on the bits is not always so easy. I am retired, so I have time to do the sharpening for friends and acquaintances, but it ain't much of a business proposal as I would be lucky to make 5 quid an hour. Am working on a chuck so I can sharpen smaller bits as well on the SJ-250 I just ordered. That's the kind of things you can do when there's no woman in the house ;-)
I remember in college I had to sharpen a drill bit by hand and it was so frustrating. But I'm glad I did it because once you learn it eventually becomes so easy to do and you don't have to buy jigs and by hand it can be done in under a minute sometimes
"Drills aren't a precise metal removal tools,..." - anybody who has that mentality just doesn't know any better. Hole location, finished hole size, etc. all suffer from hand grinding. You wouldn't sharpen the sides of an end-mill by hand, would you? if you don't get how that's the same, you should be pounding nails on a construction site. This is a neat unit for artisans and not designed to replace a Darex or tool and cutter grinder. It all comes down to what's appropriate for your needs...
Exactly... especially the part about "You wouldn't sharpen the sides of an end-mill by hand, would you?" .. and to this I would add: You wouldn't' sharpen a REAMER by hand would you? A moments thought will reveal that we use a drill first, several thou small than the chucking reamer, to achieve desired size..so we want a drill that PERFORMS CORRECTLY !! So that the subsequent reaming operation bring us to the blueprint size we are looking for.
I doubt you can even get one complete set of high quality drill bits up to 22 mm for the price of a DBS-22. Of course if you include the Tormak grinder in the price. but with this machine you can sharpen almost every tool like knives, scissors, axes, chisels, lathe bites.... And you can actually fit the DBS-22 to almost every bench grinder by using an adapter or by making the adapter by yourself.
Ummm.. you must not do a lot of machining. First off the "high quality" life time supply sizes: number 1- 60, letter A - Z, and those up to 22mm (lifetime supply, oh really?) would cost you a fortune (do know how I know that? I own $3000 of American made drills ranging from 0.056" to 0.987", two or three of each size!!) Secondly you failed to state what you would do if most of you "LIFEtime supply" of drills got dull. You're a dumbass. Better stick to simpleminded woodworking projects.
That is a very clear description of how to sharpen drill bits, I have recently got myself a new set of bits, and you notice the difference with the 4 facit edges, thanks for making the video, I feel more confident when making this purchase
Hello,
german here, i found this vid better than original Tormeks,
i bought this wonderful tool for my water grinder ( not Tormek, to expensive, but also good one weldinger 250) allthoughI‘m capable of sharpening bits,but, this is pure perfection 🥰❤️
Thanks for explaining Sir!
Hi Alan,
I have just got this drill sharpening system and I have to say I find it superb. Your video made it very easy for me to set it up. All my old drill bits which were due to go to recycling have now been given a new life. Thanks for a great video.
Alan, not sure what you do for a living but this is one of the best demonstration videos I've seen. Thank you so much, pretty much made up my mind on which manufacture I want to purchase. Cheers!
Alan, I enjoyed this video. Thank you. I realise it was some time ago, you are still the professional I knew and respected from the days of visiting your shop. Good old days.
Great attachment.I have been sharpening all my drill bits by hand since I started my apprenticeship in1965.I will definitely buy one of these.I will continue passing on my hand drill bit sharpening skills to others .Regards Johnny.
I have watched a few of these videos on Tormek drill sharpening jig and yours by far made the understanding of it clear and simple , well done my friend , thank you
the most good tool for sharpening that i have seen because makes not only the sharpening age but all the work that the drill needs!!!
A clear description of using the Tormek drill bit sharpener. Some have commented that Tormek accessories are unnecessarily complicated. I do not agree. I have had my Tormek now for some months. Doing things by eye is fine for those that can - at my age and with my eye sight I can't any longer with sufficient accuracy. The drill bit sharpener leaves nothing to chance and eliminates the possibility of sharpening drill bits at incorrect angles. A great tool and a great accessory.
+Peter Pearson Even if you can sharpen by hand, you still can't do split point by hand grinding. Easier to drill with a cordless drill too, since most of the required "feeding" force comes from the chisel edge that doesn't really cut. Extended cutting life because of less heat sounds like a lie.
Absolutely brilliant tutorial! It's so cool they added a drill attachment and used the facet method that's supposed to drill with less pressure according to a Modern Machine Shop article by Joe Mazoff.
The best tutorial video I've seen. Brilliant work!
Good video. Easy instructions to follow. Thank you.
Beautifully clear communication skills.
Now that is a very informative clip in reference to that subject.
By far the best I have seen so far.
Thanks alot for the effort!
Best regards from Germany.
very good instruction...thanks from Tennessee
The beauty of this jig is that you can so easily adapt the cutting geometry to suit any material not just wood.
Excellent demo video thank you. Very clear and precise. Such a shame some previous commenters have felt it necessary to post negative remarks. You just can't please everyone I guess.
Finally got the DBS-22 for my T7. It works even better than expected as I find I am able (with care) to sharpen much smaller (5/64") drills than the 3mm minimum that Tormek specify. Before and after hole borings are very revealing in that hole concentricy and entry/exit cleanliness are all hugely improved. I'm very much impressed and delighted with my purchase. Thanks again for the great demo video.
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I can’t believe it’s been 9 years since my last comment. My T7 and DBS-22 are still going strong (no issues at all in this time) and I can highly recommend them both.
Great Vid, Immaculate workshop Alan.
सर आप धन्यवाद आप के ये अटेचमेंट से कोई भी डिरल की धार को लगा सकता है सर बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद सर। किशोर कुमार
Great product great demonstration
Excellent Video Alan, Thank you
Thanks for a very nice video! I have a T7 and all jigs except from this, need to go get one of those :) .. The one thing I do love more than anything else with the tormek is that it gets perfect everytime you use it, my turning tools are perfectly sharp and perfectly shaped every time with no effort! :) (not affiliated)
Brilliant video. Very well explained and edited🤝
Hi Jeff, I think I would have to try this first, but am pretty sure that you could achieve the same effect by just adjusting the rake angle.Cheers,Alan
Excellent video! Thank you sir!
Excellent maîtrise de haut précision '
Bravo
Good job and nice review.cool machine also.
I just got my DBS-22 and Tomek T8 today. I like your videos and they are a great compliment to the instruction manual.
Excelente!!! Muchas gracias.
Very informative, thank you.
Thank you !
@petcatznz Thanks for your comment. As you say you cannot please everyone, I just do as I do, they don't have to watch. :-)
Najlepše je tvoje predavanje in natančno lp
good ok . end lubrication? is ciro
Super ! It's perfect!
Maybe you mentioned it in the video, but what model grinder are you using in this video?
good Sharpening Attachment
I bought one of these and it Is well made, It Is very accurate, It is Expensive but Boy is it a long and laborious job to sharpen a few drills as the stone ,even coarsened is too fine and takes an age to sharpen a worn/ damaged drill. Now I only use it to sharpen special job drill when I want a really good cut
You do use the Silicon Carbide (SB) stone (black one) I hope?
If not: Thats your issue. Toolsteels are too hard to do on the SG stone.
Great video. You remind me of Mr. Rogers.
I might just buy new set of drill bits, thought a great video to have tools in your garage
Is not terrible man . I'm a
tool & die maker so i grind drills daily, but I usually ream the holes i drill so i don't put too much thought into a twist drill . as long as it cuts on both sides and goes straight i don't really care if it looks pretty .
do you have experience sharpening titanium drill bits? does this work well for that?
they must have some of the most creative and brilliant people working for this company they keep coming up with amazing attachments. must be German. not that i can even afford any of the even basic packages.
+WV591 Swedish.
That's a beautiful drill bit! I wish I could get my hand-sharpened bits to look ANYTHING like this. But I cannot. I don't have the $1,000 for the machine being demonstrated here, either. If I did, I'd buy one; just for the fun of doing such precise work if for no other reason. But reality sets in. I haven't used $1,000 worth of drill bits in my entire life. The ones that get used (and dulled) the most often are also the hard ones to sharpen: the 1/8" - 1/4"; and they're cheap.
Would love to own that machine and really appreciate the demo.
And if you spend a little more money for a solid carbide drill bit in those measurements, it'll last you even longer.
You wouldn't buy a complete Tormek setup just for drill bits. You would buy the DBS-22 if you already have a Tormek for your other sharpening needs and you also want to be able to sharpen drill bits.
como faço para adquiri o afiador, fiquei muito interessado, pois sou serralheiro.
12:31 when the sound turns to 'nails on chalkboard' - you know you've got a sharp bit!
Did you invert the guide at 11:40? It was off camera a few seconds.
£180 in the UK, just for the attachment. Buys just shy of 1800 drill bits on Amazon.If it takes 3 minutes to sharpen one, that works out at £2 per hour for your time on top. I know some people like 'playing workshops' rather than making things- guess they are the target market.
1800 drill bits for 180 pounds in the UK, Huh? Well they must really be some very shitty chinese drills. And if you use shitty chinese drills to do any real machining you'll soon learn to regret it. You will NOT EVEN GET ANYTHING CLOSE TO 1800 American, UK, Euro made drills for 180 pounds ! Lol! An American 115 piece set covering wire gauge, letter sizes and fractional (only up to 1/2" in fraction) will run you close to $500 US/ Know how I know that? I own $3000 of American drills from 0.056" to 0.987", two or three drills of each size. Sounds to me like YOU are the one who likes 'playing workshops' and I doubt you make anything. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Here's a pro tip for you:
NEVER, EVER, USE chinese TAPS, DIES, DRILLS, REAMERS, or ENDMILLS. REMEMBER THAT, if you able to.
I bought the foley belsaw sharpening jig for the 1055 which i don't have. I use a standard bench grinder. although i didn't pay much for it. The tormek system may take a little longer to set up but it is much better than what I bought.
Thanks for a great video. I have a seperate set of drills for brass. The brass drills have an additional grind in the flute to remove the hook on the cuttung edge so the drill does not rapidly bury itself into the brass and snap. Instead it is almost a neutral rake on the edge so it shears the material and produces little splinters of brass, but does produce a very smooth hole. Can that grind be done on this jig? Even if it can't I think I am going to buy one. Best regards. Jeff
you probably can use grind a straightforward 135 or 140° point angle without all extra neutral rake and all that.
nice video! That's a fantastic jig! But its a little bit too expensive for me...
Please I want a video explaining the method of shaver blades please reply
You have the correct tool, you have the correct car parts, so I'm not going to keep on cracking my skull open trying to fit and fringle or even loose finger knuckles! than leave it be for now, I can do other things for the time beeing
Both grinder & sharpening jig look excellent products, but at what price?
You really should have indicated price.
I noticed the setup appeared rather high unless you perhaps are short.
Overall a great & very clear video of a device which does what most sharpening routines cannot, except ay be the most skilled of metal-workings pros.
Good demo of how to use the attachment. However, it should be noted that this implementation of a 4-facet grind does not produce a split-point drill. The centre part of the drill bit still has a negative relief angle, i.e. it scrapes instead of cutting, just like the standard 2-facet grind. As stated in the demo, however, the bit will not easily wander when starting a hole, unlike a bit with a 2-facet grind.
is there a way to sharpen up the spiral blade edge?
Will the sharpening geometry work as well for drilling metal or are they intended to work best on wood?
Metal especially, but works extremely well on wood.
good
thank you
What about router bits sharpening jig?
good 👍👍👍
Hello Alan, thank you for the video.
I am currently working on a diy grinding jig for the Tormek and would like to know the distance between the P and the S stop. Can you measure this for me? Thanks in advance and greetings from Germany.
It is 14.6mm, but the black one(S) also screws open to a wider distance
Najboljši brusilec svedrov
olá como adiquerir esta ferramenta quanto custa
Looking closely when the holes are drilled through the flat bar, there is a slight raised ring around the bottom of the hole which indicates that the drill hasn't been sharpened evenly and is drilling oversize.
How are you planning to sharpen it any better?
It's a very accurate and nice machine and a jig. However, I figure the cost of maintaining that sharpening machine will definitely exceed cost of drill bits. It could be used for some high quality and expensive drill bits though...
It’s a lovely tool. I’ve had mine close on 10 years. It’s cost me not a penny over the original purchase price and has saved innumerable drill bits (mostly quality Dormer brand) in that time. The improvements in drilling accuracy and time saved by always using properly sharpened drills has proved more than justification enough for me.
And how is this supposed to my time at the grinding wheel
KOLIKO je cena tega pripomoćek in kje se da dobit
The Jig is nice idea, but for that price why it is made from aluminum???
easier to cast
Won't rust.
cheaper than gold
Wow!
請問它能磨的鑽咀最細的是多大？
Considering the price I could have bought a lot of drillbits, and with the time it takes to become familiar with the DBS-22, it is not much of a financial gain unless one's time is of little or no value.
Also, the rig is not really precise enough to warrant the exuberant price.
also beware that there are problems with bits lifting if the feed is excessive. On a scale from 1 to 10 - about 6.
+Steve Keller Have sharpened well over 100 drill bits so far, and am warming a somewhat to the gizmo. Bought a magnifier with a measuring grid, because getting true centering on the bits is not always so easy. I am retired, so I have time to do the sharpening for friends and acquaintances, but it ain't much of a business proposal as I would be lucky to make 5 quid an hour. Am working on a chuck so I can sharpen smaller bits as well on the
SJ-250 I just ordered. That's the kind of things you can do when there's no woman in the house ;-)
$430 in Australia...!!!
Hola ¿Dónde puedo comprar ese equipo para Chile? Gracias.
Osvaldo Ayala
Umím ho nabrousit v ruce, lepší a rychleji.Jinak krásná hračka,v provozu pomalá.
Good
Supeeer!!
Waoh.excellent .am afraid to ask the price tho
@trackerscott nothing's different from the titanium bits, its just a very thin coating
All things Oliver: Sadly, this is so very true!
Вопрос. Зачем такая точилка, для китайских сверл?
I remember in college I had to sharpen a drill bit by hand and it was so frustrating. But I'm glad I did it because once you learn it eventually becomes so easy to do and you don't have to buy jigs and by hand it can be done in under a minute sometimes
How much the complete set of Tormek T7 and how to get order?
Hello I'm form Lebanon I can sharp trimmer hair blade with tormented machine.thanks
Зачетное приспособление только непонятно почему так круг медленно крутится. У нас на заводе точило такого диаметра раз в 6 быстрей вращается.
Como lo compro soy del Ecuador tienen alguna sucursal por acá cuanto cuesta
Se dobi v sloveniji in koliko je cena lp
Para comprar?
Minuto 10:30 quedo bien.😊
Yea I'm feeling sleepy, man.
Very Nice tool although i prefer plane facets not curved.
I have an old sharpener, but nothing to do with this, not practical, the end result is never good. I like the precision of this tool to sharpen!
..¿no resulta mas fácil aprender a afilar las mechas de la forma tradicional , sin necesidad de invertir en tremenda tecnología?
"Drills aren't a precise metal removal tools,..." - anybody who has that mentality just doesn't know any better. Hole location, finished hole size, etc. all suffer from hand grinding. You wouldn't sharpen the sides of an end-mill by hand, would you? if you don't get how that's the same, you should be pounding nails on a construction site. This is a neat unit for artisans and not designed to replace a Darex or tool and cutter grinder. It all comes down to what's appropriate for your needs...
Exactly... especially the part about "You wouldn't sharpen the sides of an end-mill by hand, would you?" .. and to this I would add: You wouldn't' sharpen a REAMER by hand would you? A moments thought will reveal that we use a drill first, several thou small than the chucking reamer, to achieve desired size..so we want a drill that PERFORMS CORRECTLY !! So that the subsequent reaming operation bring us to the blueprint size we are looking for.
Which would I rather spend money on? A lifetime supply of high quality drill bits, or a drill bit sharpener (both cost the same)? Let me see...
I doubt you can even get one complete set of high quality drill bits up to 22 mm for the price of a DBS-22. Of course if you include the Tormak grinder in the price. but with this machine you can sharpen almost every tool like knives, scissors, axes, chisels, lathe bites....
And you can actually fit the DBS-22 to almost every bench grinder by using an adapter or by making the adapter by yourself.
Ummm.. you must not do a lot of machining. First off the "high quality" life time supply sizes: number 1- 60, letter A - Z, and those up to 22mm (lifetime supply, oh really?) would cost you a fortune (do know how I know that? I own $3000 of American made drills ranging from 0.056" to 0.987", two or three of each size!!)
Secondly you failed to state what you would do if most of you "LIFEtime supply" of drills got dull. You're a dumbass. Better stick to simpleminded woodworking projects.
Why is the stone running in reverse.
❤
Alan kje se lahko kupi lp is SLOVENIJE
Hello. Bob Fleming here ..
cough cough!
I do it all by hand/eye coordination.25 years experience in auto setting makes it easier.
+Daza Maz Then why are you watching this video?
show,