Kent, when you say the bowl will "get chucked" I'm assuming that's woodturner's code for "it's going to end up on the work bench with a collection of other boo-boo bowls, full of screws, sand papers, rags, small tools, or any other variety of bits and bobs that accumulate in a workshop?" I actually use my boo-boo bowls to hold collections of shavings from different species that have beautiful colors. So if I have some nice, pink heart wood from a plumb tree I will use those shavings to fill cracks in a piece of black walnut, or walnut shavings to fill cracks in a piece of maple. Always a use for those boo-boo bowls! :-)
Thank you for writing and sharing, Scott! Well, this one was indeed "chucked." It would drive me nuts sitting there with that flimsy bottom. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thank you for showing your mistakes! Really helps us to learn. Sad that we didn't get to see the finished product as this was a beautiful bowl!! Love your videos Kent!
Hey Kent I turn most of my bowls that shape I love turning that shape. So I made a sander to finish that mistake when it happens. With a simple face plate and 3/4 plywood and glued sand paper and you just simply sand it off. Never waste a project just solve the issue! ✌🏼
Thank you for sharing this video!!! Showing some of the “pitfalls” of turning. It also teaches us what to look for while turning!Love your channel! I learn something every time I watch! Simply one of the best woodturning channels out there!
#2 Robertson driver. It has happened to all of us. So happy to hear you say it. It has been a while, but the last time it happened was #4 for a one week period. That was a real learning week. Cheers
I love your approach to turning bowls and appreciate your humility in showing your mistakes. It makes it easier to learn by seeing. Thanks again for another wonderful video 🙂
Anyone who says they've never made a funnel is lying. We've all been there, and we can still make occasional visits. ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
The square ended screwdrivers are call Robertson drivers and the screws are called Robertson head screws. Great video and it is nice to see that pro Turner's still make mistakes too Blessings Kent
Been there, done that. I really appreciate you showing the mistakes along with the successes. I still learned from your techniques and methods, so thanks.
So! You are a mere mortal after all! Showing your mistakes is humbling for you and a confidence builder for many of your fans. Chuck it? Never! Fix up the bottom and use it for a gorgeous planter!
Just turned my first bowl! And I did exactly the same. Good lesson learned! 😄 no problem. I highly appreciate your video’s. Great motivational lessons. Thank you!
Good teaching lesson Kent! I have gone through the bottom of a couple of bowls lately. One was on my vacuum chuck while I was sanding, and that was an interesting experience, the dark ring appeared and I was trying to sand it off. But the dark ring was the vacuum chuck showing its way through the light Sycamore wood. I am so glad I have a "visual" air filter bowl on my vacuum line, it was full of fine sawdust. Anyway, enjoyed your "Humble Pie". Lowell
Thanks for also sharing your "blunders." I would consider flattening the bottom, glue a piece of contrasting wood to the bowl and then turn a sort of "short" pedestal. Kind regards.
Well, we have all made a funnel, now and then. I make a habit of measuring the depth of the center of the bowl as I am turning so I know how much wood I have to play with when I reduce the foot and shoulder. Your bowl had a beautiful shape. I am reluctant to do a closed mouth bowl because of the amount of "swing" needed to get the inside wall back to the center of the bowl. After watching your technique, I may have to try a closed mouth bowl.
Yup! My last bowl did just that. I was turning a nice chunk of walnut, about 8” dia and 4” thick. Was all finished and cleaning up the inside. It had a mortis not the tenon. Anyway the final pass burst thru the bottom and I had been calipering the whole time. I tried to fix it with a chunk of walnut but didn’t look right so put it in the cabinet with other “problems”. Thanks for the learning turning. Happy Turning….
Absolutely correct about using the impact driver! A couple years ago I banished all square drive and phillips head screws from my shop because I needed to end the frustration of them camming out and ruining nice work. By accident I discovered that the impact driver never cams out, even on Phillips heads! Torx heads are best but the impact driver makes the lesser screws workable. Thank you for the video! :)
@@TurnAWoodBowlAlso worth mentioning is the impact driver also works every time for disassembly - when you don't have a choice of screw heads because its already in there! :)
That's about the max size I can turn on my midi lathe and the good thing about it is that sanding the inside of the closed rim bowl of that size is not a huge pain since I can fit the drill into it, unlike the smaller ones. Also I call hickory "brickory" since it's about the hardest wood I can find out in New England without looking too hard. It's always sad when we blow through the bottom, but that's why we have so many roughed out bowls! Good to see that it happens to even experienced turners!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Well, I had a different one the other day. I was turning a bowl with a lid, and I stopped the lathe to see how the lid was turning out, and put my hand on the other side of the tailstock to get some friction as I usually do, and the large jawed HTC chuck used it's momentum to unscrew itself and fell on the ways cracking the lid.
I really like this type of shape too. Agree with some other commenters that seeing a fix would be handy too. And thanks for the wood glue reminder. And finally, yup Robertson screws for the win. They work so much better, just beware of some of the more recent cheap and nasty imported ones that are poorly made. They can get frustrating quickly too.
Please show how you fix such bowls. As a new guy to turning I know it is a matter of time. So far I have been doing thick live edge and the rough turn of twice turning other than some spindle turning from one inch stock.
John, well, the real solution is to slow down and measure more often. I was rushing the process to get it done and didn't measure enough. My solution is to grab another blank and turn another one. I'll see what I can do. Happy Turning!
From one occasional funnel maker to another, respect for sharing your mistakes. Curious what finish you would have used for a same-day gifting, though.
If something like this happens to me, I save the bowl by fitting a nice piece of another type of wood (mahogany or something that harmonises well). This then forms the base of the bowl and a new foot at the same time. A clamping disc comes in handy for this. Not only have I saved many bowls this way, but I've also managed to create attractive designs!
That’s a bummer! It was a really nice bowl. This is why finishing the bottom is my scariest part of the process. I dread wasting all that work on the very last part. But I’ve done it a few times and it’s always frustrating!
I always repair. I have done this a few times, can make a very interesting bottom. I usually texture it. All the ones I have done have been picked before a similar bowl with out a blemish.
I have wondered if one of those laser distance measuring devices locked down could be used to measure how close to the chuck jaws one is getting having measured to the jaws first.
I would have finished it and used in the shop for something or I would have cut it in half to have two equal haves and then mounted it to a wall and it could be a rag bowl or sandpaper bit and pieces bowl. They look great hanging on a wall almostlike a sconce.
I don't quite understand. It seems obvious to me (an admitted newbie) that if you had used a jam that was not hollow inside then the middle of your bowl would have been supported and had no issues. Still seems fixable by just adding a solid piece jam (shaped to fit the contour of the bottom of your bowl and all would be well again. Yes the bottom would be thin but it would still be a beautiful and finished bowl. What am I missing because this feels obvious (sincere question). I never use donut shape bowl jams for this reason, i know the tail stock would be pressing all force over a hollow spot and just tightening up the tailstock could tear through. Happy turning good sir. Appreciate seeing you humble enough to show even when things don't go according to 'plan' :)
Thank you for writing and sharing, Perry. The issue wasn't the inside support. It was the fact I didn't stop and measure enough. I rushed the process. The techniques were fine, operator error was the factor. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
The head of the screws you are using is known as a 'Robertson' in Ontario, Canada. It was 'invented' & trademark yrs earlier but was never acted on. Robertson developed an easy means of producing them. I'm a former shop teacher and for yrs told my classes the story of this Canadian invention that has grown around the world. FYI...Electrhome (sp?) Canada once sent finished units to the States along with Robertson screws. They received a rather nasty phone call asking what the hell they sent and how were they supposed to use them. The Canadian branch ended up sending them a number of screwdrivers.
Ánimo! Son cosas que pasan! El trabajo, de todos modos, fue excelente. Nos ha pasado a todos que justo en el momento en que estamos por terminar algo hermoso, como decimos por acá, "metemos la pata". Apretar los labios y volver a comenzar!!! De seguro el regalo va a quedar hermoso y lo van a disfrutar. Excelente la recomendación en cuanto al tamaño del cuenco. No lo había pensado nunca y es muy cierto! Gracias por compartirlo! Un abrazo! Germán, Lomas de Solymar, Uruguay
I just did a similar thing except mine was I put a hole in the side that I had to repair , I used epoxy, then on my second try the epoxy gave out and the hole in the side of the bowl got bigger. I'll just toss it and start a new bowl... thanks for your video, we both learned something.
Привет Кент! Очень жалко , что ты испортил такую красивую чашу. Я вращая внутренний верх таких чаш на реверсе. Я тоже пару прорезал дно чаш, но сделал простейший измерительный инструмент избавился от этой "детской" проблемы. Hello Kent! It's a pity that you ruined such a beautiful bowl. I am rotating the inner top of such bowls on the reverse. I also cut through the bottom of the bowls a couple of times, but I made the simplest measuring tool and got rid of this "childish" problem.
It needs to go to the place for misfit toys and bowls. If you've never made a funnel, you've probably not turned very many bowls. It could have been a beautiful bowl. The grain was awesome.
After using both drill and impact driver , i think the impact driver breaks a lot of screws . Its not a problem with shorter screws like these or in relatively soft wood . I use lots of 3-4 inch deck screws and only use a drill because of this Had trouble with just 1.5 inch screws when mounting a piece of ipe on a face plate , have to pre drill or dip the screws in dish soap I would rather have to take a stripped screw out with a pair of vise grips than deal with a broken one
P S the original designer of Robertson drivers made them color coded , so you could look down at your tool belt and tell what size the driver was by the handle. Makers of bits will color code the whole bit . number two is the one I use most and it is red
Hm? Interesting. I wonder if the screws are the problem. I've never broke a screw yet. The box of stainless wood screw I use weren't cheap, but I've also been using them for years now. Happy Turning!
How to fix it would be a good video. But I think I would just sand it down and use it around the house or shop. Which is what I’m doing with four or five already. Most of them cracked really bad.
Actually you shouldn't chuck it away a video on how to rescue by inserting piece or some other method would be educational, be useful for novice turners, just my thoughts.
that's a good mistake to be able to show us how to repair the mistake... not just start over...some of us may not have a second blank to start over with..
@sqidskunk, Yes. I was looking for how Kent dealt with the problem too. I was able to fix a too thin bottom by adding inlay material and CA glue in layers until the base was firm, then I sanded it flat. Came out great and you can’t tell from the inside of the bowl. A person might want to make something else to give for the gift, but no reason to toss the whole thing.
The square drive screw was invented by Peter L. Robertson in 1907. It is the primary screw head here in Canada. The screwdrivers are colour coded, so a #2 Robertson (for #8 - #10 screws) has a red handle, #3 black, #1 green, etc.
Kent, when you say the bowl will "get chucked" I'm assuming that's woodturner's code for "it's going to end up on the work bench with a collection of other boo-boo bowls, full of screws, sand papers, rags, small tools, or any other variety of bits and bobs that accumulate in a workshop?" I actually use my boo-boo bowls to hold collections of shavings from different species that have beautiful colors. So if I have some nice, pink heart wood from a plumb tree I will use those shavings to fill cracks in a piece of black walnut, or walnut shavings to fill cracks in a piece of maple. Always a use for those boo-boo bowls! :-)
Thank you for writing and sharing, Scott! Well, this one was indeed "chucked." It would drive me nuts sitting there with that flimsy bottom. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thank you for showing your mistakes! Really helps us to learn. Sad that we didn't get to see the finished product as this was a beautiful bowl!! Love your videos Kent!
Thank you, Lisa! Not a problem, I think I'll be turning another bowl for you soon. ;) Happy Turning!
Hey Kent I turn most of my bowls that shape I love turning that shape. So I made a sander to finish that mistake when it happens. With a simple face plate and 3/4 plywood and glued sand paper and you just simply sand it off. Never waste a project just solve the issue! ✌🏼
Thank you for writing and sharing, Doug! Sounds like a great plan. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thanks for making me feel better about all my mistakes.
Yup, we all make them, Mark. Not to worry, just grab another blank and keep turning. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thank you for sharing this video!!! Showing some of the “pitfalls” of turning. It also teaches us what to look for while turning!Love your channel! I learn something every time I watch!
Simply one of the best woodturning channels out there!
Thank you, Paul for your kind words! I'm so happy to help. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
#2 Robertson driver. It has happened to all of us. So happy to hear you say it. It has been a while, but the last time it happened was #4 for a one week period. That was a real learning week. Cheers
What he pr she said.
I love your approach to turning bowls and appreciate your humility in showing your mistakes. It makes it easier to learn by seeing. Thanks again for another wonderful video 🙂
Glad you like them, Dave! We're all human, right? ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
THANK YOU.. Such a beautiful bowl, such sharp tools and so much transparency...... Seeing this is so helpful. I appreciate it.
Glad it was helpful, David! Transparency is the only way. ;) Happy Turning!
Yes, I am a funnel maker too! I generally drill depth holes before I start hollowing to reduce that risk. Thanks for sharing!
Anyone who says they've never made a funnel is lying. We've all been there, and we can still make occasional visits. ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
The square ended screwdrivers are call Robertson drivers and the screws are called Robertson head screws. Great video and it is nice to see that pro Turner's still make mistakes too Blessings Kent
Hi Kent,
you call it a funnel if you turn through the bottom. Here in Germany we call it "Lampenschirm" meaning a lamp shade.
Thank you, Wayne. I like the lampenschirm idea. ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Been there, done that. I really appreciate you showing the mistakes along with the successes. I still learned from your techniques and methods, so thanks.
Glad to hear. Yes, the techniques are all the same, even when you screw up. LOL Happy Turning!
The bit is a Robertson
That is all I use here in Canada !
Waaay better than Philips for general use. It's a shame that we "Yanks" (in general) haven't seen the light.
Like that bumper sticker says "S... happens"! I know the feeling. Thanks for sharing.
Alan, that is correct! ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Don't worry, it is good lesson for beginners and not only. Good luck in Your next teaching lessons !
Thank you, Janis. Yes, it's something that happens to all of us. Happy Turning!
So! You are a mere mortal after all! Showing your mistakes is humbling for you and a confidence builder for many of your fans. Chuck it? Never! Fix up the bottom and use it for a gorgeous planter!
Beautiful project. Do you have a video learning how to proper measure dept and wall thickness? Maybe an idea? Regards, Dennis
Good idea Dennis. ;) Happy Turning!
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I feel like you need an acronym for your 5/8" 55° swept back bowl gouge. XD thats a mouth full. :))
Just turned my first bowl! And I did exactly the same. Good lesson learned! 😄 no problem.
I highly appreciate your video’s. Great motivational lessons. Thank you!
My pleasure, Ramavao! Yes, there are lesson everywhere. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Good teaching lesson Kent! I have gone through the bottom of a couple of bowls lately. One was on my vacuum chuck while I was sanding, and that was an interesting experience, the dark ring appeared and I was trying to sand it off. But the dark ring was the vacuum chuck showing its way through the light Sycamore wood. I am so glad I have a "visual" air filter bowl on my vacuum line, it was full of fine sawdust.
Anyway, enjoyed your "Humble Pie".
Lowell
Humble pie indeed, Lowell. We're all in good company. ;) Happy Turning!
It happened to me on a bowl also...I created a pedestal from another chunk of the same type wood...they loved it
Thanks for sharing your humanity in that we all have bad days and make mistakes!
You got it Richard! No biggie, just shake it off and move on. Happy Turning!
Kent, you are the best!
Thank you kindly, Ruud! I appreciate you! Happy Turning!
Thanks for also sharing your "blunders." I would consider flattening the bottom, glue a piece of contrasting wood to the bowl and then turn a sort of "short" pedestal. Kind regards.
My pleasure, Hennie! And thanks for the advice. Happy Turning!
Well, we have all made a funnel, now and then. I make a habit of measuring the depth of the center of the bowl as I am turning so I know how much wood I have to play with when I reduce the foot and shoulder. Your bowl had a beautiful shape. I am reluctant to do a closed mouth bowl because of the amount of "swing" needed to get the inside wall back to the center of the bowl. After watching your technique, I may have to try a closed mouth bowl.
Sounds great! Yes, give the close rim a go, I think you'll like it. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Really appreciate your excellent instructions. Very helpful.
Thank you kindly, Dennis! Happy Turning!
It happens!! Glad you posted that Kent. It let's us know it happens to the best of us. All the best!
Yup, Scott, nobody's immune to this happening every once in awhile. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Yup! My last bowl did just that. I was turning a nice chunk of walnut, about 8” dia and 4” thick. Was all finished and cleaning up the inside. It had a mortis not the tenon. Anyway the final pass burst thru the bottom and I had been calipering the whole time. I tried to fix it with a chunk of walnut but didn’t look right so put it in the cabinet with other “problems”. Thanks for the learning turning. Happy Turning….
That shape is really nice! In the words of John Denver, "Some days are diamonds - some days are stones."
Absolutely correct about using the impact driver! A couple years ago I banished all square drive and phillips head screws from my shop because I needed to end the frustration of them camming out and ruining nice work. By accident I discovered that the impact driver never cams out, even on Phillips heads! Torx heads are best but the impact driver makes the lesser screws workable. Thank you for the video! :)
Thanks for backing me up on this one, Steve. The impact driver is a great tool. Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowlAlso worth mentioning is the impact driver also works every time for disassembly - when you don't have a choice of screw heads because its already in there! :)
Robertson bits. Ford of Canada used them for years
That's about the max size I can turn on my midi lathe and the good thing about it is that sanding the inside of the closed rim bowl of that size is not a huge pain since I can fit the drill into it, unlike the smaller ones. Also I call hickory "brickory" since it's about the hardest wood I can find out in New England without looking too hard. It's always sad when we blow through the bottom, but that's why we have so many roughed out bowls! Good to see that it happens to even experienced turners!
Thank you for writing and sharing, Tim! Yes, it happens to everyone. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Well, I had a different one the other day. I was turning a bowl with a lid, and I stopped the lathe to see how the lid was turning out, and put my hand on the other side of the tailstock to get some friction as I usually do, and the large jawed HTC chuck used it's momentum to unscrew itself and fell on the ways cracking the lid.
I really like this type of shape too. Agree with some other commenters that seeing a fix would be handy too. And thanks for the wood glue reminder.
And finally, yup Robertson screws for the win. They work so much better, just beware of some of the more recent cheap and nasty imported ones that are poorly made. They can get frustrating quickly too.
Thank you for writing and sharing, Andrew! Funny, how the quality stuff rarely comes imported and cheap. ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
What a great looking light shade.
Please show how you fix such bowls. As a new guy to turning I know it is a matter of time. So far I have been doing thick live edge and the rough turn of twice turning other than some spindle turning from one inch stock.
John, well, the real solution is to slow down and measure more often. I was rushing the process to get it done and didn't measure enough. My solution is to grab another blank and turn another one. I'll see what I can do. Happy Turning!
Love the shape of this bowl, it is such a pity it didn’t work out, however….. makes me feel heaps better that you have disasters too.
Thank you, Donna. You win some and lose some. Shrug. ;) Happy Turning!
Hi Kent. Great video your wood screws are called Robertson
Thanks for sharring it was turning out pretty good and wame thats it things happen some times
Thank you, Claude! Win some and lose some. ;) Happy Turning!
Robertson screws.
From one occasional funnel maker to another, respect for sharing your mistakes. Curious what finish you would have used for a same-day gifting, though.
Cheers, to the occasional funnel. I probably would have used Tried and True original finish. Happy Turning!
If something like this happens to me, I save the bowl by fitting a nice piece of another type of wood (mahogany or something that harmonises well). This then forms the base of the bowl and a new foot at the same time. A clamping disc comes in handy for this.
Not only have I saved many bowls this way, but I've also managed to create attractive designs!
Yep. Turned a maple bowl too thin. Glued a piece of walnut to the bottom and turned a new bottom base. Turned out purty good. Lol
It's NOT just me who does this! Yoo-hoo! Thanks, buddy!
Exactly, Michael. YOU are not alone! ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Love how you explain things enjoy watching
I appreciate that, Steven! Thank you, and Happy Turning!
As a newbie I Love that you shared that! Duh!
That’s a bummer! It was a really nice bowl. This is why finishing the bottom is my scariest part of the process. I dread wasting all that work on the very last part. But I’ve done it a few times and it’s always frustrating!
I use concrete screws with a splined driver bit. Rarely slips and darn near bombproof.
Thank you for writing and sharing, Gary! I bet those hold. Nice. Happy Turning!
the square drive screws are called Roberson drive screws
funnel? or a lamp shade?
…or magic trick bowl. ;) Happy Turning!
Ben there done that.I believe the name of the screws are Robertson, I have three sizes of square drive 1,2,3.
Thank you, David! Robertson for the win! Happy Turning!
AH!!! You too! Funny but sad. Hey thanks for sharing. Excellent lesson for all
I always repair. I have done this a few times, can make a very interesting bottom. I usually texture it. All the ones I have done have been picked before a similar bowl with out a blemish.
I see another video coming… fixing the semi funnel. 😊
Interesting, but probably not. Time to grab another blank. Happy Turning!
I have wondered if one of those laser distance measuring devices locked down could be used to measure how close to the chuck jaws one is getting having measured to the jaws first.
The square bit screw is called a "Roberson" style screw.
I was turning a goblet when suddenly it became a tunnel. I had cut right through the cup. Good lesson to learn early.
I would have finished it and used in the shop for something or I would have cut it in half to have two equal haves and then mounted it to a wall and it could be a rag bowl or sandpaper bit and pieces bowl. They look great hanging on a wall almostlike a sconce.
Thank you for writing and sharing! I do like the sconce idea. ;) Happy Turning!
I don't quite understand. It seems obvious to me (an admitted newbie) that if you had used a jam that was not hollow inside then the middle of your bowl would have been supported and had no issues. Still seems fixable by just adding a solid piece jam (shaped to fit the contour of the bottom of your bowl and all would be well again. Yes the bottom would be thin but it would still be a beautiful and finished bowl. What am I missing because this feels obvious (sincere question). I never use donut shape bowl jams for this reason, i know the tail stock would be pressing all force over a hollow spot and just tightening up the tailstock could tear through.
Happy turning good sir. Appreciate seeing you humble enough to show even when things don't go according to 'plan' :)
Thank you for writing and sharing, Perry. The issue wasn't the inside support. It was the fact I didn't stop and measure enough. I rushed the process. The techniques were fine, operator error was the factor. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl I definitely deffer to your experience. Thanks for explaining. I appreciate you :)
The head of the screws you are using is known as a 'Robertson' in Ontario, Canada. It was 'invented' & trademark yrs earlier but was never acted on. Robertson developed an easy means of producing them.
I'm a former shop teacher and for yrs told my classes the story of this Canadian invention that has grown around the world.
FYI...Electrhome (sp?) Canada once sent finished units to the States along with Robertson screws. They received a rather nasty phone call asking what the hell they sent and how were they supposed to use them. The Canadian branch ended up sending them a number of screwdrivers.
Thank you, Peter. Happy Turning!
Ánimo! Son cosas que pasan! El trabajo, de todos modos, fue excelente. Nos ha pasado a todos que justo en el momento en que estamos por terminar algo hermoso, como decimos por acá, "metemos la pata". Apretar los labios y volver a comenzar!!! De seguro el regalo va a quedar hermoso y lo van a disfrutar. Excelente la recomendación en cuanto al tamaño del cuenco. No lo había pensado nunca y es muy cierto! Gracias por compartirlo! Un abrazo!
Germán, Lomas de Solymar, Uruguay
Peter Lymburner Robertson invented square driver bits, also known as Robertson head bits, in 1908.
Put a different bottom on it I've done it a few times lol
Still very beautiful shape i love it
Man, I hate it when that happens. We're all human after all!
We are indeed, "all human," David. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I just did a similar thing except mine was I put a hole in the side that I had to repair , I used epoxy, then on my second try the epoxy gave out and the hole in the side of the bowl got bigger. I'll just toss it and start a new bowl... thanks for your video, we both learned something.
Sounds like a good fix. Well done. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Привет Кент! Очень жалко , что ты испортил такую красивую чашу. Я вращая внутренний верх таких чаш на реверсе. Я тоже пару прорезал дно чаш, но сделал простейший измерительный инструмент избавился от этой "детской" проблемы. Hello Kent! It's a pity that you ruined such a beautiful bowl. I am rotating the inner top of such bowls on the reverse. I also cut through the bottom of the bowls a couple of times, but I made the simplest measuring tool and got rid of this "childish" problem.
I often need to remember the advice of an old friend, “there’s no mistakes, just cheap tuition.”
It needs to go to the place for misfit toys and bowls. If you've never made a funnel, you've probably not turned very many bowls. It could have been a beautiful bowl. The grain was awesome.
OMG....I had this happen with 4 cherry platters....I kept trying to work on it, but I should have quit for the day.....
Yeah, we all have days like that. How easily we forget the days when all goes well. ;) Happy Turning!
I would've figured out a way to saved that bowl with epoxy or wood or something that was a wonderful bowl
Thank you, Harold. Yes it can be saved. Happy Turning!
Please make a video where you are showing solutions for the problem, if bottom is too thin. 😊
Robertson head bit
They are called 'Robertson' heads on the screws
Thank you, Dave! Happy Turning!
I know how you feel, just one more cut gets me.
Robertson screws but I personally prefer GRK T25 Torx drive
Thank you, Jake! Happy Turning!
@TurnAWoodBowl Thank you Kent!
You've taught me more than you'll ever know and reinspired my turning passion!!!
Bugger, that was unlucky, Kent. You weren't far off and had the wood been dryer you might have got away with it.
Turn it thinner and make a lampshade.
Robertson head screws
It’s a tunnel…. We have 2 rings😊😊😊😂❤
After using both drill and impact driver , i think the impact driver breaks a lot of screws . Its not a problem with shorter screws like these or in relatively soft wood .
I use lots of 3-4 inch deck screws and only use a drill because of this
Had trouble with just 1.5 inch screws when mounting a piece of ipe on a face plate , have to pre drill or dip the screws in dish soap
I would rather have to take a stripped screw out with a pair of vise grips than deal with a broken one
P S
the original designer of Robertson drivers made them color coded , so you could look down at your tool belt and tell what size the driver was by the handle. Makers of bits will color code the whole bit . number two is the one I use most and it is red
Hm? Interesting. I wonder if the screws are the problem. I've never broke a screw yet. The box of stainless wood screw I use weren't cheap, but I've also been using them for years now. Happy Turning!
Make a lamp out of it.
Cheers
Would building a dam and epoxy not save this bowl? Such a shame, as it it a gorgeous bowl
A square driver screwdriver is called a Robertson screwdriver
How to fix it would be a good video. But I think I would just sand it down and use it around the house or shop. Which is what I’m doing with four or five already. Most of them cracked really bad.
Everyone makes a funnel at one time or another!..and anyone watching this..dont get hung up on the 55 degree gouge...
Just sand off the bottom and send it to me! I'll use it just to look at!
Ha, that's funny Rhonda. I'm fine sharing mistakes on video, but I don't like keeping them around if possible. ;) Happy Turning!
Actually you shouldn't chuck it away a video on how to rescue by inserting piece or some other method would be educational, be useful for novice turners, just my thoughts.
that's a good mistake to be able to show us how to repair the mistake... not just start over...some of us may not have a second blank to start over with..
@sqidskunk, Yes. I was looking for how Kent dealt with the problem too. I was able to fix a too thin bottom by adding inlay material and CA glue in layers until the base was firm, then I sanded it flat. Came out great and you can’t tell from the inside of the bowl. A person might want to make something else to give for the gift, but no reason to toss the whole thing.
What a shame. We've all been there. Free funnels.
Yes indeed, Jim. No biggie, grab another blanks and carry on. Happy Turning!
Turn it into salad tongs! Don't throw it away.
Good idea Jim! You've been watching for awhile. Thank you, and Happy Turning!
The square drive screw was invented by Peter L. Robertson in 1907. It is the primary screw head here in Canada. The screwdrivers are colour coded, so a #2 Robertson (for #8 - #10 screws) has a red handle, #3 black, #1 green, etc.
Perfect. I love the detail. I think going forward I'll say I'm using "1907 Peter L. Robertson's." ;) Happy Turning!
Even consummate professionals make mistakes like the rest of us? Sorry this happened. It was a great looking piece of wood. I hate when this happens!
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Seen it to me please.?
It's called a Robertson screw head or bit.
If it hasn’t already been stated, “Robertson or Robinson” screw head.
Thank you, Mark. Happy Turning!
Robertson