Good point. Bobby had a great sound. His treatment of his solo opportunities was always a complement to the song. String of Pearls comes to mind. Like so many of our earlier band greats we lost Bobby early at 61 years to a heart attack.
Steve Allen may not have been good enough to star as the 1st trumpet in this group, but he did okay on the 4th part. He really was a remarkably versatile entertainer.
Great times they were! Steve's show was simply marvelous. And he was actually a very accomplished musician (trumpet not being his maestro) and song writer. He wrote over 1000 songs, some of which are jazz standards. This was a great bit with 3 superb trumpet masters and another cat who was chocked full of talent and knew how to make us feel good!
Never saw this before and was shocked. Steve Allen? Who knew????? Anyone have more clips like this? It was GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve Allen estimated he wrote over 8.500 songs. And he won a Grammy in 1964 for Best Original Jazz Composition. He was very multi talented. Wrote 50 books, too.
STEVE ALLEN, WHAT A GREAT LATE NIGHT SHOW. WATCHED IT WHEN I WAS A LAD. LOL JOHNNY WAS THE MAN BUT STEVE WAS HIS SUPERIOR IN WIT AND CLASS. BOTH HEROES FOR ME.
I feel like I'm looking through a timescope... at a show from the '80's that is looking back to a show from the '50's... Wow. Steve Allen was a genius. Notice how elegant and understated Hackett is after Doc and Shavers' fire-eating solos. (Addendum, three years later:) As many hundreds of times as I've played this tune on gigs... probably nine out of every ten gigs... I genuinely had no idea that Charlie Shavers wrote it, until re-watching this. (And yes, the little smart-ass at the end trying to get some camera-time is Bill Maher.)
***** I always thought it was Ben Webster or Lester Young that said that, but it still represents a point with which I concur. As to this tune: Hey, I don't know everything... ...yet.
You're right, it's a cornet, and it sounds great. Plus his solo is the most musical of the bunch of them. He's not trying to show off, just playing great ideas. The most underrated player ever, I think.
When you play an improv solo that is so iconic that it becomes a vital part of the arrangement that is still played 80 years later you are in rare territory.( String Of Pearls)
Jazzbeu55 Steve Allen IS actually playing the 1st part on the head, believe it or not. A trumpet player can tell easily from watching his valve positions. It's actually the simplest of the parts because the melody stays the same over the chord changes, whereas the inner harmony parts are changing every 2 bars.
Nancie Beaven oh how I wish I could feel nostalgic for music/culture from his era! Sadly I can only watch this for the first time in 2015, yet still love it! Don't get me wrong I'm an old soul, and what I would give to live back then...
Mr. Hackett played a cornet, not a trumpet; that is why his tone was more mellow than that of trumpet players. I really liked his solo in Glenn Miller's "String of Pearls" -- great cornet sound.
Hackett's tone was more mellow than that of the trumpeters because he was playing in a lower range than they, not because a cornet is significantly more mellow than a trumpet. He joked that the higher range of his horns, whether cornets or trumpets (he played both) was completely unused.
Bobby had a great sound. His treatment of his solo opportunities was always a complement to the song. String of Pearls comes to mind. Like so many of our earlier band greats we lost Bobby early at 61 years to a heart attack. When I think of Steve Allen, Danny Kay comes to mind.
@MCroach1 My brother owns a Severinsen model Getzen trumpet produced in the mid-seventies. It was an expensive horn at that time, but nowhere near $5000. More like $500. It blows really easily.
I'm saving this clip, but I will go in and blank out Bill Maher. It's sad to see a man who's made a fortune by spewing hate (since he couldn't make it as a comedian) on stage with Doc. I've met Doc and he was VERY nice and humble in regards to his playing. He knew he was awesome, but it was because he WORKED his butt off to become great, and as far as I know, he's still doing that at age 80!
@trumpetvids I'm not positive that it is the very horn that DOc is playing here. They only made 100 prototypes of the horn he's playing here and most of them never sold. I have #0097. Him and Dave Monette were trying to get I think either Getzen or Benge to pick up the model using Monette's leadpipe and bell design with a Getzen valve cluster. They orginially wanted to sell the horn for $5000 but in 1983 I don't think anyone was paying that much for trumpets! Boy, how times have changed, eh?
the doctor looks like a young little Sparrow Buzzard here with that crew cut but there is no question he mellowed like fine wine as he got older got more handsome and even a better player I think
First time I saw this video. Funny to see Steve Allen playing the lead part of the melody. Actually easier for him to master while playing by memory. I played this quartet arrangement as a youngster. Leed's trumpet 'Get Together' with a small vinyl record to play along with. Bobby held his own, eh?
Bobby Hackett played with Horace Heidt & his Musical Knights. My good friend Gus Bivona played in Steve's band and can be seen at the end of this clip.
I'm sure you already knew that Hackett was also the soloist on Glenn Miller's version of "A String Of Pearls." I've heard that Hackett improvised that riff, but Miller liked it so much, he actually wrote it into the arrangement.
Lowell: THIS kid instantly noticed Skitch. Didn't know he was 'bi' (Bi-Coastal, that is)... thought he was just based out of New Yawk City with his group...
Thanks for posting this classic old 50's video, with the special treat update from what looks like from the 80's or late 70's. Is that Bill Marr in the update video?
I’m of the belief that Allen was putting on an act for the bit without taking away from it. he joins in “reluctantly” yet is still good enough to keep pace and sound great with mistakes made being intentional. it only seemed like he was a newcomer to the trumpet, but he had to have practiced with them before the show to get the timing down and ensure that he was making the right mistakes without ruining the sound
Skitch was Jack Parr's music director for a while and before that, I believ it was Jose' Meli's. 2 names out of the past, and it was fun to see all these great talents together! Thanks for the posting!
Is it just a distortion of the old tape, or was Doc using a different embouchure on the earlier recording? I looks as if he's placed his mouthpiece much higher.
daaaamn, to not be a trumpet player and just dick around a couple bars with these trumpet monsters. I been playing for 4 years and would still be nervous in that situation.
The way Doc played his horn can look however he wants. :) It looks like that horn has a raw brass bell section. These days a lot of horns don't have any plating or lacquer on them and the grungy patina they get is a "thing". The first time I met Doc he was playing an old Mt. Vernon Strad with solders all over the place, many spots with the silver plate worn through. It looked kind of rough but it was his pet horn and he sounded amazing on it.
It was clearly for him to show off a bit but interesting that he attempted to expand his musical exploration. And we get to hear some excellent stuff by the real players. :)
i question his lack of ability there, to me this was an attempt at showing his musical abilities yet not overshadowing the trio with him having to make rookie mistakes to make it look like he wasn’t as musically inclined as he really was
Steve Allen was one of the greatest comedy ad-libbers there ever was. And simply a great guy. Really miss him.
When late night was worth staying up for!! Steve Allen was genius. Doc a great trumpet player.
GREAT clip! Thanks. Love Bobby Hackett's tone. Instantly recognizable. Just an awesome performance in every respect.
He's also playing cornet, so his tone stands out among the trumpets. But he'd still sound like Bobby Hackett on trumpet.
I always loved Steve and his show, a man of many talents & hats!
I never did get to play with Doc, but I met himm a few times back stage and he was always humble, kind, and a class act.
What a sound Bobby Hackett's got. And Shaver's high note popping out in the chorus, too. Great bit.
There weren't many trumpeters Miles Davis expressed appreciation of. Bobby Hackett was one of them.
@@rubengreenberg2253 How is it possible any trumpeter could not appreciate Bobby?
@@geraldnichols2722 Gerald: How is it possible anybody in his right mind could not appreciate Bobby?
doc and shavers and hackett what a treat
Doc & Shavers we’re swinging but Bobby’s playing is so musical and mature. It’s like hearing youngsters beside the wise elder.
Good point. Bobby had a great sound. His treatment of his solo opportunities was always a complement to the song. String of Pearls comes to mind. Like so many of our earlier band greats we lost Bobby early at 61 years to a heart attack.
I'm on a Doc trumpet playin binge today.......it's great !!!
Terrific! Great jazz from all concerned...even Steve does a nice job. Thanks for posting!
Great stuff, when TV used to be great. You guys making me feel my age... Thanks
I own the trumpet that Doc is playing in this video. The one at the end where Doc is in a white suit. Nice playing horn!
Gedouttatown!!! Now THAT is cool!!
A New York Bach?
Mark H that’s correct!
Steve Allen may not have been good enough to star as the 1st trumpet in this group, but he did okay on the 4th part. He really was a remarkably versatile entertainer.
he had skills but he was also putting on an act so as to not overshadow the trio as the bit was him joining them as a reluctant fourth
He was covering the lead part in the first chorus. They chose an easy key, not at all high, and no left-handed fingerings.
Thanks, brought a smile to my face.
Great times they were! Steve's show was simply marvelous. And he was actually a very accomplished musician (trumpet not being his maestro) and song writer. He wrote over 1000 songs, some of which are jazz standards.
This was a great bit with 3 superb trumpet masters and another cat who was chocked full of talent and knew how to make us feel good!
Steve wrote "Impossible." A wonderful song and not the "Impossible" that Perry Como made a hit.
wow - look how young Doc is
Never saw this before and was shocked. Steve Allen? Who knew????? Anyone have more clips like this? It was GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I once owned an album of Steve playing piano with an all-star jazz combo including Urbie
Green on trombone.
Steve Allen estimated he wrote over 8.500 songs. And he won a Grammy in 1964 for Best Original Jazz Composition. He was very multi talented. Wrote 50 books, too.
Love it - 3 great players
Very cool... 😎🎺
STEVE ALLEN, WHAT A GREAT LATE NIGHT SHOW. WATCHED IT WHEN I WAS A LAD. LOL JOHNNY WAS THE MAN BUT STEVE WAS HIS SUPERIOR IN WIT AND CLASS. BOTH HEROES FOR ME.
Yeah!!! Steve Allen!
Bobby Hackett . . . one of the greatest of all time!
Gracias por compartirlo.
I feel like I'm looking through a timescope... at a show from the '80's that is looking back to a show from the '50's... Wow.
Steve Allen was a genius.
Notice how elegant and understated Hackett is after Doc and Shavers' fire-eating solos.
(Addendum, three years later:)
As many hundreds of times as I've played this tune on gigs... probably nine out of every ten gigs... I genuinely had no idea that Charlie Shavers wrote it, until re-watching this.
(And yes, the little smart-ass at the end trying to get some camera-time is Bill Maher.)
*****
I always thought it was Ben Webster or Lester Young that said that, but it still represents a point with which I concur.
As to this tune:
Hey, I don't know everything...
...yet.
Bobby Hackett had one of the sweetest and warm cornets I ever heard!
@@jackwar8779 If God played cornet/trumpet, it would sound just like Bobby Hackett!
You're right, it's a cornet, and it sounds great. Plus his solo is the most musical of the bunch of them. He's not trying to show off, just playing great ideas. The most underrated player ever, I think.
When you play an improv solo that is so iconic that it becomes a vital part of the arrangement that is still played 80 years later you are in rare territory.( String Of Pearls)
All were great, even Steve Allen considering his amateur status, but Bobby Hackett is my favorite. Pure music, pure swing.
Steve Allen actually had a hit song on trumpet in the early 1960's called gravey waltz...
When Doc was still in med school ....
Is that Bill Maher standing next to the piano at the end? Great video by the way; it's always nice to see Doc showing off his improvising chops.
Yup.
Jazzbeu55 Steve Allen IS actually playing the 1st part on the head, believe it or not. A trumpet player can tell easily from watching his valve positions. It's actually the simplest of the parts because the melody stays the same over the chord changes, whereas the inner harmony parts are changing every 2 bars.
AHHH Nostalgia!
Nancie Beaven oh how I wish I could feel nostalgic for music/culture from his era! Sadly I can only watch this for the first time in 2015, yet still love it! Don't get me wrong
I'm an old soul, and what I would give to live back then...
And all so talented
:) i,m realy smiling.....
Mr. Hackett played a cornet, not a trumpet; that is why his tone was more mellow than that of trumpet players. I really liked his solo in Glenn Miller's "String of Pearls" -- great cornet sound.
So did Miller himself. So much so that Miller wrote Hackett's improv into the arrangement.
Hackett's tone was more mellow than that of the trumpeters because he was playing in a lower range than they, not because a cornet is significantly more mellow than a trumpet. He joked that the higher range of his horns, whether cornets or trumpets (he played both) was completely unused.
Bobby had a great sound. His treatment of his solo opportunities was always a complement to the song. String of Pearls comes to mind. Like so many of our earlier band greats we lost Bobby early at 61 years to a heart attack. When I think of Steve Allen, Danny Kay comes to mind.
Doc and Steve!
Bravo!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@MCroach1 My brother owns a Severinsen model Getzen trumpet produced in the mid-seventies. It was an expensive horn at that time, but nowhere near $5000. More like $500. It blows really easily.
I'm saving this clip, but I will go in and blank out Bill Maher. It's sad to see a man who's made a fortune by spewing hate (since he couldn't make it as a comedian) on stage with Doc. I've met Doc and he was VERY nice and humble in regards to his playing. He knew he was awesome, but it was because he WORKED his butt off to become great, and as far as I know, he's still doing that at age 80!
Excellent idea 💡 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍
That is a real toe tapper.
Allen's early 'tonight' show has never been equalled.
And won't be!
Agreed. Allen had the best shows, followed by Jack Paar, then Johnny Carson, and it kind of fell off since then.
And he still brings "Johnny Unidis (?)" out every once in a while...
@trumpetvids I'm not positive that it is the very horn that DOc is playing here. They only made 100 prototypes of the horn he's playing here and most of them never sold. I have #0097. Him and Dave Monette were trying to get I think either Getzen or Benge to pick up the model using Monette's leadpipe and bell design with a Getzen valve cluster. They orginially wanted to sell the horn for $5000 but in 1983 I don't think anyone was paying that much for trumpets! Boy, how times have changed, eh?
the doctor looks like a young little Sparrow Buzzard here with that crew cut but there is no question he mellowed like fine wine as he got older got more handsome and even a better player I think
First time I saw this video. Funny to see Steve Allen playing the lead part of the melody. Actually easier for him to master while playing by memory.
I played this quartet arrangement as a youngster. Leed's trumpet 'Get Together' with a small vinyl record to play along with.
Bobby held his own, eh?
Bobby owned the tune, so much music from him!
Bobby Hackett played with Horace Heidt & his Musical Knights. My good friend Gus Bivona played in Steve's band and can be seen at the end of this clip.
I'm sure you already knew that Hackett was also the soloist on Glenn Miller's version of "A String Of Pearls." I've heard that Hackett improvised that riff, but Miller liked it so much, he actually wrote it into the arrangement.
If you'd like to hear Doc in a "trumpet challenge" with Clark Terry on the Tonight Show in 1963, visit here: ua-cam.com/video/7jIoN9xTB0E/v-deo.html
Lowell: THIS kid instantly noticed Skitch. Didn't know he was 'bi' (Bi-Coastal, that is)... thought he was just based out of New Yawk City with his group...
The show was in NYC when this was filmed.
Wow, I had no idea Doc was playing in the 50’s Tonight Show band.
He was on the Tonight Show band under Steve
Is that the Steve Allen who played Benny Goodman?
hah, Steve's really blowin...
Steve has that horrible embouchure with the horn pointed down into the music stand. But he sure had balls to stand up and play with those guys!
it’s part of the act, there’s no way that they didn’t get practice in before the bit and tell him that it wasn’t something that he shouldn’t do
@MCroach1 You mean that same model or the actual horn that Doc is seen blowing?
@tuxguys Hacket was nice and warm.
Thanks for posting this classic old 50's video, with the special treat update from what looks like from the 80's or late 70's. Is that Bill Marr in the update video?
Yes, that's Bill Maher.
ayyyyy!! sweet daddy o
@MCroach1 Is that a New York Bach? Looks like my Dad's old horn.
I’m of the belief that Allen was putting on an act for the bit without taking away from it. he joins in “reluctantly” yet is still good enough to keep pace and sound great with mistakes made being intentional. it only seemed like he was a newcomer to the trumpet, but he had to have practiced with them before the show to get the timing down and ensure that he was making the right mistakes without ruining the sound
He knew trumpet fundamentals but just didn’t have the chops developed. I believe the mistakes are real but part of the fun.
I was tricked at the beginning! hahaha
Is that a Bel Canto? Dick Akright made it...
Elliott Oppenheim
Trilllium Brass Trio
This is actually a clip from Steve's last variety show done at KTLA in Hollywood. Noticed that none of you kids recognized Skitch Henderson, either.
Skitch was Jack Parr's music director for a while and before that, I believ it was Jose' Meli's. 2 names out of the past, and it was fun to see all these great talents together!
Thanks for the posting!
Not so fast, old-timer...I recognized Skitch.
Horst Fischer was also very much underrated.
I am in a time machine, right now............................please leave me alone.
That sounds like an opus tune, no?
not complete without u know who
Just a Bel Canto isn't it?
A very young Bill Maher in the color portion of it also.
Is it just a distortion of the old tape, or was Doc using a different embouchure on the earlier recording? I looks as if he's placed his mouthpiece much higher.
Would’ve been cool if Harry James were to be in there
Undecided
Note:
The "real" trumpet players were all not, uhh, "tall".
daaaamn, to not be a trumpet player and just dick around a couple bars with these trumpet monsters. I been playing for 4 years and would still be nervous in that situation.
Is there anything Steve Allen couldn't do?!
Steve Allen had a good sense of humour if he played with those giants LOL/
Getzen Eterna 900.
Bobby
was that Bill Maher?
indeed
Why????? I had no idea he did anything much before his terrible political show.
So disappointing that Joe "Iron Lip" Pasternak had to call off. I was always a fan.
That's just great. And Bill Maher, too...
Bill Maher looks about 12 years old.
wth? Was Doc standing in a ditch? Steve Allen was tall but he wasn't 7'. Doc is 5'10" but he looks 5 foot even here.
That's the point. It's a joke. That fact that he can play something that roughly resembles music is what makes it funny.
Doc, you're a great trumpeter, BUT polish/clean your TRUMPET.
The way Doc played his horn can look however he wants. :)
It looks like that horn has a raw brass bell section. These days a lot of horns don't have any plating or lacquer on them and the grungy patina they get is a "thing". The first time I met Doc he was playing an old Mt. Vernon Strad with solders all over the place, many spots with the silver plate worn through. It looked kind of rough but it was his pet horn and he sounded amazing on it.
Allen sounded like a 7th grader
It was clearly for him to show off a bit but interesting that he attempted to expand his musical exploration. And we get to hear some excellent stuff by the real players. :)
I must agree. He actually was a darn good piano player and song composer though.
i question his lack of ability there, to me this was an attempt at showing his musical abilities yet not overshadowing the trio with him having to make rookie mistakes to make it look like he wasn’t as musically inclined as he really was
@alongtrainofabuses Spoken like a true card-carrying member of the Party of "No"! Maher is a brilliant comedian - you just HATE his politics.
Yeah, well, Maher does plenty of "hating" himself. And "brilliant?" As entitled to it as you are, that's just what it is...an opinion.
Your comment about Maher is also just that - an opinion. You must be a Rump devotee?
Yup, a young Bill Maher.
steve allen doesnt belong up there,he really isnt that good.
That's what makes it hilarious
That was the point of the bit.
it’s an act, the trio were the showcase but his reason for being there had to be kept up even if he was actually a good player…