Bf 109 G-14 - AI Testing - IL-2: Battle of Bodenplatte

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Some test flights against the Ai in the new Bf 109 G-14. Will do the Spit IX as well in an extra video.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 73

  • @bazej1080
    @bazej1080 6 років тому +25

    Sheriff this rockets are not made for hitting the plane directly :) Even if you would manage to hit someone directly from i.e. 100 meters you would destroy also your own plane... There are time fuses to select like bomb fuses.cheers

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому +4

      Yeah I know. What I said. There are used against huge formations of bombers and the likely hood of a hit is higher.

    • @-few-fernando11
      @-few-fernando11 6 років тому +14

      Sheriff's Sim Shack but the idea Is not to hit, even in huge formations.
      The trick Is to estimate de distance very well and just have the rocket explode near the bombers.
      Prety muchas like "horizontal depth charges"
      :P

  • @CheckSix
    @CheckSix 6 років тому +19

    yes that wing flex after the collision was very nice and detailed

  • @romanscho
    @romanscho 6 років тому +6

    Werfer-Granaten 21 were used to break up bomber formations and had a time fuse. They did not explode on impact. Shrapnels from an exploding granade when amed into the middle of a bomber formation would damage several bombers at a time in the sphere of explosion.

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 6 років тому +2

      And even better, it could be fired from outside the range of the bombers defensive guns. If used properly at the very least they could hopefully force apart the bombers' formations' to make follow up attacks with guns a bit easier

  • @Screamingtilltheend
    @Screamingtilltheend 6 років тому +6

    Was wondering when you'd show up in my feed with this, can't wait to see you take out the d9.

    • @Sebastian-lk9xz
      @Sebastian-lk9xz 6 років тому +1

      Yes, me too, can't wait to fly the A-8 and of course the "Langnase".

  • @iflycentral
    @iflycentral 6 років тому +12

    In the testing I did; I found the roll rate of the G-14 to be very slow compared to the Mk.IXe. Also the 109 rockets produce good splash damage on soft targets like trucks. They do not need to hit for a kill.

    • @xXE4GLEyEXx
      @xXE4GLEyEXx 6 років тому +2

      Do you happen to know how to jettison the rocket pods once depleted? from their description it should be an option

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому +1

      Left alt and d I think

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 6 років тому +1

      And during the desperate fighting in Normandy beyond, fighters actually used Wgr-21s as ground attack weapons; they weren't accurate but they were more destructive than the 20mm cannon & much less of a drag on their performance than, say bombs. It seems that an actual air to ground anti tank/anti vehicle rocket did not get adapted for luftwaffe use until they came up with that 'panzerblitze' rocket in 1945

  • @vbmvgmh
    @vbmvgmh 6 років тому +3

    Hi, the way of using wgr.21 rockets wasn´t to hit a bomber by the actual rocket. They were set to explode after a certain time they were fired off. So the purpose is to estimate the right time of firing off the rocket to it explodes as much close a bomber as possible and actual explosion should damage the bomber not the hit.

  • @countzero7
    @countzero7 6 років тому +1

    there is better chance to hits something with those rockets that is on your 6 by just jetising them, then bather lanching them at something infront :D
    Hope p-47 is next airplane they will get out for bobp

  • @blubb9004
    @blubb9004 5 років тому +1

    This is the ministry of ecology: Please pick up all the jettisoned rocket containers that you littered the beautiful landscape with.

    • @Sinistercabbage
      @Sinistercabbage 5 років тому +1

      Where have you been when the allies were hunting tigers and panthers?

  • @janhemmer1414
    @janhemmer1414 6 років тому

    Compare this to war thunder and you see how fucked up war thunders "realistic" flight models really are.

  • @LogicBomb34
    @LogicBomb34 6 років тому

    No one fucking German machine has no chance against spit IX.DCS makers know it as well.Only sick Il2 axis comunity confirms that it was different

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      that comments makes not a whole lot of sense to be totally honest. can't even say what your intention or implication is.

  • @mlhus
    @mlhus 6 років тому

    A bit redicilous not learning how to use the WGr BEFORE putting up any video of it. All you have to do is check out Wikipedia.

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      I know how they are used. But its impractical to use them in the sim that way. And yes in the heat of the moment I havent setup a timed fuze. Do you scroll wikipedia for 1-2h before playing? No? Good.
      Tell me if you find a formation of 600 B17s in the Sim. Then I fire my rockets at them.

  • @Pete_Harris
    @Pete_Harris 5 років тому

    Nice video. The AI is abysmal in this game in my opinion as the AI pilots just fly around in circles until they die! Would be a great sim/game if they improved it.

  • @momotheelder7124
    @momotheelder7124 6 років тому

    considering the rockets intended for long range shots outside of the gunner's range and further more against large, straight flying formations it probably isn't surprising you are missing in these 1 on 1 fights.

  • @schmiddy8433
    @schmiddy8433 6 років тому

    The rockets were designed to be launched at bomber formations all at once with a whole group of fighters at a standoff range, suffice to say they weren't very effective and if anything just slowed down how quickly fighters could intercept

  • @curtisspain8631
    @curtisspain8631 6 років тому

    From what I've read the rockets are supposed to be fired 1000 meters from a bomber box to break the box

  • @cucumber3623
    @cucumber3623 6 років тому

    9:00 holy shit

  • @jameswilliams1085
    @jameswilliams1085 6 років тому

    Ok! I obviously had the wrong end of the stick!! Thanks! Will try things differently then!

  • @YOUPIMatin123
    @YOUPIMatin123 4 роки тому

    Those are ground attack rockets?

  • @julian15421
    @julian15421 6 років тому

    Hope they add this rockets to the fw190 a3 or/and a5 as a late mod, in the TAW server those would be usefull to help anti tanks guys taking some aaa trucks, i hope they make some supression at least, making the crew run away

  • @AceCmbatguy25
    @AceCmbatguy25 6 років тому

    What are those protruding « balls » on the sides of the cowling would anyone know ? I find these later models of the 109 less enjoyable to look at but performance wise they are better. Great video !

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому +1

      Those are the famous buldges which house the cannon breach of the 13mm guns. The war situation required a beefy armament. And the guys did install 13mm MGs instead of 7,92mm MGs.
      But they didn't fit into the cowling. Therefore the cowling got enlarged with those bulges. Later on the entire cowling got bigger and the bulges vanished again with the Bf 109 G-10 and K-4

  • @Jay-Niner
    @Jay-Niner 5 років тому

    I did the same thing while testing the me262 recently. Picked an a20 as an opponent and the guy starts dogfighting me... not what I what I was going for

    • @Jbroker404
      @Jbroker404 5 років тому

      For this reason, on quick mission builder, I always select a group of planes for my AI enemy. They will fly in more of a formation; although they will still start going in circles eventually.

  • @geronimo5537
    @geronimo5537 6 років тому

    Sheriff since the game has added quite a few new planes since your original F4 and A3 reviews. Do think these planes still have merit and if your now aged information on them is still accurate as good fighter options? It would be amazing to have your opinion over all the German models in a comparison video.

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      I will do them all. Working on more MCN Videos like I did on the A-5.

  • @joselicona3852
    @joselicona3852 5 років тому

    The numbers in the upper right corner ,how to make them appear again use to have then now not anymore ,looks like they come and go whenever they want, thank you.

  • @jameswilliams1085
    @jameswilliams1085 6 років тому

    As always great vídeo! Many thanks!! May i ask that when you do the video con the spitfire mkix , could you please talk a bit about the boost /propeller pitch etc. Basically when you go from one supercharger to the next...! Not a tutorial! Those take faaar too long for you. Just a few comments. Thank you!

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому +1

      uh that hurts. ehm yes. There is nothing to talk about. You use higher RPM and Boost if you want more power. And even the SC switch is automated.

  • @ripper8771
    @ripper8771 6 років тому

    I also just bought it but it is the only one I have in the series. Is there a way I can create a Coop Mission that will only work with the SpitFire, BF-109 and FW?

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      Sure. You can just setup the planes you like. Later you can just fly in Single player

    • @ripper8771
      @ripper8771 6 років тому

      Sheriff's Sim Shack I meant multiplayer coop.

  • @sergysergy5568
    @sergysergy5568 6 років тому

    Just general question about the game. Which TRACKIR do you recommend to play comfortably. Cheers

    • @InVacuo
      @InVacuo 6 років тому +1

      Well I personally used to use the TrackIR5 with the TrackClip Pro which was great and I would recommend it (although the TCP is very flimsy so you have to be careful with it and also sunlight can cause tracking problems).
      But I will say I don't use it any more since getting an Oculus Rift, if you can spring for that you wont regret it for sims, I honestly don't play any sims any more without VR, but you do need a very good PC to run it with IL-2 well.

    • @cbz3237
      @cbz3237 6 років тому

      The best one you can afford.

  • @marekszewc1629
    @marekszewc1629 6 років тому

    This is new game or "udate (DLC?)" for BOS?

  • @tonykeith76
    @tonykeith76 6 років тому

    Hello Sheriff thank you for your videos.. ( Sometime I find the subtitles and sometimes not..)
    It depends of you?... ( I read that the "mortar rocket" were used from long distance mainly to broke bombers formations )

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      Automated subtitles get added by youtube automatically after some time. I rarely add subtitles myself and not when the video is in English anyway

    • @tonykeith76
      @tonykeith76 6 років тому

      I didn't know that ..Thankyou

  • @NeverB_Gameover
    @NeverB_Gameover 6 років тому

    Gustav is king.

  • @Sebastian-lk9xz
    @Sebastian-lk9xz 6 років тому

    There are other (and later) 109 models coming with bodenplatte, I've noticed. Do you think/estimate the G-14 will be competitive when all the other planes will be released?

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому +2

      Yes will be competetive. Not better everywhere, but for example better maneuvering than the P-47, Tempest and the P-51. And better climbing as well.
      Its decently fast, has a good acceleration.
      The K-4 will be better of course.

    • @Sebastian-lk9xz
      @Sebastian-lk9xz 6 років тому

      Sheriff's Sim Shack thanks for your answer. Still try to figure out which planes fits me best...

    • @Cockitupsuh
      @Cockitupsuh 6 років тому

      262!

  • @marduk87
    @marduk87 6 років тому

    What do you mean by resting the engine after using the MW50? Is it like 10mins on continous mode like 50% throttle?

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      No just no use of MW50. So Combat power at maximum. 83%

    • @cbz3237
      @cbz3237 6 років тому

      You have about 30 min of the MW50 but you have to use them at ~10 min intervals and then take a 10 min break in between where you have to fly at combat settings (1.30 ATA). This allows the MW50 to build up enough pressure to perform for another 10 min.

    • @MrCatlolz
      @MrCatlolz 6 років тому

      CBZ323 that's false. It simply lets those parts of the engines cool that aren't cooled by the mw50 infusion.

  • @Primetime397
    @Primetime397 6 років тому

    Great vid cheers

  • @tonykeith76
    @tonykeith76 6 років тому

    Ciao Sheriff how are you?
    Sorry but You are my best source of informations
    So I have a questions:
    Between the first and the second use of the boost on 190A8 and 109G14, You wrote that the engine need almost 10 minutes of rest
    With "rest" you meant combat power, continuos mode or less?
    ( Did You try the 190 A8?
    It looks to me very beautiful but, armament apart, I don't see real improvement in performances..
    I would like to know your opinion )
    Danke seher

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      A few minutes rest is enough. And combat power works already. The A-8 has more power than the A-5 and is in comparable configuration faster.

    • @tonykeith76
      @tonykeith76 6 років тому

      Ok.. But the A8 is heavier.. If you don't use boost, You climb like a B-17.... ( The boost is 10 + 10 + 10 Minutes in total? )

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      then use your boost...

    • @SheriffsSimShack
      @SheriffsSimShack  6 років тому

      No the boost in the A-8 is not MW50 and can be used more often as long as there are breaks.

    • @tonykeith76
      @tonykeith76 6 років тому

      Right, It has the C3-injection "Erhöhte Notleistung emergency" boost system, so I will use a stopwatch and I will do the checks ..
      Thanks again

  • @xaviersaavedra7442
    @xaviersaavedra7442 6 років тому +4

    It was operation bodenplatte not a battle for those who don’t know

  • @flare2000x
    @flare2000x 6 років тому

    Amazed by how easily you fought those Spitfires, and on combat power too! I had so much trouble beating the AI spit even on full power the whole time. It could always turn away from me and I had lots of trouble out climbing it. I had to take lots of head on shots and could rarely actually get on his six.
    However when I flew the Spitfire I could easily shoot down the G14 every time, no matter what he did.
    I think what you said about the G14 out rolling the Spit isn't correct, I've found that even with regular wings the Spitty rolls quite well.

  • @Cockitupsuh
    @Cockitupsuh 6 років тому

    30 millimeter goodness :)