The History of Handsome Jack - Borderlands

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  • One of video games greatest villains is Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2. Let's go through his story and descent into villainy
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  • @NightcoreBrawler
    @NightcoreBrawler 2 роки тому +3932

    Fun Fact: Handsome Jack, Was a Placeholder name... But everyone loved the name that much that it became his actual name

    • @evapapaeliopoulos7152
      @evapapaeliopoulos7152 2 роки тому +95

      thats so cool omg

    • @NightcoreBrawler
      @NightcoreBrawler 2 роки тому +60

      @@evapapaeliopoulos7152 I know, Plust he's my favourite Borderlands Character too

    • @birdiepitchfeather63
      @birdiepitchfeather63 2 роки тому +39

      I love when stuff like that works out

    • @noahdean9685
      @noahdean9685 2 роки тому +9

      I did not know that that was pretty cool

    • @teratoma.
      @teratoma. 2 роки тому +11

      explains why it doesnt really fit his shtick

  • @leophoenix2155
    @leophoenix2155 2 роки тому +2071

    "You are a Bandit, and I am the GODDAMN HERO!!!" -HANDSOME JACK. Best video game villain ever.

  • @KageDarkAngel
    @KageDarkAngel 2 роки тому +3053

    Jack. The villain who didn't start out as a villain. Tried to really be an actual hero but slipped off the stairs ascending to hero-dom and fell into the fiery pits of villainy and insanity. His actions were not morally correct but with the shit he went through before his fall. Harvey Dent said it best: "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain." Kind of suits Jack to a T.

    • @MrBlue-ci4ii
      @MrBlue-ci4ii 2 роки тому +152

      Well there betrayal everywhere and he was constantly dealt with hardships like how his folks died and had to live an abusive grandmother, his wife died from his daughters siren powers, his boss was a dick and worked his way up to control Helios only to get invaded by the lost legion and finally getting branded by lil

    • @gentletal5101
      @gentletal5101 2 роки тому +45

      Nah he is a hero

    • @coachlombardi9657
      @coachlombardi9657 2 роки тому +32

      @@MrBlue-ci4ii And also both lost the Eye of Helios and almost died with it because of his ex girlfriend, Moxxie.

    • @Shadow_Sonata
      @Shadow_Sonata 2 роки тому +49

      @@coachlombardi9657 Along with the actions of Lilith (who should have been the villain of Borderlands 3)

    • @Mrhojalata98
      @Mrhojalata98 2 роки тому +28

      Jack was never a hero. His plan all along was to indiscriminately murder entire populations of people because he classified them as ‘bandits’ as a form of revenge on the actions of ONE already dead man. Jack is objectively a fantastic character, but people really confuse his charm and charisma with him ever being a good person.

  • @regirock165
    @regirock165 2 роки тому +1678

    I will say thou, the voice actor for Jack is the goddamn hero... No, but really, amazing performance.

    • @NightcoreBrawler
      @NightcoreBrawler 2 роки тому +61

      He did come back to voice lines for Timothy in the Handsome Jackpot DLC as well as the Handsome Jackhammer SMG

    • @woos057
      @woos057 2 роки тому +28

      Well he also Voices Cell from DBZ I think. So voicing great antagonists is what he does best

    • @bbrodester1286
      @bbrodester1286 2 роки тому +28

      @@NightcoreBrawler I think, canonically, Jack's AI duplication is actually in that, as one of the lines from the Handsome Jackhammer are:
      "Ugh, shoot something already! Just because I'm an AI doesn't mean I can't die of boredom!"

    • @NightcoreBrawler
      @NightcoreBrawler 2 роки тому +5

      @@bbrodester1286 lol

    • @Darkoriax17
      @Darkoriax17 2 роки тому +16

      @@woos057 You’re thinking of Todd Haberkorn, who also voices Plankton (hence the Plankton and Cell memes.)
      The voice actor for Jack is Dameon Clarke. Who has even stated this was a very unique role for him that he will probably remember for the rest of his life.

  • @artdroid29
    @artdroid29 2 роки тому +1684

    The scene where Jack kills his boss makes me both giddy but also gives me chills

    • @ssick3402
      @ssick3402 2 роки тому +6

      You high?

    • @Dianophi
      @Dianophi 2 роки тому +86

      @@ssick3402 considering how the pre sequel played out, with Jack being a normal guy that had to put up with Tassiter's harassment, I know what OP mean. Giddy as, Tassiter was also an asshole. Chills as we know how Jack turns out later.

    • @artdroid29
      @artdroid29 2 роки тому +41

      @@Dianophi I was also giddy because it was a reveal to the Jack we love. I spent the whole game wondering when he’d become Handsome Jack and when I that scene happened I knew what we’d get as a result

    • @Dianophi
      @Dianophi 2 роки тому +1

      @@artdroid29 yea, caught that and I agree :)

    • @bigmyke2008
      @bigmyke2008 2 роки тому +18

      Do you know the difference between choking and strangulation?

  • @namanex5210
    @namanex5210 2 роки тому +2281

    You see the main problem with a character like Jack is that you write him too well. causeing all antagonist after him to not feel as complex or as charismatic towards your audience.

    • @RogerRoids
      @RogerRoids 2 роки тому +215

      Well said. I don't think the Calypsos were bad antagonists, but following up from somebody like Handsome Jack is just too difficult to do.

    • @maksymisaiev1828
      @maksymisaiev1828 2 роки тому +96

      @@RogerRoids during the play, I hate Tyreen more like 80% of the time. Only in the end her high voice was more close to villain. But in general she was a psycho, who decided to be a god. She killed people because of want, not because of need (unlike Jack). Her history is quite simple and plain, so she is not worth to be a good villain.
      Troy is more look like a villain, because partially he shares some Handsome Jack history. He was in a cage and being bullied by her twin-sister. He always was in a shadow, because he is parasite. And when he have chance, he tries to use it to become something more.
      But Tyreen... she is bad villain, because there are no motives for her. Being in a cage may be ok, but revenge should be only on her father. Why to destroy whole universe just because your father tried to protect you even in a bad way? Why kill dozens of innocent people for just a lot of power. God-syndrom of Tyreen is much worse than hero-syndrom from Jack, just because Jack believed in the thing, that what he is doing was correct. He tried to protect the world he grown in with family and ideas. Yes, he was a freaking coward, but he did it correctly. Tyreen just wanted become a god for... nothing. She doesn't have good motives. She doesn't like her family:
      Typhoon - father, is a bad guy, who closed her in a cage;
      Troy is just a parasite and leecher of her own powers, restricting her power and glory
      Bandits... they are fresh meat, nothing more
      So for Tyreen there is no reason to become a god. She doesn't have anybody to hate, except her father and whole universe for being like it is. She wants power, just because nobody can bully her afterwards, etc. She is a bad villain, obviously. The villain from the all of this action movies like Rambo, Mortal Combat and other movies from 80ths.
      So yeah, in total, twins are bad villains. They are not antagonists in a pure form, as they are not against vault hunters, they against the whole world like small childs. "World is unfair, so we will destroy it" is not good motivation for the antagonist.

    • @hustler666100
      @hustler666100 2 роки тому +23

      @@RogerRoids I agree. After how good Jack was, I think having the bandits all together led by a Siren was quite good for bl3 and Tyreens siren ability. After this though I think we will need something relating to presequel ending or something to do with the last Siren ability we dont know and now being on charge of defending the vaults.

    • @kiwinisuki
      @kiwinisuki 2 роки тому +25

      Honestly, with the first Borderlands game not having a real presence with a central antagonist, it kind of felt like a bunch of mini-bosses and then a huge monster fight. So Jack became the ultimate, all-encompasing villain

    • @robus5860
      @robus5860 2 роки тому +2

      @@maksymisaiev1828 underrated comment

  • @iamacoolpersonandicanread4768
    @iamacoolpersonandicanread4768 2 роки тому +152

    handsome jack is the embodiment of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

    • @stuart1liles371
      @stuart1liles371 Рік тому +2

      He says this when hes an AI in tales from the borderlands

  • @ikewaranarinji2721
    @ikewaranarinji2721 2 роки тому +921

    Jack definitely isn't a good guy but if I was crossed as many times as him, had my daughter killed, had everything I cared about taken, I'd be pretty fucked up too

    • @sosukemickey1041
      @sosukemickey1041 2 роки тому +81

      no one in borderlands is a good guy imo

    • @naufalr.9521
      @naufalr.9521 2 роки тому +64

      @@sosukemickey1041 it's literally in the lyrics of the opening song

    • @ricksanchez8584
      @ricksanchez8584 2 роки тому +67

      "This ain't no place for no hero
      This ain't no place for no better man."

    • @jonmadan708
      @jonmadan708 2 роки тому

      Batman had a worse life even though he had money.

    • @strikefg
      @strikefg Рік тому +41

      @@jonmadan708 I'm sorry but jack went through way more than batman

  • @DiabolicalMeek
    @DiabolicalMeek 2 роки тому +818

    Bay faaaaaaaaar my favorite villain in any media, period. His descent into madness and belief that he is the actual hero is amazing because he is right in a certain sense. The vault hunters are, in essence, just mercs while Jack tried to civilize Pandore before the power got to his head. We probably won't get a villain this good in any game in a while, change my mind!

    • @pumpkinboi9441
      @pumpkinboi9441 2 роки тому +15

      its hard to argue with his assesment

    • @medicmaniauk5710
      @medicmaniauk5710 2 роки тому +1

      @@pumpkinboi9441 why would you

    • @drippinwet774
      @drippinwet774 2 роки тому +7

      Madness?! You're a bandit! What makes Lilith any more good than Jack?

    • @drippinwet774
      @drippinwet774 2 роки тому +34

      Play the pre-sequel, people. Look at how Moxxi, Roland, and Lilith did him dirty. Twice. *TWICE*

    • @pumpkinboi9441
      @pumpkinboi9441 2 роки тому +1

      @@medicmaniauk5710 because im a memlord

  • @sealake7935
    @sealake7935 2 роки тому +206

    The best villains are the ones that genuinely believe what they’re doing. Jack genuinely felt like the good guy, which makes him even scarier

    • @traceyjacobsen8544
      @traceyjacobsen8544 Рік тому +1

      That and those that are loved for being hated, like you genuinely hate them, but love them for it
      Best example I know of is Micah from RDR2

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy Рік тому +1

      jack would openly joke about brutally murdering someone in front of their family only to claim that he's a hero
      he knows he's no better than psychos with sawaxes
      and still calls himself the good guy

    • @hornyducks4090
      @hornyducks4090 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@ryszakowy be sure he genuinely believed that they were bandits and it wasn't worth feeling for them.

    • @BLACKICEXlV
      @BLACKICEXlV 21 день тому

      yea hes been betrayed many times to the point hes afraid and that pushed him over the edge

  • @skullfishh
    @skullfishh 2 роки тому +277

    Jennifer Green did such a good job on Angel's voice.

    • @phantomblade9167
      @phantomblade9167 Місяць тому

      Jennifer Green is not the voice of angel. Do yiur research h please.

    • @skullfishh
      @skullfishh Місяць тому

      @phantomblade9167 my brother in christ, I made that comment 2 years ago
      Cry bout it
      also yes she is in BL3 goofy, "do your research" 😑

    • @iyeetsecurity922
      @iyeetsecurity922 Місяць тому

      ​@@phantomblade9167yo mama

    • @Jona-cn3le
      @Jona-cn3le 10 годин тому

      Angel's voice is amazing.

  • @jacobrobinson787
    @jacobrobinson787 2 роки тому +215

    Jack's descent into madness began when he lost his wife, so in the end all he really wanted was revenge - vindication for the asshole for forced his own daughter to kill her mother. And I cannot say I blame him. I'd do the exact same fucking thing probably, just without the whole locking my daughter away bit that is.

    • @kartikgupta9117
      @kartikgupta9117 Рік тому +2

      i think somebody said that his 1st or 2nd wife suggested "project angel"
      i am not very sure tho

  • @zainilhirani3352
    @zainilhirani3352 2 роки тому +148

    Jacks idea: ✅
    Jacks execution of said idea and his morales: ❌

    • @Hop.entune
      @Hop.entune 3 місяці тому +2

      mile morales

    • @iyeetsecurity922
      @iyeetsecurity922 Місяць тому

      Sometimes you've gotta crack a million skulls to make a brain pancake!

  • @EDEN-xj3qm
    @EDEN-xj3qm 2 роки тому +650

    I mean if you concider borderlands 3 he was kinda right about the bandit thing.

    • @michaelknox3715
      @michaelknox3715 2 роки тому +235

      To be honest I believe the Calypso Twins were basically the end result of what Jack thought would happen if he didn't kill all the bandits

    • @OverlordToast
      @OverlordToast 2 роки тому +172

      I feel like part of the reason jack hated the crimson raiders was because Lilith shoved a 1000 degree vault key in his face.

    • @maksymisaiev1828
      @maksymisaiev1828 2 роки тому +88

      @@OverlordToast and destroyed the eye of destroyer, messing with all bandit-killing plan.

    • @ahdnoh
      @ahdnoh 2 роки тому +21

      But wasn't jack trying to use the eye of the destroyer to blow up Pandora? Wouldn't that have just opened the great vault and killed everything in the universe?

    • @OverlordToast
      @OverlordToast 2 роки тому +63

      @@ahdnoh Jack wanted to get rid of the bandits and psychos using the power of the vault, if you actually see what handsome Jack was attempting to do you might actually change your mind about him.

  • @ImperialWarrior6490
    @ImperialWarrior6490 2 роки тому +712

    That mission in Borderlands 3 broke me. Hearing all of Jack and Angel's backstory was so fucking sad, yet it's all played like a joke by Tannis. I was so tearful, furious, and frustrated.
    It was such an interesting way to reveal backstory, but it played like it was nothing important and not worth getting into. The writers... what the fuck were they thinking?

    • @notavailable8201
      @notavailable8201 2 роки тому +100

      They weren't just mocking what Anthony Birch wrote yet they make up excuses for their talentless wreck saying ohhh you don't understand the story that well. Gee of coarse not it's not like we spent hours and hours of playtime playing 2 and TPS just to get to this point in the damn story since the first game

    • @thelostone7512
      @thelostone7512 2 роки тому +148

      A perfect representation of the writing in BL3. A genuinely sad scene gets played for a joke ruining all emotion that could be felt for the story.

    • @andrewb8809
      @andrewb8809 2 роки тому +50

      To be fair, it's far from the first time the series takes death and/or suffering lightly. Tannis is a total nutcase so that checks out too. I know this is an old comment, but oh well.

    • @kysdie9979
      @kysdie9979 2 роки тому +29

      Idk why they said tannis takes it as a joke when tannis obviously sympathises with angel 😭

    • @eclypse7998
      @eclypse7998 2 роки тому +16

      This makes me think about a very possible lack of empathy towards Jack. We know that loads of people in Borderlands have amounts of reasons to hate him, and he indeed wasn't a saint, but knows his story and still makes joke about it? To me, this is trully cruel.

  • @thatscrazy5176
    @thatscrazy5176 2 роки тому +154

    Finally he was the best boss he makes you feel sorry for him with his backstory

    • @Zoey-zj3fw
      @Zoey-zj3fw 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah... Then you find out about his daughter

  • @ReimondoCortexalotl
    @ReimondoCortexalotl 2 роки тому +310

    I can't help but feel bad for John (Handsome Jack), he's grown up fatherless and was constantly abused by his grandmother. Out of all of the characters from the Borderlands games, John is by far, the character who's gone through the most worst changes, he was fired by Harold Tassiter, dumped and almost killed by Moxxi. The final straw was Lilith punching the vault symbol, branding John's face with it, from that last moment there Handsome Jack was ultimately born. In Tales From The Borderlands, Jack reveals some things that happened in his life but I won't get into that. This is why John is my favorite character in the Borderlands franchise, he technically DID save Elpis but he had to do it at a big cost. Props to Dameon Clarke for his performance as John/Handsome Jack, amazing voice acting and performance.

    • @misfit_sailor388
      @misfit_sailor388 2 роки тому +9

      THIS IS AMAZING WORDING. I 100% agree

    • @bread5384
      @bread5384 Рік тому +12

      I'd say a character who goes through the second worst would be Claptrap. This man literally tries to offer his loyalty and friendship only to get mud in return. Granted he does screw up often but he genuinely wants to help people and make friends. It's more sad how that optimistic,annoying, and ecstatic voice is just how he is programmed to sound while he's actually extremely depressed. People gotta cut some slack on my boy and show him some love, truly underrated

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster Рік тому +6

      Jack saved Elpis, but at the cost of his soul.

  • @Laxhoop
    @Laxhoop 2 роки тому +140

    The problem with Jack is that 90% of his dialogue was improvised, which is why his presence was so distinct compared to everyone else’s, because, essentially, he had his own writer, separate from the rest of the cast.
    But this also means that the Borderlands team could never successfully write the character on their own, or create a good enough follow-up villain for the sequel. And they didn’t. I watched a three hour breakdown of how Borderlands 3 fails, and I still don’t remember the main villain’s name. I remember that the story *hinted* that her brother might have a plot to overthrow her, due to jealousy, but then he dies, and that whole plotline is forgotten.
    The other issue is that the Borderlands writers, especially Randy, seem extraordinarily petty. All of the new fan-favorite characters that were introduced in Tales from the Borderlands, were either completely flanderized over a single DLC for B2, or they were flanderized, AND had their voice actor changed, or, they were just not in the game with no explanation as to where they were. Like, you may not remember it, but “Rhys” was f*cking TRENDING on twitter, every time a new trailer for Borderlands 3 dropped, and fans spotted a hint that he’d be in the game. People f*cking LOVED tales, and its cast, and how it expanded on the characters that already existed.
    And Gearbox just said “Nope, f*ck that”, just like how they had constantly tried to reel in Jack’s VO.
    Oh, and Randy Pitchford is a sexual predator who physically assaults his staff.

    • @ScruffyBeard
      @ScruffyBeard Рік тому +16

      randy pitchford is the reason I never touched another BL game

    • @Nukestarmaster
      @Nukestarmaster Рік тому +12

      That explains so much. Especially how Jacks character arc in TPS is so well written while the rest of the game ... isn't.

  • @im9550
    @im9550 2 роки тому +338

    I’d love to see the history of face mcshooty

  • @katiecross3320
    @katiecross3320 2 роки тому +77

    In 2019, I met the man behind Handsome Jack, Dameon Clarke. Meeting him made me love the character even more than I thought was possible. He was incredible to talk to.

  • @clank7298
    @clank7298 2 роки тому +124

    I remembered hating Jack throughout the game, and especially satisfied when I let Lilith kill him herself.
    Then until I played Tales from the Borderlands, and listening to Jack and Rhys moments, especially in the end when Jack was begging Rhys to not destroy the eye he was in.
    Part of me felt a little bad knowing of his past story that explained much of what Jack did, and what he had to do to get where he was up until then.
    (I like to think Rhys kept the eye and had Handsome Jack trapped in there as time passes, but sadly it’s never really clarified what he did with it.)

    • @shakirmorgan4840
      @shakirmorgan4840 2 роки тому +19

      His AI's in a gun now. In borderlands 3, there's a gun called the handsome jackhammer which speaks in his voice.

    • @Bordpie
      @Bordpie Рік тому +11

      I think Jack will definitely come back in some form. He already kind of is with Timothy Lawrence his body double. Although a different person, Tim was injected with some of Jacks DNA to make him more like him, which becomes apparent during the DLC, but he's still a distinct person. I like to think of Tim as the alternate universe good version of Jack.
      When I saw Jack appear as the digital version in Tales from the Borderlands I was so hyped. I had played the pre-sequel just before and remembered the Jack AI quest. In the New Tales from the Borderlands, Rhys has regressed a bit in character from his previous appearances, he's more corporate and seems to have forgotten his previous character arc, even compared to BL3. Maybe he secretly put the Jack AI back in his eye?

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy Рік тому

      i kill jack for felicity
      it's my personal grudge

  • @bigmyke2008
    @bigmyke2008 2 роки тому +37

    You either love to hate him, or hate to love him, that’s how you know you’ve nailed your antagonist

  • @gabriellockwood2780
    @gabriellockwood2780 2 роки тому +236

    You can kind of feel bad for John//Jack near the end of BL2, he's lost the one person he still actually "cares" for-Angel, and in his mind, he doesn't realize that it was HER choice to die.
    It's actually really heartbreaking, but then you remeber that Jack is just as psychotic and insane as every other bandit you kill along the way to defeat/destroy the Destroyer at that point.

    • @orbito04
      @orbito04 2 роки тому +30

      I feel that he does realise it was her choice but any “sane” father couldn’t come close to comprehending that she would choose death over living(yes I know jack isn’t who you think of when someone says sane but you get the point) so instead he does what most peoples reaction would be and blames it on somebody else. And that uncomfortably human reaction is what makes him not just a psychopath with a company backing him but one of the best written antagonists in fiction.

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy Рік тому +4

      @@orbito04 dude literally put her in isolation and pumped her full of eridium
      yeah it's a wonder why she would want to die

    • @JDog2656
      @JDog2656 7 місяців тому +3

      @@orbito04 just remember, Typhon Deleon "Calypso twins dad" lost his son to the Vault hunters, but did he blame us for it? No. He understood what they became and that he failed as a father. They became monsters, and they needed to be stopped. How took responsibility and gave his life to save the universe from the monsters he helped create. If someone like that can find that strength, anyone can

  • @Patches_Ito
    @Patches_Ito Рік тому +8

    He always had good intentions but stress and insanity drove him to sociopathy. Deep down he still has good intentions to revive Pandora, but in a very different way.

  • @tackyoptic
    @tackyoptic 2 роки тому +50

    Jack's definitely one of my favorite baddies, mainly because he's built up so well. That's where the Calypsos shit the bed, lol. Their development is asscheeks.

    • @alexsteinbach9899
      @alexsteinbach9899 2 роки тому +5

      Not just the developtment, theire all in all just really bad written characters. Not to mention their ridiculous physical appearance and voice synchronisation

  • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
    @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 2 роки тому +165

    If Lilith and Co didn’t exist, Jack might’ve been a power-hungry but mostly sane CEO who fixed an entire planet by wiping it clean from murderous psychos. Almost everything he’s done was in self-defence, like with the Meriff or Zarpderp, but it’s portrayed as he’s the bad guy? He wouldn’t be the bad guy if he wasn’t betrayed for no reason multiple times.

    • @aaronh678
      @aaronh678 2 роки тому +27

      But tbh. As much as I agree. Fiona and her sister would have been killed + possibly Athena and Janie Spriggs and whoever else who is sand on Pandora. Its a good idea but killing everyone when there are good people, its a bit of a bad one.

    • @frank8917
      @frank8917 2 роки тому +7

      @@aaronh678 and Sanctuary would’ve been blown up

    • @CrimsonFIame
      @CrimsonFIame 2 роки тому +33

      Once he found put how to abuse Angel's powers there was no going back. Alot of people seem to forget he was manipulating the vault hunters from the first borderlands to gain access to what was hidden in the vault. His course was set soon as he learned his daughter was a Siren didn't matter who he used or killed. Jack is without a doubt the badguy. But lilith has done some questionable things aswell

    • @frank8917
      @frank8917 2 роки тому +7

      @@CrimsonFIame well we can say this about Jack, he is not Lilith
      Is there a possibility that half of the existing sirens are evil?

    • @CrimsonFIame
      @CrimsonFIame 2 роки тому +5

      @@frank8917 That's an interesting theory. Like what if it's the vault that draws them in and affects their personality and behavior

  • @Sophie-mv7bd
    @Sophie-mv7bd 2 роки тому +16

    Jack is the epitome of "perhaps I treated you too harshly"

  • @devildolphin2102
    @devildolphin2102 2 роки тому +136

    Best “Villain” You Slanderous Man You.
    Handsome Jack the Greatest HERO of Borderlands Killing Psychos, Mercenaries and Friggin Bandits and making Pandora a better place for Decent folks.

    • @TehSeksyManz
      @TehSeksyManz 2 роки тому +15

      Except his definition of bandit was way too broad and included innocent people.

    • @tackyoptic
      @tackyoptic 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, he's still a mass murderer no matter who he killed lol. I dunno why people are cool with that.

    • @roque87
      @roque87 2 роки тому +22

      @@tackyoptic Because Pandora is absolutely filled to the brim with psychopaths and the definition of innocent gets blurried in that world?

    • @thewanderingartists
      @thewanderingartists 2 роки тому +19

      @@tackyoptic Pandora is 1% good people and 99% bandits who shoot first then talk. And Jack wanted to create a civilized place. Sometimes you gotta do evil for better good. Jack was a Hero!

    • @misfit_sailor388
      @misfit_sailor388 2 роки тому +1

      YES👏👏

  • @ienjoykeylimepie
    @ienjoykeylimepie 2 роки тому +82

    I was just finishing up The Complete Borderlands timeline when I saw this video. Still one of my fav ytbers!

  • @Lotties_handsaw
    @Lotties_handsaw 2 роки тому +27

    I know a lot of people want to let Jack rest, but I think he's pretty much the only Character in the series with a strong enough personal narrative to drive the upcoming borderlands movie's plot.

  • @yolobro2071
    @yolobro2071 11 місяців тому +7

    It just breaks my heart how he started out so good. I cried when I found this out. I feel so sorry for Angel. She lost her father long before he died…. Heartbreaking and makes me so sad….

  • @professionalretard4304
    @professionalretard4304 2 роки тому +29

    During the rant he goes on before he dies to the vault hunter where he says he’s a hero actually made me tear up a bit

  • @generaltamago4931
    @generaltamago4931 2 роки тому +22

    One of the villains that you don't forget

  • @sunnyjim9810
    @sunnyjim9810 2 роки тому +35

    I loved what Telltale did with his AI's story in TFTB. Such an amazing climax, as well the fact that it ends just as tragically as his whole journey tragically started.

  • @carbodude5414
    @carbodude5414 2 роки тому +97

    He was great in BL2 but he was even better in Tales from the Borderlands, benefiting from having a protagonist that can actually talk back to him
    His finale in TFTB was far more memorable than in BL2

    • @seltrixbl2623
      @seltrixbl2623 2 роки тому +2

      man i want to know if keeping the eye is canon or not!

    • @aaronh678
      @aaronh678 2 роки тому

      @@seltrixbl2623 I wish. But I don't think we will ever find out what the true canon was.

  • @stephenenoric1395
    @stephenenoric1395 2 роки тому +14

    The original picture of Jack with his wife was found in the Jakobs Manor, meaning either him or his wife had connections with the Jakobs

  • @greasehole9158
    @greasehole9158 2 роки тому +10

    It’s funny how Jack had more character and depth in borderlands 3 with a side quest and echo logs than both of the calypsos who were the main villain throughout the whole game. I actually hope they retcon Jack back ngl cause he’s so much better than any other villain gearbox has tried

  • @thewanderingartists
    @thewanderingartists 2 роки тому +32

    Honestly Jack's story is the best fleshed out stories I've seen in a video game. I love Handsome Jack !! I wish there was a spin off where we play as Jack and decimate every resistance on Pandora and make it a safe place, and also kill vault hunters too

    • @danielward8645
      @danielward8645 2 роки тому +1

      i’ve been saying the same thing for years. writing in video games usually leaves lots to be desired. Borderlands 2, and in particular handsome jacks story line, is a major exception.
      I had high hopes for BL3 because of that. I thought, “hey, gearbox has this writing thing figured out”.
      The next best thing i’ve played after BL2, Pre Sequel and Tales is probably the Bioshock trilogy. I rate it a distant 2nd but it’s pretty good.

    • @BlazeGamerZX
      @BlazeGamerZX 2 роки тому +2

      Lol I need to see a what if scenario where Jack succeed.

  • @MissMaeday
    @MissMaeday 2 роки тому +29

    Borderlands 2 will always be my favorite!

    • @mcgeufer
      @mcgeufer 2 роки тому

      Yeah, too bad there won't ever be BL3...

  • @mastadon1154
    @mastadon1154 2 роки тому +35

    For me while I pretty much figure Jack is dead his prescence throughout Borderlands 3 is still seen especially with the Krieg dlc and the Handsome Jackpot.
    Makes me wonder if he ever had a back up plan in the event he died.
    But a few ideas ran through my head
    On how jack could come back into the series.
    1. Via Timonthy Jack personality has been integrated into Timonthy it was something that kept bugging me. What happens if Timonthy was pushed to the point the Jack personality takes over and he more or less resumes his role as the galactic Tyrant. The Casino was also a perfect cover whose to say this didn't already happen to Timonthy.
    Bit of a stretch I know but it could be a possibility
    2. Much like Zarpedon he was infused with Ancient Knowlege. But Zarpedon showed a unique ability in the pre-sequel that caught my attention she became ascended Could it be possible that Jack could come back in this state?
    3. Now this theory would seem corny even this was memed upon in the game. The New-U station or just the New-U program in general in the event of his demise he would respawn using his own unique New-U basically come somewhat immortal in that sense and he would secretly manipulate events in the shadows given everything has fallen all to pieces.
    4. Now another thought occurred to me was the potential of a Heir to his Corporation. He had three lovers maybe the potential of a secret love child pops up and continues Jack's Ambition.
    5. While it's still a mystery of Sirens, vaults, etc. A huge what if Scenario here is one vault monster or Siren has the ability to raise the dead and he comes back ready to take the reigns once more.
    6. Screw it since TK baha has become a Zombie
    Jack Zombie he comes back for a spoof run.
    7. Finally while this is a "huge stretch" this is going back to the siren and vault monsters powers deal the idea of Multiverse theory. Just because they got rid of one Jack could there be a possibility of another jack just waiting around in another Universe.
    To me I don't think his story is exactly over, I do believe he has a role to play in the future of the series. But I don't see a Borderlands 4 in the foreseeable future.

    • @thewanderingartists
      @thewanderingartists 2 роки тому +9

      Gearbox admitted that they were going to bring back handsome Jack for borderlands 3.

    • @maksymisaiev1828
      @maksymisaiev1828 2 роки тому +2

      based on wiki, all 6 powers are defined. We have phaseshift (technology), phaselock (telekinesis), phasewalk (lilith teleport power), phasetrance (amara unique buddha style), phaseleech (twins power and lifecycle manpulation) and there was sixth type of power - animal manipulation (probably this type of power can control living things by telepathy) - in the separate comic book for borderlands. So unless they mark the comic book uncannon, we have 6 principle powers, non of which has control over life and death (leeching killing possibility is still not about life):
      telekinesis
      teleport
      technokinesis
      energy leeching
      physical astral form
      telepathy
      There is no way to resurrection by using Sirens power, unless there is a way to combine them (which we never saw and it was never mentioned, that Sirens can make any synergy of powers). Also, resurrection of body will not give personality development, as there is no personality. Zombies do not evolve, so seeing Handsome Jack in 4th game series will be really bad for Handsome Jack.
      Secret child of Handsome Jack by the way will play same scenario as Calypsos. Even with good character and charisma, it will still be bad motivation and story. By this time, even if there was a secret child, it should be like 15-20 years old (considering, that child was born after angel, who was 17-18 year old on moment of death and counting that there is 7 years difference) + age of difference between bl3 and bl4. To create such plot you had to leave any marks. Based on the Handsome Jack character, he is not somebody, who grow young generation with the same ideology. I would expect Handsome Jack folowwer much more possible, than his sibling with the same idea. And of course, there were no marks about any such sibling in any game.

  • @phoenix44ice59
    @phoenix44ice59 2 роки тому +18

    I would love to see a piece of borderlands media cover what might have happened if Jack didn't go down his path of madness or were he didn't lose his first wife, since that seems to be were it started. Either as a small comic series or maybe a small game would be cool to see.

    • @RKyle-wx6rp
      @RKyle-wx6rp 2 роки тому +4

      To be honest, it probably started when his grandmother drowned his kitten because he didn’t make his bed. Shit like that will mess a person up

  • @littlelogan34
    @littlelogan34 2 роки тому +10

    In my 18 years of gaming handsome jack is hands down my favorite villian ever.

  • @Wynorrific
    @Wynorrific 2 роки тому +9

    Jack was one of the best villains ever made. I sure hope Gearbox/2k are able to recreate a villain almost as good as him some day

  • @Badmunky64
    @Badmunky64 2 роки тому +45

    The lack of Jack is a big reason why I never picked up BL3. Plus the free DLC for BL2 that connects it to BL3 disincentivized me with its terrible writing.

    • @evapapaeliopoulos7152
      @evapapaeliopoulos7152 2 роки тому +17

      tbh bl3 isnt engaging in its main story but the gameplay is really fucking fun and smoother. also you see a lot of loved characters return in bigger roles, imo its only worth getting on sale.

    • @notavailable8201
      @notavailable8201 2 роки тому +3

      @@evapapaeliopoulos7152For me it doesn't feel worth it I do like great gameplay but if the story lacks and isn't very immersive I'll get bored really quick that's why I bought the Handsome Collection to replay old memories instead of waiting for 3 to come out the next day. Cause in 2 and TPS i can still feel myself chuckle at some of the dialogue and from my viewing the bits in 3 can't compare. Anthony Birch is top tier in writing though I might give Tiny Tina's Twisted Wonderland a try

  • @kaptainkoala8476
    @kaptainkoala8476 2 роки тому +7

    Borderlands 3 actually potentially explains how Jack would know about the first vault being real before anyone else. Sirens have some form of ability to see and communicate with the spirits of the previous sirens, which is shown when Ava sees maya upon receiving her power. Therefore Angel may have discovered that the vault was real due to visions from an earlier siren.

  • @logix8969
    @logix8969 2 роки тому +183

    To think, if we'd let Jack live and succeed in his plans, we might have got an interesting story in Borderlands 3! Yeah I went there.

    • @noahdean9685
      @noahdean9685 2 роки тому +20

      He would probably form an unlikely alliance with the raiders to fight the children of the vault.

    • @uumdi
      @uumdi 2 роки тому +34

      He was right... we WERE the villains...
      I refuse to believe Ava and Tyreen were my fault. That is just too painful, haha

    • @madcap3450
      @madcap3450 Рік тому

      I'd start saying what I hate about borderlands 3's story but I dont want to write you a novel

    • @jojomuppet1820
      @jojomuppet1820 Рік тому

      @@madcap3450 More like Volume after Volume on how not to make a successful story gameplay fun story too much streamer jokes coming from someone with a deep hatred for TikTok have to mute my tv till i sabotage the twins propaganda crap Gearbox loves shoving in our faces with Lilith and Maya's defeat like they want to piss off the players throughout the game instead of them wanting to come back for more

    • @madcap3450
      @madcap3450 Рік тому +1

      @@jojomuppet1820 Let's not forget Ava. Cause including an annoying scrappy doo character who inexplicably is never even blamed for all the bs they cause and who constantly gets all the credit for everything the player does is great right?!

  • @rj20za
    @rj20za 2 роки тому +7

    Roland's death really hit me hard as a kid playing this game. Borderlands is such a great series

  • @dagothurgaming7016
    @dagothurgaming7016 2 роки тому +10

    At the end of the day jack was a loving parent until the whole plot of borderlands pre sequel, Jack has clearly descended into madness but before that he was a loving father and a husband. He was a father until the bandit held angel hostage. It's a shame but it is clear

  • @Titansdeath
    @Titansdeath 2 роки тому +9

    Let's take a moment and appreciate, that Jack tried to take 6 VH at the same time. Odds were highly against him - yet he took the fight.

    • @jakelee7083
      @jakelee7083 Рік тому +1

      He outright maimed Claptrap, so I'd say technically 7 vault hunters plus the OG 3 where he defeated Roland, Lilith, and Mordecai's Bloodwing

  • @annihilationsquadron8585
    @annihilationsquadron8585 2 роки тому +9

    If they make borderlands 4 hopefully you can bring jack back. To me he didn't seem like a villain. Just a good guy who lost his way. And plus lilth and her friends are the ones who caused him to act that way

  • @phant0mgltch192
    @phant0mgltch192 Рік тому +3

    The Calypso Twins were a fun duo to go up against, but they could never compete with our Handsome Jack

  • @DEATH1656_
    @DEATH1656_ 2 роки тому +14

    Welcome to pandora kiddos

  • @jonhard1049
    @jonhard1049 Рік тому +5

    I understand the father's anger towards his daugther, but the fact that he didn't accept the daughter's powers and only made it look like a horrible curse was his biggest mistake. I'm sure of that there could be a way for him and his daughter to live life with these powers and the loss of her mother. It's not easy having someone you love to be killed by soemone else you also love such as a daughter. So much guilt and so much else.

  • @FrostPhoenix_
    @FrostPhoenix_ 2 роки тому +44

    Handsome Jack is literally like the Breaking Bad of video games. Such a deep and beautifully crafted character with an astounding personality and wits but off course having the villainous intent behind his every action because of his past.
    Borderlands 3 was such a missed opportunity. Instead of taking this type of awesome writing to the next level, we instead got unnecessary character deaths, ridiculous and shitty villains who have the personality of a potato and inherit all the "modern tik tok trends" (which is stupid), Lilith literally was dumbed down of her former self, and worst of all - a non enjoyable and unattractive child brat now the main focus of the series, like what the actual fuck?! Don't get me wrong, I absolutely enjoyed the hell out of Borderlands 3's gameplay it's the best of all the series. Everything was improved on a large scale, all except the writing. Atleast the DLC's were somewhat redeemable, and Psycho Krieg DLC left a very emotional touch.
    Hopefully Borderlands 4 doesn't lack the narrative knack unlike BL3, because we all know that the great Borderlands war is coming among the various worlds. And it would be very sad to see such a big time event play out like a D grade average generic plot if the story is bad.

  • @Aimlessimp05
    @Aimlessimp05 2 роки тому +66

    Handsom Jack is a hero. Knowing the events of 3 the twins would have still made thier way to pandora, Jack not only new this but also decided to make the ultimate sacrifice in order to save everyone and everything. Without Jack being Jack in the second game the twins would have become gods like they had planned. Jack made sure there would be people strong enough to deal with the twins as he knew he was not going to be the one to do it. He also made sure there was kne less vault monster for the twins to obtain. With out Jack all would be lost. Jack is a hero, as he has been telling us. I miss you Jack.

    • @fhufhfhjfjfjf9534
      @fhufhfhjfjfjf9534 2 роки тому

      how did jack kniw about them

    • @Aimlessimp05
      @Aimlessimp05 2 роки тому +4

      @@fhufhfhjfjfjf9534 spoilers...... In the presequel jack sees the future using the elpis vault. He saw all the events of of 2 meaning he knew he was going to die. We don't get to see everything he saw but it is safe to assume he saw the events of 3 or atleast parts of it.

    • @J-manli
      @J-manli Рік тому +5

      @@Aimlessimp05
      Due to Lilith's interference, Jack only got fragments of the events of 2 and only up until the awakening of the Warrior. His surprise at Team 2's victory over the Warrior indicates (to me at least) that he never saw that outcome. If he did truly see all of the events of BL2 and beyond in a more orderly manner or without interruption, he would have known that his course of action after Pre-Sequel's campaign would have lead to his own downfall.
      That subsequently means he never saw the Calypso Twins rising into power.

  • @Edward_Nashton
    @Edward_Nashton 5 місяців тому +1

    Knowing the events of his past makes it even more sad when he's raging at the vault hunter in Borderlands 2 before he died. It makes it sad because he was so driven by his own hate that he was literally incapable of seeing the evil things he did to all of pandora. And couldn't reflect his actions because he went absolut blind by the wrath on bandits. This character is so unbelievable well written and his voice actor is just chef kiss. What a legend

  • @gastly202gaming4
    @gastly202gaming4 2 роки тому +17

    It's suspected that Jack's wife was a Jakobs as that photo of them can be found in the Jakobs manor

    • @jojomuppet1820
      @jojomuppet1820 Рік тому +2

      Would explain why he grew to despise Jakobs weapons it was a bitter reminder of his wifes death

  • @abrahamabdul1160
    @abrahamabdul1160 11 місяців тому +2

    Borderlands 4 should focus on handsome jack his past and future

  • @kushalsithlu7071
    @kushalsithlu7071 2 роки тому +5

    Jack is honestly just my favourite video game villain so ima go ahead like this before i finish watching it XD

  • @Nooksby
    @Nooksby 2 роки тому +4

    This is the video i've waited for a long time. Thank you EruptionFang.

  • @noahdean9685
    @noahdean9685 2 роки тому +23

    He sounds like Brandon Rogers who plays blitz in hell of a boss I would love to see someone make fan art of handsome Jack hiring imp to kill the crimson raiders!

  • @tntblaster137
    @tntblaster137 2 роки тому +10

    Wait wait wait wait wait! I’m pretty sure Jack would have copied Felicity if they had time to do so, unfortunately time was of the essence and they couldn’t do that.
    You made it sound like Jack was heartless af doing that

    • @notavailable8201
      @notavailable8201 2 роки тому +3

      He did ask her how long would it take before his final choice

    • @tntblaster137
      @tntblaster137 2 роки тому

      @@notavailable8201 exactly, and she said a few weeks or smth, and to be fair the moon was almost destroyed by the time you save it sooooo

    • @notavailable8201
      @notavailable8201 2 роки тому +4

      @@tntblaster137 Yet Lilith claims she isn't anything like Athena Wilhem Nisha or the other hired mercs for Jack. Kinda rich of her to threaten Athena for comparing her team to Lilith's. Lilith would've done the same thing if she had to make a choice to save everyone

  • @SaucyWolfTaco
    @SaucyWolfTaco Рік тому +2

    Forgot to mention that in Borderlands 3 there’s a lergendury called “Handsome Jackhammer” and I believe I found another one that has Jack’s voice coming from it asking “Lol hey when can I get a new body?” And all that gripe 😂

  • @angelcastro3790
    @angelcastro3790 2 роки тому +2

    Hearing Angel's accidental outburst that ends up killing her mom and hearing Jack's reaction....man, that hurts....

  • @oliverimhoof
    @oliverimhoof 2 роки тому +1

    15:57 "Call me Jack, honey,"
    -30 seconds of unskippable ads appear
    16:05 "Handsome Jack."
    The mood was killed along with Tasiter.

  • @The-handsomehero777
    @The-handsomehero777 2 роки тому +6

    Honestly its all liliths fault

  • @1twin
    @1twin Рік тому +2

    Jacks voice actor really knows how to put the impulsive behaviour and weight with his words

  • @fernandorios474
    @fernandorios474 2 роки тому +8

    We love his AS a villain!!

  • @HydraKittten
    @HydraKittten 3 місяці тому +2

    I have a Theory as to why Jack had the doppelganger program so early on, while not high in the chain of command, its clear he's somewhat important, as he's overseeing helios and has direct contact with higher ups, its likely Hyperion funded the program after some convincing by Jack, likely for the unlikely event someone tries to kill the overseer of Helios

  • @Oliverph0enix
    @Oliverph0enix 2 роки тому +8

    i really feel sorry for Jack

  • @flamingdendrix1804
    @flamingdendrix1804 2 роки тому +2

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING OMG THANK YOU

  • @Mickey_Black
    @Mickey_Black 2 роки тому

    Thank you for continuing this series

  • @danithrabbit3516
    @danithrabbit3516 2 роки тому +2

    I admittedly been waiting for video about Jack since I noticed did insightful videos on Borderlands history and characters. One few I know of and invested fair share into, including that of the sort -psudeo- jack copy who has this neat animatic base of them and 'Jack'. Handsome Jack is pretty amazing character

  • @thatguy5774
    @thatguy5774 2 роки тому +4

    I find it funny how Jake was built for coding and programming then his daughter gets the sirens ability to talk and control the machines.

  • @nrgetf5011
    @nrgetf5011 2 роки тому +1

    YOOOOOOOOOO
    I remember I searched for this last week thinking you already made a video on this only to be surprised you didnt
    BUT NOW YOU DID

  • @river_the_drake5229
    @river_the_drake5229 2 роки тому +8

    Been waiting for this, keep up the good work

  • @borrowedgnat7576
    @borrowedgnat7576 2 роки тому +3

    I may have to say this, but the bandit is the actual reason why Jack became that evil bastard

  • @02091992able
    @02091992able 2 роки тому +3

    I would believe how Jack was able to have enough money to make a doppelganger of himself is that he probably was given a fortune by Hyperion for the vault. After all it was him that led the vault hunters thru Angel to the vault. But I believe it's said somewhere that he had pioneered tech for weapons revolving around Eridium. Only Jack could kill a man kidnap his woman and steal her catchphrase within a single moment.

  • @silvertemplar8061
    @silvertemplar8061 2 роки тому +7

    Oh man I thought you where done with these videos. Glad to see you are still making them. 👍

  • @adamdobry5517
    @adamdobry5517 2 роки тому +2

    His grandma used a friggin buzzsaw

  • @jacobwilson9099
    @jacobwilson9099 2 роки тому +5

    I like jack because you can hate him and still feel bad for him

  • @garterbelt4732
    @garterbelt4732 Рік тому +1

    Literally took the saying "die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" whole another level

  • @jojobrown7389
    @jojobrown7389 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you I was hoping you make one of my favorite villains

  • @ryanvarney159
    @ryanvarney159 2 роки тому

    Just in time just finished all the other history stories bless you good sir

  • @tnntaronewsnetwork4514
    @tnntaronewsnetwork4514 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for bringing us this wonderful video! Next idea suggestion: Incinerator Clayton from Borderlands 2

  • @royalsoldier6569
    @royalsoldier6569 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome video! Jack is the best!

  • @thesoviet5686
    @thesoviet5686 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly I can’t cry in video games, not even after listening to the ECHO stories, it’s hard for me to cry.

  • @dascytheman
    @dascytheman 2 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting for this

  • @GabelhelmSogarbraten
    @GabelhelmSogarbraten Рік тому +2

    The early loving relationship between jack and his daughter always breaks my heart

  • @TheGentry000
    @TheGentry000 2 роки тому +2

    i really liked how jack character progressed throughout the game on the pre sequel

  • @gregorysmith6780
    @gregorysmith6780 2 роки тому

    This is amazing keep up the good work

  • @neptune-op4dj
    @neptune-op4dj 2 роки тому +2

    He actually seemed pretty nice before the death of angels mother but of course the death of her mother broke him and became a mass murderer

  • @Monchoo237
    @Monchoo237 2 роки тому

    What a coincidence I just started playing borderlands again and you make this video!!

  • @DFD3ADP00L
    @DFD3ADP00L 2 роки тому +2

    I believe that handsome jack is one of the best villain in gaming history.

  • @Black_noir_mw3
    @Black_noir_mw3 2 роки тому +9

    I would fucking love a game where Jack comes back, cause after all, "your stories never over until it doesn't turn a profit

  • @spybgon4597
    @spybgon4597 Рік тому +10

    In my opinion, it is kind of sad seeing Handsome Jack go from a normal Stand Up Guy to insane psychopath

  • @user-bs1zg9nk3g
    @user-bs1zg9nk3g Рік тому +1

    Jack somehow gives me vibes of Joker before becoming Joker

  • @BojanglesMcduff
    @BojanglesMcduff Рік тому +1

    The more I hear about jacks story the more i feel bad about shooting him in the middle of his speech about being the hero.

  • @stacysigur972
    @stacysigur972 14 днів тому

    This was pretty cool. Thanks for explaining.

  • @OlOlOIIO
    @OlOlOIIO 2 роки тому +1

    I just noticed that in the scene where Jack kills the former president he is wearing his BL2 outfit, but at the start of the Pre-Sequel DLC cutscene (which takes place literally seconds/minutes after killing the Tassiter), Jack is back to his Pre-Sequel outfit with the addition of his mask.
    Such a fast outfit change.