ITER NOW 1.7: The Divertor Section
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- It’s been likened to the filter of a swimming pool and an oversized ash tray. It’s been called alien in shape and hellish in its affinity for heat. Others describe it lovingly as a “plasma toilet.” But whatever your analogy of choice, the ITER divertor is an impressive product of scientific, engineering, and logistic ingenuity, designed to exhaust contaminated particles from the plasma to maintain the fusion reaction inside the tokamak.
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Video: Will Beaton, ITER Organization
Music: Dean Kotaska, Sandbagger News
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More content like this video please.
Didn't know that there is a full scale mock to test the rails and movement to the final position of the divertor parts. Thanks a lot for this video. Iter needs still more public visibility.
Stay safe, stay healthy. You're the future.
It is fascinating to see how these components are manufactured in different parts of the world and come together to ITER. It feels like when people with different cultures and nationality can gather together to work for a common goal (also a very difficult subject). This project relates human from the world. I would like to see more of these!
Facinating to see how the scientist and engineering community from different cultures discuss, understand and concludes for actions day in and day out.
This is perhaps an unique example how human determination and intelligence can overcome natural barriers
Looking forward to the rest of the series!
the quality of the videos have improved a lot! i'm so happy because this changes, step by step people could understand what you are doing, here in Latin America many people didn't even know iter is a thing, gladly i'm there to tell them
Thank you for going into the specifics of the ITER machine, it is really interesting.
I love this project and even if the only thing ITER did was provide a small chance of working fusion and nothing else I would be for it.
But many people are still very sceptical so I would like to ask you if you could you cover some of the innovations that have been done over the course of the ITER project and show that while they might originally have been meant for fusion research that they also have other important applications outside of this.
I think it is important that even If people are sceptical about fusion research that it produces tangible results that cannot be denied.
Great job, love what you're doing documenting this engineering feat! Looking forward for the next videos.
I just wanted to point out that at 3:01 the animation can be misleading: the "swirl" (twisted copper tape) does not move, it is actually fixed in place, and induces turbulence as the water travels around it (source: I work on the PFUs for WEST at CEA).
You are absolutely right. The swirl is stationary, indeed. Thank you for pointing that out. Quite an amazing system.
I'm looking forward to seeing how those parts look like once they're built. And I would love to hear how ITER copes with the Corona crisis. I'm staying at home, my business is in "hibernation", and I would very much like to see how others are getting through this.
Hi Katana - please check out the latest ITER NOW episode, which premieres in about an hour right here: ua-cam.com/video/1AMnltjl_Pk/v-deo.html
We took a screenshot of your comment and included it at the end of the next episode, so we can respond to it. Merci beaucoup.
@@iterorganization I saw it. I feel important now. *blush*
Thank you UA-cam algorithm for letting me find this. You slack off a lot, but you occasionally give me gold like this.
It is so inspiring to se that we have come to a point in human history that we realize we are all in this together as one. And that moumental ground breaking advancements of this magnitude go past borders ideologies philosophies.we are becoming one human race with one common goal the betterment life for all human kind.thankyou everyone
The complexity of this project blows my mind. Thank you to all participants, you are an inspiration.
It's great to see so many women working on this project. Forward-thinking in every way!
Great video! Looking at specific components of the ITER project really makes it "real". This is the sort of UA-cam edu-entertainment that truly justifies the enormous complexity, cost, and engineering that needs to go into viable fusion prototypes. Please make more like this, and as a shout out to others like you: (more) Space-X videos, Marble Machine X Build/Design Series, are what we all need. What tools do the fabricators/suppliers use? Why'd you guys choose Tungsten? Why Copper Tubes? Why the Armor? What happens without it? What are engineering tolerances? Why are they important for that part? How are you specifying them? etc! etc! Make anyone who watches this into little-amatuer-Fusion Engineers! Keep it up!
Stay safe guys. You are the future.
It's wonderful to see humanity work together
This makes me beyond happy - paralleling the years of your child to your endeavours makes it very clear the dedication of these people - thank the deities for big-science 🍻
greatest crossover in human history
The video shows a 3D printed model of the Divertor. Are these (and other) models from the Tokamak available for download anywhere.
I too have been looking for a decent model, specifically the cutaway of the entire reactor building. There are some really low detail ones on places like thingiverse, but since I have a resin printer I was hoping for a more detailed model.
I will look into this and find out for you! I sure hope it's available.
@@iterorganization We're working on it. Our goal is to produce downloadable models - taken directly from ITER's CAD drawings, but at a resolution suitable for 3D printing. Stay tuned ...
@@iterorganization Thanks! Awesome job from you and the whole ITER Communications team. This sort and the amount of social media connection is really great.
I liked the videos about the drone pilot for example a lot, but I agree with the others, more videos close to the engineers and the people actually building it. Maybe the political aspect might be worth looking into too, the ITER as a peace project part.
Also I think you might be able to improve the Q&A section with not too much effort. Audio quality isn't too great, that would make a big difference. A bit more light might also improve image quality, but that's less important.
Thanks!
@@GlobalCitizenLLC that would be amazing.
this is a really interesting video... i love to learn more and more about iter every week
I also learned a great deal. I also know a great deal about such nuclear fusion energy projects. I know that they invest a lot in making promotional videos that fail to mention the numerous problems that they are dealing with. Each of the workers are highly focused upon their fun part of the project without knowing about the many hidden features that are so esoteric that very few people are aware of how they are being fleeced.
Very interesting thank you!!
Nice video! I love the mockups and the simulators. Being able to visualize always helps.
to all from iter site: pls stay healthy and dont get infected
There is hope for humanity.
Thank you for bilding it .
BEST VIDÉO OF THE PROJECT! Congrats to the engineers for the team work and congratulations for the communication team for this well made and very technical video. Thanks a lot for sharing.
Will, just remember, you are in France and some people would like to enjoy a French version!
Well, there are French subtitles at least, I think it's best to have en English-spoken video to reach more people worldwide.
Link to the tokamak divertor theme music from this episode:
soundcloud.com/dean-kotaska/iter-now-tokamak-diverter-theme
Thank you Dean! This video would make no sense without your music supporting it :)
I imagine just walking around there and looking at stuff. That would be fulfilling for a whole lifetime.
Great team. Excellent engineering and work!
ITER is building the future.
Amazing video! You guys live the dream!!
The heat in those "waste" particles should be usable.
Wish you would give even deeper technical detail. When someone says "oh it's hard because the tolerances are tight" I wish you would state what the tolerances actually are.
Hope I was a part of your team for my life team. But that has always been my dream for 4.5 years and for the rest of the life to be a part of a revolution in power sector.
Inside the heat-exchanger does the super-heated coolant get converted into energy before being re-condensed into liquid coolant and recycled?
Thank you.
Any thoughts from the divertor team about liquid surfaces for fusion plasma facing components?
I have absolutely no idea what it is or what your talking about, but looks exciting and all the best.
언젠가 여기서 일할테다!
Is that 3D model available for 3D printing that you where holding? Id be interested to 3D print the entire thing
2028 is tomorrow...
Gut das ist die schöne anpassbare Formgebung, Gut man hat "einen perfekten Sicherheits - Schalter" sehr gut gebaut ! aber die Spule darunter und die Schenkel des Supraleiters machen die teils nur statisch rigide Steuerung der Feldstärken nur wie eine Diode möglich. Aber keine zweite im Gegenbetrieb für den Umlauf als regelbarer Kollektor. Und die dynamische Impulsgebung fehlt leider noch wie bei einem regelbaren Transistor- ,einem Schritt- Motor - oder einer im Umlaufprinzip dynamisch proportional regelbarem und dort ganz umsetzbaren Zentrifugal - Maschine ! Der angekoppelte Kreuzfeldgenerator der wohl noch geplant ist, fehlt derzeit noch.Eine Vervollständigung (der gedachte Dynamoring) fehlt. Es fehlt auch der maximal angekopplbare Basis-Emitter _ >Impuls-Ansteuerungsteil. Es fehlt wohl noch noch was Entscheidendes. Eine einzelner perfekter Diodenschalter ist auch noch kein runder Dimmer. Man muß erst noch den fehlenden den Dynamoring außen herum noch aufsetzen und schnell ankoppelbar schalten.
Warum nimmt man nicht erst mal "das elementare naheliegend Fehlende", den seit 100 Jahren "effizient erprobten überschaubaren Dynamoring", dazu "Drehstromauflagerung ähnlich robust wie die Divertersteuerung" aus "Asdex upgrade bereits teils gezeigt", mit einzelnen superschnellen dazu als Gegengewicht bis hin proportional anwendbaren Feldstärkekupplungen (mit Hilfe kleinerer Supraleiter- Feldstärkekupplungsbauteilen) im Kreis herum zu den Segmenten angeordnet dann 1/1000 /sec für Feldstärkeankopplungen dynamisch schaltbar, für eine perfekte Umlaufdynamik. Den normalen Dynamoring (fehlend) steckt man letztlich dann auch nur außen drauf und montiert die Feldstärke Kupplungen, (samt Drehstromkonverterlagerung) damit es auch mit vollem Saft, rund und lastmäßig richtig getaktet läuft und voll abgeht. Man kann dann überschüssigen Strom präzise entziehen und dann auch das Grundinduktionspotential segmentartig wieder dynamisch sehr schnell aufbauen.
w=sigma * fluß oder Wirkung(w) = Wirkquerschnitt (Sigma) * Fluß (Teilchen)
Allerdings ist jede Wirkung irgendwie spezifisch.
Erst läd man die Teilchen auf. Warum bringt man sie nicht in Schwung und komprimiert sie dann auch mal ?
Daß sie synchron werden und fusionieren. Dann geben sie die asynchrone Energie ab, die aber seitlich kanalisierbar ist bei Elektronen. Das Ergebnis ist die synchrone Kern - Bindung in der Mitte.
Die Compton - Barrierie alleine gibt nur bei Molekülbindungen etwas wieder , das ist wieder was anderes als der vieleicht hierzu erwünschte Plasmafluß. Die dann zusammengeführten viel kleineren Teilchen sind vorher viel freier beweglich, als die molekulare Compton - Sonne die hier wh. gar nicht so stark beugt.Allerdings braucht man Feldstärken für Interferenz , wie Kernresonanz auch noch. Dagegen die Coulomb - Barriere ist in einem neg Ladungs - Medium gar nicht so hoch. Man braucht eher noch pos geladene Kondensationspunkte. Hier verteilen sich die Positronen in Materie und ziehen diese eher im Kern kapazitiv ermangelnd dann "auf engeren elementaren Positronenbahnen" d o r t als Kondensationspunkte , zusammen. = Eigenschaften der Positronen dort.
I really, really hope it'll function once completed. It's an extremely risky and expensive bet and I hope it pays off.
No semblance to an ashtray!
Going to the next energy revolution
What do you do with the heat of W181 and W185 which will be created?
minute 12:02
Monday, 24 February
;)
still using a tokomak?
17:17 "Look out! Behind you!"
9:12 Does anyone know what function that smooth hemispherical dome at the inner side of the cassette fulfills?
Probably used for alignment as part of a kinematic mount.
When these young people are middle aged they might see some near fusion plasma produced in this test machine.
What is producing the plasma stream?
i proper dont get it ! if it works , producing that much power surly it will simply melt any cables they try to conect up to it , ??
please someone explain how are they going to make usable power from it ? , the only tokomat i have ever heard of only runs for a few seconds ??
The Apollo space program of nuclear energy production.
who is the communications guy? i like his style!
YES!! Get some Russian engineers on this. They're always crazy smart.
It's surprising that such clever people have such bad and incomprehensible accents -- I am grateful for the subtitles.
Well, if their personal focus was on linguistics they probably wouldn't be working on the cutting edge of engineering...I mean, duh.
"'Once the cassette assemblies are fitted with plasma-facting components and sensors, they must then be inserted into the tokamak with robotic handling tools."
Can't they just bang it in with a big mallet?
I get anxiety just thinking of the scale of this project.
Tesla teck has been 'round 100+ years... This is cool but maybe try being honest about the 6000+ sequestered Tesla patents and give free energy to the world. Don't pretend you don't know.
Beautiful Work and Engineering btw
2030: Someone makes working Tokamak from Lego Technic
I believe the diverter is one of the major components if not the most critical component of the TOKAMAK, so ash tray, toilet, no way! You try to hide the importance of that part of the system by joking, maybe because yourselves you aren't enough confident! Wait and see!
And this makes electricity?
14:18 are they trying to pose in the shape of the divertor?
Indeed! And you'll notice certain people are in the exact spot of the sub-component they work on -- Victor in the middle as the dome, Alain on the left as the IVT.
Kapan ya Indonesia punya fusi energi?
Did it works ? Did it generate some comercial electric power ? Or is just another expensive toy for big boys ?
The sensors were tested under 1 GigaGray?? That's a lot, right?! My only context for this is radiation that humans are subjected to...
Stop doing iter! Iter will convert Earth into a star!
hojala funcione para bien y que no hemos sido enganado una cosa asi llega esplotar sera la perdicion de la mita del planeta
Amazing! If you need someone to sweep the floor I’ll do it free
I thought ITER time plan will ends in 2020 😔😔
ITER's first plasma will be in 2025 - the divertor doesn't have to be installed until closer to "burning plasma" which is planned to occur in 2035.
Everybody research Thorium Energy. You will not be disappointed.
Wheres all that tungsten really coming from? China? If so, this thing will be Chinese owned right?
A 30 year project sure is an extraordinary long time. Is this how fast things move in the EU utopia? Someone had to say it!
No idea what your point is...If you could do it faster, maybe you should have told them 30 years ago
Yeah, but actually, no.
Getting fusion to a feasible Q value is hard, all the technology and the skills are relatively new. Scientific achievement is never a snap of the fingers, it can take generations and multiple failures that we learn from. The goal is worth it, and each successive attempt is more likely to succeed than the previous.
12:16 She likes what? 😂
I am laughing about since centuries this interesting thought once upon a time.
I think it will get an very blame like so much of atomic technological items.
Go ahead, everyone will see what you have done.
A new image every 1 or 2 seconds sometimes less its too quick to process things and understand please slow down animations by 3 or 4 times please but fascinating other wise
Try to not become evil like the folks at CERN.
Massive waste of money and manpower.
When your fusion reactor design costs many billions of dollars, you know it's wrong. It is utterly useless to humanity, to have such expensive fusion reactors. That only reinforces the stupid paradigm of centralised production and distribution of electricity, which is undemocratic, ridiculously inefficient, and counter to what humanity actually needs.
If you can't make a fusion reactor the size of a shipping container, make it spew out 5MW for less than 5 million dollars, then your reactor design is bad.
Personally, I hope that no steady-state reactor design ever produces a single watt of electricity for the grid, because it will be the most expensive energy ever created. The future of fusion is pulsed devices, not steady-state ones.
Yes, well, it's better than nothing, I guess. Unless you have a better design?
The concept is flawed. Started at $15B, then $30B and it keeps going up with no results. There new better fusion solutions that twist the energy stream as to stop electrons from smashing into the walls ( allowing the reaction to continue longer based on energy and stability) or there is the B11 concepts (two, one with laser technology and DPL) of which are more plausible to succeed. So why pour $B into ITER? I say slow it down, no more funding until they show progress and divert future funding to the more promising Fusion technologies.
A classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Because the European bank can print money as much as they can.. specially in this times 🤑 so why not? After all it's all about money😁
Nice video, but next time in english please :)
Subtitles are available, edgelord.
if you need to "optimize" then your original design is not doing what it should
😂 sure... tell me more, armchair engineer!
@@risfutile einstein, tesla and edison were armchair engineers
Yaaaa, because their original design was done before and there is plenty of people that know better than these fine men and women.....?