JoeyPete me too! Im angry they discontinued these, i dont understand why? They have only been out since 2013!? Why would they spend all that money developing a machine and only make it for 3 years? (I think they discontinued it end of 2016) makes no sense, all they make now are the noisy belt driven machines, 5.0 cubic feet is the biggest with 800rpm spin......when other companies like lg and maytag have 5.7 and 6.2, 1000 rpms too, is GE not even trying to compete anymore?
Hard to say really...They may come out with another version. This one uses the F&P motor system and since GE and F&P are owned by Haier, we may see this again!
I bet much has to do with the Fed 2018 water mandates for both laundry and dish washers. This looks like an excellent machine but with no additional water add feature it is out of contention for me. I will be purchasing a new washer dryer set in November or December thus far only Speed Queen seems to fit the bill for me. Maybe a Electrolux front loader but I don't see add water feature for that one either. To me the best demo would be to see a wash load of some really filthy stained clothes being cleaned with one of these HE low water machines. Any machine can take out perspiration and odors. Most old school machines clean fine if they have a water level adjustment feature like Speed Queen. Again to me much has to do with proper loading, water level and agitation for the detergent to do its job Kirk how about a medium or light load of filthy clothes cleaned in a new GE, Electrolux, and Maytag HE front loaders then top loaders? Utilizing only on its default wash cycle settings that are appropriate to the load and soil? Best to try to stay within the of equivalent price and features. If you want to do the import machines that would be great for those who are interested in those as well. You wouldn't need to video all cycles you have shown us that. Just show the clothes being dirty prior going in the machine, the wash cycle, ending with the final spin. Taking out the clothes to see how well they cleaned. I would use whites with food and grime stains such as beet juice balsamic vinegar, , dirt soil some salad oil, and some jeans with some dirt and grass stains. Or just compile some large swatches of the similar fabrics and do a light load to speed up the test.
Kirk you have covered just about ever question about your products I can see other than the "Soiled Wash Test". I have learned a lot about washing machines such as features, cycles, times, loads, water cycle fills and how the machines handle over loading. Now the big one, how do they really clean? I bet with with proper loading many of these machines will do an awesome job. It would come down to style, budget, and warranty and service history as selling points if they all do the washing job well. I really think when people say, "my clothes don't come out clean" 90% is user error on not using the machine correctly based on soil, and load and how the machine best performs.
@ Kirk Rivas , Well you didn't really answer my ponderance of thought. But yeah, Seems like it would provide better cleaning and lint removal because of filtering
I didn't see any turnover one during the entire wash cycle. The yellow shirt never disappeared under the other clothing and the blue shirt never fully submerged, rolled over or for that matter change its form. It needs to use just a bit more water. It's very good at its spin cycle particularly at ramp up and in balancing.
All manufactures need to add an "additional water add" feature. More water would assist with the agitation and move the clothes through the drum far better.
@Bruce Solomon . I see plenty of turnover. Watch it on 2x speed. These types of washers don't wash small loads well. He doesn't have enough clothes in there. Really weird how a guy who sells or repairs washers never loads them correctly. Kirk is like that
Turn over isn’t really needed with infuser washers. The waterfall continually basted the garments in soap water. That takes the place of traditional roll over in old fashioned agitator washers.
LOVE this machine. How an HE Washer should work! The recirculating water makes a world of difference. I hope GE redoes this model.
JoeyPete me too! Im angry they discontinued these, i dont understand why? They have only been out since 2013!? Why would they spend all that money developing a machine and only make it for 3 years? (I think they discontinued it end of 2016) makes no sense, all they make now are the noisy belt driven machines, 5.0 cubic feet is the biggest with 800rpm spin......when other companies like lg and maytag have 5.7 and 6.2, 1000 rpms too, is GE not even trying to compete anymore?
Hard to say really...They may come out with another version. This one uses the F&P motor system and since GE and F&P are owned by Haier, we may see this again!
haha, true. ;-)
I bet much has to do with the Fed 2018 water mandates for both laundry and dish washers. This looks like an excellent machine but with no additional water add feature it is out of contention for me. I will be purchasing a new washer dryer set in November or December thus far only Speed Queen seems to fit the bill for me. Maybe a Electrolux front loader but I don't see add water feature for that one either. To me the best demo would be to see a wash load of some really filthy stained clothes being cleaned with one of these HE low water machines. Any machine can take out perspiration and odors. Most old school machines clean fine if they have a water level adjustment feature like Speed Queen. Again to me much has to do with proper loading, water level and agitation for the detergent to do its job
Kirk how about a medium or light load of filthy clothes cleaned in a new GE, Electrolux, and Maytag HE front loaders then top loaders? Utilizing only on its default wash cycle settings that are appropriate to the load and soil? Best to try to stay within the of equivalent price and features. If you want to do the import machines that would be great for those who are interested in those as well. You wouldn't need to video all cycles you have shown us that. Just show the clothes being dirty prior going in the machine, the wash cycle, ending with the final spin. Taking out the clothes to see how well they cleaned. I would use whites with food and grime stains such as beet juice balsamic vinegar, , dirt soil some salad oil, and some jeans with some dirt and grass stains. Or just compile some large swatches of the similar fabrics and do a light load to speed up the test.
Kirk you have covered just about ever question about your products I can see other than the "Soiled Wash Test". I have learned a lot about washing machines such as features, cycles, times, loads, water cycle fills and how the machines handle over loading. Now the big one, how do they really clean? I bet with with proper loading many of these machines will do an awesome job. It would come down to style, budget, and warranty and service history as selling points if they all do the washing job well. I really think when people say, "my clothes don't come out clean" 90% is user error on not using the machine correctly based on soil, and load and how the machine best performs.
The spin is blazingly fast during final spin 1000 to 1050 RPM!
Thanks! I'd like to see a load of darks on this setting.
I'd also like to see it with laundry detergent and fabric softener.
I'm wondering why They all don't recirculate the water like that
Nice video
Thank you, the more water that moves through the clothes the better.
@ Kirk Rivas , Well you didn't really answer my ponderance of thought. But yeah, Seems like it would provide better cleaning and lint removal because of filtering
I didn't see any turnover one during the entire wash cycle. The yellow shirt never disappeared under the other clothing and the blue shirt never fully submerged, rolled over or for that matter change its form. It needs to use just a bit more water. It's very good at its spin cycle particularly at ramp up and in balancing.
All manufactures need to add an "additional water add" feature. More water would assist with the agitation and move the clothes through the drum far better.
Ah Norge! Lets bring back the Norge!
@Bruce Solomon . I see plenty of turnover. Watch it on 2x speed. These types of washers don't wash small loads well. He doesn't have enough clothes in there. Really weird how a guy who sells or repairs washers never loads them correctly. Kirk is like that
You don’t need turn over in these washers, that’s what the waterfall is there to replicate turn over.
@@bettermost the waterfall is just recycling the wash water correct?
One thing that I have learned is there doesn't seem to be any issues with spin cycles drying out clothes with these modern HE machines. LOL
Turn over isn’t really needed with infuser washers. The waterfall continually basted the garments in soap water. That takes the place of traditional roll over in old fashioned agitator washers.
I feel sleepy for long final spin 😴
Do these machine pause during the wash cycle for soaking the clothes or to reduce KWh numbers to get an Energy Star rating ?
The same speed as seen from Fisher and Paykel.
Does this have a f&p motor in it because there both owned by haier
What's the default spin speed for this cycle?
I think it defaults to High, not max.
@@kirkrivas8172 1100rpm
400rpm speed of the rinse spins.
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