Well, my opinions only based on the experience of both of the Grinder I had.. you might be lucky to get a better experience or aligned grinder out of factory and hence please only take my experience as reference only..Honne does have some improvements on Versalab. Like in terms of retention(my Versalab ocationally drop grounds after grinding) , adjustment dials, portafilter fork design, no need to lock dial after adjustment, espresso range(this might because from the burrs of itamil from Honne and ssp on Versalab). Versalab does a better job in appearance(to my taste), materials using. other than above, you might want to consider if you like an Lamborghini or a Lamborghini replica? If you get lucky like me, a second hand Versalab with lower price might be a good option, at least for me..personally I enjoy the process of taking extra hours and days on aligning and cleaning a second hand grinder. Hope this help.
Do you really need to WDT? I have the Titus version of the Versalab by Frank Durra. No RDT, no WDT, I just tap and tamp. I removed the portafilter after grinding and turn on the grinder and a few clumps drop from the wiper. I will try tapping the portafilter holder as you did. I have also been trying it with pour over and it works great.
Emmmm… I can’t really see how your shot looks like without RDT. I did RDT only because I want water preinfused evenly at the beginning, you see espresso show up at the centre and edge of basket at the same time . If you see your shot not start from the centre, then you should be okey without RDT. Titus should be much improved from Versalab. 😊
@@Jun-qd6oz With a VST basket (14 grams) it flows from the center. I get multiple flow with a Weber Unifilter for 20 grams. I use a puck screen and paper for both.
Honne has a better portafilter forks, less retention, and belt cover etc. The rest all pretty much the same. But strangely I prefer Versalab for the look and history.
I’m sure the seven makes superb espresso but it just sounds so cheap. The sound of the pump reminds me of an espresso machine and why I’ll never buy one.
Where did you get the cover for the bean shoot? Love that idea. I’ve been using my fingers to keep the beans from flying out
This is my next grinder but Titus version with red speed coating applications.
I wonder how the Versalab M4 can be compared with the Honne based on your experience.
The Honne seems almost very identical to the M4.
Well, my opinions only based on the experience of both of the Grinder I had.. you might be lucky to get a better experience or aligned grinder out of factory and hence please only take my experience as reference only..Honne does have some improvements on Versalab. Like in terms of retention(my Versalab ocationally drop grounds after grinding) , adjustment dials, portafilter fork design, no need to lock dial after adjustment, espresso range(this might because from the burrs of itamil from Honne and ssp on Versalab). Versalab does a better job in appearance(to my taste), materials using. other than above, you might want to consider if you like an Lamborghini or a Lamborghini replica? If you get lucky like me, a second hand Versalab with lower price might be a good option, at least for me..personally I enjoy the process of taking extra hours and days on aligning and cleaning a second hand grinder. Hope this help.
That machine sounds like an old 2 stroke moped trying to cold start 😅
Do you really need to WDT? I have the Titus version of the Versalab by Frank Durra. No RDT, no WDT, I just tap and tamp. I removed the portafilter after grinding and turn on the grinder and a few clumps drop from the wiper. I will try tapping the portafilter holder as you did. I have also been trying it with pour over and it works great.
Emmmm… I can’t really see how your shot looks like without RDT. I did RDT only because I want water preinfused evenly at the beginning, you see espresso show up at the centre and edge of basket at the same time . If you see your shot not start from the centre, then you should be okey without RDT. Titus should be much improved from Versalab. 😊
@@Jun-qd6oz With a VST basket (14 grams) it flows from the center. I get multiple flow with a Weber Unifilter for 20 grams. I use a puck screen and paper for both.
@@RTOBarista Ohh.. Surprisingly see the difference from different baskets. Then you should be fine without RDT then. Nice grinder!
Are your markings on the Versalab a sticker from the P100?
Yes😂
@@Jun-qd6oz LOL! Love it. Good fit?
Better then the Honne?
Honne has a better portafilter forks, less retention, and belt cover etc. The rest all pretty much the same.
But strangely I prefer Versalab for the look and history.
Thank you!
I’m sure the seven makes superb espresso but it just sounds so cheap. The sound of the pump reminds me of an espresso machine and why I’ll never buy one.