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@@Jun-qd6oz LOL! Love it. Good fit?

Yep

I used to done a pretty good manual WDT with BH Comb tool. The Moonraker no doubt will be more consistant, but more for me is an improvement towards puck prep experience and life quality.

A bit of channeling there, try tamping softer.

I keep hearing that tamping in binary i.e. hard enough or not hard enough - is this not correct?@@i_Lndr

It’s not a good shot. Try grind it coarser.

mess shot

Well, my opinions only based on the experience of both of the Grinder I had.. you might be lucky to get a better experience or aligned grinder out of factory and hence please only take my experience as reference only..Honne does have some improvements on Versalab. Like in terms of retention(my Versalab ocationally drop grounds after grinding) , adjustment dials, portafilter fork design, no need to lock dial after adjustment, espresso range(this might because from the burrs of itamil from Honne and ssp on Versalab). Versalab does a better job in appearance(to my taste), materials using. other than above, you might want to consider if you like an Lamborghini or a Lamborghini replica? If you get lucky like me, a second hand Versalab with lower price might be a good option, at least for me..personally I enjoy the process of taking extra hours and days on aligning and cleaning a second hand grinder. Hope this help.

Emmmm… I can’t really see how your shot looks like without RDT. I did RDT only because I want water preinfused evenly at the beginning, you see espresso show up at the centre and edge of basket at the same time . If you see your shot not start from the centre, then you should be okey without RDT. Titus should be much improved from Versalab. 😊

@@Jun-qd6oz With a VST basket (14 grams) it flows from the center. I get multiple flow with a Weber Unifilter for 20 grams. I use a puck screen and paper for both.

@@RTOBarista Ohh.. Surprisingly see the difference from different baskets. Then you should be fine without RDT then. Nice grinder!

Honne has a better portafilter forks, less retention, and belt cover etc. The rest all pretty much the same. But strangely I prefer Versalab for the look and history.

⁠Thank you!

Good point. It will be 99.9% espresso as I have a p100 as well. But I will give a try later!

I swapped to use paper filter with syphon as well, which makes the cleaning easier!

Look. p100 is definitely more advanced than p64 in both engineering and taste in cup. However, p100 is 50% more expensive than p64 but it does not exceed 50% more tasty than p64 (probably 5 - 10%) . P64 will be cheaper for burrs if you want to try something new.

@Jun thank you for youre response, I am trying to justify the price difference and probably will buy the p100 as I will always have that "what if" with the p64

@@navidqowsi5618 Yes! Smart decision. p100 is significantly cheaper than its 98mm rivals, consider Monolith max, eg-1(80mm), Titus nautilus etc.

P100 is really good grinder and I hope I can spend 10 years at least at it. Static problem haven't change much yet... after few kg in already. Good luck on your purchasing.

@@Jun-qd6oz thanks, are you able to pull traditional shots with the P100.

@@i_Lndr absolutely, even some light roast with pre-infusion.

Good eyes! The box should be from local retailer AB, not from lagom.

Yes, but don't get me wrong Hedone/DRM burr set is good. I will probably end up with a Titus DRM burr in the end but allow me some time to save $ haha.

Lol, im the same, saving for a titus DRM too complement my londinium.

@@i_Lndr Considering titus is designing a roller mill, it will be a harder decision to make tho. Anyway, save $ first.

Thank you for the question. This reminds someone ask me when I am young "do you prefer your mom or dad?". lol. Quick answer is, I like them both and I use them both for different usages. I like espresso from Honne, and filter coffee from hyper-aligned ssp lab sweet lagom is unparalleled for the balance of clarity and body.

Sounds like a nice set up you had! I do have a original 3d attachment funnel from Honne. But their attachment is kind of over bulky and I enjoy to be able to see how the coffee getting grind or see through the burr. I ard installed another popcorn anti-stopper in Honne as you see in video, it is black 3d printed, much smaller, lighter, but barely can see it from video as it is black. It works extremely well to stop popcorns.

Did you get a chance to commpare hedone honne to Monolith suriken burrs and Niche?