Epidemiologist: Did Covid Really Start in China?

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @davidmessenger5277
    @davidmessenger5277 Рік тому +6

    I had the symptoms of COVID in the February before it was ever in the news.

  • @JohnnysCafe_
    @JohnnysCafe_ Рік тому +25

    If only you could convince the general public to read peer reviewed information and stop believing what comes out of the television, but sadly most people get home, plonk themselves down in front of the TV and soak it all in. If there had been a book printed long ago with accurate predictions of today's unified media control, it would have been a frightening read, yet here we are living it 😳

  • @Justy88HK
    @Justy88HK Рік тому +17

    👍👍👍 Very objective and makes perfect sense. These are what our world needs nowadays.

  • @kaiki8490
    @kaiki8490 2 роки тому +37

    A disturbing fact.
    America has the worse flu season in 40years in winter 2018.
    Doctor David Foster of Cambridge initially pointed out that
    America and Australia has the ancestorial strain of the virus(Strain A).
    China has the mutated strain( Strain B)

  • @Gopherminator
    @Gopherminator Рік тому +3

    It was already in Los Angeles in December 2019.

  • @edwardlaw797
    @edwardlaw797 Рік тому +3

    Check out the World Military Game just weeks before and next to the wet market! WORLD military game!

  • @teckchuonting4582
    @teckchuonting4582 Рік тому +6

    Excellent explanation. Forwarding to friends

  • @ricotheman8139
    @ricotheman8139 Рік тому +3

    Fort Dietrich

  • @MrDavidc
    @MrDavidc Рік тому +1

    What about the other theory that the virus may have started in Fort Detrick, USA, which was closed down in 2019, after people had an outbreak of respiratory problems? Although the correlation explanation makes sense, is there anything in a theory, that the virus started somewhere in USA, as that country was the worst affected, with over 106 million cases-and China had the least, with arounfd half a million cases.

  • @yuehchen7308
    @yuehchen7308 Рік тому +2

    smart and logic young man.!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @mimiwinarto9164
    @mimiwinarto9164 Рік тому +6

    Is it possible for you to make videos regularly? Too long to wait for your new one.

  • @ricardoluitam
    @ricardoluitam Рік тому +11

    Amazing video. Keep up the good work. Support

  • @dryeoh2023
    @dryeoh2023 2 роки тому +6

    Luke, great information and greetings from Malaysia.

  • @chengsweelim2765
    @chengsweelim2765 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for sharing the truth 💕

  • @clanwilliam4531
    @clanwilliam4531 Рік тому +2

    👍👍👍thx

  • @Brother1961
    @Brother1961 Рік тому +3

    Very true, buddy, your assumption is indeed makes sense.

  • @donniez7103
    @donniez7103 Рік тому +6

    very true!

  • @ridwanwase7444
    @ridwanwase7444 2 роки тому +6

    Hey,i really like your 2 measure theory videos l.could you continue it covering lebesgue measure integration,probability space etc

    • @LokeKS
      @LokeKS Рік тому

      Where are those videos?

  • @leedean1696
    @leedean1696 Рік тому +4

    Let the force be with you Luke

  • @syphon000
    @syphon000 Рік тому +2

    Lol convince ppl to read these days when they just get the "real news" from social media...great stuff lad..glad to see another Western learning about the true china

  • @margarettang2201
    @margarettang2201 Рік тому +3

    Love your channel! Will follow you!👍👍👍

  • @xiangbowang3702
    @xiangbowang3702 2 роки тому +3

    Hi, brother, I hope you are doing well. Waiting for your new video. Sitting and waiting :)

  • @stanbimi
    @stanbimi 2 роки тому +3

    There should be a global scientific study of cases where people were losing their sense of taste and smell, with timeline starting several years before 2020 to present days. Examine the cluster pattern, likely transmission journey, related health symptoms, etc. That would contribute to understanding of the corona virus.

  • @petercua6158
    @petercua6158 Рік тому +4

    👍Great explanation 👍

  • @MsOpineminded
    @MsOpineminded Рік тому

    I mean just from a logical stand point, East China is heavily populated and super dense not least Wuhan.
    If this virus circulated earlier as some prefer to suggest it would have spread through the rest of China like wildfire and caused a lot more deaths.
    There would be a co-related impact to China's economic/industrial output.
    The fact that it did not and China was able to keep deaths WAAAAAY lower than say I dunno the US and the fact that China's economy continued to function would suggest logically that they detected the virus as they said they did in December.
    Most of these commentators in the media simply do not make any sense.
    Discovery of virus does not mean origin.
    We have seen this so many times from Spanish flu (which originated in the US) to AIDS (Remember patient zero was from the US but origin was later traced to Africa)

  • @tsrenis
    @tsrenis Рік тому

    For all that you said about correlation not being causation, your attribution of pre-pandemic phantosmia to a possible proof that COVID-19 didn't develop in china is a really bad take, even as an aside.
    Phantosmia itself isn't yet properly understood, and there'd need to be far more similarities in terms of symptoms in order for that conclusion to even be acknowledgeable.

  • @justinhan286
    @justinhan286 Рік тому +3

    I trust scientist's analysis.

  • @danielyates9055
    @danielyates9055 Рік тому

    How can you say certainly no causation, isn't speaking with certainty bias in the opposite direction of western media?

  • @richardcmk1284
    @richardcmk1284 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic 👍

  • @spidermann1256
    @spidermann1256 Рік тому +1

    I'm a bit late to this discussion here, which has given me a chance to read preceding comments, like those of Mssrs. befelme & Cam T. However, these challenges to Luke's CV misses the point that he is making re: symptons of sufferers elsewhere in the world exhibiting covid symptons, which also exhibit variants preceding that found in Wuhan.
    The big question for me, in a way rhetorical, is why weren't these people tested, or in the case of unfortunate fatalities, their bodies exhumed to extract samples. Answering myself, because there was no credible test available before Wuhan devised methods that IDed this virus. So, nit picking Luke's credentials is neither here nor there & so is the argument about the probability (odds) that the virus first broke out via the Wuhan lab.
    Referring to Jeffery Sach's (Chair of Lancet investigation) comments over WHO & Peter Danzack & the collusion between them, I did not see any reference to preceding outbreaks elsewhere, which strikes me as the dog that did not bark, in Sherlock Holmes speak. It is possible that the Lancet did look into the other outbreaks, & if so, I haven't seen any reference to this & that these outbreaks were dismissed on scientific grounds.
    Methinks this is more pertinent than questionning Luke's credentials.

  • @LW78321
    @LW78321 Рік тому

    Thanks for the explanation 👍 it makes sense

  • @wll6777
    @wll6777 Рік тому +2

    Beautifully explained 😊

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 Рік тому

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    • @qake2021
      @qake2021 Рік тому

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  • @jenme4796
    @jenme4796 Рік тому +1

    Your apartment looks nice.

  • @martincanwang6092
    @martincanwang6092 Рік тому

    👍

  • @teatree6228
    @teatree6228 Рік тому

    I had covid in 2018 in australia

    • @teatree6228
      @teatree6228 Рік тому +1

      Coughed for 6 months, non stop, then it went but i became very unfit, short of breath walking and dizzy when i move up from lying down
      Then in 2020, i had the covid vaccine, and these symptoms resolved

  • @lealyan
    @lealyan Рік тому +5

    fort dettrick?

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Рік тому

      No idea, don't think there's any evidence to suggest exactly where it came from

    • @lealyan
      @lealyan Рік тому +2

      @@livinlavidaluke i'd been to to the vatican before the virus hit and i'd followed the news, as to where it could have started etc. looking at the timeline it's not hard to figure out..etc.

    • @brainwashington1332
      @brainwashington1332 Рік тому

      ​@@livinlavidaluke what do you think of this CDC study "Serologic Testing of US Blood Donations to Identify Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)-Reactive Antibodies: December 2019-January 2020"?
      While you are at it, check out this Nature Magazine article published in 2015 "Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research". The species of bat concerned is the same one where COVID came from.

  • @befeleme
    @befeleme Рік тому +3

    OK, so we have a virology institute specializing in coronavirus research, employing genetic modification tools to "add function". Then, a deadly strain of coronavirus appears en masse, of all the possible locations of the world, right next to the institute. Now, please, Mr Statistician, are you able to calculate the respective probabilities of this happening, if: 1/ the virus did not come from this lab; 2/ it did. I do look forward to your estimates with considerable interest.

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Рік тому +1

      Its perfectly OK if you don’t understand what i said in the video, just don’t comment about it😂

    • @befeleme
      @befeleme Рік тому +2

      @@livinlavidaluke Oh I do understand perfectly well, trust me. It is not "perfectly OK" if you try to put me down in order to avoid a considerate, logical and factual response. I know you can't. And you should know that statistics is not only about correlation and causation, but also about probability. If you don't know this, perhaps you should go back to school rather than make a flawed argument and then unable to defend it - and resort to a personal offence instead.

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Рік тому +1

      No because i explained exactly this in the video and you ignored it - you are suggesting there is a high probability based on this “causation” which is totally wrong. You cannot assign any good estimate of a probability based on the information we have! There is no prior data and so we cannot assign any posterior probability. Probability isn’t about plucking a number from thin air.

    • @befeleme
      @befeleme Рік тому

      @@livinlavidaluke No, I am happy to delete any reference to causation from this debate. Let's stay with probabilities. Please explain to me why you believe that the probabilities of the above alternatives 1/ and 2/ are the same (as you apparently do?). You can be scientific in your explanation. I, too, have studied statistics, advanced mathematics and logic.

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Рік тому +1

      ​@@befeleme I'm sorry, but we don't have the data to assign a probability, I do not know if P(A)=P(B) = 1/2, it might be, it might not, but we don't have the data or independence assumption known, so it's completely meaningless to apply probability in a Frequentist or Bayesian setting here.

  • @weilihe6518
    @weilihe6518 Рік тому +3

    That's a very easy to understand metaphor, thx.

  • @yusufrahman4
    @yusufrahman4 2 роки тому +2

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  • @camtro033
    @camtro033 2 роки тому +1

    "I'm a PhD student in statistics and before that I was an epidemiologist"
    In a video from 6 months ago:
    "I have no background in biology or medicine"
    Pick your background man, which one is it?

    • @charleneji6759
      @charleneji6759 2 роки тому +2

      I think his background is stats/math, but his work before pursuing a PhD degree was related to epidemiology. You know statisticians can work in different fields.

    • @camtro033
      @camtro033 2 роки тому

      @@charleneji6759 he literally said he had no background in medicine or biology. Epidemiology quite literally combines biology, clinical medicine, sociology, mathematics and ecology.

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  2 роки тому +14

      Yes i have no education in medicine or biology….and my title was an epidemiologist for a CRO company where i designed studies based on Statistical theory and then applied models for medical treatments👍👍

    • @pawoon
      @pawoon Рік тому +2

      epidemiologist
      An investigator who studies the occurrence of disease or other health-related conditions, states, or events in specified populations; one who practices epidemiology; the control of disease usually is also considered a task of the epidemiologist.

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace Рік тому +4

      @@pawoon Statistics is so highly specialized that you have application specializations in different fields. While I specialize in market research statistics, my colleagues may focus on biology, supply chains, population etc. I guess he works as part of the interdisciplinary team in epidemiology.