I'm from Chicago. We don't have three offensive coordinators, two head coaches in the last 3 years of Justin fields career I understand the idolization of players but as an organization when you see the talent but the lack of organization that always gets overlooked and we put it on the player That's bad business And I'll f*** with the panel but they always do that to Justin And I've been living in Chicago since 1994 Also Justin's not even a running quarterback in college he threw from the pocket majority time In Chicago Bear fan no, we ain't never really been a good organization team
How is the jury still out on Trevor Lawrence but not on Justin Fields? They’re in the same draft & the Jags has given him a ton of more talent to play with over who Justin Fields has played with. Chicago Bears is the reason they have 10 wins in 3 seasons, not only on Justin Fields.
@@maskedman5657 idk know 1 quarterback who has ever been successful with an o-line & one than more offensive weapon. His line is horrible rather it’s a run blocking or pass blocking. The coach system was trash. Idk, I just think it’s just hard to determine how good or bad Fields is. Chicago hasn’t produced a good QB in ages.
The BEARS problem isn't JUSTIN FIELDS!! The Bears problem is the BEARS ORGANIZATION not JUSTIN FIELDS. Poles is trying to get away from the old Bears way of doing nothing but give you lip service
I think its funny that everyone just blames Fields like the Bears are a great team and a great franchise. Lol yhey never bring up how much of a mess that franchise has been since Fields took over and how many coaches hes had. But it is ehat it is and why they all get paid the big bucks to talk and speak there minds. But they should tell the whole story and not just blame 1 dude
Let fields go to Atlanta he going to playoffs 😅😅😅 then watch how that open up Trevor Lawrence fields debate because one had more and haven’t did much while less haven’t did much this is interesting
@@LuvtheJEm Whenever I see or hear the name Jay Cutler, I automatically think of the meme with him looking bored with the ciggie hanging outta his mouth. Even though Jay is long gone, that picture perfectly epitomizes the current state of the bears organization.
@@kaptainkush4351 yeah but even his rookie season he showed promise before getting hurt. And yes he has amazing weapons but he had a terrible oline that SB run and mediocre defense.
And he was TRASH and got hurt his first year....THEN THEY DRAFTED JAMAR CHASE HIS SECOND YEAR..... seems like bears need to do the same, keep fields draft MHJ.....
Instead of wasting that no.1 overall pick on a quarterback, the Bears should trade it for more picks and build up that offensive line to help out Justin Fields
Texans rank 32 last year CJ has played way better than Justin Fields will ever play in his life, so yeah CJ did do something. Justin Fields has done nothing so yeah learn ball kiddo.😂
There is also a UA-cam video where players on the 2002 Cavaliers saying there were players better than LeBron James on the team. Players don’t always make the best scouts.
He threw for like 3k or more yards than fields with only 3 more games played than fields in college. 😂😂😂 he also had more rushing TDs way more passing TDs and a better int/td percentage
It's funny how everyone says Justin had three years but the first year Matt nagy didn't start him we had Andy Dalton and Nick Foles he was third stream only played in a few games not to mention his first game sacked 9 times. In year 2 he had no offensive line no receivers an a bad defense not to mention HE still ran for over 1,100yds this year is the first year he had a true WR and we saw what happened give the man Time
Justin started 10 Games under Nagy and went 2-8 and Alienated Foles and Dalton which is probably one of the reasons his Ability to Ready NFL Coverages and Throw into Those Windows was stymied. Why do y'all always mention his rushing yards and not his passing yards? He's not a running back. Justin is the one that announced before the season he wants to pass for 4000 yards. He tried to change his game without putting the necessary work in the film room in. The Bears are a Great Position. It is beyond simple for Defenses to game plan for Justin. He's a one read QB who can Run but is Indecisive about doing So.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m furthermore, last I checked Matt Nagy was a "Double Doink" from getting Mitch Trubisky and the Bears to the NFC Championship Game.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m KC has won two Super Bowls with Nagy at QB Coach and the last one with him at OC with below average to average Receivers who lead the league in Drops.
Everyone act like he’s solely responsible for every win or loss. How many games did the defense give away?? How good of an offensive line has he had?? What about offensive coordinators and coaches?? How many times was he put in position to win and didn’t??
@@greytaylor7065 unfortunately this is true as much as u prefer Justin he won’t have success in Chicago he must go I don’t think the bears have a winning culture so Caleb Williams will be in the same boat he may have “better stats” but he will have a “losing record”
@@omarih5644 Caleb is going to show out...what these half take commentators DONT tell you is that along with the #1 they have at LEAST 3 first round and 2 second round picks amonst others. Boyyy Stoppp.... 😂😂😂🏆🏆🏆
Chicago Improving the offensive line and getting Marvin Harrison jr building around him seems like the best answer you dont know for sure how Caleb will play in the NFL
It's all about the system Mahomes said it best. It happened to Alex Smith once he got into the system that worked for him he turned into a good qb. Coaching does matter
He back tracked because someone made him do it. He said he is not special or a generational talent. See, you have to many do boys on tv who just love to praise. And they are told to do so, it’s ok for a former pro to turn on film and have an honest opinion. USC wasn’t nothin special this past season and he was the QB, I’m not saying he isnt good, but I am saying there needs to be some brake pumping on just praising guys and calling them things like generational talent. Generational talent is Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Lebron James, Lionel Messi….PELE, Usain Bolt…Patrick Mahomes, Micheal Jordan, Ken Griffey Jr., Deion Sanders
How many games did Mahomes lose in college? How many games did Allen lose in college? How many games did Lamar lose in college? Penalizing a dude because the team around him wasn't filled with 5 stars like Fields had is dumb.
Hey, I paid good money for my son's OSU education, ha! Actually, saw Fields at the Fiesta Bowl, he can turn a game around. Got a lousy start in Chicago.@@GregLowe-bg6tr
Joy was the same one saying don't trade fields because you have to go through the same process of putting a rookie in a bad spot again and all that. Now look how she switched up
Fields has had 3 years and has been terrible the vast majority of it. If they pass on Caleb after passing on Stroud and Mahomes that would be THREE potential great QBs that they missed due to poor management and will likely cost people their jobs
@@tristingarcia4347 OK Patrick Mahomes was almost 10 years ago. It was seven years ago and they obviously missed. Last year they got a haul and improves their team. Plus it’s not that Justin Fields has been terrible. It’s that the team around him has been terrible. He was actually pretty good this past year when he was playing because he had a concussion. He missed a few games but he played pretty well. They are actually getting talent on the team. We don’t know what Caleb is because he makes bonehead decisions even with all his talent . He is by no means of perfect product. You actually know Justin Field is gonna be good because he was good this year and massively improved but you don’t know what Caleb Williams is going to be so you’re basically making a bet from some buddy you know who is gonna be good especially with the weapons improving and being able to trade down in the draft to get Weapons and improve your team on top of more graphics or you can take a gamble on Caleb Williams. Management is definitely in a tough spot because the fact is if they go on Caleb and he misses they’re done even if everything else looks good on the team because they traded away a good quarterback for the bet that they were going to get this generational talent that supposedly Caleb Williams is. Caleb Williams is not a generational talent. He’s a really good talent but he makes bonehead decisions and personally he didn’t look that great this year.
@@DuckFanDane Caleb is a generational talent and that’s indisputable. But let’s say the bears pass on him and he’s great how does that look for the franchise? That would mean in the past 7 years they passed on Mahomes, Cj and Caleb all for what? A guy who’s been inconsistent at best and is a better runner than passer? Sorry but the right decision is take Caleb and you can keep fields and let them battle for the position (if you really think fields is that guy). And if they draft Caleb the management gets a reset on the clock and another few years to make it work. Also we’ve seen what a difference having the right guy at the position means. Looks at Burrow with the bengals
@@johnmartinez4142 playoff games That’s also a dumb thing to say because besides the one random year the Rams won (in a rams fan) the only person to win has been Mahomes
Talking about Justin’s production? Does he block? Catch passes? Play defense? Justin Fields can run the length of the field away from cornerbacks. Shady is a momo.
The record comment is such a coup out - When two years ago the bears literally traded away everything of value, and it got us the No.1 pick and DJ Moore. Joy do better and not just a talking head.
I don’t understand why people keep pulling in the 1st 2 years of JF’s career when everyone knows that Matt Nagy was a dead man walking and the next year bears were essentially tanking. Judge him by his performance last year if you want to make a case whether he should go or stay
Its a bit unfair to count all his stats win loss before you gave the man tools to work with. DJ Moore came this year. Last year you gave him garbage and asked him to make a 5 course meal fit for a king. In 2022, he won 3 games out of 17 getting the 1st pick in the draft. This year they won 7 games after acquiring DJ Moore. All along you changing this and that, making him play in ways not matching his skill set. I am open to either trading him or a new QB but let's lay 90% of this at the feet of the Bears management and coaching not doing their job to put him in a position to win.
I disagree with Acho... he said that Caleb will be better for the Bears.. We dont know that... Fields has been on three OCs in like four seasons... like come on... How can a player progress successfully like that??
Bro … he only 10 wins because he was carrying the BEARS on HIS BACK … 1 man army .. no help !! If you ask me JF did a dammm good job he deserves another chance build that team to match his talent…. I SMELL MVP !
This is crazy, they're saying that Caleb is going to be a better NFL QB than Justin and Caleb hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet. I mean, yeah he won the Heisman, but he didnt win all that much in college. He never won his conference and never made the playoffs. I think Justin did that and made it the national championship game while at OSU. Plus, he was a heisman candidate every year during that span. Justin can ball, and I like him alot. Caleb gone be in for a rude awakening when he hit Chicago.
Remember just last year when they were calling Bryce Young generational. Well, his head coach ended up getting fired. Why are we going to get rid of JF1 in the first year he may have a team that can actually compete consistently with the best NFL teams.
@@alfansosimon4230 I suspect Ryan Poles feels the same. But he has so many options... We'll see what they offer him for his 1st pick... Or what they offer him fir JF as well. Peace Alfan.
They is an old saying a bird in the hand is worth 10 in the bush …. Justin isn’t responsible for those 28 games Chicago lost Its was mostly down to bad coaches and teams he wasn’t given the pieces We know Justin but not what a college rookie going to do in the pros ? Keep Justin get Harrison Jr and some defensive line help
Bring Justin to ATL! I'm good with it! Keep that same O lIne in Chicago and waste another QB. Justin isnt the first high pick QB over and over again waisted in the Windy City!
So now Justin Fields is the only reason that the Bears have been losing????? Not the Head Coach or the switching of OC and DC and lack of talent on both sides of the ball and mismanagement of the team in general????
The Bears are not trading Fields (who is owed 6M this year) for a bag of chips. They will pile up draft piicks and have a great draft followed by an all-time great draft.
@SpeakonFS1 Can you all please be honest and address the fact that the Bears have been rebuilding and that the Bears record isn't only on Justin. Look at his play and stop blaming him for the team owners decisions and play of his teammates.
More than likely than not, Justin won more games than Caleb during his college career. We have yet to see what Caleb will do on the next level. Unfortunately, we'll never know because Caleb will inherit what has been built with Jystin and the Bears. If he fails with the new-look Bears, we will know the Bears made a mistake trading Justin.
First off the Oline has been trash, every time the ball is snapped Fields is on skates, they don’t hold blocks long enough for receivers to run routes or make adjustments so i think if we had a strong Oline fields could be more successful
C'mon Joy. Don't make me lose respect for you. The Bears tore it down in 2022. The TEAM has been trash. Pinning the losses solely on Fields is dirty af
folks seem to forget that Fields has had like three different OCs since he been in NFL... he needs consistency as well as a good OC that will get the most out of him... if the new Bears OC can put Fields in a system similar to what Russ had when he was with the Seahawks... (good run game, quick passes, good TE play)
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myeah that’s a great idea make it 3 times that they pass on a generational talent for subpar QB play it would be true bears fashion and is why they’ve been irrelevant for the majority of everyone’s lifetime
I hate how they throw stats in your face. Does the quarterback catch the football? Does the quarterback play defense? Football is a team sport! Does the quarterback even call plays? Getsy loved to run the ball and call predictable screens. How can the man have a 300 yard passing game when your OC doesn't call for explosive plays? Oh yeah, they didn't have the personnel outside of DJ Moore to call explosive plays! Please don't say Justin is not capable of making explosive plays. Just look at his tape from Ohio State.
Caleb Williams lost 5 games at USC in 2024? If he's so good, why USC didn't make the playoffs and why was LSU QB rated the best QB in 2024. The only one on that panel who know what he talking about is the one who was WR in the NFL! He believes Justin Fields can play at a higher level IF the Bears get him some Help. Like a better Offensive line more elite WR. Kemet is going to be one of the best TE, the Bears need another TE. KEEP JUSTIN FIELDS.
Joy Taylor's only argument is Justin Fields is 10-26 as a starter, when his first two seasons the Bears literally had the worst roster in the NFL. You can't win games when Darnell Mooney is your WR1, and your defense gives up 30+ points a game. Fields is 24 years old, has improved every season with a different OC each season. He has the respect of the locker room. She never goes deeper into the numbers, just stays stuck on his record. Plus they are a playoff team last season if they don't have the 3 worst losses in NFL history, all in one season.
These fools are still not realizing how bad the bears was J Fields first 2 and a half seasons of his career. How many games do they expect this Caleb kid to win for a bad organization in NFL when he didn't win in college
Terrible argument by Joy teams win games not just your quarterback in his second year the Bears decided to have a rebuild the question is if you can give Eberflus another year Justin most definitely deserves one because out of the two Justin has shown to still be worthy and to be built around.
Shady & Joy stuck on that W/L records which is a team stat. They are hating on Justin & going to look like fools when he sees success & Caleb falls on his face.
Judging Players by there Stats but now watching the games obviously 😂 JF1 can easily have 10 more Ws but the defense blew it… Watch the Bears and then talk
With about all the 4th quarters where Fields threw a pick or fumble to lose the game? Is that the WRs fault also? Or the 3 years of injuries? WR caused that? Fields got a better line, 2 WRs, a better coach on defense and offense and still failed. His backup almost had the same amount of wins this season. That alone says a lot.
@@tristingarcia4347 I wish it was a iq to join social media because clearly you wouldn’t make the cut . Who said we couldn’t talk about his poor stats or teams wins ? All o said was the team record isn’t an individual stat which it isn’t. Sir you lack the intelligence to hold this conversation
@@ramonejones6749 I think you should look in the mirror for that because the OP is the one who said that judging a player by their STATS shouldn’t be done then you brought up WINS. So then by that logic we can’t judge fields by either what’s so hard to understand about that? And I agree wins aren’t an individual stat but QBs affect wins the most out of any position on the field and it’s proven by Mahomes and Burrow and All and Lamar where you have teams who have had success or none and now that they have their guy they’re in constant contention
y’all clearly don’t care about this topic Joy’s 10-27 nice that you had career numbers but if you want to win go Caleb. nfl is not college so let’s compare college. Caleb never competed in a college playoff game justin has and won. If Caleb couldn’t make a college team he chose to go to win how is he supposed to make a nfl team he’s forced to go to win? Also huge part of that record you love to bring up is a rookie season and a tank season. At this point I need community notes to pop up under that take. Acho said open the door don’t look through the key hole. But that’s what you doing with Caleb you looking through that keyhole and thinking you understand the room but once you open it you can’t unopen it and get fields back if the room isn’t what you thought you made and expensive downgrade no refunds financially ruined Fields door is open and while it may not be a sweet just yet you see the potential you know how it could become great so why would you go to a mystery door Also Justin’s better for bears keeping him means they get more rookie draft picks coming in and impact veteran as opposed to an experienced qb they have to wait on to be great and which takes away potential resources Shady says fields isn’t talented. Where’s the talent idk maybe the fact that the qb who can’t throw has given dj moore career highs with his arm. Maybe it’s the numerous all time dual threat records broken maybe it’s the back to back 4 tds games leading to Justin sitting at the top of the league in tds after injury. Maybe it’s the fact that his stats in the last 20 games are comparable to league mvp Lamar Jackson Just don’t be surprised when the bears keep fields again and you are left scrambling wondering how this could have happened. The information is out there and free
@@blackboy539040 if you put them on the same team Justin is starting over him. But you can’t use Caleb’s college stuff to say he’s better than fields then go hypothetical to try and defend the fact that fields was better in college
Calib is exceptional college talent, justin was too, we don’t know what Calib will be, but we have seen the results Justin has produced, the definition of insanity is . . . Justin has had his chance to shown what he can do, just like burrow, Tua, Herbert. I’m not saying he’s less better than Calib but it’s time to move in a different direction.
Justin fields is a better leader , way more humble , he’s a Quarterback and most people will follow him . Caleb Williams has talent like every other qb but that ego and that attitude he has will not rock and lead a locker room 🤦🏾♂️
I think the part of the conversation that's missing is, DJ is hyping up his guy because even small tidbits and soundbites from Justin's current WR1 increases his value. Even if his friend gets traded, DJ wants him to be shown in the best light, and he has leverage to do so. Good friend.
This show is just shock value. JJ is the only logical person the rest are just there for entertainment with zero knowledge. Shady was a beast on the field but I doubt he knows X’s and O’s on a high level.
@@koberipple there’s definitely enough blame to go around but even with those 5 games he still has a massive losing record. I also think he doesn’t look confident in the pocket and can’t read defenses as well as he should considering he’s supposed to be the guy.
I don’t understand how nobody is considering the success Justin Fields had statistically knowing that he played for a team that was the top 5 worst of the league since he has been on it. In spite of the lack of help talent and management-wise, he has been balling out. This leads me to think as they improve around him, he will only get even better.
Put JF in the right situation then let see what he does… I believe replacing him now would be a mistake… Let be fair and with a better offense play calling, center/lineman and playmaker then evaluate him fairly…
I'm convinced, nobody in this show watched a single Bears game, except James... their arguments are all stat based, while James points to attributes he's seen live JF has gotten notably better since his rookie year. He just needs to stay healthy
Let's look at Justin Fields WRs, DJ Moore and um...okay, Tight Ends he has Cole Kmet and...uh...well let's look at this running backs, David Montgo....oh wait, they got rid of him. Put some pieces around Justin Fields and see what you have.
Fields stats throwing to Cole kmet and DJ Moore are off the charts good. Fields is great, he's had no talent around him until this year. Even this year he's only had 2 weapons worth throwing to. The other recievers shouldn't be in the league. In his 1st and 2nd year Justin literally had the worst talent on offense around him that I've ever seen in the nfl. Don't even get me started on Nagy and Getsy. Also Poles focusing on linebackers in FA last year, and the secondary in the draft 2 years ago is freaking wild. The bears should be ashamed of themselves for how they've treated Fields, and he is still surviving. Almost any other qb wouldve been out of the nfl already.
What makes people think Caleb Williams will be good? How many #1 picks that are QBs really like that? Maybe 3 in the last 20 yrs! And don't say it's the teams cause they all sorry picking 1
Y'all fail to realize that Justin Fields didn't have anybody to throw to and the offensive line was completely garbage so Justin Fields had to do all that he can Josh Allen wasn't nothing until they gave him some help Jalen hurts wasn't nothing until they gave him some help Justin Fields needs help period
Shorty on the cast talking about the wins did not watch one bears game she has no credibility on the topic she’s just piggybacking off the guys on the show Caleb is not better than Justin and McCoy is a hater
Imagine people Defending A QB who has a 10-28 record and is Dead Last in Passer Rating(61.3), Completion Percentage(55.8%), and wait for it, the Most Interceptions(16) in the 4th Quarter since he Started in the League. 😅 This is Insanity!
@@lonwoolf7370 also Justin kept us in many of those games the defense failed multiple times especially last year most games we lost was with in one score we should keep building around him and keep the momentum going 🐻⬇️
@@lonwoolf7370 No he doesn't. Not by any measurable, but running the ball and that took a significant decrease this year as his passing ability never improved. He's the QB of the Bears and I can point to at least 10 games where he lost it for the team in the 4th Quarter.
@@michaelbrooks7859 of course Justin still needs time to develop but it’s not many QBs in the league that are better than Fields.. he’s putting up decent numbers with noting to work with.. give him a competent coach, decent running game and weapons to work with he can lead the bears to playoffs every year
All due respect to women in ALL FACETS OF LIFE! However, when you talk about Justin Fields as a QB in the MOST TEAM ORIENTED sport there is and criticize 1 player for the lack of wins for a team, you lose credibility for the sake of ratings, talking points, etc…problem is, this sort of false narrative gathers steam without much truth. The truth is you CAN judge Fields’ play by DJ2’s career high stats. In fact, JF1’s passer rating when targeting DJ2 was 146, which LEAD THE NFL among QB-WR duos with more than 50 attempts! This should show you how talented JF1 is and how with even decent weapons(to add to DJ2)and a consistently good OL, his play will be top tier. Mind you, DC’s around the league knew DJ2 was the Bears primary option, and for the most part could not stop this QB-WR duo…I repeat…they LED THE LEAGUE…146!
This chick talking about winning like Caleb Williams has won big games in college or something 😭 my Panthers had the worse record not the bears they got our number 1 pick
Jalen hurts is not better then Justin fields but joy and shady throw hurts on a peddle stool as if hurts ain't surrounded by all pros everywhere and number are still pedestrian !!!!
So we're saying qb wins matter the most? if so... they should sign jimmy g...he's a winner. Is jimmy go better than Justin herbert? Is ben Rothlesberger better than peyton manning? Like qb wins is a statistic but it is NOT an intellectually honest one. I trade fields for money reasons but this wins losses mess is getting tired. Seems like there's only one analyst on the panel here
24 qb’s have been drafted number 1 over all. Only Jim plunkett terry bradshaw, Payton manning, Troy Aikman and John Elway have won a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them! Stop picking all those generational talents and build the team! Yes Eli won one but was not drafted by the giants it was a trade! You think Caleb is on that level first ballot hall of fame????? Andrew luck never won cam newton never won Trevor looks bad. Odds are Caleb, if drafted might be great but will not win a Super Bowl with the team that drafts him as number 1! Why waste the pick??? Please respond and let’s have a conversation!
Someone tell me how a player who hasn’t played a single down in the league. Is better than the guy who is the second fastest to throw for 5,000 yards and rush for 2,000 yards in the history of the league only the two time league MVP Lamar Jackson has done it faster in 33 games to his 35.
How is Caleb Williams a better player more than likely than not, that’s just an assumption made to defend your position, he ain’t ever played a game in the NFL. Bo Callahan 2.0
This is dumb. Hw do any of you know CW will be successful in the NFL level. These goofies are clowning JF and will be wrong. Joy is so idiot of touch with the real gm.
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I'm from Chicago. We don't have three offensive coordinators, two head coaches in the last 3 years of Justin fields career
I understand the idolization of players but as an organization when you see the talent but the lack of organization that always gets overlooked and we put it on the player
That's bad business
And I'll f*** with the panel but they always do that to Justin
And I've been living in Chicago since 1994
Also Justin's not even a running quarterback in college he threw from the pocket majority time
In Chicago Bear fan no, we ain't never really been a good organization team
Why is she still on the show!!! She just sound stupid!
Bears really dropped the ball big time smh
How is the jury still out on Trevor Lawrence but not on Justin Fields? They’re in the same draft & the Jags has given him a ton of more talent to play with over who Justin Fields has played with. Chicago Bears is the reason they have 10 wins in 3 seasons, not only on Justin Fields.
The jury is not out on Trevor Lawrence. His stock has definitely dropped last season but he's still a lot better than Justin Fields right now.
Trevor's jewelry is way more expensive then fields
@@maskedman5657 idk know 1 quarterback who has ever been successful with an o-line & one than more offensive weapon. His line is horrible rather it’s a run blocking or pass blocking. The coach system was trash. Idk, I just think it’s just hard to determine how good or bad Fields is. Chicago hasn’t produced a good QB in ages.
Jewelry
Exactly
They say fields should have more wins, well by that logic, if Caleb is actually better, usc wouldn't have a trash season and make playoffs
Facts. And lost the PAC 12 Championship game… Stop please dude is not that
Facts. They act like J. Fields had help. The man had 0 options opposite of Dj Moore. That o-line been trash. We don't know what Fields can be.
The BEARS problem isn't JUSTIN FIELDS!! The Bears problem is the BEARS ORGANIZATION not JUSTIN FIELDS. Poles is trying to get away from the old Bears way of doing nothing but give you lip service
I think its funny that everyone just blames Fields like the Bears are a great team and a great franchise. Lol yhey never bring up how much of a mess that franchise has been since Fields took over and how many coaches hes had. But it is ehat it is and why they all get paid the big bucks to talk and speak there minds. But they should tell the whole story and not just blame 1 dude
Let fields go to Atlanta he going to playoffs 😅😅😅 then watch how that open up Trevor Lawrence fields debate because one had more and haven’t did much while less haven’t did much this is interesting
Chicago has been a disaster for decades. Jay Cutler is the closest they've had to a franchise QB since Harbaugh in the early 90's.
@@LuvtheJEm Whenever I see or hear the name Jay Cutler, I automatically think of the meme with him looking bored with the ciggie hanging outta his mouth. Even though Jay is long gone, that picture perfectly epitomizes the current state of the bears organization.
.500 team without Fields, .250 with him, the end 😂
Is this satire? Nobody gets more excuses and treated more favorably by fans and the media than Justin Fields. Excuses have been made for years.
Ppl act like Justin Fields didn't get drafted to the worst team in the NFL. Keep Fields improve that O Line and keep improving around him.
Joe burrow had the same situation and is the proof that the right guy at QB can change your culture and win you games
@@tristingarcia4347 Burrow has a stacked offense around him.
@@kaptainkush4351 yeah but even his rookie season he showed promise before getting hurt. And yes he has amazing weapons but he had a terrible oline that SB run and mediocre defense.
And he was TRASH and got hurt his first year....THEN THEY DRAFTED JAMAR CHASE HIS SECOND YEAR.....
seems like bears need to do the same, keep fields draft MHJ.....
Theirs like 10 worst teams then the bears tho
Instead of wasting that no.1 overall pick on a quarterback, the Bears should trade it for more picks and build up that offensive line to help out Justin Fields
Bro, how much help does he need? Look at what CJ did in the weapons he had enough of the excuses he’s trash!!!
@@C.G91what exactly did cj do? Go to a franchise that got it right on the coaching and every other position 😂
Learn ball kiddo
@@MeBihhhh So yeah, learn ball kiddo
Texans rank 32 last year CJ has played way better than Justin Fields will ever play in his life, so yeah CJ did do something. Justin Fields has done nothing so yeah learn ball kiddo.😂
Bears are getting Kaleb you can believe that
Acho is a hypocrite. In a Chicago podcast he said he was for building around Justin Fields.This show is the worst. I'd rather watch Kay Adams
D.J. Moore sees the talent in Justin Fields
There is also a UA-cam video where players on the 2002 Cavaliers saying there were players better than LeBron James on the team. Players don’t always make the best scouts.
@@justanother1797😂😂😂😂
It just never really translates in games
@@RB-.- Fields has had like three different OCs in like four seasons.. How can a player progress successfully like that??
@@justanother1797the fact that you’re comparing a Caleb to the goat is why nobody takes you Caleb Stan’s seriously 😂
Didn’t Fields win more in college than Williams? Why is everyone so sure Williams will turn the Bears around?
Everybody doesn’t know just talking outside of their mouth
Eye test
Williams won a Heisman with one legit star WR in 3 years. JF had several
Williams lost against lesser competition too 😂. I think the bears will be good no matter what they do.
He threw for like 3k or more yards than fields with only 3 more games played than fields in college. 😂😂😂 he also had more rushing TDs way more passing TDs and a better int/td percentage
This is the most funniest show on the network.
DJ is 💯% right.
JF1 Go DJ #2
It's funny how everyone says Justin had three years but the first year Matt nagy didn't start him we had Andy Dalton and Nick Foles he was third stream only played in a few games not to mention his first game sacked 9 times. In year 2 he had no offensive line no receivers an a bad defense not to mention HE still ran for over 1,100yds this year is the first year he had a true WR and we saw what happened give the man Time
Justin started 10 Games under Nagy and went 2-8 and Alienated Foles and Dalton which is probably one of the reasons his Ability to Ready NFL Coverages and Throw into Those Windows was stymied. Why do y'all always mention his rushing yards and not his passing yards? He's not a running back. Justin is the one that announced before the season he wants to pass for 4000 yards. He tried to change his game without putting the necessary work in the film room in. The Bears are a Great Position. It is beyond simple for Defenses to game plan for Justin. He's a one read QB who can Run but is Indecisive about doing So.
@@michaelbrooks7859Look what happened when Matt Nagy was the Kansas City Chiefs OC? They finished outside of the top 10 in scoring on offense
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m they have one two straight Super Bowls with him at OC with Mid Level Receivers...
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m furthermore, last I checked Matt Nagy was a "Double Doink" from getting Mitch Trubisky and the Bears to the NFC Championship Game.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m KC has won two Super Bowls with Nagy at QB Coach and the last one with him at OC with below average to average Receivers who lead the league in Drops.
Actually, Chicago isn't talking about drafting a QB, the media is.
Chicago should literally do the OPPOSITE of everything they think is the right move when it comes to the QB position
Lol exactly.. can’t wait til the bears draft Marvin Harrison and have the whole media looking stupid
@@lonwoolf7370If they draft MHJ, it will not be the media looking stupid. It would be once again, the Chicago Bears.
@@justanother1797 🤣🤣🤣
Guess you don't pay attention, cause they are talking about drafting a QB,
Everyone act like he’s solely responsible for every win or loss. How many games did the defense give away??
How good of an offensive line has he had?? What about offensive coordinators and coaches?? How many times was he put in position to win and didn’t??
Everyone *ACTS, not ACT. Noun - verb agreement. Remedial, elementary English. Zero excuses, this entire society of illiterates. Be better.
“My man had 1300 yards 96 catches 9TDs all career highs”
Bout 1100 of those yards came off screen passes
@@greytaylor7065there’s no way your this much of a hater lol
@@omarih5644 Bears are drafting Caleb Justin az is done there end of story
@@greytaylor7065 unfortunately this is true as much as u prefer Justin he won’t have success in Chicago he must go I don’t think the bears have a winning culture so Caleb Williams will be in the same boat he may have “better stats” but he will have a “losing record”
@@omarih5644 Caleb is going to show out...what these half take commentators DONT tell you is that along with the #1 they have at LEAST 3 first round and 2 second round picks amonst others. Boyyy Stoppp.... 😂😂😂🏆🏆🏆
Chicago Improving the offensive line and getting Marvin Harrison jr building around him seems like the best answer you dont know for sure how Caleb will play in the NFL
I believe that's the best move. It's on them to figure it out.
Joy said does DJ like winnimg games meanwhile Caleb Williams went 8-5 in college, got USC playing in the Toilet Bowl this past year 😂😂
Mahomes was 5-8 0-9 vs ranked teams college means nothing
USC averaged 39 points in those 5 games.
@@davis2k1234Look who Patrick Mahomes head coach/offensive coordinator was
It's all about the system Mahomes said it best. It happened to Alex Smith once he got into the system that worked for him he turned into a good qb. Coaching does matter
you must totally ignore USC defense...
Merrill hodge said Caleb Williams is not special and he’s not a generational talent. He said the same thing about Johnny manziel
He went on the herd today and said he had special accuracy. When he said not special he meant his pocket prescence
He also said calebs accuracy is elite. He said Johhny would just flat out be a bust
He pretty much back tracked that whole statement.
He also said Sam Darnold was going to be the best quarterback out of his class.
He back tracked because someone made him do it. He said he is not special or a generational talent. See, you have to many do boys on tv who just love to praise. And they are told to do so, it’s ok for a former pro to turn on film and have an honest opinion. USC wasn’t nothin special this past season and he was the QB, I’m not saying he isnt good, but I am saying there needs to be some brake pumping on just praising guys and calling them things like generational talent. Generational talent is Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Lebron James, Lionel Messi….PELE, Usain Bolt…Patrick Mahomes, Micheal Jordan, Ken Griffey Jr., Deion Sanders
How many games did fields lose in college?
Caleb is coming off a bad year and you still think he's better than field's.
And...I hate Ohio state..😭😂💯
How many did mahomes win
How many games did Mahomes lose in college? How many games did Allen lose in college? How many games did Lamar lose in college? Penalizing a dude because the team around him wasn't filled with 5 stars like Fields had is dumb.
Hey, I paid good money for my son's OSU education, ha! Actually, saw Fields at the Fiesta Bowl, he can turn a game around. Got a lousy start in Chicago.@@GregLowe-bg6tr
@@RB-.-stop comparing mahomes and Allen to college quarterbacks such an NPC response do better
Keep Justin
Probably not happening
@@maskedman5657 hm
Joy was the same one saying don't trade fields because you have to go through the same process of putting a rookie in a bad spot again and all that. Now look how she switched up
Fields has had 3 years and has been terrible the vast majority of it. If they pass on Caleb after passing on Stroud and Mahomes that would be THREE potential great QBs that they missed due to poor management and will likely cost people their jobs
@@tristingarcia4347 OK Patrick Mahomes was almost 10 years ago. It was seven years ago and they obviously missed. Last year they got a haul and improves their team. Plus it’s not that Justin Fields has been terrible. It’s that the team around him has been terrible. He was actually pretty good this past year when he was playing because he had a concussion. He missed a few games but he played pretty well. They are actually getting talent on the team. We don’t know what Caleb is because he makes bonehead decisions even with all his talent . He is by no means of perfect product. You actually know Justin Field is gonna be good because he was good this year and massively improved but you don’t know what Caleb Williams is going to be so you’re basically making a bet from some buddy you know who is gonna be good especially with the weapons improving and being able to trade down in the draft to get Weapons and improve your team on top of more graphics or you can take a gamble on Caleb Williams. Management is definitely in a tough spot because the fact is if they go on Caleb and he misses they’re done even if everything else looks good on the team because they traded away a good quarterback for the bet that they were going to get this generational talent that supposedly Caleb Williams is. Caleb Williams is not a generational talent. He’s a really good talent but he makes bonehead decisions and personally he didn’t look that great this year.
@@DuckFanDane Caleb is a generational talent and that’s indisputable. But let’s say the bears pass on him and he’s great how does that look for the franchise? That would mean in the past 7 years they passed on Mahomes, Cj and Caleb all for what? A guy who’s been inconsistent at best and is a better runner than passer? Sorry but the right decision is take Caleb and you can keep fields and let them battle for the position (if you really think fields is that guy). And if they draft Caleb the management gets a reset on the clock and another few years to make it work. Also we’ve seen what a difference having the right guy at the position means. Looks at Burrow with the bengals
@@tristingarcia4347 what has Burrow won?
@@johnmartinez4142 playoff games
That’s also a dumb thing to say because besides the one random year the Rams won (in a rams fan) the only person to win has been Mahomes
Talking about Justin’s production? Does he block? Catch passes? Play defense? Justin Fields can run the length of the field away from cornerbacks. Shady is a momo.
Jayden is the guy to get. He already play in an NFL style offense. He is THE latest Heisman trophy. Beast.
The record comment is such a coup out - When two years ago the bears literally traded away everything of value, and it got us the No.1 pick and DJ Moore. Joy do better and not just a talking head.
Oh you didn’t know rebuild years count, and it doesn’t matter that you traded away your best players Roquan, Mack, leave it all on the QB ☺️
I don’t understand why people keep pulling in the 1st 2 years of JF’s career when everyone knows that Matt Nagy was a dead man walking and the next year bears were essentially tanking. Judge him by his performance last year if you want to make a case whether he should go or stay
Its a bit unfair to count all his stats win loss before you gave the man tools to work with. DJ Moore came this year. Last year you gave him garbage and asked him to make a 5 course meal fit for a king. In 2022, he won 3 games out of 17 getting the 1st pick in the draft. This year they won 7 games after acquiring DJ Moore. All along you changing this and that, making him play in ways not matching his skill set.
I am open to either trading him or a new QB but let's lay 90% of this at the feet of the Bears management and coaching not doing their job to put him in a position to win.
I disagree with Acho... he said that Caleb will be better for the Bears.. We dont know that... Fields has been on three OCs in like four seasons... like come on... How can a player progress successfully like that??
Joy is absolutely Beautiful and smart but to act like JF1 wasnt in a complete tear down and revuild and gets blamed.for.the record is CRAZY!!!!
Bro … he only 10 wins because he was carrying the BEARS on HIS BACK … 1 man army .. no help !! If you ask me JF did a dammm good job he deserves another chance build that team to match his talent…. I SMELL MVP !
Exactly!!
This is crazy, they're saying that Caleb is going to be a better NFL QB than Justin and Caleb hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet. I mean, yeah he won the Heisman, but he didnt win all that much in college. He never won his conference and never made the playoffs. I think Justin did that and made it the national championship game while at OSU. Plus, he was a heisman candidate every year during that span. Justin can ball, and I like him alot. Caleb gone be in for a rude awakening when he hit Chicago.
Again, this old take... give CW or Maye the awful coaching and terrible OL JF had his first 2 years, and they'll go bust 3-14 in no time.
Remember just last year when they were calling Bryce Young generational. Well, his head coach ended up getting fired.
Why are we going to get rid of JF1 in the first year he may have a team that can actually compete consistently with the best NFL teams.
@@alfansosimon4230 I suspect Ryan Poles feels the same. But he has so many options... We'll see what they offer him for his 1st pick... Or what they offer him fir JF as well. Peace Alfan.
No professional has ever said an unproven rookie is better than them,the answer is never,stop it, these bum analyst's need to stop.
They is an old saying a bird in the hand is worth 10 in the bush …. Justin isn’t responsible for those 28 games Chicago lost Its was mostly down to bad coaches and teams he wasn’t given the pieces
We know Justin but not what a college rookie going to do in the pros ?
Keep Justin get Harrison Jr and some defensive line help
Bring Justin to ATL! I'm good with it! Keep that same O lIne in Chicago and waste another QB. Justin isnt the first high pick QB over and over again waisted in the Windy City!
So now Justin Fields is the only reason that the Bears have been losing????? Not the Head Coach or the switching of OC and DC and lack of talent on both sides of the ball and mismanagement of the team in general????
Justin had multiple offensive coordinators. Poor play-calling as well. You will see.
The Bears are not trading Fields (who is owed 6M this year) for a bag of chips. They will pile up draft piicks and have a great draft followed by an all-time great draft.
@SpeakonFS1 Can you all please be honest and address the fact that the Bears have been rebuilding and that the Bears record isn't only on Justin. Look at his play and stop blaming him for the team owners decisions and play of his teammates.
More than likely than not, Justin won more games than Caleb during his college career. We have yet to see what Caleb will do on the next level. Unfortunately, we'll never know because Caleb will inherit what has been built with Jystin and the Bears. If he fails with the new-look Bears, we will know the Bears made a mistake trading Justin.
First off the Oline has been trash, every time the ball is snapped Fields is on skates, they don’t hold blocks long enough for receivers to run routes or make adjustments so i think if we had a strong Oline fields could be more successful
C'mon Joy. Don't make me lose respect for you. The Bears tore it down in 2022. The TEAM has been trash. Pinning the losses solely on Fields is dirty af
folks seem to forget that Fields has had like three different OCs since he been in NFL... he needs consistency as well as a good OC that will get the most out of him... if the new Bears OC can put Fields in a system similar to what Russ had when he was with the Seahawks... (good run game, quick passes, good TE play)
These two are the most talked about quarterbacks that haven’t done anything yet in the nfl
the media really wants the Bears to draft Caleb for the drama
@@Anime4Life35and the Bears should trade that no.1 overall pick
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myeah that’s a great idea make it 3 times that they pass on a generational talent for subpar QB play it would be true bears fashion and is why they’ve been irrelevant for the majority of everyone’s lifetime
I hate how they throw stats in your face. Does the quarterback catch the football? Does the quarterback play defense? Football is a team sport! Does the quarterback even call plays? Getsy loved to run the ball and call predictable screens. How can the man have a 300 yard passing game when your OC doesn't call for explosive plays? Oh yeah, they didn't have the personnel outside of DJ Moore to call explosive plays! Please don't say Justin is not capable of making explosive plays. Just look at his tape from Ohio State.
Caleb Williams lost 5 games at USC in 2024? If he's so good, why USC didn't make the playoffs and why was LSU QB rated the best QB in 2024.
The only one on that panel who know what he talking about is the one who was WR in the NFL! He believes Justin Fields can play at a higher level IF the Bears get him some Help. Like a better Offensive line more elite WR. Kemet is going to be one of the best TE, the Bears need another TE. KEEP JUSTIN FIELDS.
“Y’all are looking through the keyhole, y’all gotta open up the door”🚪-BARS!!!
"10 wins in 3 years." - throwin' out wrong numbers... (plus, he didn't start in all.)
Joy really said “Do you want to win?” Caleb Williams didn’t win big in college.
When they put the team wins and losses on JF tells me how much they know. Experts? I dont think so!
Joy Taylor's only argument is Justin Fields is 10-26 as a starter, when his first two seasons the Bears literally had the worst roster in the NFL. You can't win games when Darnell Mooney is your WR1, and your defense gives up 30+ points a game. Fields is 24 years old, has improved every season with a different OC each season. He has the respect of the locker room. She never goes deeper into the numbers, just stays stuck on his record. Plus they are a playoff team last season if they don't have the 3 worst losses in NFL history, all in one season.
These fools are still not realizing how bad the bears was J Fields first 2 and a half seasons of his career.
How many games do they expect this Caleb kid to win for a bad organization in NFL when he didn't win in college
Fields wasn’t set up to win, the Bears have been rebuilding for 3 years. Now next year is the season he makes that leap to greatness.
Acho said " DjMoore is looking through the key hole you gotta open up the door" thats a bar 🔥🔥🔥
Terrible argument by Joy teams win games not just your quarterback in his second year the Bears decided to have a rebuild the question is if you can give Eberflus another year Justin most definitely deserves one because out of the two Justin has shown to still be worthy and to be built around.
Shady & Joy stuck on that
W/L records which is a team stat. They are hating on Justin & going to look like fools when he sees success & Caleb falls on his face.
Judging Players by there Stats but now watching the games obviously 😂 JF1 can easily have 10 more Ws but the defense blew it… Watch the Bears and then talk
With about all the 4th quarters where Fields threw a pick or fumble to lose the game? Is that the WRs fault also? Or the 3 years of injuries? WR caused that? Fields got a better line, 2 WRs, a better coach on defense and offense and still failed. His backup almost had the same amount of wins this season. That alone says a lot.
@@AilmanF2Pyou seriously don’t know what you’re talking about team wins isn’t a individual stat . lol you’re embarrassing yourself
@@ramonejones6749so we can’t talk about his poor stats OR the wins? So what makes people think he has any upside?
@@tristingarcia4347 I wish it was a iq to join social media because clearly you wouldn’t make the cut . Who said we couldn’t talk about his poor stats or teams wins ? All o said was the team record isn’t an individual stat which it isn’t. Sir you lack the intelligence to hold this conversation
@@ramonejones6749 I think you should look in the mirror for that because the OP is the one who said that judging a player by their STATS shouldn’t be done then you brought up WINS. So then by that logic we can’t judge fields by either what’s so hard to understand about that? And I agree wins aren’t an individual stat but QBs affect wins the most out of any position on the field and it’s proven by Mahomes and Burrow and All and Lamar where you have teams who have had success or none and now that they have their guy they’re in constant contention
y’all clearly don’t care about this topic
Joy’s 10-27 nice that you had career numbers but if you want to win go Caleb.
nfl is not college so let’s compare college. Caleb never competed in a college playoff game justin has and won. If Caleb couldn’t make a college team he chose to go to win how is he supposed to make a nfl team he’s forced to go to win?
Also huge part of that record you love to bring up is a rookie season and a tank season. At this point I need community notes to pop up under that take.
Acho said open the door don’t look through the key hole. But that’s what you doing with Caleb you looking through that keyhole and thinking you understand the room but once you open it you can’t unopen it and get fields back if the room isn’t what you thought you made and expensive downgrade no refunds financially ruined
Fields door is open and while it may not be a sweet just yet you see the potential you know how it could become great so why would you go to a mystery door
Also Justin’s better for bears keeping him means they get more rookie draft picks coming in and impact veteran as opposed to an experienced qb they have to wait on to be great and which takes away potential resources
Shady says fields isn’t talented. Where’s the talent idk maybe the fact that the qb who can’t throw has given dj moore career highs with his arm. Maybe it’s the numerous all time dual threat records broken maybe it’s the back to back 4 tds games leading to Justin sitting at the top of the league in tds after injury.
Maybe it’s the fact that his stats in the last 20 games are comparable to league mvp Lamar Jackson
Just don’t be surprised when the bears keep fields again and you are left scrambling wondering how this could have happened. The information is out there and free
If you put Calib on Ohio state for four years😢
@@blackboy539040 if you put them on the same team Justin is starting over him. But you can’t use Caleb’s college stuff to say he’s better than fields then go hypothetical to try and defend the fact that fields was better in college
Calib is exceptional college talent, justin was too, we don’t know what Calib will be, but we have seen the results Justin has produced, the definition of insanity is . . . Justin has had his chance to shown what he can do, just like burrow, Tua, Herbert. I’m not saying he’s less better than Calib but it’s time to move in a different direction.
The Speak Cast is just getting cornier and cornier each episode
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Justin fields is a better leader , way more humble , he’s a Quarterback and most people will follow him . Caleb Williams has talent like every other qb but that ego and that attitude he has will not rock and lead a locker room 🤦🏾♂️
I think the part of the conversation that's missing is, DJ is hyping up his guy because even small tidbits and soundbites from Justin's current WR1 increases his value. Even if his friend gets traded, DJ wants him to be shown in the best light, and he has leverage to do so. Good friend.
This show is just shock value. JJ is the only logical person the rest are just there for entertainment with zero knowledge. Shady was a beast on the field but I doubt he knows X’s and O’s on a high level.
A team was torn down and rebuilt and Justin is responsible for that, how are these guys commentators with these dumb comments.
I forgot that ring chasing bench riding shady played with Josh allen😂😂 no wonder he swinging on josh😂
1st year bears were tanking.
2nd year bears were tanking
3rd year bears defense gave up FIVE 4th quarter leads.
Context matters
They don’t believe in context
How did fields play in those games? Let’s talk about the context of his play on the field
@@tristingarcia4347 well he handed 5 leads to the defense! And like always Getsy went to protect lead mode.
@@koberipple there’s definitely enough blame to go around but even with those 5 games he still has a massive losing record. I also think he doesn’t look confident in the pocket and can’t read defenses as well as he should considering he’s supposed to be the guy.
@tristingarcia4347 he played well until the OC couldn't figure out how to make adjustments
I don’t understand how nobody is considering the success Justin Fields had statistically knowing that he played for a team that was the top 5 worst of the league since he has been on it. In spite of the lack of help talent and management-wise, he has been balling out. This leads me to think as they improve around him, he will only get even better.
Joy agree with everything shady says I mean everything !!!!
DJ was catching passes from mid-QBs when he was in Carolina. DJ will absolutely love Williams.
This gotta be the worst sports talk show in America 😂
Put JF in the right situation then let see what he does… I believe replacing him now would be a mistake… Let be fair and with a better offense play calling, center/lineman and playmaker then evaluate him fairly…
I'm convinced, nobody in this show watched a single Bears game, except James... their arguments are all stat based, while James points to attributes he's seen live
JF has gotten notably better since his rookie year. He just needs to stay healthy
The winning games take is hilarious he's only one person it takes a complete team to win games not just one player
Yeah because Fields was playing defense too
Let's look at Justin Fields WRs, DJ Moore and um...okay, Tight Ends he has Cole Kmet and...uh...well let's look at this running backs, David Montgo....oh wait, they got rid of him. Put some pieces around Justin Fields and see what you have.
Fields stats throwing to Cole kmet and DJ Moore are off the charts good. Fields is great, he's had no talent around him until this year. Even this year he's only had 2 weapons worth throwing to. The other recievers shouldn't be in the league. In his 1st and 2nd year Justin literally had the worst talent on offense around him that I've ever seen in the nfl. Don't even get me started on Nagy and Getsy. Also Poles focusing on linebackers in FA last year, and the secondary in the draft 2 years ago is freaking wild. The bears should be ashamed of themselves for how they've treated Fields, and he is still surviving. Almost any other qb wouldve been out of the nfl already.
caleb will be running for his life. fields much faster.
Shady always hating on Fields
What makes people think Caleb Williams will be good? How many #1 picks that are QBs really like that? Maybe 3 in the last 20 yrs! And don't say it's the teams cause they all sorry picking 1
Y'all fail to realize that Justin Fields didn't have anybody to throw to and the offensive line was completely garbage so Justin Fields had to do all that he can Josh Allen wasn't nothing until they gave him some help Jalen hurts wasn't nothing until they gave him some help Justin Fields needs help period
Winning is not just on qb
Shady has that Steven A lining incoming
Shorty on the cast talking about the wins did not watch one bears game she has no credibility on the topic she’s just piggybacking off the guys on the show Caleb is not better than Justin and McCoy is a hater
Imagine people Defending A QB who has a 10-28 record and is Dead Last in Passer Rating(61.3), Completion Percentage(55.8%), and wait for it, the Most Interceptions(16) in the 4th Quarter since he Started in the League. 😅
This is Insanity!
In the last 20 games Justin fields has better stats than MVP Lamar.look it up !..don’t fall for media nonsense, the bears are 10-28…Not Justin fields
@@lonwoolf7370 also Justin kept us in many of those games the defense failed multiple times especially last year most games we lost was with in one score we should keep building around him and keep the momentum going 🐻⬇️
@@lonwoolf7370 No he doesn't. Not by any measurable, but running the ball and that took a significant decrease this year as his passing ability never improved. He's the QB of the Bears and I can point to at least 10 games where he lost it for the team in the 4th Quarter.
@@michaelbrooks7859 bro in the last 20 games
Comp % - Lamar 66%, Justin 62%
Yards/att- Lamar 7.8, Justin 6.8
TD/Int - Lamar 26/8 , Justin 26-14
Rush yds- Lamar 1,032, Justin 1,376
Rush TDs - Lamar 6, Justin 9
@@michaelbrooks7859 of course Justin still needs time to develop but it’s not many QBs in the league that are better than Fields.. he’s putting up decent numbers with noting to work with.. give him a competent coach, decent running game and weapons to work with he can lead the bears to playoffs every year
Put the weapons around Justin
They said the same thing about Trevor Lawrence
At least Trevor has shown the ability to win a playoff game and if he hadn’t gotten hurt would’ve probably won another this year
“Y’all are looking through the keyhole, y’all gotta open up the door” THATS A BAR ACHO🗣️🗣️🗣️
best compliment
May---Flacco
McCarthy--Minshew
Caleb--Kyler
Pennix--Scott Mitchel
Jayden Daniel--D. Williams
Justin Firlds--Tyler Huntley
All due respect to women in ALL FACETS OF LIFE!
However, when you talk about Justin Fields as a QB in the MOST TEAM ORIENTED sport there is and criticize 1 player for the lack of wins for a team, you lose credibility for the sake of ratings, talking points, etc…problem is, this sort of false narrative gathers steam without much truth. The truth is you CAN judge Fields’ play by DJ2’s career high stats. In fact, JF1’s passer rating when targeting DJ2 was 146, which LEAD THE NFL among QB-WR duos with more than 50 attempts! This should show you how talented JF1 is and how with even decent weapons(to add to DJ2)and a consistently good OL, his play will be top tier. Mind you, DC’s around the league knew DJ2 was the Bears primary option, and for the most part could not stop this QB-WR duo…I repeat…they LED THE LEAGUE…146!
This chick talking about winning like Caleb Williams has won big games in college or something 😭 my Panthers had the worse record not the bears they got our number 1 pick
It’s a shame that shady doesn’t understand how important coaching and team is with the teams he has been on😊
The Bears organization is the problem stop making it a QB problem
They gonna do bryce young the same way when he's 10-28
To be fair Bryce shouldn’t have been the #1 pick
Jalen hurts is not better then Justin fields but joy and shady throw hurts on a peddle stool as if hurts ain't surrounded by all pros everywhere and number are still pedestrian !!!!
So the Qb is responsible to make tackles,create playbooks,punt, and kick
Ok
So we're saying qb wins matter the most? if so... they should sign jimmy g...he's a winner. Is jimmy go better than Justin herbert? Is ben Rothlesberger better than peyton manning? Like qb wins is a statistic but it is NOT an intellectually honest one. I trade fields for money reasons but this wins losses mess is getting tired. Seems like there's only one analyst on the panel here
24 qb’s have been drafted number 1 over all. Only Jim plunkett terry bradshaw, Payton manning, Troy Aikman and John Elway have won a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them! Stop picking all those generational talents and build the team! Yes Eli won one but was not drafted by the giants it was a trade! You think Caleb is on that level first ballot hall of fame????? Andrew luck never won cam newton never won Trevor looks bad. Odds are Caleb, if drafted might be great but will not win a Super Bowl with the team that drafts him as number 1! Why waste the pick??? Please respond and let’s have a conversation!
Of recent rookie QB starters: CJ Stroud, Purdy, Burrows, Lawrence, Murray- they all did fine.
Trevor Lawrence was horrible as a rookie… bye
@@southsidechasemills7296yeah and after 3 years has turned it around and has proven he can win games
@@tristingarcia4347 and look at his team 😂
@@JonathanSites his team is middle of the pack at best?
@@tristingarcia4347 is it better than the bears absolutely and they have more weapons for Trevor
Someone tell me how a player who hasn’t played a single down in the league. Is better than the guy who is the second fastest to throw for 5,000 yards and rush for 2,000 yards in the history of the league only the two time league MVP Lamar Jackson has done it faster in 33 games to his 35.
Joy u can't win games without a team around u !!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is Caleb Williams a better player more than likely than not, that’s just an assumption made to defend your position, he ain’t ever played a game in the NFL. Bo Callahan 2.0
This is dumb. Hw do any of you know CW will be successful in the NFL level.
These goofies are clowning JF and will be wrong. Joy is so idiot of touch with the real gm.
these people are waaay over-hyping Caleb Williams. 🤔🤨