Amber warning Storm Isha at High Willhays 80mph+ winds in the Hilleberg Nallo 2.
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- 21.01.2024
Storm Isha with amber weather warning for 80mph+ at High Willhays. First proper test for the Hilleberg Nallo 2, used double poles, delta pegs and triple pegged everywhere else. I was fully prepared for this and had taken all relevant precautions. I do of course realise this is not the “proper” place to pitch a tent, however I have the correct kit and experience to cope with it. This was a challenge for me and my kit, to see how I cope in deteriorating conditions and I never felt unsafe at any point.
The water coming in through the black vent material meant that the vestibule was unusable and through hanging my coat and gaiters behind it, prevent most of that water going into the inner, that being said I pitched the tent according to Hilleberg’s instructions. Apart from that, I feel the tent coped extremely well in 80mph winds, the winds did shift direction by the morning and was putting a bit more pressure on the main pole, if that hadn’t happened, I feel it could have coped with single poles. - Спорт
Having recently got an Abisko Lite 2 I pitched it a couple of times in my back garden to get the hang of it before hitting the mountains. The forecast was giving it fairly favourable so far as wind was concerned. Needless to say the weather didn't play ball and ended up blowing steadily in the high 30's gusting to almost twice that, my practice in the garden was worth nothing and after almost 30 minutes of batteling i had to give up through fear of destroying my new tent. I'm so glad you posted the full pitching video and i have picked up some great tips from it, like pegging the pole guy lines before fitting the poles helps stop the tent from flipping over 😉 I truly appreciate the video.
Good afternoon, thank you for the comment, I am glad this video was some way to help you. Bushman and Blue have some very good videos using the Abisko lite 2 in some serious conditions. Sorry to hear you had to cut your trip short, but sometimes that's necessary (you're safe), it is also about being confident and trusting your equipment, see as it was your first time with that tent, you are unaware of what it can handle and won't fully trust it. Hope you can get out there again soon, it's a cracking tent. Rowan.
@@RowanWildCamps Hopefully getting out again this week in more favourable conditions so I'll see how I get on. I've seen the Bushman videos and he pushes it hard but yours shows pitching in a lot of detail and is very helpful.
@@ExploreAboveAndBelow Good to hear, hope it is enjoyable. He really does and it is very high-quality stuff. That is nice to hear, thanks. Perhaps in the future if I remember I will film some more detailed shots of the pitching.
Insane! I'm glad you were prepared. Hilleburg should use this as advertising.
Hi there, I find that preparation is half the battle with these kinds of conditions, leaving no real room for error. That would be pretty spectacular, it has always made me wonder if Hillebergs 67mph tunnel tents video with the Nallo is actually 67mph, I only measured 50mph here, but it was definitely over 75mph throughout the night. Thanks for the nice comment. Rowan.
That was like watching 'The Blair witch Project 2 - Storm Camping' - You nutter... good watch tho :)
Good morning, yes it was a little bit mad. Always more fun in these tough conditions, I aim to do another one at some point. Thanks for the comment.
you have some balls ill give you that. Crazy 👍
Mad maybe, but thanks.
The fact that the tent was still standing after that is a testament to Hilleberg and also you pitching it correctly and anchoring those pegs in. Not a chance of staying dry in that weather because of the pressure of the wind forcing water in and under the tent. I’ve sprayed some fabsil over some key areas of mine, including the inner, which helps in these conditions. Glad you stuck it out and took the survival bag with you. Well done, ATB Jiffy 👍
Good evening, I too was surprised with how well the Nallo stood up to it and I believe other tent brands would have failed in these conditions. No not at all, my plan was to stay safe, not comfortabe :). I have been toying with the idea of glueing/stitching some old tarp/dry bag to the black vent material to reduce the amount of water being pushed through when it's windy, as I have also sprayed it. Me too, was certainly an experience.
Thank you for the kind remarks.
Rowan.
Fair play, that was properly minging! Hilleberg make fantastic tents and they do stand up to such bad weather. I once camped in sustained 85mph winds and didn't get much sleep that night. But it was dry, the rain must have made your night much harder. Thanks for making the video. 🙂
Thanks for watChing. They do indeed, I would not have wanted to try that in some other brands. Jeez, so pretty similar then, I probably got about an hour. One of the longest nights i've had in a tent.
I’ve yet to see a Hilleberg which doesn’t leak through the ziplocks in bad weather. It such a shame for such otherwise extremely good tents. Hilleberg make some of the strongest tents money can buy, but it does not matter how strong a tent is if it fails to keep you dry during the storm.
Me too, is the reason I sent my Soulo BL back. It is by far the strongest tent out there, but I would get soaked inside, was a really annoying problem that I kept trying to solve, with sealant and tenacious Tape. The Nallo isn't so bad if the wind speed is low enough you can go tail into the wind or the water just gets the vestibule wet. Until you get into really high speeds. Rowan.
Holy god, that was some nasty conditions. Feck me. I'm surpised the tent stayed up. I wouldn't have gotten much sleep due to worry that the tent would fail. Fair play to you.
It was a bit mad, but a really good challenge. And yes, I probably got about an hour of sleep, was in the tent for roughly 16 hours. But it stood strong, very impressed by it. Thanks.
Hey Rowan that was savage. Definitely one of the best storm camping videos I’ve seen in terms of not only wind but rain making it even more challenging. I was very impressed with nallo and I will add the vestibule guy line to mine. Although I don’t plan to use it in those conditions I would use my Jannu for such strong winds but sometimes you can get caught out. My friend Tom Heaney had a nammatj and I don’t believe it would do any better than nallo in those conditions - a bit more spacious but you can double pole nallo as you did and would be a lot stronger with that and still lighter than single poled 10.25mm pole nammatj. The pitching of tent was great to see and always so difficult in those winds, so fair play to you. There is a video on toms channel of me pitching Jannu in 40mph wind. It’s easier with clip system to build from ground up but the pressure on poles comes when fixing the final clips as wind pushed tent fabric which deforms the poles and can really stress them. All tents have their limits! I too like to push the limits of my equipment as long as you are prepared and have an exit plan it’s about challenging yourself. Great video 👍
Good evening, that's nice to hear. I was extremely impressed by it too, I hope yours serves you well, can't see why it shouldn't.
Yes, I have pretty much watched every one of Toms videos, you both put your gear to the absolute limit and show best practices in the meantime. In the past I thougth about swapping from the Nammatj to the Nallo, but as you say if you double pole there isn't much in it, so I will keep the Nallo.
I will certainly be revisting that video you did on the Jannu when mine hopefully arrives soon, will definetly be looking at them in detail. So thank you for those.
As do I, always let someone local know my expected time and locations, plus have plan B and C for pitching locations/routes and take a survival bag with me.
Cannot wait to get out again for the next challenge.
Thanks again for you comments, always appreciated.
Rowan.
Some brutal weather camping with that almost horizontal 'I will soak you' rain.
Those delta pegs are solid in boggy soil, otherwise double or even triple back staking pegs would have been needed.
Splendid tent performance.
It was, but quite an experience as well. Yes, I used both Delta pegs and triple pegging. Overall really pleased with the strength of the tent.
I gotta say I am myself pretty confident with my tents and my nammatj 2 can withstand quite some but what u re showing is pretty good ! Hardcore camping 😂
In hindsight I shold have gotten the Nammatj 2, however the Nallo is holding its own there. I was very pleased. Thanks.
Hi great vid thanks for posting. I noticed that you have added an additional guy line to the front hood like has been done on the gt by hilleberg. Is this a recommended option for the nallo to improve the performance of the tent?
What's been your experience in using this customisation?
Good evening, yes, I took inspiration from that plus Hilleberg mention it as an option. As for the performance, in these kinds of conditions I feel it made a difference and really helped support that main pole. I have been using it like this for quite a while now in various conditions, so I would say if you will regularly encounter 40mph+ winds then I would recommend it. Hope this helps.
Rowan.
Tunnel tents are no good for windy conditions ! The SQUINTERNET says so must be true lol , my favorite tent ever , better than the allak . I always pitch mine pointy end to the weather .
Had a nallo 2 , but for bad weather took the Tarra or Nammaj. Surprised how well your tent did. Have you tried pitching the rear into the wind?
Hello, the Tarra does seem an excellent tent, but from what I have seen, it too leaks, plus I feel it is a lot of tent just for me. In hindsight I perhaps should have gotten the Nammatj 2, however I reckon the Nallo would hold its own against it, and I do not regret choosing it. Yes, I have, generally I will always pitch it tail into the wind, makes cooking etc easier, plus when I take the dog, she sleeps in the vestibule. However, for this particular camp I followed Hillebergs advice of vestibule into the wind, and it does seem stronger that way too. I was very pleased with the Nallo holding up against those winds.
fair play for sticking that out ooft, was there any wear to the tent you noticed after this? do you feel the hood guyline was essential? mine doesnt have one on may have to add one
Good afternoon, only a cosmetic thing, were the poles had rubbed some of the gold colour off the them (as I double poled), other than that nothing I noticed. I would say for those wind speeds (anything over 45mph) I would recomend it, certainly did help the tent. Most Hilleberg tents have the option to add extra guy lines (there are 2 small tabs on the hood of the Nallo). Thanks for watching. Rowan.
I guess the question is: would a "black label"- Nallo have made a difference? That looked NASTY.
Well, I had it double poled and it seemed to take the weather very well. I am sure the stronger fabrics would help in the long run. It would be camparing this to the Nammatj 2, personally I don't see the Nallo doing any worse than the Nammatj in these conditions, assumming you double poled the Nallo or both had 10mm poles.
Nice video. I have a Nallo3 but did not know the tie option directly from the front vent hood. Is that a standard design from Hilleberg or did you customize yourself?
Good morning, so the 2 loops on the wired hood are optional guy out points, some other tents like the soulo, also have an extra guy out point. The guy line its self, is one I put on, slighty copied the Nammatj guy lines. The Nallo 3 also has that option, is very useful in strong winds, when it is not windy however you can just guy it to 1 of the main pole guy lin pegs to keep the door free. Hope this helps. Rowan.
Very nice. Thanks for the useful tip!
@@mawo3961 No worries, thank you.
Fair dues bro my guy
Hi what mapping sotftware did you use to get that OS Map in 3D. CHeers 🙂
Good afternoon, online OS Maps has a button on the bottom right hand corner giving you the option to switch to 3D or 2D. Then holding ctrl and left click on the mouse allows you to change the angle. Hope that helps. Rowan.
@@RowanWildCamps thanks!
was a bit concerned been on army exercises in that kind of weather guys went down quickly with hypothermia u can feel your lifeforce blowing away but well done its no shame to camp in a more sheltered spot
Hi there, I can see why. This is certainly not the sensible thing to do, however this was a challenge to see how I perform (plus my kit) when the situation is tough (not about shame or proving anything/ego) purely something for me. I never felt I was in any danger, and had made correct preparations/plans relevant to that camp.
Thanks. Rowan.
What is the reasoning for pitching front of tent into the wind?
That is the strongest way to pitch the Hilleberg Nallo 2, as well that is how Hilleberg recommends to pitch it. If the wind was not so high then I would go tail into wind, anything less that 40mph.
Like he said, it's the recommended way. It actually makes sense from an aerodynamics perspective. Most people think the lower/narrower end of tunnels should face the wind, but actually the opposite is true.
Cant beat the ol plastic orange survival bag when u wanna sleep in a puddle .. fair play to you
Am extremely glad I brought it with me due to the water landing on my sleping bag. I take it on most camps just in case. Thanks. Rowan.
given up you?
next week,years dont do that again camping in the windy!
Wrong tent for those conditions...You need a DCF pyramid tent.
Really don’t get all this silence nonsense
A pointless video