Can you do a video on designations in sci-fi? This is something that has been confusing me for a while. Anytime i watch anything explaining ships, weapons, vehicles, etc, the one question that comes to mind is "wtf do any of those numbers and letters even mean?"
@@GerardMenvussaA UA-camr by the name of Max0r did a review of AC7. In it he portrayed the main antagonist as Jeff Bezos, and the shields of the arsenal birds are paid for via subscription; so the only way to take out said arsenal bird is to wait for Jeff’s subscription to run out.
And despite being the most advanced nation in the entirety of Strangereal, having won more wars than every other country combined, having the biggest and most powerful military... They continue to get their super scifi super flying weapons stolen by radicals.
@@adamcheklat7387 You remember that joke with the world eraser button and that the paint of the "Don't push" sign has no time to dry before the button gets pushed?
“Alright, I heard someone ordered a package and it didn’t arrive on time. So I decided to come out here and deliver it myself, the package is *death* , *die now* “
5:24 "ok so high command is going to be disbanding our unit because i killed the base commander 9 days ago and have been pretending to commanding the military ever since...-WHO LEFT THE CONFETTI ON, count and the weird mute guy gets to be pardoned and enter the actual military because the are so effective at killing everybody i told them to provided that you succeed in your next mission,the rest of us are evacuating to tyler1 island"
It's basically a requirement that every arcade jet game has to have a protagonist that's: 1 mute 2 a psychotic maniac 3 probably autistic 4 ignorant towards the geneva convention 5 bloodless and untouched by physics
My theory about the Arsenal birds is that their shields detonated the combustible parts on missiles and aircraft, not a physical energy shield of sorts, and that's why the bullet from the Stonehenge penetrated it, it was solid metal bullet flying at mach 5, just the speed alone would do that damage, and since it had no combustible parts, the shield couldn't detonate it, it fits everything in the game.
At mach 5 atmospheric gases become plasma which are known to interfere with communication signals and would likely block or blunt the Arsenal Bird's shield effects, allowing the round through without detonating the round.
Thank you for mentioning these Absolute Units! Ace Combat as a series is full of this sort of wacky stuff, and it's awesome! Severely underrated, and an 11/10 job on representing it!
@@AsVt3wSh-zo3og It doesn't pretend to be realistic but takes everything so seriously that it feels realistic, that's the charm of Ace Combat. And also, this video specifically discussed Ace Combat 7 which is by far the most realistic looking Ace Combat game. If you look at Ace Combat 3 and 4, it's very obviously not realistic looking with their anime cutscenes.
I just love huge impractical eggs in one basket war machines. Wiping the floor with everything before Inevitably being destroyed by overwhelming numbers.
The Lighthouse itself could have been fitted with very powerful lasers along its length, that could have zapped any aircraft or missile that it got line of sight on. Those shields would have also been handy. And drone swarms could have been ready to launch from nearby protected hangers, with a small number always out flying doing recon patrols.
The issue with that is how the lighthouse, as a static structure, would always be vulnerable to ground assualt, and if a large scale conflict broke out around it it could risk massive damageto its foundations, causing the whole structure to collapse. A series of high yield tactical explosives could easily have ruined any defensive emplacements surrounding it, and a decently large ground force would have been sufficient to storm the lighthouse afterwards. I also think it was fitted with drone hangers and laser systems anyway, the arsenal birds were just considered the primary defensive measures, because killing the enemy way away from the important thing is better than killing the enemy at the important thing, in general.
True, but static defenses would be useless for the imperialist purpose that the Arsenal Birds were designed for. The US Navy could rely on land-based airfields instead of using aircraft carriers if their goal was JUST to defend American soil, but it's not, so they don't.
Putting weapons on a thing designed for peace and to retrieve resources for the world would make every country see you as The Bad Guy, and you'd lose the plausible deniability of it being a defensive/retaliatory war. It becomes clear that you just want to monopolize the elevator and probably always did. Instead of just being you versus one country - which you're still losing against - it becomes you versus the rest of the planet. And we've seen like four times how that worked out for the Belkans.
The Arsenal Bird's cinematic intro in the game always gives me goosebumps. First your hear the ominous droning music, then you see it slowly come out from behind a distant cloud like some angel of vengeance. Then everything in the mission goes to shit.
I'm infuriated that it took me a MONTH to find this. You've all outdone yourselves with this review. Here's to hoping for more Ace Combat reviews, and possibly a return of the Arsenal Bird!
I cannot understate the nostalgic joy that the Stonehenge mission brought me. I was *almost* sorry for also being responsible for blowing it up 20 years earlier in AC04. :P
Good one bro. The Arsenal bird is interesting version of "flying aircraft carrier", wich answers the most problematic questions about the design: 1) propulsion and power/fuel - solution picked is sufficient, although nuclear power might be better (number of smaller nuclear generators onboard, wich can be switched for newly fueled (or completely different principle) power module of the same shape - say fusion would be discovered in a decade after lift of, and can be utilized when needed). 2) how to take off with aircraft much bigger than all runways on the world (only "better"---more advantageous to the machine and users--- solution i can think off is VTOL concept). 3) how to replenish the equipment/ammunition, wich can not be produced "indefinetly" midflight 4) how to connect/park/stack the fighter-drones on the mother/plane, ... 4)a) altough IF the fighter-drones are connected SIDEWAYS (i.e. turned one side up, one side down), the wing could be twice (or in minimum one third more than) the original number... Me personally, would introduce one design feature, that might be of help with the "self repair" part, especially of the engines and plane surface - If the engines are housed in detachable streemlined pylons, wich can move on the surface of the airplane, you can simply "disconnect" whole engine, transport it to the repair facility, and after being repaired transport it back to the bird (wich would "reshuffle" the engine pods again, to gain optimal thrust and weight distribution with changed number of engines onboard. I mean - it is impossible with engine using fuel (because the fuel lines would mean extreme failure point), but when you need only supply electricity to the engine, it can be perfectly supplied during moving ON the superstructure (and locked to it befor it starts to proppel the plane). And the same system could be utilized for b) smaller repair bots (shaped to have extremely small airdrag) moving on fixed grid of rails situated OUTSIDE (on top of) the mothership, ment to cutt off the dammaged segment, transport modular replacement parts to the dammaged area and repair the dammages by reconnecting the newly replaced segment to the whole. Same robots could be used to do smaller repairs of dammaged fighter-drones, basically OUTSIDE the mother/plane. c) said "surface train carts" can be used for small local sensor clusters and/or point defense lasers, wich would MOVE on the surface of the mothership, to maximize the sensor clenliness and/or firepower in needed direction.
I love Ace Combat games, silly storylines, amazing graphics and music, blasting hundreds of enemies in the newest or classic or futuristic aircraft... Love it
Seems to me that one could develop a fuel system that didn’t require manual refueling. Assuming an atmosphere that has plenty of oxygen and water vapor, some combination of electrolysis or similar hydrogen and oxygen harvesting should be able to create one or more types of compressed Fuel for the drones. That’s taking advantage of the endless supply of electricity to ensure the drones are fully fueled. The only downside of this being that there would surely be some delay between using fuel and replacing it, so if you continually attacked, the drones would eventually run out of fuel while waiting for additional fuel to be manufactured on the flying ship.
Could work but seeing as the supply shuttles also carry ammo, engine lubricant & probably spare parts there may not have been enough space for an electrolysis plant & storage tanks that could feed 80 drones so it was more practical to simply use that space for a bigger supply pod because the arsenal bird would have been rendered combat ineffective after the loss of it's supply base regardless if it was self sufficient fuel wise or not.
@@veryconcernedbread did wonder about the supply of munitions for the Arsenal bird. Is that part of the fuel transfer when it gets resupplied? Alternatively, maybe all of the weaponry should be based on electrical systems. Of course, if it was far enough into the future that you had something a Star Trek transporter, then you could just manufacture whatever you need on the vehicle itself, and again all you need would be energy. But short of that, if you need physical munitions, you definitely need some kind of resupply run
@@EliotHochberg well it is primarily a drone carrier so it needs to rearm it's drones, plus it mostly relies on Air-to-air missiles, CIWS & long range airburst missiles to ward off air attacks with only the second one having direct energy weapons so running out of ammo is very much a concern. Plus, except for the insane superweapons born out of a lack of ability to mass-produce nuclear weapons the strangereal world is only a couple decades ahead of us.
Has anybody who knows anything about missile logistics? Will tell you. A weapon that has one way of being reloaded is a weapon that’s going to jam 90% of the time. You don’t need to fight these things. You just need to take out their supplies and do significant damage to the combat capability. Depending on how long their engines can last without lubricant, you have a Clock for when this thing is going to smashing into the ground or at least become combat significantly less effective.
I don't know, i feels like the wingspan to be 1100 meter is a typo. When I played the game, it is not as big as you thought. I believe it will be only around 2 times as big as B-2 bomber or aroind 110 meter.
The Arsenal Birds are just the latest in a long line of flying fortresses in the series. You've got the Hraesvelgr from Zero, the Arkbird from 5, the Aigaion and its escorts from 6, and two or three more I'm probably forgetting from earlier games and side stories.
It's a really interesting series, and the superweapons are almost practical. The older games may be difficult to acquire/play, but I recommend getting AC7 if you can get it on sale.
The Railgun wouldn't need to penetrate the Energy Shield... It was mentioned earlier in the video that the shield is not kept active all the time and is only energized when an incoming attack is detected...which means as long as the Arsenal Bird doesn't know it's under attack, the shield is down and it was also mentioned it takes a minute or so to charge the generators and raise the shield...given how fast a Railgun round flies, it will hit the bird before it even realizes it's under attack and if that round is large, fast and accurate enough, it will destroy the Arsenal Bird before it can activate the shield by destroying the Microwave Power Receiver that powers the entire Arsenal Bird and it's Shield... If I was planning the attack, I'd have a minimum of 2 Railguns, each would be aimed at 1 Arsenal Bird and both would fire simultaneously so one bird isn't warned of the attack by the destruction of the other bird and raises it's shield before I can shoot it...that first shot would destroy the Power Receiver, preventing the shield from being powered up and also shutting the engines down so I don't need to fire any more shots since the Arsenal Birds will now be forced to glide and no aircraft of that size can stay airborne for long before crashing to the ground (or water depending on where it was in it's orbit when shot)...the fact I wouldn't need to take a second shot means the chances of anyone figuring out where I was when I took my first shot (and carpet bombing the area with the still functioning combat drones, the Arsenal Birds may be doomed to destruction at that point, but are still MORE than dangerous enough to take out their killers before that final death) is highly unlikely...tracking weapons fire back to the launcher is very difficult with only one shot taken... If I could arrange for more than 2 Railguns, then the additional guns would shoot at the weapons storage pods brought up by the resupply shuttles to hopefully cause a detonation of either the drone missile magazine and/or drone fuel bunker which would tear the Arsenal Bird apart and cause it to crash (in MANY pieces) before being able to launch any drones... 2 Railguns are the minimum needed to kill both Arsenal Birds, more would simply speed up the process...
Imagine taking the time and expense to build a multi billion dollar war machine with cutting edge tech, only for it to get shot down by an unhinged F18 pilot that decided to strap a railgun to his plane that day for shits and giggles
The music during this boss fight is amazing, and yeah the design is cool and all but its not the reason why it is one of my favorite missions in the game, its the music, its all the music, like, all of it The name of the music is Daredevil for those looking for it
came for Max0r jokes in the comments was not disappointed. ALSO the Banshee from Yukikaze come one you got to admit there preity dope and need a video if you haven't seen Yukikaze its on TubiTV.
It’d be interesting if someday you did a breakdown of the spacecraft from Larry Niven’s “Known Space” stories. Or really just the vintage ones (From 1965 to 1980) since nothing he wrote after Ringworld Engineers added much to the mythos, and all the cool, fun stuff happened in the first 15 years (And most of that in the first 5 or 6) The ships are, in my opinion, really interesting and unique and the FTL system they use is not unique except in the way it affects the human nervous system and vision.
Knocker used the nickname "Big Baby Huey" to refer to an Arsenal Bird in Two-pronged Strategy, which is a reference to the cartoon character Baby Huey.
Since you're doing Ace Combat breakdowns, can you do Project Wingman breakdowns as well? They have stuff called Cordium that powers airships and fighter jets and rail guns and nukes that cause planet wide destruction when fired at the Ring of Fire.
This thing reminds me of the Lockheed CL-1201 one of my favorite concepts from cold war era engineers. I'd honestly be surprised if the game designers didn't take some inspiration from the plans.
I feel like attacking the resupply facilities would have been a more robust plan to bring the birds down. I haven't actually played the game so maybe there was some time pressure that I don't know about requiring the super-planes to be destroyed quickly, but if not, cutting their supply chain would eventually lead to them either breaking down and falling out of the sky on their own or it would force the Eruseans to expend significant resources creating and protecting an alternate method of resupply. The most powerful weapon in the world is just a really expensive lawn ornament if it runs out of engine grease.
The thing is, Arsenal Bird will fly forever. Space elevator provide unlimited energy to the Arsenal Bird via microwave (wireless charging). The resupply ship only supply new drones and defensive weaponry such as HELIOS missile.
This would be easier to accomplish than an airborne aircraft carrier. Not that it would be easy, just easier. I should build one and get some of those sweet Government™ contracts!
Can you do a video on designations in sci-fi? This is something that has been confusing me for a while. Anytime i watch anything explaining ships, weapons, vehicles, etc, the one question that comes to mind is "wtf do any of those numbers and letters even mean?"
Short answer: whatever the author wants them to mean. But in general, outside of ship classifications, the numbers and letters can vary from "a short way to explain the design", like the Twin Ion Engine figther series, or TIE fighter, a nod to real life vehicles or weapons, like Titanfall's/Apex's P2019/P2020 with the IRL pistol M1911, or just some techno babble for flavor or a funny inside joke
Fascinating designs. Though I doubt their status as superweapons if they couldn't stop the one thing they're meant to defend from falling to extremists in the first place.
I knew it, that microwave power system was going to be a single point of failure. Pity the arsenal bird wasn't equipped with backup batteries. Wouldn't be combat effective, but might have enough power for evasive manoeuvres or emergency landing.
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LOl I was one of the people who mentioned this before.. nice inclusion.
Nice video as always!
Can you do a video on designations in sci-fi? This is something that has been confusing me for a while. Anytime i watch anything explaining ships, weapons, vehicles, etc, the one question that comes to mind is "wtf do any of those numbers and letters even mean?"
The arsenal birds were invincible until they realized force fields were a subscription service.
Ah yes, the lobotomized sentient editing software
“When I said cancel all subscriptions, I didn’t mean my own as well”
I feel like I am missing out on a good joke. What's up with subscription services?
@@GerardMenvussa look up "Totally accurate ace combat 7"
@@GerardMenvussaA UA-camr by the name of Max0r did a review of AC7. In it he portrayed the main antagonist as Jeff Bezos, and the shields of the arsenal birds are paid for via subscription; so the only way to take out said arsenal bird is to wait for Jeff’s subscription to run out.
"We heard you liked drones. So we put combat drones in your combat drones!"
Other people call those things missiles.
@@steemlenn8797
We put suicide drones on your combat drones which we then attached to your super combat drone
And two small drones beside each combat drones 😂😂😂😂
'We use combat drones in combat drones. Tha'ts 50% more drone!'
You know Oseans, they love their scifi white birds
Now if only they could keep them from getting stolen...
@@Pantsthief-gk8vu Bu...but freedom. We can't have such safety regulations in our high-tech quasi military vessels. We are not filthy Yuktobanians.
And despite being the most advanced nation in the entirety of Strangereal, having won more wars than every other country combined, having the biggest and most powerful military...
They continue to get their super scifi super flying weapons stolen by radicals.
Why not install self-destruct buttons?
@@adamcheklat7387 You remember that joke with the world eraser button and that the paint of the "Don't push" sign has no time to dry before the button gets pushed?
“Alright, I heard someone ordered a package and it didn’t arrive on time. So I decided to come out here and deliver it myself, the package is *death* , *die now* “
"You will now die. Cease to be."
Ever since I first saw that video (I hesitate to actually call it a review), this is what I immediately think of whenever I see them.
5:24
"ok so high command is going to be disbanding our unit because i killed the base commander 9 days ago and have been pretending to commanding the military ever since...-WHO LEFT THE CONFETTI ON,
count and the weird mute guy gets to be pardoned and enter the actual military because the are so effective at killing everybody i told them to provided that you succeed in your next mission,the rest of us are evacuating to tyler1 island"
@@whyjnot420 it's not just a review, its _the_ review of ac7
"Only a total madman could bring down the arsenal bird"
I mean... technically thats what happened. Trigger definetly is a madman
It's basically a requirement that every arcade jet game has to have a protagonist that's:
1 mute
2 a psychotic maniac
3 probably autistic
4 ignorant towards the geneva convention
5 bloodless and untouched by physics
>Osean aerospace engineers when you ask them to design a weapon system that isn’t tailor-made to be a video game boss battle
My theory about the Arsenal birds is that their shields detonated the combustible parts on missiles and aircraft, not a physical energy shield of sorts, and that's why the bullet from the Stonehenge penetrated it, it was solid metal bullet flying at mach 5, just the speed alone would do that damage, and since it had no combustible parts, the shield couldn't detonate it, it fits everything in the game.
Stonehenge rounds contain explosives. But the speed difference let it punch through anyway.
bullets dont penetrate it though, and you can ram into the shield
At mach 5 atmospheric gases become plasma which are known to interfere with communication signals and would likely block or blunt the Arsenal Bird's shield effects, allowing the round through without detonating the round.
Stonehenge has a muzzle velocity of six kilometers per second.
A few LOSATs might be able to down it.
I love the fact that the devs came up with the explanation that they used the mass driver and SRBs to get the arsenal birds in the air
I hope you do more Ace Combat breakdowns! The universe of AC is full of rich lore and very amazing designs of various types.
Should do some really really deep cuts and do Warship Gunner 2 Boss vehicles for the 4 or 5 people who remember that game
Thank you for mentioning these Absolute Units! Ace Combat as a series is full of this sort of wacky stuff, and it's awesome! Severely underrated, and an 11/10 job on representing it!
The thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in
I understood that reference.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
I've got cockney neck
That's it all of your Amazon prime subscriptions are now cancelled.
You fool, you absolute buffoon!
Your shield is also a subscription!
Wait, when I said cancel everyone's subscriptions, I didn't mean my own.
Knew this design would be a icon ever since the very first trailer
Ngl nice to see a more or less plausible superweapon in ace combat for once lmao
Seeing all the Max0r references is making me smile so hard. Thanks for covering these beautiful machines. Looking forward to the next video!
Yeah, always good to see second-hand memes from people who've never played the games instead of memes actually from the games. Ha.
@@AsVt3wSh-zo3ogwhy do you think people never played the games ?
My favorite thing about Ace Combat is it doesnt even pretend to be realistic. Its wild and silly and thats why its so great
It doesn't even pretend to be realistic? It looks photo-realistic to me. I didn't know we were looking at a cell-shaded anime/cartoon game.
No, but they at least tried to make things realistic. Rectennas and microwave power transmission is a thing IRL.
@@AsVt3wSh-zo3og It doesn't pretend to be realistic but takes everything so seriously that it feels realistic, that's the charm of Ace Combat. And also, this video specifically discussed Ace Combat 7 which is by far the most realistic looking Ace Combat game. If you look at Ace Combat 3 and 4, it's very obviously not realistic looking with their anime cutscenes.
ACE COMBAT MENTIONED LETS GOOOO WTF IS A SIMPLE PLOTLINE
I never realized how kerbal the Arsenal birds' launch process was!
Forget saving Harling, we need to save Jeb.
I just love huge impractical eggs in one basket war machines. Wiping the floor with everything before Inevitably being destroyed by overwhelming numbers.
Until to make it even funnier, one gets downed by one particularly angry pilot lmao
Wow, been a while since Spacedock did a craft breakdown. Nice to see one again!
Was a great fight. Bringing Stonehenge online to pop one was also great XD
The arsenal bird & the alicorn is the only ace combat bosses managed to shoot me down in 20+ years playing ace combat games.
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Jeff bezos won't like you exposing the secrets of his mobile amazon warehouses
That artwork of the Arsenal Bird being launched off the Mass driver goes so hard
The Maxor references are amazing
The Lighthouse itself could have been fitted with very powerful lasers along its length, that could have zapped any aircraft or missile that it got line of sight on.
Those shields would have also been handy.
And drone swarms could have been ready to launch from nearby protected hangers, with a small number always out flying doing recon patrols.
The issue with that is how the lighthouse, as a static structure, would always be vulnerable to ground assualt, and if a large scale conflict broke out around it it could risk massive damageto its foundations, causing the whole structure to collapse. A series of high yield tactical explosives could easily have ruined any defensive emplacements surrounding it, and a decently large ground force would have been sufficient to storm the lighthouse afterwards.
I also think it was fitted with drone hangers and laser systems anyway, the arsenal birds were just considered the primary defensive measures, because killing the enemy way away from the important thing is better than killing the enemy at the important thing, in general.
True, but static defenses would be useless for the imperialist purpose that the Arsenal Birds were designed for. The US Navy could rely on land-based airfields instead of using aircraft carriers if their goal was JUST to defend American soil, but it's not, so they don't.
Putting weapons on a thing designed for peace and to retrieve resources for the world would make every country see you as The Bad Guy, and you'd lose the plausible deniability of it being a defensive/retaliatory war. It becomes clear that you just want to monopolize the elevator and probably always did. Instead of just being you versus one country - which you're still losing against - it becomes you versus the rest of the planet. And we've seen like four times how that worked out for the Belkans.
can you do the alicorn?
If I did would I have to add crisp white sheets to the utilities section of the stats?
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
@@hoojiwana don't worry I got images of it and the stats if you have any socals like twt I will share it to ya
@@hoojiwana Weaknesses: Dirty Boots
@@hoojiwana sorry thought you ment the stats but no yiu wouldn't have to that's captin Torres problem
Arsenal Bird is still one of the best named fictional aircraft ever, the name is imposing, dangerous to its enemy yet is inspiring to those it serves.
I really did miss the breakdowns, glad to have the format back in some form
Two beautiful machines from one of my favourite games
The Arsenal Bird's cinematic intro in the game always gives me goosebumps. First your hear the ominous droning music, then you see it slowly come out from behind a distant cloud like some angel of vengeance. Then everything in the mission goes to shit.
Ace Combat content, I love it!
*madman*.
Trigger, dancing with the angels.
Can we hope for series about airborne carriers? There are so many option to choose from.
Bruh I recently got into ace combat and now see this, great timing
I'm infuriated that it took me a MONTH to find this. You've all outdone yourselves with this review. Here's to hoping for more Ace Combat reviews, and possibly a return of the Arsenal Bird!
PROJECT WINGMAN
I love this game series I hope to see more break down for all the amazing ace combat vehicles
Its about time you did a video on Ace Combat.
Always love the soundtrack to these games
Watching the first arsenal bird emerge from the clouds for the first time was life changing I had never seen anything like that before
What’s scary is Lockheed is reviving plans for a fly aircraft carrier from the 1950s……but with drones instead of manned vehicles
I cannot understate the nostalgic joy that the Stonehenge mission brought me. I was *almost* sorry for also being responsible for blowing it up 20 years earlier in AC04. :P
Good one bro.
The Arsenal bird is interesting version of "flying aircraft carrier", wich answers the most problematic questions about the design:
1) propulsion and power/fuel - solution picked is sufficient, although nuclear power might be better (number of smaller nuclear generators onboard, wich can be switched for newly fueled (or completely different principle) power module of the same shape - say fusion would be discovered in a decade after lift of, and can be utilized when needed).
2) how to take off with aircraft much bigger than all runways on the world (only "better"---more advantageous to the machine and users--- solution i can think off is VTOL concept).
3) how to replenish the equipment/ammunition, wich can not be produced "indefinetly" midflight
4) how to connect/park/stack the fighter-drones on the mother/plane, ...
4)a) altough IF the fighter-drones are connected SIDEWAYS (i.e. turned one side up, one side down), the wing could be twice (or in minimum one third more than) the original number...
Me personally, would introduce one design feature, that might be of help with the "self repair" part, especially of the engines and plane surface - If the engines are housed in detachable streemlined pylons, wich can move on the surface of the airplane, you can simply "disconnect" whole engine, transport it to the repair facility, and after being repaired transport it back to the bird (wich would "reshuffle" the engine pods again, to gain optimal thrust and weight distribution with changed number of engines onboard. I mean - it is impossible with engine using fuel (because the fuel lines would mean extreme failure point), but when you need only supply electricity to the engine, it can be perfectly supplied during moving ON the superstructure (and locked to it befor it starts to proppel the plane). And the same system could be utilized for
b) smaller repair bots (shaped to have extremely small airdrag) moving on fixed grid of rails situated OUTSIDE (on top of) the mothership, ment to cutt off the dammaged segment, transport modular replacement parts to the dammaged area and repair the dammages by reconnecting the newly replaced segment to the whole. Same robots could be used to do smaller repairs of dammaged fighter-drones, basically OUTSIDE the mother/plane.
c) said "surface train carts" can be used for small local sensor clusters and/or point defense lasers, wich would MOVE on the surface of the mothership, to maximize the sensor clenliness and/or firepower in needed direction.
in a similar topic to this, i think a breakdown of the garuda class from zeta gundam would be really interesting
I enjoy all of Spacedock videos
Finally some Ace Combat content
I love Ace Combat games, silly storylines, amazing graphics and music, blasting hundreds of enemies in the newest or classic or futuristic aircraft... Love it
Seems to me that one could develop a fuel system that didn’t require manual refueling.
Assuming an atmosphere that has plenty of oxygen and water vapor, some combination of electrolysis or similar hydrogen and oxygen harvesting should be able to create one or more types of compressed Fuel for the drones. That’s taking advantage of the endless supply of electricity to ensure the drones are fully fueled.
The only downside of this being that there would surely be some delay between using fuel and replacing it, so if you continually attacked, the drones would eventually run out of fuel while waiting for additional fuel to be manufactured on the flying ship.
Could work but seeing as the supply shuttles also carry ammo, engine lubricant & probably spare parts there may not have been enough space for an electrolysis plant & storage tanks that could feed 80 drones so it was more practical to simply use that space for a bigger supply pod because the arsenal bird would have been rendered combat ineffective after the loss of it's supply base regardless if it was self sufficient fuel wise or not.
@@veryconcernedbread did wonder about the supply of munitions for the Arsenal bird. Is that part of the fuel transfer when it gets resupplied?
Alternatively, maybe all of the weaponry should be based on electrical systems. Of course, if it was far enough into the future that you had something a Star Trek transporter, then you could just manufacture whatever you need on the vehicle itself, and again all you need would be energy.
But short of that, if you need physical munitions, you definitely need some kind of resupply run
@@EliotHochberg well it is primarily a drone carrier so it needs to rearm it's drones, plus it mostly relies on Air-to-air missiles, CIWS & long range airburst missiles to ward off air attacks with only the second one having direct energy weapons so running out of ammo is very much a concern. Plus, except for the insane superweapons born out of a lack of ability to mass-produce nuclear weapons the strangereal world is only a couple decades ahead of us.
Would be really cool if you did a breakdown of some more of the Ace Combat aircraft, or maybe some Warship Gunner 2 boss ships
Yeah... especially Musspellheim or Are-A-Ham-A-Key?
Has anybody who knows anything about missile logistics? Will tell you.
A weapon that has one way of being reloaded is a weapon that’s going to jam 90% of the time.
You don’t need to fight these things. You just need to take out their supplies and do significant damage to the combat capability.
Depending on how long their engines can last without lubricant, you have a Clock for when this thing is going to smashing into the ground or at least become combat significantly less effective.
istg this channel never ceases to make me wanna hop on space engineers
I would love more ace combat breakdowns!!!
Nice Video.
Since you covered the Arsenal Bird, could you maybe do a breakdown of the "Agaion" from Ace Combat 6 in the future ??
Could you do a video on exoskeletons, like extra mechanical arms and back mounted guns in sci-fi.
You can never escape the Max0r references.
You have no idea how long I've been waiting for this video..
It’s to see some Ace Combat content, thanks.
I don't know, i feels like the wingspan to be 1100 meter is a typo. When I played the game, it is not as big as you thought. I believe it will be only around 2 times as big as B-2 bomber or aroind 110 meter.
I loved these things as a concept.
I had no Idea ACE combat had such cool… Things! 😮 Please Tell us more of This Universe!
The Arsenal Birds are just the latest in a long line of flying fortresses in the series. You've got the Hraesvelgr from Zero, the Arkbird from 5, the Aigaion and its escorts from 6, and two or three more I'm probably forgetting from earlier games and side stories.
It's a really interesting series, and the superweapons are almost practical. The older games may be difficult to acquire/play, but I recommend getting AC7 if you can get it on sale.
In the 12 century of Strangreal...
Yeah, an arcade flight game has a storyline dating back to the f--ing 12th century.
The Railgun wouldn't need to penetrate the Energy Shield...
It was mentioned earlier in the video that the shield is not kept active all the time and is only energized when an incoming attack is detected...which means as long as the Arsenal Bird doesn't know it's under attack, the shield is down and it was also mentioned it takes a minute or so to charge the generators and raise the shield...given how fast a Railgun round flies, it will hit the bird before it even realizes it's under attack and if that round is large, fast and accurate enough, it will destroy the Arsenal Bird before it can activate the shield by destroying the Microwave Power Receiver that powers the entire Arsenal Bird and it's Shield...
If I was planning the attack, I'd have a minimum of 2 Railguns, each would be aimed at 1 Arsenal Bird and both would fire simultaneously so one bird isn't warned of the attack by the destruction of the other bird and raises it's shield before I can shoot it...that first shot would destroy the Power Receiver, preventing the shield from being powered up and also shutting the engines down so I don't need to fire any more shots since the Arsenal Birds will now be forced to glide and no aircraft of that size can stay airborne for long before crashing to the ground (or water depending on where it was in it's orbit when shot)...the fact I wouldn't need to take a second shot means the chances of anyone figuring out where I was when I took my first shot (and carpet bombing the area with the still functioning combat drones, the Arsenal Birds may be doomed to destruction at that point, but are still MORE than dangerous enough to take out their killers before that final death) is highly unlikely...tracking weapons fire back to the launcher is very difficult with only one shot taken...
If I could arrange for more than 2 Railguns, then the additional guns would shoot at the weapons storage pods brought up by the resupply shuttles to hopefully cause a detonation of either the drone missile magazine and/or drone fuel bunker which would tear the Arsenal Bird apart and cause it to crash (in MANY pieces) before being able to launch any drones...
2 Railguns are the minimum needed to kill both Arsenal Birds, more would simply speed up the process...
Imagine taking the time and expense to build a multi billion dollar war machine with cutting edge tech, only for it to get shot down by an unhinged F18 pilot that decided to strap a railgun to his plane that day for shits and giggles
Or a Mig-21 with extra gun pods
I guess going down to an SU-57 with laser pods doesn’t sound too bad after all.
@@MandalorV7 my favorite plane those pulse lasers are nasty but not that good against the Alicorn
Something something "Trigger is different".
After 5 years
The Lockheed Mart drone boomerang is finally on space dock
That last saturation attack eas amazing to play
The music during this boss fight is amazing, and yeah the design is cool and all but its not the reason why it is one of my favorite missions in the game, its the music, its all the music, like, all of it
The name of the music is Daredevil for those looking for it
People interested in hearing the music should look up "project aces daredevil". It'll be the first result.
Daredevil
@@Groza_Dallocort that's the name of the banger, nice pointed!
@@WeakestBrazilianMaleironically the game was delayed because this mission didn’t have a score to go with it
@@DylanDevlin-oq2fz oh really? I actually didn't know about that!
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I should look into ace combat! Thats some awesome hard sci fi stuff that I’ve only seen discussed on SFIA
came for Max0r jokes in the comments was not disappointed.
ALSO the Banshee from Yukikaze come one you got to admit there preity dope and need a video if you haven't seen Yukikaze its on TubiTV.
And It was all because of Belka.
It's always because of Belka.
Sorry, meant to say "North Osea Grunder Industries" of course.
It'd be cool (and very democratic) if you guys did a breakdown of the Super Destroyers from Helldivers.
Fascinating. Thank you.
It’d be interesting if someday you did a breakdown of the spacecraft from Larry Niven’s “Known Space” stories. Or really just the vintage ones (From 1965 to 1980) since nothing he wrote after Ringworld Engineers added much to the mythos, and all the cool, fun stuff happened in the first 15 years (And most of that in the first 5 or 6)
The ships are, in my opinion, really interesting and unique and the FTL system they use is not unique except in the way it affects the human nervous system and vision.
Knocker used the nickname "Big Baby Huey" to refer to an Arsenal Bird in Two-pronged Strategy, which is a reference to the cartoon character Baby Huey.
how effective would the ship be if mechanic johnny expanded it with galvanised square steel and borrowed expansion screws to add more weapons?
Have you guys done P1112 Aigaion from AC6?
This is AWACS Long Caster. All callsigns, check in.
This is POOPOO2 standing by.
I ate your sandwich.
"You mean AWACS Blind Man? Long Caster, how the Hell did you not see this thing coming 2000NM out?"
There's one strategy that's proven 100% successful at taking down an Arsenal Bird: Follow Trigger.
Since you're doing Ace Combat breakdowns, can you do Project Wingman breakdowns as well? They have stuff called Cordium that powers airships and fighter jets and rail guns and nukes that cause planet wide destruction when fired at the Ring of Fire.
This thing reminds me of the Lockheed CL-1201 one of my favorite concepts from cold war era engineers. I'd honestly be surprised if the game designers didn't take some inspiration from the plans.
I love how many Max0r references there are in these comments.
That video got me into Ace Combat.
It is an absolute classic.
I feel like attacking the resupply facilities would have been a more robust plan to bring the birds down. I haven't actually played the game so maybe there was some time pressure that I don't know about requiring the super-planes to be destroyed quickly, but if not, cutting their supply chain would eventually lead to them either breaking down and falling out of the sky on their own or it would force the Eruseans to expend significant resources creating and protecting an alternate method of resupply. The most powerful weapon in the world is just a really expensive lawn ornament if it runs out of engine grease.
The thing is, Arsenal Bird will fly forever. Space elevator provide unlimited energy to the Arsenal Bird via microwave (wireless charging). The resupply ship only supply new drones and defensive weaponry such as HELIOS missile.
Have you ever done/ thought of doing star citizen ships? im a fan of the game and your channel and would love to hear your opinion on some of them
Excellent breakdown 👌
Looking at AB again, didn't realized there's some similarities from the systems Arsenal Birds has with the weapon used in during Aurelian-Leasath War
Suggestion, Take a look at Nebulous Fleet Command Ship designs, Nebulous is an fleet managment/Combat RTS
Could you look at War of The Worlds Tripods
Could Spacedock possibly do a breakdown of the Aigaion from Ace Combat 6?
Is that what the space elevator was called? i legit thought the war was over a actual lighthouse.
How the heck did those damn Eruseans even manage to get through the two Arsenals into the lighthouse
The Arsenal Bird and the Art Book makes me wish I got the collectors edition
Some times I forget how silly Ace Combat is with their "Sci" Fi
imagine being a mechanic needing to be flown to one of these to fix something
This would be easier to accomplish than an airborne aircraft carrier. Not that it would be easy, just easier.
I should build one and get some of those sweet Government™ contracts!
Would love to see more content on Strangereal tech.
Can you do a video on designations in sci-fi? This is something that has been confusing me for a while. Anytime i watch anything explaining ships, weapons, vehicles, etc, the one question that comes to mind is "wtf do any of those numbers and letters even mean?"
Short answer: whatever the author wants them to mean.
But in general, outside of ship classifications, the numbers and letters can vary from "a short way to explain the design", like the Twin Ion Engine figther series, or TIE fighter, a nod to real life vehicles or weapons, like Titanfall's/Apex's P2019/P2020 with the IRL pistol M1911, or just some techno babble for flavor or a funny inside joke
Fascinating designs. Though I doubt their status as superweapons if they couldn't stop the one thing they're meant to defend from falling to extremists in the first place.
Kinda funny starting with a space elevator using micro waves to transfer power and an impenetrable field. Sounded like something more from gundam 00
Can you do a video on airships that can carry aircraft fighters for a deployment type scenario.
What about those dieselpunk airplanes or battleship airships in the skies.
I knew it, that microwave power system was going to be a single point of failure. Pity the arsenal bird wasn't equipped with backup batteries. Wouldn't be combat effective, but might have enough power for evasive manoeuvres or emergency landing.
Well that is very cool concept
Also, who in here recited "long rang strategic strike group" *ten times* without interruption?