Plugin Play - Deres by W.A. Productions: Secret Cheap soothe 2 Alternative?

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

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  • @palebluedotstudios
    @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +4

    Is this an almost-free alternative to soothe 2? Let me know in the comments below!

  • @MattStevens9824
    @MattStevens9824 5 місяців тому +9

    Excellent review and demo, as always! Thank you for the dive! That swish/ringing sound associated with the resonance sweep was hard to pin down at first but the plugin tamed it effectively. This is a winner at this price point! I hope WA productions displays the perceived resonances more clearly in the GUI on a future update.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you! Yes, I agree: I meant to mention that I though the frequency analyzer wasn't very useful, i.e., you can barely see if there is any gain reduction at all, or what the "problem" frequencies are. Good call!

  • @mainsailsound983
    @mainsailsound983 5 місяців тому +14

    This is the best resonance plugin I've ever tried. (And I have them all, including Soothe 2). I was able to fix a problem master in two seconds. Great recommendation, thank you!!!

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 5 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      So great to hear! That was my experience too. It worked instantly on my guitar tracks (as you heard). Looking forward to experimenting with it more! Cheers!

    • @mainsailsound983
      @mainsailsound983 5 місяців тому

      @@esahm373 yea yea, I know it's not as versatile as soothe but it worked for me so quickly in my particular scenario that I had to add it to the tool chest

  • @dahlhousestudios
    @dahlhousestudios 5 місяців тому +5

    Once that resonance was soloed, I couldn't un-hear it ever again when bypassed! Wicked plug

  • @keithdunwoody1302
    @keithdunwoody1302 5 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis. Love the comparison with Soothe. This plugin definitely punches above its weight, a super value.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! I totally agree. Even when it goes back to its full price of $30, it’s a steal! Thanks so much for watching!

  • @vcodev108
    @vcodev108 5 місяців тому +2

    Man you just convinced me to buy Im going to buy it next week!

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      Amazing news! It's so cheap! Just remember the sale ends on May 15th! Thanks so much for watching, cheers!

  • @luroque
    @luroque 5 місяців тому +4

    really really really nice and serious review, thanks !

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      Oh wow, thanks so much! That means a lot. I felt like this was an important plugin to share. So thanks for watching!

    • @luroque
      @luroque 5 місяців тому +2

      @@palebluedotstudios it ain't about this plugin in particular, I just like the way you review the softwares, no bs, real contexts, etc, cool !!

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      @@luroque Awesome, love to hear it! Cheers!

  • @frattuncbas
    @frattuncbas 5 місяців тому +10

    Emrah Çelik is the man behind this plugin..✌️👊

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      Oh? Do tell. I contacted WA for more info, but haven't heard back yet.

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 5 місяців тому +1

      Looks like a Melda plugin to me

    • @Mixyap
      @Mixyap 5 місяців тому

      @@esahm373 WA Production, United Plugins, UVI and Melda Production are owned by Image-Line they all are sister companies and indeed they share some features and frameworks. In this case Deres is sharing the oversampling and preset algorithm of Melda but it's not a Melda Plugin. Almost all plugins from all other companies recently coming out are using Juce Framework for example.

    • @xgmode
      @xgmode 5 місяців тому

      @@palebluedotstudios check the Gearspace thread about it, he responds there.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +2

      @@esahm373 It is! I totally forgot to mention that. Looks like United Plugins and WA Productions use the Melda engine. Good call!

  • @sssyntax
    @sssyntax Місяць тому +2

    Your music ia really good man!

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much! I need to get my album back online. Cheers!

  • @marksaxon
    @marksaxon Місяць тому +1

    WA Productions have some useful and affordable tools. I use Deres, Outlaw (auto gain), Kick shaper and Vocal shaper. Outlaw is a handy vocal rider and Kick shaper can dial in a big kick drum sound fast.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  Місяць тому +1

      OH yes, I remember really liking Outlaw, and I need to revisit Kick Shaper. Thanks for the tips, I'll check those out. Might be time for a review...cheers!

    • @marksaxon_plays
      @marksaxon_plays Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@palebluedotstudiosYeah man…my vocal chain has Outlaw, Vocal Shaper, Analog Obsession’s LOADES (de-esser) then finishes with a LA-2A.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  Місяць тому

      @@marksaxon_plays Sounds super solid. I almost always use an 1176 or LA-2A to catch the fast peaks.

  • @jbva804
    @jbva804 3 місяці тому +1

    Yeaaaah!! Glad I purchased it.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  Місяць тому

      Oh man, This is the Plugin of the Year, hands-down. Cheers!

  • @maurodimario1423
    @maurodimario1423 5 місяців тому +3

    Soothe acts on multiple frequencies at the same time, with Deres you have to choose only one resonant frequency and only other ones very close to the choosed via the Q setting.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +1

      Definitely. It's focused. I would say it's clearly not acting in the spectral domain on multiple dynamic bands, like soothe 2; but I find it very effective, with lots of options for sculpting your sound. Oh yeah: and it's cheap! Thanks for watching!

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 5 місяців тому +3

      Sometimes there really is only one nasty resonance... And Smoothe 2 can be overkill.... A lot of people have had to dial back their soothe 2 use.... After making things too tame

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +1

      @@ramspencer5492 Oh, I agree. soothe 2 definitely is overused. And often with my own mixes, I kill these resonances and then I A/B with a reference mix, and I'm like, "Oh: this Zeppelin track has tons of resonances in the guitars!", and I back off the processing. Always good to be careful and have a reality-check! Cheers!

    • @stevespacek8893
      @stevespacek8893 4 місяці тому +1

      Soothe is a great plugin. But I love these types of plugins even more. Deres in particular does show Soothe up to be overkill in most situations. So far, I’ve found Deres to be so elegant n simple in use. Plus they understand that in doing this type of sculpting, you might wanna add some vibe back in, with those extra tone controls. Personally, I believe that Soothe is in no way worth multiple times more than a plugin like Deres. My experience with overpriced plugins is that you can always find many cheaper alternatives- some even for free- and in many cases with way more charm and vibe than those with high stickers. Ultimately all subjective of course;)

    • @stevespacek8893
      @stevespacek8893 4 місяці тому +2

      Or forgot to say, you can work on multiple frequencies same time with Deres too. If you combine and adjust the octave function along with the Q knob, then dial in the dynamic function. Then effectively you have dynamic resonance suppression on multiple frequencies at the same time. With each of those controls being infinitely variable, within the audible and visually displayed frequency ranges.

  • @planetclay
    @planetclay 2 місяці тому +2

    i knew i held off on buying Soothe 2 for a reason.....Number 1 being it's co$$$t.
    that's never an issue with WA Productions and i enjoy the hell outta their stuff....including this plugin.
    nice tune btw.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  2 місяці тому

      Deres is a real steal. I find myself using it more often than soothe for things like guitar resonances. It's the Deal of the Year! Cheers!

  • @sssyntax
    @sssyntax 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice review!

  • @Manuwarna
    @Manuwarna Місяць тому +1

    Awesome review as well as the demo..! Can you please help me to choose between W.A. Deres or Brainworx bx_refinement.. Thanks again for the really helpful reviews.. :)

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  Місяць тому +1

      Hi! Pardon the late response. I'd recommend W.A. Deres over bx_refinement. bx_refinement offers correction ONLY at 3khz, whereas Deres processes from 1k to 8k, plus tons of other options. And it's usually cheaper! I use Deres all the time now, and don't touch refinement much. Cheers!

    • @Manuwarna
      @Manuwarna Місяць тому

      @@palebluedotstudios Thank you very much for answering my question.. I bought Deres and tried it on couple of my mixes and WOW..! it works really great..! again, thank you for the awesome recommendations and wish you the very best as well as for the videos as there really awesome and informative than most reviews i have seen.. Subscribed..! 😊❤

  • @JuanJacinto
    @JuanJacinto 5 місяців тому +2

    You've been trying to find a Soothe alternative, but I think you found a replacement! (at least for the higher frequencies)
    I have some virtual cash so I'll get it for free. :) WA production should definitely show your video on their website.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! I contacted them for a review copy, so I'll see what they say about that. So glad I could help. Cheers!

  • @MLaudio20
    @MLaudio20 5 місяців тому +4

    I’d like to see this get a larger frequency spectrum you can attenuate. Something lower than 1khz,

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      That would be good. Also, I think the frequency display could be more useful. It's hard to see why it's there, apart from looking cool. Cheers!

  • @ishbon9807
    @ishbon9807 2 місяці тому +1

    I bought it and loaded it to my daw, Im using it on my project and about a week later it's muting the instruments it's on and giving a loud static sound like every 30 secs does anyone know if this is a trail version because it has no sign of it saying it's a trail version plus I payed for it,, I look for a key code and can't find one ,,need help

    • @meister1481
      @meister1481 20 днів тому +1

      I activated it by logging in. But you also can do it manually. All within the plug in.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  15 днів тому

      Oh crap. Did you buy it from Plugin Boutique? The serial number/installation instructions should be in there.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  15 днів тому

      Cheers, thanks for the advice!

  • @francobuzzetti9424
    @francobuzzetti9424 4 місяці тому +1

    can it sidechain vocals to instrumentals? that's literally the only use for soothe

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  4 місяці тому

      No, Deres can’t sidechain at all. I’d quite effective for broad resonance correction, but it’s not really a dynamic plugin. Very good for the price. Cheers!

  • @jaroslavmensik
    @jaroslavmensik Місяць тому +1

    M/S button stands for mid/side operation. 🤔👍

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  15 днів тому

      Oh, did I say something different? Cheers!

    • @jaroslavmensik
      @jaroslavmensik 15 днів тому +1

      @@palebluedotstudios Oh, You are right. I missheard somehow.
      Just delete me. 😎 Cheers

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  15 днів тому

      @@jaroslavmensikNo worries. I appreciate you checking for accuracy!

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 5 місяців тому +1

    Seems like a better till than Soothe 2 for many kinda of resonance suppression... Not a better tool overall.... Different. Better for some things... Won't do others. Would work well as an additional tool in the tool box....

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      I agree, definitely not a replacement for soothe. It's only doing single-band reduction; no forensic correction sessions with Deres. But it's one to grab for quick track fixes; really good for clearing room in background vocal stacks! Cheers!

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs 5 місяців тому +1

    Is it on the same level as smooth operator?

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +1

      Yes and no. Smooth Operator can do spectral sidechain-input ducking, but I like the sound of Deres better. I find smooth operator is just too drastic and hard to control.

    • @Rio-uv1gs
      @Rio-uv1gs 5 місяців тому +1

      @@palebluedotstudios ok I'll check it out..thx

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +1

      @@Rio-uv1gs Cheers, thanks for watching.

  • @olivertevcev125
    @olivertevcev125 5 місяців тому +1

    Could i kindly recommend you check out Hornet Sleek?

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +4

      You may! I got a review copy and I've been meaning to review that for awhile! Good call: it's another super-cheap resonance suppressor. Stay tuned!

    • @vcodev108
      @vcodev108 5 місяців тому +1

      @@palebluedotstudios I'm waiting for that plugin review from you!

    • @FC-xc3zy
      @FC-xc3zy 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@palebluedotstudiosplease, I need a review of sleek as well ..much thanks

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +1

      @@FC-xc3zy You got it, guys! I'm on it now. Cheers!

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      @@vcodev108 I'll get back to writing it nowwwww!

  • @XantuxNepomuk
    @XantuxNepomuk 5 місяців тому +2

    Don't you think Deres is just an EQ with a different workflow?

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому +1

      You know, in PluginDoctor, it looks like a standard EQ notch filter; but WA Productions indicate there is more going on, such as dynamics and "convolution response". I'm awaiting word from them about this-thanks!

  • @GloveBunniesVideos
    @GloveBunniesVideos 5 місяців тому +1

    Cheap enough! Very effective. Thanks!

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      It's not bad, eh? Definitely a good deal. Thanks for watching!

  • @esahm373
    @esahm373 5 місяців тому +1

    This is more a de-esser / dynamic EQ type plugin. Not really comparable to Soothe. Soothe is way more advanced.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  5 місяців тому

      I agree soothe is more advanced, and I don't think Deres is even acting in the spectral domain. But it attempts so solve the same issue, at a tiny price. Thanks for watching!

    • @sparella
      @sparella 4 місяці тому +2

      MSpectralDynamics is their advanced solution, and it's more advanced than Soothe.

    • @palebluedotstudios
      @palebluedotstudios  4 місяці тому

      @@sparella Ooh, good call. I think I forgot about MSpectralDynamics in this crowded field! I'm going to check that out, thanks so much for the suggestion. Cheers!