Has Netanyahu made Israel a pariah state? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 993

  • @JoelSyverud
    @JoelSyverud Місяць тому +359

    Bibi hasn’t “lost his way”, he’s been remarkably consistent in his fascism for literal decades…

  • @spikespike1332
    @spikespike1332 Місяць тому +326

    Why should the Palestinian pay for the crime of Germany why do the Palestinian don't have the right to exist on their land ..

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      They are paying for the crimes of Hamas, whom they supported up to the hilt, just like the Germans supported the Nazis.

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 Місяць тому +1

      Look up the Haavara agreement and see what germany did for them

    • @JapanSapport
      @JapanSapport Місяць тому

      Well talked

    • @JapanSapport
      @JapanSapport Місяць тому +13

      Why not talking about , why Israel demolished all most gaza strio , hospital , university, school what is that killing Palestine culture more then Palestinian , it look all is pre determined

    • @pakese30
      @pakese30 Місяць тому +4

      @@quenky1they shouldn’t be!

  • @rainfallenonmyshoes8471
    @rainfallenonmyshoes8471 Місяць тому +591

    the country that commemorates a holocaust... now committing a holocaust. How disgustingly ironic.

    • @Coops5361
      @Coops5361 Місяць тому +62

      The abused become the abusers

    • @rainfallenonmyshoes8471
      @rainfallenonmyshoes8471 Місяць тому +22

      @@Coops5361 yup. you're right.

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 Місяць тому

      It isn't yet committing "a holocaust". There is still a difference. But the rhetoric they are using is on the way there. Calling it a holocaust now isn't helpful. Just stating what they are doing is bad enough.
      If you want to make the argument, then point to the dehumanization that is going on and how a people that were dehumanized for such a long time and such a degree less than 100 years ago, can turn to dehumanize others that way, but the actions of the holocaust are not yet being repeated and to claim that they are will close off more people, than you will convince of it.

    • @Coops5361
      @Coops5361 Місяць тому +30

      @@rainfallenonmyshoes8471 it's so depressing, isn't it. Yet I try to remind myself that not all abused people, communities, countries etc, end up following this egregious path. They don't.

    • @rainfallenonmyshoes8471
      @rainfallenonmyshoes8471 Місяць тому +27

      @@quenky1 No i don't

  • @Jatadhari1000
    @Jatadhari1000 Місяць тому +186

    The “ Jew hater “ , and “ antisemite” card are now overused. People have started seeing the truth.

    • @talksmoke1190
      @talksmoke1190 Місяць тому

      Oh really you were an Isreal supporter in the past?

    • @tottifreeman240
      @tottifreeman240 Місяць тому +14

      @@talksmoke1190no but James and many other were 🤷‍♀️

    • @talksmoke1190
      @talksmoke1190 Місяць тому

      @@tottifreeman240 James was never an israel supporter

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v Місяць тому +3

      Crying wolf 😂

    • @marcellodelira5601
      @marcellodelira5601 Місяць тому

      ​@@talksmoke1190I don't think anyone knows what James O'brien ever was or is or has been. Camouflage.

  • @cq6705
    @cq6705 Місяць тому +265

    Israel has always been a pariah state

    • @shsh-he5qg
      @shsh-he5qg Місяць тому +35

      Never been a state, it’s always been a regime

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      In your warped mind, maybe. Israel is the only democracy in the ME and makes a far better job of giving its citizens a decent life than any of its neighbours manage to do.

    • @opinion3742
      @opinion3742 Місяць тому

      A pariah state is a nation considered to be an outcast in the international community. Something that is only just beginning to become a threat. Long overdue as it is.

    • @rehan2118
      @rehan2118 Місяць тому +8

      its a rogue state

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому +1

      @cq. Define Pariah State. Your own words, mind. No peeping.

  • @ThomasKing19933
    @ThomasKing19933 Місяць тому +468

    Yes, Israel is losing support massively.

    • @firefox1234ize
      @firefox1234ize Місяць тому +20

      💯💯

    • @davidking7353
      @davidking7353 Місяць тому +22

      i wonder why

    • @OmEvul1415
      @OmEvul1415 Місяць тому +51

      ​@@davidking7353 According to Israel, the reason is antisemitism. 😂

    • @Proudmuslimah123
      @Proudmuslimah123 Місяць тому +5

      @@OmEvul1415 🤣🤣🤣

    • @liamsloan5410
      @liamsloan5410 Місяць тому

      Yet biden continues to say that without the state of israel there wouldnt be a safe jew in the world when that is objectively not true and we know israel has made jews in the west less safe.

  • @spartacusforlife1508
    @spartacusforlife1508 Місяць тому +270

    Why does anyone think that if Netanyahu goes Israeli policy will change

    • @naijaman6639
      @naijaman6639 Місяць тому +46

      Exactly! As if they have not always been that way.

    • @akhaliquk
      @akhaliquk Місяць тому +26

      Agreed

    • @boxerotheweek6789
      @boxerotheweek6789 Місяць тому

      It has been obvious to the world protesting before all you media and politicians, gee what a surprise!!!!!!

    • @oldskoolbeats1989
      @oldskoolbeats1989 Місяць тому

      Because the USA will put in puppets and control the situation.

    • @perlecatt9123
      @perlecatt9123 Місяць тому +14

      I agree. I wonder the same.

  • @akhaliquk
    @akhaliquk Місяць тому +314

    The majority if not all the Israeli politicians are the same and some even worse. Stop making excuses for Israel's actions.

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn Місяць тому

      Wait till the same people act surprised when Bibi's out, yet the oppression continues....

    • @robertlonsdale5326
      @robertlonsdale5326 Місяць тому

      All jews are much alike, don't they say that about Palestinians?

    • @Somedude54
      @Somedude54 Місяць тому +16

      @@quenky1squatters on Palestinians lands that’s what exactly they are 😂

    • @adaephonprime855
      @adaephonprime855 Місяць тому +4

      They have 1 politician who is pushing for peace, and they tried to kick him out by vote, and it nearly carried through.

    • @tonyfincham6126
      @tonyfincham6126 Місяць тому +7

      Lead by a man who is afraid to use his birth name Mileikowsky has brought them to this in world opinion.

  • @staciasmith5162
    @staciasmith5162 Місяць тому +291

    You want peace, give the Palestinians all of their lands villages and homes back. Give their cities and hospitals and universities back.

    • @donodono2287
      @donodono2287 Місяць тому +16

      Israel proper is here to stay. But it is possible to have all the illegal settlers in the Palestinian West Bank removed.
      1 million French settlers the 'Pied noirs' removed themselves from Algeria upon its independence.

    • @jamesregiste960
      @jamesregiste960 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@quenky1yes,Their land, remember the "Covenant", ?

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn Місяць тому +10

      @@donodono2287But ultimately why should it? If any other colony did and behaved the way israel does there'd be global efforts.... Countries and colonies have collapsed before, why should Israel always be put on a plinth? Because of what happened 75 years ago?

    • @iainclark4835
      @iainclark4835 Місяць тому +1

      @@jamesregiste960 Is that one of the Harry Potter books?

    • @shsh-he5qg
      @shsh-he5qg Місяць тому +8

      @@quenky1same can be said about a imaginary bible 😂

  • @yansideabacoa6257
    @yansideabacoa6257 Місяць тому +107

    Israel was always a pariah state long before Netanyahu.

    • @maltija1
      @maltija1 Місяць тому

      To antisemites perhaps.

    • @titikyulianti2897
      @titikyulianti2897 Місяць тому +3

      Lots of poeples don't even know about israeli occupation until october 7

    • @kunaiflex491
      @kunaiflex491 26 днів тому

      Most the world hates them

  • @mcm6660
    @mcm6660 Місяць тому +219

    I like James but I agree with the Jewish caller from Copenhagen. Israel shouldnt have the right to exist on stolen land. Its a colonial mindset. Of course the Holocaust was awful, but the solution shouldnt have been to displace Palestinians, who had nothing to do with it.

    • @madhatter4173
      @madhatter4173 Місяць тому +19

      To me the end of Israel doesn't mean the displacement of Israelis since a lot of them were born there, but one democratic state for both Palestinians and Israelis.

    • @hellovicki6779
      @hellovicki6779 Місяць тому

      I agree but sadly a single state is more impossible now than ever thanks to Israel's actions. People are too traumatised to live together in a community now. Palestinians must receive reparations from Israel and all nations who allied with Israel plus be granted their own state/land.@@madhatter4173

    • @user-qf1zg4zz8j
      @user-qf1zg4zz8j Місяць тому +7

      @@madhatter4173 Living peacefully as equals after a lot of deindoctrination and reconcilliation and justice.

    • @Stevef2022
      @Stevef2022 Місяць тому +1

      I am curious as to why you are against colonization by Jews but in favour of Arab colonization and Islamic Imperialism?

    • @Stevef2022
      @Stevef2022 Місяць тому

      @@madhatter4173I am curious about which Arab majority state will be your model for freedom and equality?

  • @SkamGame
    @SkamGame Місяць тому +43

    Any state who practices Apartheid is by default a pariah state.

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      How many Jews lived in Gaza? You do not know what apartheid means.

    • @rayglenister9799
      @rayglenister9799 Місяць тому +4

      @@lewislee9201 Please... you tell us what apartheid means.

  • @akhaliquk
    @akhaliquk Місяць тому +214

    Once again James, you are pinning this on Netanyahu when it's always been like this, but u were blind to see or admit. The majority of the population and the government have clearly made their intentions clear... for God's sake it's all record.

    • @OhDearOhDear69
      @OhDearOhDear69 Місяць тому +2

      Whoooo now, just because he’s their elected leader doesn’t by any means make them all guilty! Let’s not apply collective punishment right back -we’d be as bad as them

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez Місяць тому +6

      that's the new game. It's almost as if they all get the same marching orders the way everyones angle changes in unison

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez Місяць тому +11

      no it's just that the other parties are more far right than he is..... you can't live in dreamland. @@OhDearOhDear69

    • @philhahn
      @philhahn Місяць тому +6

      Ah give it a couple more weeks and he'll start claiming "Ahh weeks ago we said that here, didn't we..."

    • @alanniven-qq6tj
      @alanniven-qq6tj Місяць тому +21

      The problem extends to the majority of the ruling class and army, as well as a majority of the Jewish Israeli population, who have been brainwashed and kept in a state of paranoia and a perpetual war mentality for decades

  • @JohnCox-ut3cv
    @JohnCox-ut3cv Місяць тому +66

    I live in a traditional Cretan village. People grow their own food. Olives is a major crop. Yesterday, referring to the Israelis who had moved into the village a woman friend said it made her scared. I was puzzled & asked why. She couldn’t really say.
    Palestine was colonised by Israelis bearing arms. Decades of stealing homes through violence continues to this day. Maybe, that is what scares her.

  • @moetontorpedo
    @moetontorpedo Місяць тому +123

    Insinuating that the problems in Israel are all tied to “Netanyahu’s right wing government” is just such an oversimplification. Case in point the first caller saying he’s sad about the loss of life in Gaza but it has to continue. It’s very apparent that a popular number in the Israeli population including settlers have an extreme level of anti Palestinian sentiment which is one of the way this unacceptable apartheid system has been allowed to exist. And before someone tells me about October 7th this has been going on for years. The problem is much deeper than a change in leadership unfortunately.

    • @brianbreen1026
      @brianbreen1026 Місяць тому +15

      Mowing the grass is the expression used.The Israelis see the Palestinians as less than human and that attitude has been prevalent for decades.Israel is apartheid and should be held to account.

    • @mistyc1986
      @mistyc1986 Місяць тому +7

      Totally!

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      On 7th October the Palestinians only confirmed Israelis' perception of the former's lack of humanity.

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      Israel has around 2 million Arab citizens. Do you actually know the meaning of words like apartheid or do you just parrot them?

    • @mortemincarnatam2836
      @mortemincarnatam2836 Місяць тому

      ​@@lewislee92012 millions that have no rights, and get harassed daily while the local law enforcement watches, only to interfere when they defend themselves.

  • @crisp523
    @crisp523 Місяць тому +105

    I understood from before the Israeli troops even went into Gaza what was going to happen, sadly it was all too clear. This was backed up when I looked at my British co worker with Israeli parents Facebook, it read “it’s time Isreal had a new car park”.

    • @user-tx4ym7ru4e
      @user-tx4ym7ru4e Місяць тому

      does Israel deserve the right to exist? on stolen land? for another 75 years?

    • @MichelleMcSoriley
      @MichelleMcSoriley Місяць тому +27

      The mask has been lifted

    • @YusufGinnah
      @YusufGinnah Місяць тому +24

      The flippant disrespect shown for any other lifeform that isn't them, makes me sick to my stomach...

    • @JJfromJ
      @JJfromJ Місяць тому

      @@MichelleMcSoriley Here is a little bit more of the lifting of the mask...
      - Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156 "When a Jew has a gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it".
      And that is how the Jews confiscated land in Europe and became a hated nation, especially in Germany.

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому

      @@MichelleMcSoriley Does this have ring of truth to you ?To me , it sounds like a line from a late-night. Comedy Club

  • @ArsenalTrill
    @ArsenalTrill Місяць тому +112

    Why question the aparent. Love to the beautiful people of Palestine ❤🍉

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      You do know the "beautiful Palestinian people" think it a beautiful thing when mothers bear many children so some can be spared as child "martyrs for Allah"? Not all cultures are equal.

    • @jawadshreim5485
      @jawadshreim5485 Місяць тому

      @@lewislee9201so they have alot of children because they know some will be killed? They are beautiful

  • @user-xk9nx3ii8d
    @user-xk9nx3ii8d Місяць тому +67

    From Israeli who spoke first called, it's too clear Israeli want finished all palestinian

    • @abeersadeddin5975
      @abeersadeddin5975 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@quenky1
      And then all Joradnians and then all Iraqis and then all Egyptians until they get their greater Israel...and then maybe they will expand some more?

    • @nlole
      @nlole Місяць тому +5

      @@quenky1 just like it started with Poland right?

    • @Ayah_Mia
      @Ayah_Mia Місяць тому +6

      ​@@quenky1I thought the Naz!s no longer exists until I realised that they are rebranding themselves as the NAtional ZIonism of Israel.

    • @mystery8207
      @mystery8207 Місяць тому

      @@quenky1Netanyahu’s far right coalition activity talks about the greater Israel all the time…

    • @cakewhisperer7113
      @cakewhisperer7113 Місяць тому

      My feeling exactly. The audacity of the Israeli supporters to still support the crazy starvation and dehumanization of the Palestinians.

  • @leothelemonboy1495
    @leothelemonboy1495 Місяць тому +106

    I just want to remind everyone that South Africa before sanctions had nukes, just because a regime has a great military doesn't mean it can't fall.

    • @OhDearOhDear69
      @OhDearOhDear69 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah but South Africa’s not Isreal, the rules don’t apply to Isreal

    • @SnowCedarQueen
      @SnowCedarQueen Місяць тому

      Israel was engaged in the destabilising of African countries since the 60s and highly supportive of the SA aparthied regime.

    • @fooballers7883
      @fooballers7883 Місяць тому

      LOL .... rules or no rules... there was a thing called british empire... is it there today ? they are beggars in Europe today@@OhDearOhDear69

    • @leothelemonboy1495
      @leothelemonboy1495 Місяць тому

      @@OhDearOhDear69 Yeah the white regime of South Africa thought the same thing before the US joined in on sanctions

    • @maureenmannion6748
      @maureenmannion6748 Місяць тому +2

      Very proud of S Africa for its action taking Israel before the ICJ. Bravo. Wish the Western world governments had such morality.

  • @Klopp2543
    @Klopp2543 Місяць тому +55

    The problem isn't netanyahu, replace netanyahu and his/her replacement will continue with the same or worse policies.
    Why does israel lack official borders?

    • @earthynomad7160
      @earthynomad7160 Місяць тому +2

      Because the greater isreal borders are not finalised

  • @HughCurranAedh
    @HughCurranAedh Місяць тому +47

    A country once admired showing its ignoble face. Perhaps it was always this way?

    • @naijaman6639
      @naijaman6639 Місяць тому +24

      Thank you. It was always that way, but as always, truth finally overtook lies and misinformation.

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever Місяць тому

      Only admired by the ignorant or the genocidal

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 Місяць тому +3

      I never admired

  • @paolosunda7762
    @paolosunda7762 Місяць тому +21

    One cannot help wondering if all those children having been and been killed daily where somehow Italian, British, Belgian, French, Spanish etc.etc. how would the world community react ?? Would it have gone this far ?

    • @lewislee9201
      @lewislee9201 Місяць тому

      All those European children would have parents who actually cared about them instead of instrumentalising them as cannon fodder for a sordid cause, If Europeans had been running Gaza and received all that aid Gaza would be a thriving, free, safe and prosperous city state where people would want to go. They'd probably have a boat people problem too. They would not have turned Gaza into a rocket launch pad, which is what Hamas did.

    • @nopt1118
      @nopt1118 Місяць тому

      Also, would the ICJ had given the same ruling?

  • @agathonhelo1474
    @agathonhelo1474 Місяць тому +43

    The caller from Tel Aviv had a British accent. I find it amazing how many callers from Israel have foreign accents. I wonder why they all have foreign accents?

    • @abeersadeddin5975
      @abeersadeddin5975 Місяць тому +8

      ​@quenky1 extremely ignorant of you...study before you speak

    • @1seafisher
      @1seafisher Місяць тому +5

      ​@@quenky1pales are descendants of netufians the first settlers of israel thousands of years before any jew ! Nice try though

    • @talksmoke1190
      @talksmoke1190 Місяць тому +1

      In the intervening 70+ years the Nakba, or catastrophe, which Zurayk emphatically defined as the failure of ineffectual Arab states, who sought “the abolition of partition and the eradication of Zionism” only to “leave the battle having lost a not inconsiderable portion of the soil of Palestine” has been disingenuously redefined as the expulsion of Palestinians from part of the proposed State of Palestine

    • @1seafisher
      @1seafisher Місяць тому +1

      @@quenky1 and when was their tactical identity formed ?

    • @1seafisher
      @1seafisher Місяць тому +1

      @@quenky1 and when was their tactical identity formed

  • @gavinkalaher7314
    @gavinkalaher7314 Місяць тому +47

    I reckon 100-120k is more realistic, and it's nowhere near over yet. Most people don't realise the gravity of the situation on the ground.

    • @magnuscarlsson9969
      @magnuscarlsson9969 Місяць тому +11

      It will probably be way more at this rate. A starving person can be saved, but they will need care to recover... food might be the immediate remedy to the situation, but with no way to properly administer care within this environment they are in, it won't really be a magical fix-it-all.

    • @gavinkalaher7314
      @gavinkalaher7314 Місяць тому +13

      @@magnuscarlsson9969 it could easily go to 300k with starvation. With disease included, 500k+ - it's that dire. Even if it stopped tomorrow, there's a 'long-tail' of excess mortality for over a year.

    • @staciasmith5162
      @staciasmith5162 Місяць тому

      They want all 2,000,000 dead.

  • @user-jo8gf7kj8t
    @user-jo8gf7kj8t Місяць тому +94

    How do you fix a society that has become so deeply consumed by racism and fascism ?

    • @OhDearOhDear69
      @OhDearOhDear69 Місяць тому

      I have no idea, it’s terrifying. They report anything you say on Pro -Israeli media, they won’t listen. Muting comments might buy them some time, but it won’t stop the decades of guilt and shame that will eventually come when they see their actions objectively.

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever Місяць тому

      Exactly Zionism had made Israel scary genocidal.

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v Місяць тому +1

      I’m assuming the colonizer 😅

    • @rayglenister9799
      @rayglenister9799 Місяць тому +5

      Press for change by not supporting it economically or militarily. American and Western Governments can sow those two words you used onto their National flags.

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому

      @user-jo. Once, “racism” was a helpful clarifying word. Now it has become a sword.

  • @chineduadolphemezie855
    @chineduadolphemezie855 Місяць тому +29

    Thank you, James, for always speaking it as it is. History will be kind to people like you, Owen Jones, and New Media

    • @KingofEverything1
      @KingofEverything1 Місяць тому

      Wrong, O'Brien was one of the main anti Corbyn people going on about his made up antisemitism and continuing to promote Zionism

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v Місяць тому

      💯

  • @DavidCodyPeppers.
    @DavidCodyPeppers. Місяць тому +28

    28:54
    90% of the world's politicians DID say something.
    It happened in the U.N.
    🕊️

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever Місяць тому +2

      But hardly any sanctions tbf

    • @rooks4ever
      @rooks4ever Місяць тому +2

      But hardly any sanctions tbf

  • @liamfarrell3281
    @liamfarrell3281 Місяць тому +5

    Who gave the British the right to give Palestine away to European emigres?

    • @rayglenister9799
      @rayglenister9799 Місяць тому

      The British were glad to hand the Palestinian 'problem' over to the UN in 1947. The UN then voted to Partition Palestine to accommodate the formation of a Jewish State on land called Palestine. Israel declared itself a State in 1948 after its victory in the Arab war, and was thus able to forcibly expel 700 000 Palestinians from their homeland. The same agenda as today.

  • @AbdulRahman-mk3wl
    @AbdulRahman-mk3wl Місяць тому +31

    The whole world is very much against netanyahus actions

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому

      Abdul Rahman-mk. Maybe. But not all for the same reasons. Don’t try and recruit them to your particular cause.

    • @franklinkooyman8117
      @franklinkooyman8117 Місяць тому +1

      Sooner or later (probably sooner), Netanyahu's Israel will have to learn the lesson that we South Africans learnt some 30 years ago ....... They cannot gain security, peace and prosperity by depriving another nation, in this case the Palestinians, of the same rights that they want for themselves.

  • @jjboys215
    @jjboys215 Місяць тому +67

    Israel is the only Nation/State that I've ever heard anyone say, "Has a right to exist".
    Ukraine was INVADED, yet I've NEVER heard that term used in reference to Ukraine...

    • @boxerotheweek6789
      @boxerotheweek6789 Місяць тому

      Not only that but the west bank is 'occupied' for 60 years, isn't it called annexation for everyone else

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 Місяць тому +3

      That is pure nonsense, people constantly talk about the sovereign right of Ukraine to exist. If you haven't heard it you didn't pay any attention or didn't want to hear it. It is one of the main arguments to support Ukraine. That states have the right to exist has been said about many other states over the year.

    • @joshuarubin3684
      @joshuarubin3684 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@carpediem5232you misunderstood the OP, who implies no one needs to affirm Ukraine's right to exist since it's so obvious

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 Місяць тому

      @@joshuarubin3684 He stated outright that he never heard that term used. What ever intention, that statement is nonsense.

    • @abedadavids5468
      @abedadavids5468 Місяць тому +11

      Because it doesn’t have that right. It’s stolen.

  • @antoniaadams2084
    @antoniaadams2084 Місяць тому +28

    That speech was given to give bibi a way out and Isreal. Who ever they put in may slow it down, in another 40 years we will have the same conversation. They think their smarter then everyone else thats the issue.

    • @marieb9397
      @marieb9397 Місяць тому +13

      Absolutely agree. The Palestinians have suffered enough. Going back to a world where we all move on with our flapaccinnos and bagels while the people of Palestine stay under apartheid and occupation is not going to happen again moving forward. Never again means never again.🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 Місяць тому +1

      10 years, not 40.

    • @cakewhisperer7113
      @cakewhisperer7113 Місяць тому

      70 or 80 thousand ?? He needs to correct his comment to at least 3 quarter of a million.

  • @marcusdosh408
    @marcusdosh408 Місяць тому +13

    Pariaha state is an understatement

  • @bablumiah2062
    @bablumiah2062 Місяць тому +37

    Netanyahu has done so much damage to Israel 100 times worse than what hamas can ever do. Israel. Netanyahu is responsible for the security and safety of a citizens if a Shepherd was sent to gauard Sheep and then the wolf came and ate the sheep , who would you blame the wolf or the Shepherd it should be the Shepherd who in this case is Netanyahu who allowed the atrocity on seventh of October

    • @raphaelandrews3617
      @raphaelandrews3617 Місяць тому +2

      THAT is exactly what happen. The people left to protect sheep sat back and allowed the wolf eat his fill, then said look what that wolf did it , it was all his fault. Nothing to do with me, so let use go after wolf, it his fault leave it to me, I will deal with the wolf.

    • @abedadavids5468
      @abedadavids5468 Місяць тому +5

      Israel is the wolf. This started years ago not on October 7th

    • @tottifreeman240
      @tottifreeman240 Місяць тому +7

      @@quenky1I’m sure if Israel hadn’t occupied Palestine those 30000 and more would be alive

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 Місяць тому +4

      @@quenky1 "Pretty sure the 30k who died in this war will be alive today if Oct 7 didn't happen."
      That doesn't fit with what the plan has been all along. The plan didn't begin oct 7 or change after oct 7.

    • @koalabrownie
      @koalabrownie Місяць тому

      @@quenky1No, the 30K who died would be alive today if Israel's longest-serving Prime Minister wasn't fundamentally opposed to peace. Israeli citizens are the ones who elect him, they're the ones who elected alleged war criminals like Sharon and known former terrorists like Began and Shamir.

  • @knowledgepower2001
    @knowledgepower2001 Місяць тому +7

    We need more people like James o brien

  • @Jatadhari1000
    @Jatadhari1000 Місяць тому +26

    Israel is a pariah state, the first caller just doesn’t see it. Also is he an “ Israeli “ , or a dual British Zionist israeli ?

    • @Daniel-zs1eq
      @Daniel-zs1eq Місяць тому +4

      Both! With a massive false entitlement!

  • @debk3901
    @debk3901 Місяць тому +16

    The devastation in Gaza serves as a stark reminder of the immense human cost of conflict. The staggering number of casualties, including fatalities and countless others left with life-altering injuries, suggests that the toll could potentially reach into the hundreds of thousands. Even if the death toll hasn't yet reached that figure yet, the widespread suffering from injuries, infections, and the harsh realities of starvation paint a terrifying picture of the toll this ongoing conflict is having on the Palestinian people. There's a noticeable global shift in sentiment towards Israel. Empathy, once prevalent, is waning as people express shock and disbelief over what's perceived as relentless retaliation. Many are calling for accountability, and personally I feel there should be repercussions for Biden, Blinken (how can he even put diplomat in his job specs)and any other international leaders that continued to support this Dresden style campaign (includes Obama and Clinton.) The actions of the Israeli government and IDF will leave a lasting mark on future generations of Jewish children, staining them with an evil legacy. It's difficult to comprehend this kind of insanity. But what I find even more staggering is the silence from Arab nations. DEAFENING

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump Місяць тому +4

      The de facto government of Yemen have had a lot to say

    • @debk3901
      @debk3901 Місяць тому

      Defacto! Correct ! Where is Saudi Arabia, UAE, Morocco and Bahrain or Egypt. You hear more from Ireland and South Africa. There does not appear to be any strong leadership in Arab nations they all succumb to the West@@tubthump

    • @mortemincarnatam2836
      @mortemincarnatam2836 Місяць тому

      I mean the average Arab citizens had a lot to say, it just the dictators that are silent, and it not really surprising, if they don't care for their own citizens, what makes you think they would care for the Palestinians?

  • @tfalani3861
    @tfalani3861 Місяць тому +9

    Israel was always a pariah state according to Prof Noam Chomsky

  • @DavidCodyPeppers.
    @DavidCodyPeppers. Місяць тому +13

    31:10
    Well there you have it.
    The nation of Israel is a special case.
    Just wow.
    🕊️

  • @pennypierce6511
    @pennypierce6511 Місяць тому +22

    Yes, he has. They will never be safe now...

  • @perirgensolsson3673
    @perirgensolsson3673 Місяць тому +16

    has he been presidnt for 75 years?

    • @michellenorris8471
      @michellenorris8471 Місяць тому

      Israel has had 76 years of successive Zionist-led governments.

  • @abedadavids5468
    @abedadavids5468 Місяць тому +11

    Why is this extraordinary when criticising a colonial occupying terrorist but when killing a president from another country by the west because they see him as a threat there is silence and no backlash. So Netanyahu can just step down with no repercussions

    • @Bytheriversofbabylonhc
      @Bytheriversofbabylonhc Місяць тому

      The 4000 year Torah says clearly the land of Israel belongs to the Jews, the 12 tribes of ISRAEL

  • @OhDearOhDear69
    @OhDearOhDear69 Місяць тому +12

    Not yet, but it’s right on the cusp in my opinion. People in the west have not yet seen the starving children, when they do that will be the catalyst for real, outspoken change. Not all this tiptoeing around the subject, which is just like being in an abusive relationship.

    • @matzbr5tw
      @matzbr5tw Місяць тому +1

      Yes I agree completely

  • @berosmith9041
    @berosmith9041 Місяць тому +10

    I fail to understand why the English have not given some advice to Israel. They did exactly the same, punished civilians for the actions of a few and in the end, they lost!

    • @naijaman6639
      @naijaman6639 Місяць тому +3

      Well, they want company in history.

  • @roseannemain9957
    @roseannemain9957 Місяць тому +2

    In the minds of many people living in Scotland Israel is already a pariah state!!

  • @kimshin8383
    @kimshin8383 Місяць тому +26

    James your telling the truth I enjoy listening to your show just because of how you are and how fair you are

    • @stevekeys262
      @stevekeys262 Місяць тому +4

      Unless the subject matter is Jeremy Corbyn.

    • @alanniven-qq6tj
      @alanniven-qq6tj Місяць тому +5

      I agree with both the above comments.

    • @tottifreeman240
      @tottifreeman240 Місяць тому +4

      He was so anti Jeremy Corbin now what they said about JC they say about him and he plays victim. James pandering guilt with no real apology makes me sick sometimes

    • @user-dy6mc4iw9v
      @user-dy6mc4iw9v Місяць тому

      Balanced. 😊

  • @robyn-ky1dz
    @robyn-ky1dz Місяць тому +7

    Netanyahu paid for by US. They admit it. There is no Israel. Paid for by us.😂😂

  • @mazg2075
    @mazg2075 Місяць тому +4

    It's ALREADY BEEN a PARIAH State for the last 75+ Years

  • @BachTantra
    @BachTantra Місяць тому +4

    99% of Israelis are eating well tonight

  • @fathimachaudhri9757
    @fathimachaudhri9757 Місяць тому +23

    Nno James there weren't just 70000 or 80000 people there ,
    There were MORE THAN 800000 thousand people already living there,.and there is a LOT of difference between 80 thousand & 800 thousand.James you need to do your homework on this !!!

  • @dirtcom7
    @dirtcom7 Місяць тому +9

    Melvin had a thick middle Eastern accent

  • @ronnieparkerscott6223
    @ronnieparkerscott6223 Місяць тому +6

    Israel have lost. This maybe realised 30 years from now. Sad!

  • @khurramadnan8839
    @khurramadnan8839 Місяць тому +5

    When will James OBrian receive an award for his work. Surely he has become a benchmark a standard bearer of what journalism should be. Truthful, unbiased, factual, unambiguous, and most importantly uninfluenced by any factor other than the factual truth. As a member of the media fraternity as a producer and someone who had tried to raise several issues in the past, from immigration to radicalisation I am proud of this beacon of light that is James OBrian (OBE ... at least). Knight the Man.

  • @spartacusforlife1508
    @spartacusforlife1508 Місяць тому +9

    To ordinary people the answer is yes. To politicians who see it as a proxy in the region the answer is no

  • @montaguewithnail6372
    @montaguewithnail6372 Місяць тому +15

    American meddling in other countries brought to a new level.

    • @staciasmith5162
      @staciasmith5162 Місяць тому +3

      I agree. As an American, I believe that we need to stop meddling and giving aid, money, weapons, and diplomatic cover to Israel. Maybe most countries.

  • @barriemilgate
    @barriemilgate Місяць тому +7

    Has he ever talked about Julian Assange. Just asking.

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump Місяць тому +3

      Not as far as I know. Shameful.

  • @ronturner3598
    @ronturner3598 Місяць тому +9

    Moral parsing has nothing to do with finding peace. Finger pointing must end. Peace and human rights for all now.

  • @user-rf9ys2vz3i
    @user-rf9ys2vz3i Місяць тому +13

    Truth to power. Respect. Palestine, Unilaterally.

  • @liamfarrell3281
    @liamfarrell3281 Місяць тому +3

    Population of Palestine under the British Mandate was not 70,000, it was 757,182.

  • @mehdiboudaoud7533
    @mehdiboudaoud7533 Місяць тому +2

    It's really sad to see that these people criticize Netanyahu because he put Israël in a bad situation rather than condemning him for the atrocities he committed against Palestinians.

  • @michellenorris8471
    @michellenorris8471 Місяць тому +2

    Yes, Netanyahu has definitely made Israel a pariah state, if it cannot find the moral conscience to stop obstructing the restoration of equal human rights and/or sovereign rights for the Palestinians, I cannot see Israel surviving.

  • @minimalist279
    @minimalist279 Місяць тому +4

    Clear now the US line is at 31,000.

  • @mohsinrao4334
    @mohsinrao4334 Місяць тому +14

    20:03 Au contraire, there is every comparison to be drawn between Netanyahu and Hamas at this point. The difference I suppose is that the former has access to an air force, and can wear a suit and speak English.

  • @fazinsanal1085
    @fazinsanal1085 Місяць тому +2

    What would you do if someone from another country comes to your home and said this used to be mine and threw you and your family out who now have to be refugees in their ancestral land?!?!?

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому

      @fazinsanal. Get out the History books and read aboutwhat really happened. You might be surprised. The land that was given to the Jews by Treaty with the Allies after WW2 was the worst, and regarded by the locals as a write-off, unproductive and virtually unworkable. My parents heard from a returning serviceman that it was a dump - the soil was thin, no natural harbours, unreliable water-courses. The new Israelis lived in tents for years - and transformed it by hard labour.

  • @nemosays6337
    @nemosays6337 Місяць тому +11

    Yes!

  • @username33ish
    @username33ish Місяць тому +9

    Few weeks James you painted all those who were critical of Israel as anti-Semites now you dipped your toe in the debate you have now been painted with the same brush yet you still dont seem to get the irony of that

    • @mandyharewood886
      @mandyharewood886 Місяць тому +2

      Huh?

    • @username33ish
      @username33ish Місяць тому

      @@mandyharewood886 sorry I had made a typo thanks for letting me know

    • @carpediem5232
      @carpediem5232 Місяць тому +3

      He didn't do that though. Why are you talking nonsense?

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому

      May I be allowed to add “pariah state” to the list of unhelpful words. It demonises a whole population, who may be quite innocent.

  • @1seafisher
    @1seafisher Місяць тому +11

    Sadly I feel yes ! Maybe not by politicians but by the vast majority of everyday people they've seen and heard enough of the drivle spewing from spokespeople , certain news outlets and world leaders

  • @mokchahaahmed4226
    @mokchahaahmed4226 Місяць тому +2

    "If Israelis don't want to be accused of being like the Nazis, they simply need to stop behaving like Nazis.."
    ~ Norman Finkelstein

  • @verng8864
    @verng8864 Місяць тому +2

    You mean the Crime Minister Netanyahu

  • @VERIAS1122
    @VERIAS1122 Місяць тому +8

    There is no comparison to Hamas. 30k+ is the consistent terrorist count. Also, Palestine is a colonial settler state that occupies from inception. Hamas 10/7 is a small terrorist response to no ceasefire and decades of incursion

  • @bmxney3143
    @bmxney3143 Місяць тому +9

    Yes, next question

  • @catznjam470
    @catznjam470 Місяць тому +2

    Last word from my thoughts, following the money 🕵️‍♀️👁️👁️🤔🙄we need a refresher on Netanyahu's financial crimes and corruption, the indictments, what happened to them? What exactly was he doing to dismantle the judiciary system? How is he still in power? There were already widespread protests in Israel against the government - what is going on with that? What is going on with the illegal encroachment and settlements? Cui bono?

  • @The_Reckoning_Is_Here
    @The_Reckoning_Is_Here Місяць тому +13

    Schumer should take his own advice and get out of the past and govern for the future.

  • @jasonpetrise
    @jasonpetrise Місяць тому +9

    It's been one for 75 years 🙄

  • @PeterPan-qp7vt
    @PeterPan-qp7vt Місяць тому +10

    THEY NEVER HAD SUPORT !!!

    • @IcarianX
      @IcarianX Місяць тому +5

      They have unconditional support from the one country that matters: America. That's all they need, military aid and the Security Council veto blocking all resolutions against them.

  • @RKAAHLAEFD
    @RKAAHLAEFD Місяць тому +3

    As like the two state solution was possible before oct.7 🙄 do not blame the 7amas for Preventing access to the state solution ، Because it was not possible with Israel in the first place .

  • @thegoodpimps
    @thegoodpimps Місяць тому +2

    Moses married an Arab, Muhammad married a Jew. These groups can easily coexist if they choose Love over Hate.

  • @madhatter4173
    @madhatter4173 Місяць тому +2

    The problem is that it doesn't really matter if Netanyahu is replaced since nothing will change. Benny Gantz already said that he won't change the approach in Gaza and neither did anything under Naftali Bennett and Yair Lapid. At the end of the day a two state solution has become impossible so one democratic country is really the only solution like us in South Africa, which will be a bumpy ride but the right thing to do, both practically and ethically. The correlation between SA and Israel is huge and if Israel was smart they would look at what we've done and improve on it.

  • @user-gw3tk3lr7k
    @user-gw3tk3lr7k Місяць тому +3

    So they knew all along, James they knew the truth and the longer they held on hoping the masses would fade the more they facilitated the death in Gaza. This can’t only be on that lunatic Bibi they all have blood on their hands.

  • @michellerenner6880
    @michellerenner6880 Місяць тому +3

    Palestinians representatives to the UN want a 2-state solution.

  • @mohamedfouze1844
    @mohamedfouze1844 Місяць тому

    James O'Brien very brilliant and truthful! My highest respect to you 🫡

  • @jirehmi9183
    @jirehmi9183 Місяць тому +2

    Has it not been a Pariah state for over 75 years? And who is the terrorist? How do we define this? Are Hamas a resistance or terrorist group?

  • @Coops5361
    @Coops5361 Місяць тому +5

    At this "critical juncture" why this, why now from Schumer?
    Beyond that what's going to stop Schumer being characterised as the 'wrong kind of Jew'?

    • @genglo8186
      @genglo8186 Місяць тому

      Hi, American here, Schumer is up for re election. You'll hear most politicians come out & speak out against IsNOTrael now, only because they want to continue to be in power.

  • @demitri2510
    @demitri2510 Місяць тому +3

    Most estimates I’ve seen is there were many more Palestinians than just 70-80,000. The library of congress in the US estimates hundreds of thousands.

  • @divinity176
    @divinity176 Місяць тому +2

    Blaming Netanyahu is easy. But he has been elected time and time again over the decades - even when Rabin was murdered and the Israelis had the choice of going with the candidate who would continue Rabin's efforts for peace, they chose Netanyahu. And they do this knowing full well that in the multiparty situation they have, a Netanyahu run government is almost always going to include coalition partners far more extreme than even he is. Netanyahu represents the democratic will of Israel - blaming him lets everyone else off too easily.

  • @geertdecoster5301
    @geertdecoster5301 Місяць тому +4

    Not yet, but some do want their Greater Israel

  • @DennisMoore664
    @DennisMoore664 Місяць тому +3

    Carrying forward the whole vegetable comparisons James has been doing this week ... Netanyahu is a real raw Lima bean.

  • @RoarDog1
    @RoarDog1 Місяць тому +1

    Netanyahu needs convicting of serious war crimes when this horror is over.

  • @shabirahmed9840
    @shabirahmed9840 Місяць тому +2

    It’s been obvious for months not weeks!

  • @jdnlaw1974
    @jdnlaw1974 Місяць тому +10

    How is the claim that Israel has permeated and perhaps achieved control of the US and the UK governments wrong or antisemitic? Is it antisemitic if it’s actually true?

    • @user-ck3xz9so7h
      @user-ck3xz9so7h Місяць тому

      Its antisemitic because it is utter nonsense. US/UK support Israel for their own post-colonial geo-political interests, not because they are "controlled" by Israel and certainly not by Jews in general. The USA has 300 million people. There are about 8 million Jews in the US, and no, they don't control all the banks, or Hollywood or the media.

    • @TC-qk6nt
      @TC-qk6nt Місяць тому +1

      Stating lobbyists on behalf of the Israeli state shape UK policy on Gaza is not anti-Semitic and shouldn’t be controversial. Why so tough for James to grasp? 🤔

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 Місяць тому +1

      @jdnlaw. We have had the (invented and incorrect ) word “Islamophobia” foisted on us. Why not “ judophobia” -or something similar ? It’s because prejudice runs deeper than we know.

  • @joshuarubin3684
    @joshuarubin3684 Місяць тому +3

    Why does James feel the need to mention that although Hamas is labeled a terrorist organization in this country, it's not labeled as such in all countries...

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump Місяць тому +4

      Most of the world doesn’t label Hamas as terrorists. And worth remembering that the French resistance were labelled as terrorists by the occupying Germans in WWII

    • @joshuarubin3684
      @joshuarubin3684 Місяць тому

      @@tubthump why is that worth remembering? What point are you making?

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump Місяць тому +3

      @@joshuarubin3684 my point is there’s nothing new about referring to your enemy as a terrorist. When did the UK finally remove Nelson Mandela from their list of terrorists?

    • @joshuarubin3684
      @joshuarubin3684 Місяць тому

      @@tubthump are you comparing Hamas with Nelson Mandela?

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump Місяць тому +2

      @@joshuarubin3684 Apparently I misread your original comment - I thought you were making the same basic point as me. So, yes, by comparing Mandela and his ANC or the WWII French resistance with Hamas I’m saying that enemies are frequently referred to as terrorists by governments. Not everyone regards Hamas as an enemy therefore they don’t call them terrorists - it is, after all, a purely subjective and meaningless term. Most significantly, Palestinians in Gaza elected them to be their representatives so it’s what they think which is most important isn’t it?

  • @PeterPan-qp7vt
    @PeterPan-qp7vt Місяць тому +3

    I FO NOT THINK THAT WAY I LIBED THERE I KNOW THESE PEOPLE THEY HOLD TOGETHER WHEN THERE IS WAR THEY FIGHT EACH OTHER DURING PEACE !!!

  • @miastupid7911
    @miastupid7911 Місяць тому +1

    Your 3rd caller had me crying hard.

  • @nedsantos1415
    @nedsantos1415 Місяць тому +2

    How has he NOT done that?

  • @jackmannion143
    @jackmannion143 Місяць тому +5

    You should look into the practice of metzitzah bpeh .. would like to hear a jewish perspective of said religious ritual common place in hasidic jewish community

  • @SeanPan-it3jm
    @SeanPan-it3jm Місяць тому +5

    You won't think so, if you are Netan-yahoo-y.

    • @stephaniejaboh8929
      @stephaniejaboh8929 Місяць тому

      I am sure the majority of the world dont want to be Satanyahu right now, for having to deal with the war, for facing legal troubles and for the brutality of his decisions.

  • @jawadshreim5485
    @jawadshreim5485 Місяць тому +2

    70 or 80 thousand people were on Palestinian land before Israel? There was 2 million my brother

  • @inkipinki8468
    @inkipinki8468 Місяць тому +2

    I think Palestinians need to be protected from Israel!

  • @mapleleafkay9824
    @mapleleafkay9824 Місяць тому +3

    Yes he has!

  • @GeistInTheMachine
    @GeistInTheMachine Місяць тому +7

    No. Not nearly enough of a pariah.

  • @Noname-hc5uw
    @Noname-hc5uw Місяць тому +2

    James, why do you insist on calling Hamas a terrorist, but exempt the IDF of the same label? Btw, 10/11 was not a terror attack but a response to Israeli terrorism!