2018 Porsche 911 GT3 vs 2023 Porsche Cayman GT4 RS - Head to Head Review!

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  • Опубліковано 23 вер 2023
  • These $200K+ Porsches are among the very best cars I've driven. Let's find out how they compare, back to back!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 71

  • @docfink
    @docfink 9 місяців тому +10

    I love my GT4 and would love to hear that RS engine in it, but it would be hard to drive the GT4RS for anything more than a canyon or track day with that intense volume hitting the ears each day, no matter how glorious the sound is. The 911 GT3 makes that engine more livable on a daily basis. Driving these cars frequently is what makes Porsche ownership so special and makes them truly SUPER cars.

    • @Whotta
      @Whotta 7 місяців тому +1

      Well said

    • @raklert1
      @raklert1 2 місяці тому

      I daily my 4rs and love it.

  • @coreyegan6751
    @coreyegan6751 9 місяців тому +12

    Gorgeous spec on the 991....911 all day and twice on Sunday. The manual is half of the driving experience!

  • @pan4632
    @pan4632 9 місяців тому +34

    as much as I love the GT4 RS, it does not deserve a market value of $230-250k

    • @kcw9313
      @kcw9313 9 місяців тому +5

      Yet the market values it as such 🤷🏻

    • @pan4632
      @pan4632 9 місяців тому +6

      @@kcw9313 yeah because Porsche artificially limits allocations for GT cars

    • @billnorblat4047
      @billnorblat4047 9 місяців тому +5

      Good luck ever getting one for less when the world finds out there's less than 1000

    • @thomaswu9094
      @thomaswu9094 9 місяців тому +2

      There are 7,000 GT4RS what are u talking about

    • @lateral-g8847
      @lateral-g8847 8 місяців тому

      👍

  • @pedrowhite6684
    @pedrowhite6684 9 місяців тому +4

    Epic comparo! No need to decide. One of each as shown in the video is perfection! The GT4RS punches well above its weight at even $250k - $350k. I spent months comparing it back to back with other cars in this range before pulling the trigger. A true unicorn now on its way to becoming Porsche Legend.

  • @CubanDre
    @CubanDre 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the ending. Just a great touch to these great drives. 4RS still has the screen film too! Great comparison. Keep ‘em coming!

  • @achromaticwraps
    @achromaticwraps 9 місяців тому

    so good to see you driving these cars! As always, excellent and genuine reviews.

  • @timgreen6952
    @timgreen6952 9 місяців тому

    GREAT review!

  • @spikes20
    @spikes20 9 місяців тому

    Love it! Always enjoy your reviews. 4RS straight to the top of the Z-index ;) Like the shout to find a new 3RS next haha...then it will be time for a test of a 918...

  • @kevin91234
    @kevin91234 9 місяців тому +4

    I would choose 4rs juz for the intake sound inside the cabin

  • @ballfire99
    @ballfire99 9 місяців тому +1

    Any chance of testing a spyder rs vs gt4rs or gt3 ? Wondering if the softer suspension of the spyder rs is better on the road in addition to the open top experience

  • @onlinesearch4134
    @onlinesearch4134 9 місяців тому

    Was waiting on this one. Nicely done. It’s no surprise the 4RS is the pick for many. A closer comparison would be the 991.2 RS. Both PDK and literally identical in front suspension. The steering input may be closer to the 4RS based on owner reviews of the 991.2 RS. The rear wheel steering would may give the edge to the 991.2 RS in the canyon and on track. In any case, you’re the man to get all these cars to the canyons. Stay safe and look forward to the next one.

  • @ThatCaymanGuy
    @ThatCaymanGuy 9 місяців тому +2

    your laugh is classic dude!

  • @tomlee9183
    @tomlee9183 9 місяців тому +1

    How does the RS compare to the black Spyder you tested a few months ago? Is that mines road btw?

  • @obiwan8393
    @obiwan8393 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video. It would be a tough call but my pick would be the gt4.

  • @rnlbluernlblue1380
    @rnlbluernlblue1380 Місяць тому

    Great review!!! I was in the fortunate position to drive both of these cars a few weeks ago. The GT3 was the 2022 and I drove the GT4RS first and was completely amazed by the sound. Unless you have been in this car to hear the sounds it makes you cannot understand. I also have a 458 with a full exhaust and the GT4RS sounds are on par if not better. I am a tried and true manual driver and am very partial, and the GT3 felt more touring and assisted than the 4RS. Was one of the best manuals I've driven but the 4RS won for me so I took it home! I am also lucky to have the magnesium rims and carbon ceramics too! Love it!!!

  • @AliasHSW
    @AliasHSW 9 місяців тому

    Saw a red GT4RS on 580 in Pleasanton yesterday. Looks stunning.

  • @anirudh_gqv
    @anirudh_gqv 9 місяців тому +2

    What location is this? I don’t believe there are any roads like this in Washington.

  • @palefaced1
    @palefaced1 7 місяців тому

    As someone who has owed 2 PDK gt3, 1 manual, a gt3rs, and now a gt4rs, I can say that the gt3rs is faster, but the Gt4rs is more fun. Haven't taking the 4rs to the track yet, but soon.

  • @CLaFong
    @CLaFong 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't think the people who get the opportunity to buy the GT4RS care that is is more expensive than the older 911 GT. The resale value on the GT4RS in its limited numbers will guarantee its resale value.

  • @YueHou
    @YueHou 9 місяців тому +2

    ps4s on gt3 is approaching 10k miles so need a fresh set of cup2 soon!

  • @CruiseControl1
    @CruiseControl1 9 місяців тому +2

    No bad Choices between these two. Cayman for me please 🙏

  • @MrGlexin
    @MrGlexin 9 місяців тому

    can you share the location?

  • @alvaro1728
    @alvaro1728 7 місяців тому

    Great video. Get a hold of a Ferrari 458 at some point to compare it to those amazing Porsches.

  • @jezhopo7221
    @jezhopo7221 4 місяці тому

    Changing back down to first whilst moving 😂

  • @TopherTubeTV
    @TopherTubeTV 9 місяців тому +1

    So if a change of tires would be so helpful to the 911, just imagine if the engine was moved to the middle!! 😃 Gotta love a manual transmission though ...

  • @VK6AB-
    @VK6AB- 9 місяців тому +2

    4RS every day of the week, there is something very special about the RS models a level of nuance, finesse and feel the standard GT4 or GT3 just don't have. The 991.2 GT3 is a great car the front track is just a bit narrow - the 991.2 GT3 RS really took the 991 series to another level with wider front track and tires giving phenomenal front end grip. The 992.1 GT3 is more or less a footprint and suspension copy of the 991.2 GT3 RS (but with double wishbone front) but the 991.2 GT3 RS remains significantly more visceral and engaging. TBH the 992 GT3 RS isn't much different, marginally quicker on fast open circuits.

    • @blazinpond
      @blazinpond 9 місяців тому

      Well said and definitely agree having owned (and thoroughly driven) all the cars you mentioned except the 992 3RS (my allocation is 'freezing' soon).

    • @onlinesearch4134
      @onlinesearch4134 9 місяців тому

      Yeah it would be a tough choice performance wise between the 991.2 RS and the 4RS. It may just come down to a few personal preferences: intake vs exhaust sound, visibility while driving, exterior looks, stance, etc.

    • @VK6AB-
      @VK6AB- 9 місяців тому

      @@onlinesearch4134 I like both, the footprint of the 4RS "feels" significantly smaller - gives it a real sense of intimacy. They both feel and look special, very attached to my 991.2 GT3 RS - has real "presence" 😀

  • @Just_Drivers_Cars
    @Just_Drivers_Cars Місяць тому

    This is not an either or. These are the two to own!!

  • @Cyua_
    @Cyua_ 9 місяців тому

    Always wondering how big the difference is between a GT3 and a Carrera T

  • @MrAnticaArte
    @MrAnticaArte 2 місяці тому

    Today we discovered the hot water:
    The Cayman is a better 911.

  • @Sayu2x
    @Sayu2x 9 місяців тому +2

    Ngl i would pay 30k more for that cabin noise

  • @billnorblat4047
    @billnorblat4047 9 місяців тому

    I prefer the driving balance of the cayman, but the manual transmission of the gt3

  • @WadeinWhiskey
    @WadeinWhiskey 2 місяці тому

    Mid engine RS. Chef’s kiss

  • @CesarMartinez-gl9ko
    @CesarMartinez-gl9ko 9 місяців тому +1

    Someone please get Fenton a 992 to review!!

  • @frederickcook87
    @frederickcook87 9 місяців тому

    Manual car all day everyday 👌🏾❤️👌🏾

  • @kenichitamagusuku3194
    @kenichitamagusuku3194 9 місяців тому

    How many ENGINES can do 9000 RPM

  • @philrice3375
    @philrice3375 Місяць тому

    Do you prefer the 991 or 992 GT3 manual?

    • @Zygrene
      @Zygrene  Місяць тому

      That exact comparison video goes live 5/26!

    • @philrice3375
      @philrice3375 Місяць тому

      Can’t wait, you are awesome

  • @DC5Brandon
    @DC5Brandon 9 місяців тому +1

    As good as the GT4RS is, it's still missing a manual, shorter gearing, and double wishbone to be perfect. Sadly, I doubt Porsche will build another generation with an internal combustion engine to make those adjustments.

    • @blazinpond
      @blazinpond 9 місяців тому

      Long gearing...really? Something tells me you haven't driven let alone, own one.

    • @DC5Brandon
      @DC5Brandon 9 місяців тому

      @@blazinpond My bad. All previous Caymans and the 981 GT4 are notorious for their long gearing, including my 987.2. Fortunately, Porsche fixed it on this last iteration.

    • @nls8520
      @nls8520 8 місяців тому +1

      Gearing is actually super short on this GT4RS. Rather, the manual transmission GT4's are the ones that are longer geared.

    • @DC5Brandon
      @DC5Brandon 8 місяців тому

      @@nls8520 You're right. I'd forgotten this fact since it launched. My Cayman's gearing on the other hand is still very long though 😅

  • @retrograde11
    @retrograde11 9 місяців тому

    Both great cars, but the price of admission is quite steep! How much does one have to make to be able to comfortably afford one of these without compromising their retirement / financial goals?

  • @NitroAdventure
    @NitroAdventure 9 місяців тому

    Would love to know how it the gt4rs compares to the 987 Cayman S is the DNA 🧬 there😅

    • @Zygrene
      @Zygrene  9 місяців тому

      The DNA is definitely there

  • @keithprice6581
    @keithprice6581 9 місяців тому +1

    A GT3, but you're even closer to the engine (i.e. the entire reason you wanted a GT3)

  • @fredericberthou
    @fredericberthou 9 місяців тому

    LA GT3 garde heureusement l’esthétique bien supérieure à n’importe quel booster 🥰👌

  • @PaPst74
    @PaPst74 7 місяців тому

    gt4 sound only inside , outside its a Dyson Hover ..... so bad sound outside

  • @bjj-vl2ut
    @bjj-vl2ut 9 місяців тому +1

    991 gt3 rs sound is good...

    • @bjj-vl2ut
      @bjj-vl2ut 9 місяців тому

      and gt4 rs is louder

  • @billnorblat4047
    @billnorblat4047 9 місяців тому

    If you can get your hands on a 718 Spyder, it's highly recommended. My favorite of them all.

    • @Zygrene
      @Zygrene  9 місяців тому

      I reviewed one recently! Actually I reviewed it twice. Both videos on the channel.

    • @billnorblat4047
      @billnorblat4047 9 місяців тому

      Right on. It's not the highest performing, but it is my favorite. The suspension is magic and what gives it the edge on the gt4 in my book. And I prefer the balance and feel of the 718 over the 9 eleven.

  • @billnorblat4047
    @billnorblat4047 9 місяців тому

    Obvious answer is BOTH

  • @ShadyGrady3
    @ShadyGrady3 Місяць тому

    a better sounding engine? Well, since you asked, the C8 ZO6's 5.5L FPC NA V8 @8600 RPM...AND you can own one for $125k out the door....AND it will be faster on most tracks.
    ....and please stop talking about how you feel understeer when you are driving 55 mph around a curve....we can tell you can't drive and are just regurgitating what real drivers have already said. Do better, just be you.

  • @jamaisvu2664
    @jamaisvu2664 9 місяців тому

    Calls a 74 mph 2nd gear short! *Laughs in Miata* but seriously a manual version with a shorter final drive would probably make the ultimate factory canyon car. Obviously with the right tuning you could build anything to be great though.

  • @andresmattos7541
    @andresmattos7541 9 місяців тому

    Comparing both horribly overpriced cars.

  • @ovadialevy478
    @ovadialevy478 9 місяців тому

    Rear isn’t nice
    That’s the main issue