Understanding Top and Bottom Layers: The Key to Perfecting Your 3D Prints

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  • @jackt3603
    @jackt3603 Рік тому +11

    Love the content delivery style, straight to the point, positive, humble, no unnecessary entertainment. Thank you!

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      Thanks for the kind words and I thank you very much for watching!

  • @michaelbosela3998
    @michaelbosela3998 Рік тому +10

    I’m a newbie to 3D printers, going on six weeks. I’m finding it’s difficult to get help from a forum due to my lack of proper terms and phases. You videos seem to adapt to my leave of knowledge ( or lack of knowledge) to easily walk through each step. After my 4 week of small disasters on a dozen prints nothing seemed to work. My first fear was entering the world of Cura until I watched your video. Now after several successful prints I’m actually enjoying this new hobby. Really, thank you, keep the faith One Layer At A Time.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +6

      I'm glad you found the channel! Every year at Christmas, a lot of people get their first 3D printer and turn to the online groups for help. Most of them get nothing but harassment instead of help. That's the reason I started this channel. Knowing that they are helping makes it all that more worth while to me. Thanks for the kind words and thank you very much for watching! Your comment made feel good about doing this again!

  • @remocampagna8780
    @remocampagna8780 Рік тому +17

    At last someone giving clear and concise relevant information,one topic at a time. If like me you are crazy busy all the time then this type of content at this length is perfect to get me from “ just get the thing printed” to next step forward in the cura learning curve. You have come up with the perfect format to teach this stuff. Ultimtimaker should employ you to make a full series starting in order at the first settings heading and working down the list as they appear on the drop-down menu this would take the learning time down to weeks instead of forever or “I will get to that some day “. This is truly awesome and so rare in these days of massive information overload. Thank you very much for the time and effort you have spent on this. If you were to make a series I for one would be happy to pay per episode. I look forward to any other videos you will be posting.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words! I'm happy to learn that these videos are useful!! I really appreciate it and I appreciate you watching as well! Thanks again!!

  • @wardle2066
    @wardle2066 2 місяці тому +1

    You are a life saver.
    I have an order for gold silk prints with large top layers ..... Two spools later and your advice has saved me!!
    FWIW, I have an old Ender 3 that I got from a guy in NY back in 2020. It has worked almost every day since then.
    Great content!!

  • @andyb7754
    @andyb7754 Рік тому +21

    For an old guy that needs a haircut, wait a minute, I'm describing myself! LOL! Anyway, I've learned a lot from your channel, thank you. Please keep the excellent informational videos coming (yes, I'm old and DO need a haircut!!). Thank you for what you do.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +2

      Rock on!

    • @nmfireman
      @nmfireman Рік тому

      Do you think it would be possible to show the settings in bamboo studio? Sometimes some of the terms are not the same between both slicers enjoyed the video very much give me a lot to think about.

  • @kevinhenry61
    @kevinhenry61 Місяць тому +1

    A lot of useful information. Straight to the point, easy to follow, no going off on a tangent that is not related to the subject of the video. Going to give your suggestions a try on a print I'm having problems with. Subscribed. Thank you for posting.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Місяць тому

      Thanks for the kind words. I hope this video helps!!! Thanks for watching & for the sub!

  • @AdventuresonTour
    @AdventuresonTour Рік тому +1

    This makes way more sense than ironing.. Thanks for the help, what a world of difference this has done over ironing for me.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      Thanks for the kind words. I have to admit, I'm not a fan of ironing myself. Thanks for watching!

  • @wholebuncha1844
    @wholebuncha1844 Рік тому +1

    Monotonic order, there's a new setting to play with, and line direction too! great vid

  • @Lerbrandt
    @Lerbrandt 5 місяців тому +3

    Fantastic video, this channel deserves a lot more subscribers.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I guess I'm not entertaining enough for more subscribers!!!

    • @Lerbrandt
      @Lerbrandt 5 місяців тому +2

      @@pushingplastic7445 No quite the contrary. Just need to keep at it and be blessed by the algorithm. :D

  • @TechBrewGamer
    @TechBrewGamer 10 місяців тому +1

    I am going to set my top and bottom layers to 1.28 .. your logic checks out with what I have seen with other prints and the top layers having holes in it.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  10 місяців тому

      Awesome! Those will some thick top & bottoms!!! Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!

  • @teeyeet
    @teeyeet 9 місяців тому +1

    very helpful info in this video, thank you for what you do!

  • @memicali2468
    @memicali2468 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for this!! I have been watching a lot of videos and i had still been getting top layers that looked... off. The advice i got was "under extrusion" but it was only on the top layer so it was weird, but my top/bottom settings were very thin, and that's what's been causing my issues all along!
    Very simple, helpful video! I will be suscribing and bingewatching everything i can lol

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  7 місяців тому

      Awesome, I'm glad this helped! I appreciate you watching and thrill that you subscribed!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

    • @alphaquinon1688
      @alphaquinon1688 7 місяців тому

      Hey, it is what I have been experiencing too, but on the bottom laher. What you did to fix that?

  • @rewster9864
    @rewster9864 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic Video! Your script and presentation are very professional. Subscribed. Keep up the great work.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      Thank you very much! I'm still new to this, earlier videos has some serious audio issues! Thanks for watching and thanks for subscribing!

  • @Magin68
    @Magin68 Рік тому +1

    Well done video presented in an organized manner. Kuddos.
    I don't use ironing in my prints as I just love the look of a nice top layer. My trouble has been getting rid of those drag marks running diagnally against the grain, GRRR. I'll try your tips on monotonic and "not in skin" combing. Thanks

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +1

      Same here. I prefer the look of the lines. Ironing is nice, but you're still going to see the layer lines on the vertical surfaces anyways. I'm sure there will a project someday when I'll need ironing again. Thanks for watching!

  • @Mikey_xx_
    @Mikey_xx_ Рік тому +1

    Great info. I was updating my Cura as you were explaining things. FYI I find I need to turn up my speakers for this video. Not sure if all are recorded so softly, but if so...

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      Sorry about the audio. In the early videos I really struggled with it. I'm still trying to work out my audio. Getting better at it, but still need to improve! Thanks for watching!

  • @kimcanada
    @kimcanada Місяць тому +1

    Thank you very much for your shared deep knowledge.

  • @QuietMikeW
    @QuietMikeW 8 місяців тому +1

    thank you for informing me about Monotonic Order......I've been wanting the printer to do this forever - top surfaces around holes always have that weird striping because it skips the sections and goes back later.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  7 місяців тому

      Awesome! I'm a big fan of monotonic ordering myself! I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

  • @FlightLogProductions
    @FlightLogProductions 9 місяців тому +2

    In regards to Ironing, I actually found best results with FAST ironing. I iron at 110mm/s, 25% flow, 0.25mm Inset, 10% overlap, and .02 line spacing.. (on my AnyCubic Vyper). It's quick and my top surface is as smooth as a baby's bottom.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  9 місяців тому +1

      I don't do a lot of ironing, but I will have to give those settings a go! IF it works out, maybe I'll use it more often! Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!

  • @a7xfanben
    @a7xfanben 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video, thank you for the explanations.

  • @christopherlyons7613
    @christopherlyons7613 Місяць тому +1

    Great video, thanks. Wondering if you have any experience with Orca slicer. Looking at these same issues when using Orca. If you do, any chance of putting together this same discussion using Orca?

  • @mikewenger4775
    @mikewenger4775 4 місяці тому +1

    hey man I really appreciated this video you've been a great help dude

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you, I really do appreciate those kind words and thanks for watching!!

    • @mikewenger4775
      @mikewenger4775 4 місяці тому

      @@pushingplastic7445 I watched a couple of your videos between last night and this morning and I really appreciate how clear and on topic your videos are it's so hard to find exactly the information you need sometimes I really can't thank you enough man

  • @Music47832
    @Music47832 8 місяців тому +1

    THank you so much. I fixed top layer.

  • @antonioscrittorale1718
    @antonioscrittorale1718 Рік тому +1

    Hello I really like the way you and you do not talk a mile a minute so it's east to follow when you explain things. They are clear and easy to understand. I have a BIG request though you use Creality Ender printers and that's fine except for us who use Creality CR6-SE and CR6 Max where some of the required instructions cannot be preformed. It would be fantastic if you could videos that cover the same topics that reflect these printers. I have issues I can not seem to fix with the extruder and hot end that you solve in videos for the CR Series series.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      I'll try to my best! I went with the Ender 3 since a lot of people got those around Christmas time and were struggling with them. I had one that was completely stock, still in the box. I'll see what I can do about working other printers into the series.

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy Рік тому +2

    Excellent dissertation

  • @Halenstimbertime
    @Halenstimbertime 3 місяці тому +1

    Say Bill I’m 69 so getting a late start to 3D printing Because of YOU Im light years ahead of where I would be without You I hope Everyone realizes Your Quality and Value!

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  3 місяці тому +1

      Wow! I am truly humbled by those kind words! I appreciate them. Remember, you're never to old, in fact, I'm not far behind you. But you're not getting as late of a start as some. A few months back I got a message from an 83 year that just got his first 3D printer! How are you enjoying 3D Printing so far?

  • @TurboGlenn
    @TurboGlenn 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I'm new and running Bambu Studio and can't find Monotonic Layer Ordering. Is that on by default or don't have it?

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  5 місяців тому +1

      In Bambu Studio, Click on the Strength tab. It's under Top/Bottom Shells. Look for Top Surface Pattern and/or Bottom Surface Pattern. I hope this helps! Thanks for watching!!!

  • @danialjavann8754
    @danialjavann8754 Рік тому +2

    Thank you very much for teaching us this practical tutorial
    The reason why the object is misprinted is because of not using Curera's advanced options.
    Many options should be set according to the type of shape and we ignore it
    We would be happy if you could explain more about the other options of Cura for better printing. get better
    Thank you for your efforts, great master🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @deltajohnny
    @deltajohnny Рік тому +1

    You explain things very well 👏👏

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +1

      You've been busy watching a lot of videos! Thanks for all of the kind words, they are much appreciated! I hope the information helped! Keep on the printing!

    • @deltajohnny
      @deltajohnny Рік тому +1

      @@pushingplastic7445 Yess! Lots of vídeos to enjoy 😁😁😁

  • @mcorrade
    @mcorrade Рік тому +1

    agreed with all you said (especially ironing) but I use CHEP profiles and he has most of the settings you talked about done (great minds think alike) :).....I did find that my Mono bottom layer was not checked so thank for that

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      Glad you agree! CHEP's a good guy to the 3D Printing community and puts out some great profiles! Thanks for watching!

  • @jameshooper6165
    @jameshooper6165 Рік тому +1

    Great information. Thank you!

  • @nakleh
    @nakleh Рік тому +1

    Great video, thank you! I learned a lot. You just earned a new subscriber here!

  • @skrie
    @skrie 11 місяців тому +1

    I wish I could specify the layers I want to Iron from the slicer. I tried manually changing the gcode, but I got confused and didn't dare to run that code.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  11 місяців тому

      That would be awesome, but unfortunately it's only the top layers that can be ironed....

  • @gordonrain7152
    @gordonrain7152 8 місяців тому +1

    Oh, BTW, I just Subscribed (I'm always forgetting to do that) to your channel because being an old buggar myself (and nost likely needing a haircut too) you speak my language...and with patience. ALSO...for those out there using Orca Slicer you'll find the 'Monotonic Ordering' located under 'Strength'/ 'Top/bottom shells'/ and inside the 'pattern' multi-choice settings...HTH.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for those kind words! Forget the haircut, if you've got it, flaunt it! Someday we'll be a hot commodity in the nursing homes! The only geezers still sporting our own hair. Thanks for watching and thanks for subscribing!

    • @gordonrain7152
      @gordonrain7152 8 місяців тому +1

      @@pushingplastic7445 LOL. "...The only geezers still sporting our own hair..." Funny you say that because I was just having a conversation about that the other day, because when I was young, I always thought I'd be nearly bald by the time I was on the leeward side of 30-something, but I'm now pushing almost 70yo and I still have a (almost) full head of hair like you...life is a funny thing. I know you kinda concentrate on Cura most of the time but all of your pointers are definitely valuable, even if I have to 'translate' some of it over to Orca and Simplify3D for my usage...keep up the good work!

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  8 місяців тому

      @@gordonrain7152 Thanks! Just a few minutes ago I was left a comment "Nice wig". I guess you can't be older with a full head of hair and a bad haircut! I started off with a lot Cura videos and have been trying to add some Orca and Creality Print as well.

  • @matthewwainwright8844
    @matthewwainwright8844 4 місяці тому

    Does Creality Print auto update the amount of layers of if I manually put 1.2mm on the top and bottom?

  • @juanpizzo
    @juanpizzo Рік тому +1

    me encanto el video, un saludo desde Argentina

  • @weisthor0815
    @weisthor0815 Рік тому +1

    Hello there. Very informative video, it helped a lot.
    I am very new to 3d-printing and still figuring it out. I am printing a testcube over an over again to get the best results. Everything looks fine by now but the bottom layer still has fine lines visible.
    Is there anything i can do to make the bottom layer as smooth as the top layer?
    Thanks!

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      Lines in the bottom layer are one of two things. The print bed might be slightly out of level. The worse the lines look, the more the bed is out of level. It could be a warp in the bed. The other could be the print bed material. I use glass on a lot of my printers and the bottom surface always looks better than the top since there is no texture on the glass. When you start a print, watch the first layer go down. If you're seeing gaps or blobs in your first layer, check the bed leveling. If it goes down fine, I would look at the print bed material. Post back and let me know what you see! Thanks for watching!

  • @geekverve
    @geekverve 2 місяці тому +1

    I’ve always found ironing to produce inconsistent quality across larger surfaces. I don’t really use it at all anymore.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Місяць тому

      Some people swear by ironing. I've never been a big fan of it. Like you, I'm not getting consistent quality. Thanks for the comment & thanks for watching!

  • @jameslenar1732
    @jameslenar1732 Рік тому +3

    Good INFO THANKS!

  • @Z32orDIe
    @Z32orDIe Рік тому

    Does voxelmaker have a similar setting as monotonic ordering? Appreciate video. I may have to switch slicers

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому

      I honestly don't know. I've never run voxelmaker before. But monotonic ordering is becoming more and more popular among different slicers, it might be there under a different command name. Sorry I'm not able to help on this one.

  • @primetimeturner_YT
    @primetimeturner_YT Рік тому

    do you think you should use concentric or lines for prints like a helmet? there are certain parts of the helmet that I am not sure will look more cohesive if they are concentric or with monotonic lines 😵‍💫
    edit: Also, what do you think about using ironing on a helmet print?

  • @alirezabayat6388
    @alirezabayat6388 Рік тому

    I found that z hop leaves spikes on the flat surfaces and disabling it didn't have any downsides either

  • @SuperBoppy
    @SuperBoppy Рік тому +1

    Great video. Thanks. Liked and Subscribed.

  • @chetnaprajapati9483
    @chetnaprajapati9483 8 місяців тому

    My one job bottom dia 32 mm and 1 mm length middle dia 20 mm and 10 mm length after top dia 32 mm 1mm length total length for job 22 mm
    Cura default settings slice problem bottom 3 layer and top 5 layer so top and bottom thikness note maintain how solve

  • @originalSPECTER
    @originalSPECTER Рік тому +1

    My top layers seem to be amazing, but my bottom layers are horrific. I've got them set up the same in terms of size and number etc... Been pulling my hair out trying to figure out what's going wrong. Also having major stringing all of a sudden.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +1

      The bottom layers could be as simple as the bed not being level or oil from your your hands getting on the print bed when removing the previous print. For the stringing, I would run a temperature tower, then do a flow cube and finish up by printing a retraction tower to dial it n your settings. I have videos for each of those items on my channel. Thanks for the comment & thanks for watching!

    • @originalSPECTER
      @originalSPECTER Рік тому +1

      @@pushingplastic7445 Will do. Thank you!

  • @printing3d859
    @printing3d859 4 місяці тому

    Could you upload a file leaving the configuration files please?

  • @pennerbert1721
    @pennerbert1721 Рік тому

    Please add to your Video Topic that u handle Cura

  • @skrie
    @skrie Рік тому

    Everything you said worked for PLA... but PETG has been a problem for me and nothing seems to work except adding a ridiculous amount of toplayers. Strangely, the slower I print the toplayer, the worse it looks. It's almost as if the heat needed for printing PETG negatively impacts the toplayer quality when printing too long and slow on a small area.

  • @perniculous
    @perniculous 4 місяці тому

    Great info, thanks

  • @hectorhenry9841
    @hectorhenry9841 Рік тому +1

    Hi Bill! Thank you for your amazing content. You've literally saved me from giving up on 3D printing. Quick question: Is Ultimaker Cura free / open sourced? My printer came with software which seems to use Cura in the background, so I would rather just use Cura directly. Edit: typos.

    • @pushingplastic7445
      @pushingplastic7445  Рік тому +2

      Yes! Absolutely a free download and is open source. I’m not sure what slicer you currently have. Some brands, like Creality ship with a stripped down version of Cura. I hope this helps and thanks for watching!

  • @wfs1965
    @wfs1965 Рік тому +1

    Thnx boss, appreciated

  • @davidfarris1332
    @davidfarris1332 Рік тому +1

    Great video! New sub.