Piers Morgan SLAMS Baby Reindeer Real Life Martha as "Unstable, Obsessive & Threatening Stalker!?"
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- Piers Morgan SLAMS Baby Reindeer Real Life Martha "Unstable, Obsessive & Threatening Stalker!?"
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Excerpt from New York Post
Combative ‘Baby Reindeer’ subject Fiona Harvey rang suspicious alarm bells - but she may also be a victim
The Netflix show “Baby Reindeer” has become a sensation, skyrocketing to No. 1 on the streaming service in 30 countries, including the US. Created by and starring Scottish comedian Richard Gadd, the show is based on his real-life experience. The psychological thriller centers around Donny (Gadd), a struggling comedian who meets Martha (Jessica Gunning) during a bartending gig. The encounter quickly spirals into a terrifying stalking case.
The real Martha has now come forward, claiming Gadd’s version of the story is “completely untrue.”
“Very, very defamatory to me, very career-damaging. And I wanted to rebut that completely on this show. I’m not a stalker. I’ve not been to jail, I’ve not got injunctions. And this is just complete nonsense,” Fiona Harvey, 58, said on “Piers Morgan Uncensored,” which aired Thursday. “I find it quite obscene. I find it horrifying, misogynistic.”
Excerpt from Daily Record
Baby Reindeer's real life Martha demands £1m for Piers Morgan interview after £250 offer
Fiona Harvey is in a cash war with Piers Morgan after an explosive interview that has been viewed millions of times on his UA-cam channel.
The real-life Martha from Baby Reindeer last night slammed the £250 offered by Piers Morgan’ s firm for her exclusive interview.
Fiona Harvey, 58, is fuming after her appearance on his UA-cam Uncensored show made the host at least £250,000 already.
Excerpt from Business Insider
The woman outed as the alleged 'Baby Reindeer' stalker said she felt 'used' in Piers Morgan interview, where he asked her if she loves Richard Gadd
A woman who was outed by "Baby Reindeer" fans as the alleged stalker of the true crime drama's creator and lead actor said she felt "used" by Piers Morgan in an interview about the Netflix series.
"Baby Reindeer" tells a fictionalized version of creator Richard Gadd's experiences with stalking, and has become a worldwide phenomenon since its release in April. That month, an unnamed woman who was outed on social media as "the real Martha Scott" told the Daily Mail she was considering taking legal action against Gadd and Netflix for the harassment she has faced as a result of viewers trying to track her down.
On Wednesday, Morgan revealed he had interviewed Fiona Harvey, believed to be the woman first interviewed by the Daily Mail. The interview will be released Thursday at 3pm ET on Morgan's UA-cam channel, Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Excerpt from The Independent
Real-life Martha Scott from Baby Reindeer sits down for tell-all Piers Morgan interview
The show has already sparked a backlash among viewers
The woman who allegedly inspired Richard Gadd’s hit Netflix series Baby Reindeer will give her first TV interview this Thursday (9 May).
In the series, comedian Richard Gadd plays a fictionalised version of himself who gets stalked by a lonely and mentally ill woman called Martha, whom he meets while working at a pub.
Following the series’ success curious fans have tried to discover the inspirations behind the show, which members of the cast have vehemently discouraged.
Scottish lawyer Fiona Harvey, 58, who has been labelled the ‘real Martha’ has received death threats from Baby Reindeer viewers and will speak on Piers Morgan Uncensored to “set the record straight after being unmasked by fans”.
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Not being convicted of stalking doesn’t mean you’re not a psycho narcissistic stalker ! My ex-boyfriend has been stalking me for 21 years BUT has never been arrested for it !!!
Very few stalkers are actually convicted. Her being convicted in the series was to her benefit in my opinion. It made the character more sympathetic.
@@cocoknows I completely agree and I don’t think she’s going to sue anyone because she knows she sent all those emails and voicemails and letters and I’m sure that people who also worked at the pub while she was stalking him there would testify that she was crazy !
100%!!! I have had 2 stalkers in the last 20 years. The court system does very little to protect those being harassed. Look at Taylor Swift. They let her stalker go and he just went right back to stalker her ny apt. It’s awful.
@@icecreamadventure unfortunately it’s very true that stalking is often not taken seriously ! Which is why so many victims of stalking end up being m**dered ! I have a lifetime restraining order against my ex BUT he still stalks me from afar ! He just stays the 100 yards away as it state’s in the restraining order ! There needs to be stricter laws against stalker’s especially people that have a history of stalking MANY people !!
I'm sorry that has happened to you. Awful
I’m disgusted at the ammount of people victim blaming Richard Gadd. If Fiona didn’t want to be seen or found she would do everything she could to erase that shit from the internet, it’s her own fault that people are finding out who she is. That’s not to say that she deserves to get death threats or anything, but that isn’t Netflix’s or Richard’s fault. That’s the fault of the countless self righteous arseholes who decided “I’ll defend Richard Gadd by sending a death threat to someone who Richard has moved on from and is wanting to leave the fuck alone”
Facts! And all this nonsense is eclipsing the SA storyline which has a lot of people upset.
THANK YOU I couldn’t say it better
I agree. It’s not necessarily a popular opinion but I wouldn’t have bothered to find her and/or even known about her until she did a rag interview. She’s left her Facebook profile on public, her Tweets are out there for everyone to see STILL and I refuse to dictate how anyone should feel/react after becoming a victim of Grape. I’m tired of hearing about the woman, it’s completely ruined the entire point of the series.
Victim blaming means blaming someone for something they are a victim of by saying 'he was asking for it/he got what he deserved'. Not sure what its got to do with the rest of what you said. He's not the victim in the rest of your statement. If anything he says he encouraged her so theres no place to 'blame' him for her stalking him cos he blames himself... and you can't be the victim of something bad that happened to someone else so, he's not the victim of her gettting harrassed.
I 100000% agree ! I think because it’s a woman stalking a man ALOT of people don’t think it’s that serious ! Had it been Richard stalking Fiona this conversation would be completely different !! IMO
Netflix and Piers are not responsible for other stalkers who seek to identify her. She is responsible for her acts (and the repercussions of her actions), and if she not a stalker, let her prove it in court.
She doesn't have to prove it. The onus is on the accuser. That's the way the law works.
Netflix put the information out there for everyone to see. They know damn well that this s*** happens when you do that. So yes it is on them
She didn’t have to come forward to be honest. But I agree with you they aren’t responsible for any of this. The public found her and she came forward and denied a lot and admitted to what could be proved 😂
Can I recommend a book? "So, you've been publicly shamed" by Jon Ronson- it illustrates just how bad things can go when public shaming happens to people- it's a great read.
She’s no victim. She’s an expert in making people believe she is and it looks like she’s got quite a few people fooled.
100% agree with you.
the world is a rather stupid place
I see some comments that say Richard is psycho and Martha is innocent mentally unstable I think thoughs are the people who have not watched the series
I'd say she is a victim of her own mental health issues which she seems to be denying in the interview with Piers (rather badly)- stalkers are definately not well mentally, but Richard Gadd was largely the victim and has come to terms with his own demons. I'd hazard a guess that Fiona, possibly highly narcissistic, is absolutely furious that Richard has had so much success with the show and getting so much attention from the public whilst she is outed. Just an opinion, I could be completely wrong.
@@alexmousley7213💯%
A lawyer has confirmed she was stalked by Fiona
Convicted or hear say
I think Netflix is in the clear. At the end of the credits it states, “This program is based on real events: however certain characters, names, incidents, locations, and dialogue have been fictionalized for dramatic purposes”.
Yep and it only says THIS IS A TRUE STORY at the start of the first episode I think, it's definitely not on the last episodes where she's in court.
@@HanChap2 every episode.
@@serinadelmar6012 where does it say it's a true story on every episode? I've scoured every episode and only seen it type written on the first. Other than that, on every episode on the end credits, it says it's based on the play written by Richard. Unless my television and netflix is showing a different version of the same show 🤷
The stalker becomes the stalked and she's gonna cry about it? Karma
It's shocking right. I think you're missing the part she's evidentally mentally ill and two wrongs don't make a right, though..
Poor mental health is no excuse for abuse, she knew what she was doing and she knows stalking is a crime, she refuses to hold herself accountable and denies her behaviour, that shows she will do it again to others and she is not remorseful for what she has done
Why is everyone forgetting that Richard gadd said in a interview that the court scene didn't happen and how it got resolved is to be kept private, Anyone with common sense would realise that all True story shows have some changes, straight away they are using different names Donny and Martha, Fiona came out herself, Fiona is now getting a taste what she gave, I don't see any support for the actual victim here, its all just poor Fiona
If a "True story" has been changed it isn't really true is it? "Based on a true story" is what it should say.
That's what I was gonna say!! He said that court scene didn't happen.
because when a man comes out about being abused they do whatever they can to invalidate it
From what I remember hearing from another page covering this is that no one has been able to provide a source for that interview where he supposedly said that.
If anybody has that source, that would be great.
I have 0 sympathy for someone who outed herself and went on international television for attention.
I’m not sure if anyone caught this, but the end credits do say some elements of the story were fictionalized. I was surprised to see that ‘cause no one mentioned it. But it is right there.
People reading the credits? People don't have the attention span to make it to the credits, let alone sit thru them or read them lol, if it isn't in the first 5 min people won't catch it.
Wow, then imo Netflix should have said something at the beginning like "Based on a true story. Some elements have been fictionalized."
@@Jen7867That’s pretty much common knowledge, because if things were presented exactly as they happened, it wouldn’t make for good tv. The true story is that the guy had a stalker who made his life hell. That’s the gist of the story, and it’s true.
The thing is that one of the producers from Netflix testified before Parliament stated it was a true story and then discussed how they were protecting the actual people.
@@JohnDoe-jj4qd I would think piers morgan would have fact checkers on staff who are paid to have the attention span.
Let's not forget she also has a photographic memory but forgot things she'd just mentioned in the interview.
"Photographic memory" generally means things that are seen, fewer have the kind for sound ... especially their own speech. Still, forgetting things you just said is not good.
Netflix did what they could...
Netflix can't be held responsible for a tweet or post that the real life martha (Fiona) made in 2014 !!!...
Well, they used that real life tweet in the series, which made it easy to identify her, so I don't see your point?
@@missJolie85 But a victim should be able to tell their stories.
@@cocoknows He was also hiding her identity while telling HIS story, and he should have done a better job at that. It wasn’t like he was telling his story with name and all. There are other people as well who has been (falsely) identified.
Trying to get money out of Piers Morgan speaks volumes.
He's making millions off her - why shouldn't she get compensated adequately ~ it's her life that's been turned upside down - and Richard's. Why should Piers make ANY money from it?
Neither are whiter than white but I’ll never forget Millie Dowler and he shouldn’t be allowed to either.
@@philstrachan It's Richard's story period. Nobody else has any claim or right to it. Why would you pay your stalker? The idea of that is ludicrous.
@@annatetiad.4991 i meant Piers, not Richard.
He's a hypocrite. Piers basically stalled Meghan and harry on all media platforms to hound them
It's completely eerie how The actress who played Martha and Fiona were so similar
and the similarities being they are both fat? like there are no similarities at all in their appearance but if your talking about her acting on the show then u are right
@@deib2719 I was talking about their looks. The mannerisms and how she would laugh and look at you like they are reading you in and out.
@@deib2719 Yes looks, but also mannerism, tone of voice and dialect etc...
@@deib2719 How she holds her glass, how she looks around, how she speak are you kidding mee? It's not JUST how she looks Lmfao they are IDENTICAL
Poor Jessica 😂
She isn't a skilled liar 'I don't know where he lived', 'I might have sent him a letter' what did she do, guess his address
Pub or theatre. ?
Did you watch the interview?? She sent it to the theatre.
The letter she admitted to, was sent to the theatre
He followed her to her house and peeped through her window! Let's just acknowledge facts...
@@kbbbnnnnnnnnnnn she denied that, it was on the show and the show takes liberties with facts so its not facts as you state
She's got 4 phones and can't buy a drink?
Fiona's nephew, Kyle Muir, came out on Facebook on Piers Morgan's thread and called his aunt a liar. He also made his own post. He says she went under her maiden name Muir NOT Harvey and was jailed for 4 months for stalking. Her full name, Fiona Muir Harvey, is touched upon in the beginning of Piers interview she said she dropped the Muir and goes by Harvey...so MAYBE people should be looking up her Maiden name Muir for the stalking charges and not the last name Harvey.
It was a hoax
He has since come out and said he is not related to her, it was a hoax...
I heard that wasn't real. I'm skeptical of a random post on FB, even though I fully think this woman deserves anything she's getting at this moment.
What Piers is failing to mention is that at the end of the series, Netflix issued a disclaimer saying that location, scenes and dialogue have been altered for dramatic effect. By having this statement after the credits they have covered themselves so Fiona Harvey cannot sue. there is no duty of care issue. If The public have attacked her that’s on them not on Netflix. In fact Richard Gadd has publicly said stop trying to find who these people are. Fiona is the one who came forward,she has contributed to her own defamation. Piers Morgan is the one who is taking advantage and misrepresenting the truth. To quote Fiona, even if she didn’t get charged that does not mean she’s not a stalker. Most stalkers get away with it and it annoys me that she’s being referred to as a victim. This is just the price you pay for wanting attention, which she has. I’m sure if genders were reversed and Fiona was a male no one in their right mind would consider them a victim for stalking a woman.
Look what Netflix did to Johnny Depp, despite the verdict in Virginia! They crucified him a second time. He could have taken them to Court, but by not giving it any oxygen, it quickly died. Even the second try with Elaine, no interest.
I really hate to show my ignorance but what did they do to Johnny Depp? I saw quite a bit of that Virginia trial but I don’t think I ever heard anything about this part…
@@TheDonna200 Right after the trial, they made a movie about them, and the trial. Neither of them watched the trial, nor heard the audio and the filming! It was hideously bias towards AH, and against Johnny. Much like the Dateline interview, no one watched it. A few UA-cam channels did, which is when Andy realized they took his content, and others, and slapped a copywrite on it! It clearly had everybody's own copywrite, but Netflix said try it. So, a few attorneys offered their time, and are getting everyone's content back. Netflix lost a ton of money. So, two components happened with that.
When I looked up if Fiona Harvey had a different last name I found out that she did. It was Muir-Harvey. And if you look up Fiona Muir there is where you can find her convicted case. At least her older one.
Richard Gadd has said in an interview that the court scene was dramatised, he did not take it to prosecution….
I still don't understand how she can claim the show isn't true when she has clearly stated she hasn't watched it! 🙄🙄🙄
I mean any made for TV show based on true story typically adds that some parts or the story are dramatized. Common sense also tells me parts of the show are enhanced for entertainment purposes.
I think Fiona made things worse for herself by doing the interview.
Agree
My girlfriend thinks I’m a stalker, well she’s not exactly my girlfriend yet.😂
I'm with my soon-to-be wife now.
Should I tell her I'm here?
I'm with my soon-to-be wife now!
Should I tell her I'm here?
You’ve already used that one, mate.
@@kevinpoole6122😆🚀
😂😂😂
Artististic licence has been around forever. I don’t understand why the real life Martha came out of the woodworks? If she had just ignored everything then this would have blown over. Gadds story is real for him. He went through something. Why all the sympathy for this deluded woman is beyond me. This is Gadds story. Just because real Martha wants her 10 seconds of fame does take away that Gadd went through something that changed his life. As an artist, Gadd took the crap he experienced and transformed it into his comedy routine and then this TV show. Gadd is the victim of bad decisions and he honestly says so in the show.
It literally says in the credits that some of the information is dramatised, and Richard Gadd went on morning telly saying the real Martha wasn’t convicted and it was dramatised. Why aren’t people including that when debating about this?
If she couldn’t afford a cup of tea, how can she afford 4 phones?
funny how people keep saying how easy it is to confirm if she's convicted or not, yet nobody has...
She was very reactive.
In my inexpert opinion, she behaved exactly as an obsessive stalker would. That doesn't mean she is one.
I have some sympathy, especially if she is getting bombarded.
A true story is an oxymoron.
so on what did the actress then base the speech pattern if she had nothing to go by? Thats a question to ask. Its very likely she heard the audios. Or how else did she observe that? Real life Martha there was no footage online to go imitate or base the acting on, right?
Piers could of picked her up on alot. I think he was fair and probably thought, she doesen't need another shovel. 😳
It wouldn’t be exploitative if they had protected Fiona. I blame Netflix for this not Richard Gadd. I think Gadd has every right to put this story out but Netflix should have done their due diligence to make sure she wasn’t indentifiable. I know she said she had no choice but to come forward as people were harassing her online but I do think it would have blown over and the majority of people who’d seen the show wouldn’t know who she is, now everyone knows her and can see how close to the Netflix character she is.
Nah.
She left her FB and Twitter accounts up with all the damning evidence one would need to mount a story or a case.. Why does she do that?
@@LyndaHill apparently they were old shut down accounts but people somehow still founds the old tweets 🤷🏻♀
@@suzpeden You're saying that she shut down her FB and Twitter accounts?
@@LyndaHill I’m saying that the accounts that these old tweets were made on were shut down a long time ago, Fiona’s and Gadds. This is what I heard, on I think it was this channel.. I don’t know how the old tweets can still be found but they were. So I just think Netflix should have made sure they couldn’t be discovered by the public. I think they would have the infrastructure and everything to do this.
Watch the whole interview again from beginning to end look at her body language that's how you know when somebody's lying
The film should say "based on a true story"
If you look at the name she used to use before harvey, she has in fact been arrested for stalking. And she did 4 months.. her nephew has come forward to say everything was true that was said about her
That nephew is just a random kid on Facebook with the common Scottish last name Muir. He has since posted that he did it as a prank but it got out of control. All the UA-camrs and rumor-mongerers who reported on this ought to be ashamed. It's patently false. Check your facts.
Wow!
Fiona was VERY far from a skilled liar. She sucked at it. Morgan came off as a little like Gadd in the interview. He seemed to feel sorry for her and take it easy on her. He didn’t call out any of her lies or the number of times she contradicted herself during the interview, right in front of him.
I can't stop thinking that Fiona and the "victim" are in this together to make money. They are both as odd as each other and both will make a fortune from books, the show, maybe suing Netflix and interviews. Th3 whole situation is totally bizarre and neither knew is being totally honest!
Stop blaming the victim Richard & Netflix to pursue this story in a negative way. She's a stalker who made this man's life a living hell. She emotionally destroyed him. She's loving all this attention right now, don't give this narcissistic psychopath anymore limelight. She thrives on it, stop talking about it, you're feeding the beast!!!!
the definition of a stalker is, when two people go on a romantic walk, but only one of them knows about it.😂
I see you repeating this everywhere
@@LUCKSREVENGE its so weird. i’ve seen this exact comment 25 times
This is the third time I’m reading this comment by you on various channels.
How many times have I seen this now-oh, wait! Your screen name says it all. 🤪
Steph they didn’t use the real names, thus not true
I had a stalker once, about 14 years ago. (Turned out to be my maintenance man who I never talked to, he saw me pay my rent in the office once and that was it) the scariest time of my life, state troopers had cameras in my apartment bc the dude was coming in as I was sleeping and we didn’t know how! Turns out he had all the keys but long story short…I’m damaged to this day bc of it. Maybe damaged is the wrong word but I may have a diagnosis now lol
Piers gonna come home to a half naked Ms Santa waiting in his closet 😂
I don’t care how true it is or not probably Richard Gadd is 85 percent more true than Martha, it was a brilliant series all round, acting, creativity, writing and look now what is happening, craziness
Tiger king vibes she didn't get paid and exposed herself for aknowledgement. I need to go clean my car.
well if you have media outlets calling asking for a comment or they will go to press w/o it.. wouldn't you say something? not mention strangers calling/contacting threatening you.. not saying she is innocent of anything just saying...you would want to try to control the narrative somehow
@@Lisa-co9ng Yes true.
I remember weeks ago that Richard Gadd said there was no arrest in one of his interviews. And in terms of a television program or movie, do they not dramatize some elements for drama, and viewer closure for more disturbing content? In LakeView Terrace, Sam Jackson was arrested whereas the real victims of his behavior are (as of last year) were still looking over their shoulders. Some elements of Dahmer were fictionalized as well. I thought that was a well known thing as far as televised dramas go. It’s different from documentaries that do require straight fact. Now, if you’re saying this is a documentary, then this is a much different type of documentary than I have ever seen without inclusion of witnesses, or people directly associated with the case involved. This type of discourse just makes me feel as though this is a complete phaque to idea of victims coming forward with their stories; as though they need to also be sure to protect the person that victimized them.
Yes! Well said.
The problem is at the start of each episode it says "this is a true story" not based on a true story. Apparently in the end credits they have a disclaimer that some parts may be embellished but no one reads end credits especially on Netflix
she is exposed herself, nobody isn't done that, even netflix. even richard gadd isn't talked about her real idendity.
Seems common knowledge that she sent the letter to the theatre. Sure the show said it was 106 pages (could be one letter).
She could have paid Sunshine Saks to wipe her record. Allegedly, Doria Ragland had her record wiped.
Right
Lol true
By that argument then Piers Morgan is exploiting the real life Martha. Even though it was confusing and Netflix said True Story and then in smaller letters based on emotions or some events may be fictionalized, we knew we were not watching a documentary and knew the names were changed etc. The only issue I have is with Netflix duty of care not protecting the real life identities better so that the real people cannot be identified. As for Richard Gadd, he is an amazing, brave, talented person. He did not realize this was going to get as big as it did (life imitating art though) and I applaud him for making the show!
Fiona said that she posted the letter to Richard’s workplace not his home address
Please sue, woman. Please!! 😅 We want discovery.
I think she finally messed with the wrong person, and her crazy ways caught up with the 1 person who would hit her where it seriously hurts. Karma
“with an an Asterix” 😂😂😂
It is important to remain objective and question everything. We don't know either of these people. They both could be lying.
When the stalker / criminal is turned into the victim.
Look up her surname. The one she changed it from. Muir or something like that.
Understanding that she outed herself. She identified herself as the real life, Martha because she was unhappy with the actress portraying her. Pretty sure she also said terrible things about the actress. I can’t remember my source but I’m pretty sure she can’t sue because she came forward, herself.
I think she come out cause she wants her size of the cut…yeah she is a stalker
I've said it before, those 2 are as bad as each other
So when I found this programme it was listed under comedy/drama. Isn’t that an umbrella that Netflix can stand under? Also heard that Fargo used the same unequivocal language. All dramas that hit straight to the human truth are inspired in some part by real life surely..?
I’ve yet to ever see a Hollywood “based on a true story” movie that hasn’t embellished a bit. I’m sure it’s 50/50’ish true!
In her interview she said Richard ‘wanted this to come out’.
She's enjoying the attention
Richard Gadd has been exploiting this story for years, and Fiona knew it, because she is an unstable stalker and has been following Richard’s activities. What convinces me, is that she outs herself once Richard started raking in the serious cash. She wants a piece of that evidenced by her threats to sue and demands of Piers. Which means she’s exploiting the story, as well. There are consequences to all behaviors. I see no victims here.
Martha has been outed........what about the real life "Darrien?" he has a lot more to answer for......
Gadd has said she wasn't't convicted of stalking in his case. I think it's apparent that she did all of the stalking and sending messages. Whether or not she actually did every single thing, including being convicted, I doubt it. Gadd has said as much. Netflix's mistake was saying that it was a true story rather than based on a true story. However, I feel very uneasy about restricting a victim's ability to tell their story.
It’s not a documentary, so I never considered it would be 100% true.
Didn't matter who the victim is at this point. What does matter is that Fiona had plenty of opportunities to get her story out. She indured Richard doing 2 different plays over the years a did nothing until the Netflix money started to roll in.
Well at the very least he saw in her during their "brief" interactions a personality interesting enough to build a character around. Because after seeing her on Peirs, Im sorry but he NAILED her in creating "Martha"
Good point
No one picked up she was curious and mentioned how much money was made. She wants money. She also said she realised it was her when they mentioned stalking a ..politician rings bells as she said she did not stalk a politician?
People seemed to think that the 6 email addresses were to send TO different people, but wat if it was to send FROM different people. As in she pretends to be different people/ personalities.
Hi Steph, I've not tuned in to PCP since the Johnny Depp case and just wanted to say how much you've progressed as a presenter since then. The way you look and sound is spot on and really professional. Great to see you presenting the show x
Well everyone now pretends that some sentences can be sealed.
As someone who is dealing with a stalker, I feel they should be called out, NO OTHER PERSON should be subjected to the harm that a stalker causes and it will deter future stalking incidents because they can be exposed for their horrible and harmful choices. Healthy coping skills is a good thing and providing those is a good strategy. Stalking is a preventative problem I believe. Real consequences are effective. If you don’t want the results, then don’t make the choices that lead to them. Stalkers are also notorious for lying and denying the conscience choices they make. 😔😔😔
I could see the argument against Netflix, but also…Is there a presumption of privacy on the internet? People read public Twitter and Facebook posts, posted by her.
Plus, the things they DID change in the show, she’s railing them for.
Is it possible she’s actually not the Martha that the Netflix series was based on???
Who’s exploiting who? Really
It only states true life drama in episode 1 only .not in the rest of the episodes
She WAS done for stalking in the past - MPs wife, over 10 years ago. She has history. BUT Netflix states very clearly at the end of every episode that it's fictional, based on true events, but not entirely. It's in black and white titling, in writing, so why is everyone carrying on about this? Fiona has no legal leg to stand on!!! This is typical internet bullshit! There is no case legally! Piers took a big gulp when she said there was only a year difference between them in age ~ odd thing to say, shows she's looked him up. Hope he doesn't have a busstop out front of his house. She is quite OBVIOUSLY mentally unstable. "If I DID send emails...." = 112 per day over a year ~ sure, that's normal. 🙄 Richatd can say as much as he wants that he was really fucked up. So what? Fiona didn't come out for OVER A DECADE about all this till she was attacked online by people "identifying her" that she HAD to say something. Silly her to trust Piers for a fair go, but we all make nistakes. Richard's telling a version of his life story, NEVER claiming it was all 100% true. Yes, Fiona IS mentally unstable, quite obviously. And Piers does what he always does - exploits vulnerable people for his personal gain ("of course I want clicks"). He doesnt care about either of them. The Netflix publicity office must be laughing at how easy this SHOW was to promote. Get a grip people. 😳
I think if we want to find out the truth there would have to be proof shown and I don't think legally Richard can share that information unless Fiona goes ahead and sues.
Did you hear she's doing a nightclub appearance in Coventry signing autographs and taking photos... its in the papers here in UK..check The Sun newspaper. . how can she sue, if she's doing this ?! Basically she wants fame, wants to cash in
She sent the letter to the theatre he was performing at,not his home
She's exploiting him! She didn't make a fuss when she found out about the one man show that the show is based off, did she? She's also trying to get money off the Daily Mail & Piers Morgan. What more evidence does one need?
Omg… no one seems to OPEN THEIR EARS and focus anymore: she sent the letter to his theatre where his play took place.
She mentioned this later in the interview with Piers repeating after her…
On the Duty of Care, Agreed. I mean couldn’t they have made her a dentist, accountant or some other type of professional? Did she have to have a Scottish accent in the series? Did she have to be white? Fat? Did they have to use her tweets word for word? I think they’d have still had the same story had they at least tried to disguise her.
It just feels like an endless toxic cycle between Richard and Fiona since they’re continuing this battle and like he said in the show it might have to end with one of them dead 🤦🏽♀️
She also said that she was not the real Martha . She said is not me .
She said she sent the letter to the theatre company. So she may not have actually sent him letters to his house and may not have known where he lived.
I wouldn't be surprised if Richard Gadd made this in order to trigger her to stalk him again. Making it easy to find her, identical acter, matching the accent, her behaviors... He seemed to enjoy and hate it all at the same time.
I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this but in multiple comments on piers videos that at the end of every episode it said it could be dramatic and fictionalize for entertainment purposes. So there’s no way a lawsuit would go in Fiona’s favor .
The Behavioral Arts channel has done a post on this. It's worth a look. 😊
Spidey is the best “behaviour” analyst. His take is spot on.
If you listen to Peir’s interview again, she mentions that she sent the letter to the theater Gadz was working at, not his house. So, maybe she didn’t know where he lived. But, I do think she wasn’t completely honest in the interview.
She said she sent the letter recorded delivery to the theatre his show was playing at
Can’t the issue of Martha being a convicted stalker or not be easily determined by checking to see if she has a criminal record? I thought journalists are supposed to investigate this before reporting on it or is this just a gossip channel?
honestly they both enabled each other. they really should be kept as far away from each other as possible. they are both extremely toxic people
Does anyone know why the last few lives still haven't been uploaded in full for members?
I was wondering the same about a criminal record and i seen youtuber "Simply said"..explains how difficult it is in England to obtain that information..
Maybe she sent the letter to the pub, lol 😆
But she literally said this person is me then said this isn't me. So which is it?
I agree it should have said, based on a true story, not, this is a true story, as it was his version of events and his memory
The stuff we CAN find out easily, proves she is guilty of so much. I’m happy to assume she’s guilty of the rest. 😂
If the arrest that occurred in the series was an attempt to protect her (showing that she did not go unpunished for what she did), and it comes to light that this did not happen in real life, and the other accusations are proven, regarding persecution, harassment and threats... all this exposure she sought now may have been the biggest mistake she could make.
It would be less harmful for her to prove that she has already paid for her mistakes. The people's court will not forgive her.