Can you imagine having to figure this all out, investigate, find witnesses, put it all together, figure out your order, figure out your questions, all while considering not just the law but the perception of the jury all that comes with that? I cannot imagine
@@user-bx8ol3yv3dDid they say why their cameras are so bad? It is frustrating not being able to see facial expressions. In contrast the Karen Read trial, also in progress, has very good cameras on the witnesses, but not good audio for the lawyers and the prosecutors and judge are imo completely unprofessional and incompetent.
I have been following this case from day one and this is the first time I broke down crying as I realize now they torture these children before their death💔 it is too bad that Lori could not be sentenced to death for allowing this to happen to her children😡 my heart goes out to Kay and Larry♥️
I can't imagine him not getting found guilty. There is way too much evidence against him. No matter what, he should have pled guilty for a deal. He's not only a murderer. He is a dumb ass.
Does anyone have theories about where Alex and/or Chad murdered Tylee? Dismemberment could leave so much trace evidence behind, I would think. Chad's garage? The barn? Outside by the fire pit?? Somewhere not on Chad's property? There's been no mention of evidence that they bought a tarp or something else to use for their awful purposes, but maybe they did one thing smart and used cash. It just sounds so horrible, did they really think they would get away with something so savage as what they did to Tylee? It's insanity. They're all f***ing crazy. RIP sweet Tylee. She deserved to live. Bless her spirit.
I do!! ✋. Alex’s phone pinged in a remote wooded area ( Lauren took us on a tour of the area, on HTC❤👍) His phone was there for about 30-45 min (?) I think that she was driven out there, where she was assaulted and killed by Alex and Chad. 😢 ……that’s as much as I can speculate on, or I’ll start crying again. 😢
I agree on the wooded area down the dirt road. Creek nearby to clean up blood. Remote. And where did the carnivore damage come from? Was she left outside in bags overnight?
@@bballard57 Yes, very good question about the carnivore damage! I thought maybe an animal dug up Tylee's grave, perhaps not long after she was first buried, and Chad had to rebury what was left after that :/
I found out a few years ago that a good portion of states and counties do not require a licensed doctor to run for coroner. Due to lack of city funding and shortage of ME's anyone can run and win with no medical experience at all which is absolutely shocking to anyone that hears this. It was painful to hear the coroner and the asst coroner testify in this trial. The clear lack of overall knowledge and then the speculation of the pink foam coming from Tammy's mouth and what could have caused this was unbelievably ridiculous. We can only imagine how many people have been buried, cremated that met their end at the hands of another and it will never be known. Just chilling.
Hi lauren & John I am such a fan. First saw you on the nextfilix documentary sins of the mother. I have been following you both ever since. Just wanted to give you a shout out today. You give such great insight. So informative. One more thing i have noticed is your passion for justice. Anyway, i so enjoy you both. Thank Janet Steiner Hanna From California god bless always ♥️ 🙏
43:05 I have never seen Chad look directly at the Jury as long as he did when it was testified that “Storm” was the name of Chad’s… member. With what looked like a smirk and an eyebrow raised. Prior looks like he did the same. Anyone else see this??
@@BecBec295yes. And given the reason he is in court, I would have hoped for no response. In my opinion his response just speaks more to who he is, despicable.
I was thinking about the carnivore post mortem evidence, I'm thinking that the boards & rocks, placed over JJ's burial site was probably as a result of animals activity digging up remains hence, my guess is Chad may have "FREAKed OUT", maybe Alex was involved too, I don't know the circumstances, or when this happened, it could've been after Alex died, it was 9 months between the deaths of the kids after all & before LE unearthed them, in June or July of the next year, consider also the season's in-between? There would be Autumn, or fall, Winter, Spring then Summer when they were found by LE. There could have been a number of situations that arose during that time period e.g. I had some pets I buried in my garden, a cat or 2 & a some puppies, I used to breed Labradors & some died or were stillborn, a couple were unearthed, by cats, because I didn't bury them deep enough. I also live in metropolitan area not out in the country or dare I say it, a FARM, pastureland!!!. I had another look at the pictures of Chad digging graves & noticed that he wore, thick gloves, to protect his hands from blistering, I'm betting that when they buried Tylee & JJ perhaps he/they re-buried their "unearthed" remains, they/he wore gloves. It's a shame LE didn't think of this when they took the tools etc., or maybe they did but they burned afterwards. I'm willing to bet that those 3 rocks & board, placed so purposefully, on top of JJ's remains, were placed there to help prevent animals from digging them up again, no doubts about now. His body wasn't burned, it was wrapped in plastic etc, the animals would have smelled the decomposing remains. I'm guessing that, at some point, Chad found animals were digging up the area, to get to the remains, so he needed to find a solution which, imo was the rocks n board, then dirt over the top of that.😱😢😥😭
Where are video/audio, or transcripts of Daybell being interviewed by police and jail house calls? We have had access to this info for Murdaugh, Adelson, Franke, Hildebrandt. Why is this different?
Lauren, can you comment on why prior keeps trying to make a point that Tylee was JJ‘s primary caregiver? I don’t see what the point is and it’s very confusing to me.
I'm speculating here: but maybe to show Lori wasn't close to JJ and that JJ became too much for her after Tylee was murdered, so she and Alex decided to get rid of JJ. Prior is trying to show the murders were all planned and done by Lori/Alex and Chad didn't know about any if it
Re: Audio-I noticed the regular super tall bailiff is out on this date. Maybe the sub Marshall forgot to turn the audio back on after the sidebar? I don’t know whose job that is, just wondering. I called for speculation, your honor.
To keep him quiet. They knew he was a loose cannon who often messed up. They knew he might eventually have remorse, and tell the truth. He was unreliable
In Chad's "patriarchal blessing" he said that Alex would know when it's time to move on (or something like that). He went to Mexico and was "sick" after he got back. Many of us wondered if he go drugs and took them. If I remember correctly, he was texting (I think) Chad and making comments about how he felt while being sick (I could be wrong). And like others said, and from what Zulema said about him saying either he was of God or he wasn't, and telling Lori (no more zombies), he was probably having doubts.
Did i misunderstand what the detective was saying?? It was on facebook that he found the map of chads property? So that’s how he got the notion to check satellite images? A (most likely) FB sleuth posted that and he followed on the idea… I’m i wrong?
I heard him say social media rather than Facebook but yes. I thought Prior would interrogate him about that but he seems very flat and low energy today.
@@janashellbugl was very pleased to read your original comment. Please, no need to apologise, I was walking around my loungeroom while watching so l may have heard incorrectly.
I really cannot with this judge!! Starting late, finishing early, break after break after break .... What a waste of the jurors time and public money. Surely a little more dynamic approach would have nailed this psycho weeks ago.
Have to say Prosecuting team has been meticulous in laying out it's case. Attention to every littlr detail id extraordinary. Impressive.
Prior looks like he wishes he was somewhere else.. big separation in Prior and Chad today?
Can you imagine having to figure this all out, investigate, find witnesses, put it all together, figure out your order, figure out your questions, all while considering not just the law but the perception of the jury all that comes with that? I cannot imagine
I agree but wish they allowed regular cameras so we can actually see faces and expressions.
@@user-bx8ol3yv3dDid they say why their cameras are so bad? It is frustrating not being able to see facial expressions. In contrast the Karen Read trial, also in progress, has very good cameras on the witnesses, but not good audio for the lawyers and the prosecutors and judge are imo completely unprofessional and incompetent.
I have been following this case from day one and this is the first time I broke down crying as I realize now they torture these children before their death💔 it is too bad that Lori could not be sentenced to death for allowing this to happen to her children😡 my heart goes out to Kay and Larry♥️
The reality of the torture endured by these dear children while they took their last breaths is beyond hideous 💔🤯😤😭😭😭
Man. Tylee's best friend is going to make me lose it. This crime is just so brutal.
I wish they had asked her more questions and had her on the stand longer. It was lovely to hear about Tyler being a regular teenager.
I can't imagine him not getting found guilty. There is way too much evidence against him. No matter what, he should have pled guilty for a deal. He's not only a murderer. He is a dumb ass.
I agree with you, but I think the prosecution wasn’t going to give him a deal.
Does anyone have theories about where Alex and/or Chad murdered Tylee? Dismemberment could leave so much trace evidence behind, I would think. Chad's garage? The barn? Outside by the fire pit?? Somewhere not on Chad's property? There's been no mention of evidence that they bought a tarp or something else to use for their awful purposes, but maybe they did one thing smart and used cash.
It just sounds so horrible, did they really think they would get away with something so savage as what they did to Tylee? It's insanity. They're all f***ing crazy.
RIP sweet Tylee. She deserved to live. Bless her spirit.
I do!! ✋. Alex’s phone pinged in a remote wooded area ( Lauren took us on a tour of the area, on HTC❤👍) His phone was there for about 30-45 min (?) I think that she was driven out there, where she was assaulted and killed by Alex and Chad. 😢 ……that’s as much as I can speculate on, or I’ll start crying again. 😢
@@Twinkle_Toes88 ohhh thanks! I didn't remember about the wooded area ping! That's very enlightening. I'm gonna go watch HTC's tour vid.
I agree on the wooded area down the dirt road. Creek nearby to clean up blood. Remote. And where did the carnivore damage come from? Was she left outside in bags overnight?
@@bballard57 Yes, very good question about the carnivore damage! I thought maybe an animal dug up Tylee's grave, perhaps not long after she was first buried, and Chad had to rebury what was left after that :/
So many unanswered questions and the creep sitting there knows all the answers.
Wonder who Chad’s goddess will be in prison? or he will be someone’s goddess
Yes, lots of willing storms in prison I imagine.
I found out a few years ago that a good portion of states and counties do not require a licensed doctor to run for coroner. Due to lack of city funding and shortage of ME's anyone can run and win with no medical experience at all which is absolutely shocking to anyone that hears this. It was painful to hear the coroner and the asst coroner testify in this trial. The clear lack of overall knowledge and then the speculation of the pink foam coming from Tammy's mouth and what could have caused this was unbelievably ridiculous. We can only imagine how many people have been buried, cremated that met their end at the hands of another and it will never be known. Just chilling.
Yes commonly understood
Hi lauren & John
I am such a fan. First saw you on the nextfilix documentary sins of the mother. I have been following you both ever since. Just wanted to give you a shout out today. You give such great insight. So informative. One more thing i have noticed is your passion for justice. Anyway, i so enjoy you both. Thank Janet Steiner Hanna
From California god bless always ♥️ 🙏
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 thumbs up let’s show Lauren & Dr John our appreciation 🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵
I would love to see the locations of the cell phones of Chad's kids
Yes!! Me too!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡👍
Thanks Hidden True Crime for everything you do.
43:05 I have never seen Chad look directly at the Jury as long as he did when it was testified that “Storm” was the name of Chad’s… member. With what looked like a smirk and an eyebrow raised. Prior looks like he did the same. Anyone else see this??
I don’t know how you can see any detail given the poor visual quality.
I noticed it as well. It looked to me like he was smiling and raised an eyebrow
I thought I saw a smirk a well. Thought it was weird. Was expecting shame.
Same! He looked proud
@@BecBec295yes. And given the reason he is in court, I would have hoped for no response. In my opinion his response just speaks more to who he is, despicable.
Terrible what they did to poor Tylee.
Yes, it is incomprehensible
Lauren, can you revisit the video you did on the field where you think Alex was? You walked down a road to it.
Yes, please 🙏 I really think that it’s important 🙏👍
I was thinking about the carnivore post mortem evidence, I'm thinking that the boards & rocks, placed over JJ's burial site was probably as a result of animals activity digging up remains hence, my guess is Chad may have "FREAKed OUT", maybe Alex was involved too, I don't know the circumstances, or when this happened, it could've been after Alex died, it was 9 months between the deaths of the kids after all & before LE unearthed them, in June or July of the next year, consider also the season's in-between? There would be Autumn, or fall, Winter, Spring then Summer when they were found by LE. There could have been a number of situations that arose during that time period e.g. I had some pets I buried in my garden, a cat or 2 & a some puppies, I used to breed Labradors & some died or were stillborn, a couple were unearthed, by cats, because I didn't bury them deep enough. I also live in metropolitan area not out in the country or dare I say it, a FARM, pastureland!!!.
I had another look at the pictures of Chad digging graves & noticed that he wore, thick gloves, to protect his hands from blistering, I'm betting that when they buried Tylee & JJ perhaps he/they re-buried their "unearthed" remains, they/he wore gloves. It's a shame LE didn't think of this when they took the tools etc., or maybe they did but they burned afterwards.
I'm willing to bet that those 3 rocks & board, placed so purposefully, on top of JJ's remains, were placed there to help prevent animals from digging them up again, no doubts about now. His body wasn't burned, it was wrapped in plastic etc, the animals would have smelled the decomposing remains. I'm guessing that, at some point, Chad found animals were digging up the area, to get to the remains, so he needed to find a solution which, imo was the rocks n board, then dirt over the top of that.😱😢😥😭
1. On the way to a sidebar, why does Prior wait for the Prosecutors to walk by?
2. Is dumbbell, errr I mean Daybell shackled to the table?
Where are video/audio, or transcripts of Daybell being interviewed by police and jail house calls? We have had access to this info for Murdaugh, Adelson, Franke, Hildebrandt. Why is this different?
Chad refused an interview, he asked for lawyers right away
Was Alex’s vehicle ever searched/tested?
I think they should look back at Chad's past I bet he's bin killing for years he's defo got a screw loose
Prior sounds under the weather. He must see his defense circling the drain😂
Wow another insight and great interview
Lost audio for a lot of the anthropologists testimony.
This was a day for the state. Prior looked unwell.
Thank you
Lauren, can you comment on why prior keeps trying to make a point that Tylee was JJ‘s primary caregiver? I don’t see what the point is and it’s very confusing to me.
I'm speculating here: but maybe to show Lori wasn't close to JJ and that JJ became too much for her after Tylee was murdered, so she and Alex decided to get rid of JJ. Prior is trying to show the murders were all planned and done by Lori/Alex and Chad didn't know about any if it
I agree, I think he's trying to show she was always a terrible mother to JJ.
He wants to blame everything on Lori, so making her see as a bad mother or absent mother is helpful for his case
Yes, trying to show how Lori was always a bad mother.
So weird that Prior didn't cross examine the last witness. Any ideas why?
Gratitude ✌️
It’s over for today! Wow!
The Live feed is over as court ended, going through witnesses more quickly than expected. Now its back to regular comments mode.
They have been on lunch for 1 hr and 20 mins!!
Re: Audio-I noticed the regular super tall bailiff is out on this date. Maybe the sub Marshall forgot to turn the audio back on after the sidebar? I don’t know whose job that is, just wondering. I called for speculation, your honor.
Are either Alex or Chad left handed? The blows were from left to right.
Good Question 😎👍
🌼🌼🌼
I’m on replay crew.. is the forensic anthropologist testimony muted purposely?
No they had a glitch with the livestream.
I know they were running late going into lunch….but usually there are a lot more people chatting
Are we actually going to be able to hear the testimony from the anthropologist?
This has probably been discussed but why do you think they killed Alex? It seems he was a major player. Was he going to turn them in? Just wondering.
To keep him quiet. They knew he was a loose cannon who often messed up. They knew he might eventually have remorse, and tell the truth. He was unreliable
Ditto Carmela, and Alex was getting suspicious that they were using him.
In Chad's "patriarchal blessing" he said that Alex would know when it's time to move on (or something like that). He went to Mexico and was "sick" after he got back. Many of us wondered if he go drugs and took them. If I remember correctly, he was texting (I think) Chad and making comments about how he felt while being sick (I could be wrong). And like others said, and from what Zulema said about him saying either he was of God or he wasn't, and telling Lori (no more zombies), he was probably having doubts.
Because Alex knew that he would be the fall guy
Maybe he was the only one who died from "casting." Lol
Is it over for today?
Where are they??
Why is there no audio?
Is Court over for the day?
I’m wondering the same
It’s over for today folks.
I think it ended early. Witnesses were quicker than expected??
Did i misunderstand what the detective was saying??
It was on facebook that he found the map of chads property? So that’s how he got the notion to check satellite images? A (most likely) FB sleuth posted that and he followed on the idea…
I’m i wrong?
I heard him say social media rather than Facebook but yes.
I thought Prior would interrogate him about that but he seems very flat and low energy today.
@@charliespencer yes… sorry either one. For some reason i either inferred fb or heard it.
@@janashellbugl was very pleased to read your original comment. Please, no need to apologise, I was walking around my loungeroom while watching so l may have heard incorrectly.
That is one creepy thumbnail of old Chadmeister
It's really sad how many exhibits are deemed too graphic or sensitive for the public in this case 😢
They ended early today.
What is happening? Lunch break?
Why can’t we hear about Tylee’s remains?
Never mind I was just being inpatient
Not to make light, but I would appreciate Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen reading this monumental literature.
* aloud, in a radio play or podcast
Is court over??
Court ended early about a half hour ago
Where is everyone
And... If they were Amish would this have gone by mail or courier pigeon? So.Many.Questions...
IF HE IS RELEASED HE WILL DO IT AGAIN.
He won’t be released. Maximum is death penalty, but failing that , he will definitely go down for conspiracy to murder…same as his second wife.
33:10 Court begins
Lunch?
Is it over? Lol
Hello?
Say what?
Ok .. bye for now
I really cannot with this judge!! Starting late, finishing early, break after break after break .... What a waste of the jurors time and public money. Surely a little more dynamic approach would have nailed this psycho weeks ago.
It’s a lot of information to take in, and a lot of traumatic images to endure. I’m sure everyone involved is grateful for the breaks.