Update: At 7:24, I forgot to re-type all of Sunday's build. The images are all correct but the words are all wrong. It's Bronya LC, Sacerdos and Lushaka. Obviously, this is the result of a couple of day testing but I still wouldn't say this is the be all end all comparison for the builds. I'm already expecting a comment that will reference a "PRIVATE" server clear where a slow Aglaea can "2 cost" with double Dance3x, 180 speed supports and E2 Bronya. I mean, sure, go try replicating that and good luck. For those who can't wait for my Aglaea guide and want my preliminary opinion on her, Aglaea is a skip. She's okay if you have Sunday or Huohuo but even then, she has so much restrictions. Not to mention, she isn't friendly with casual players unless you go for the fast Aglaea build used in this showcase. While I haven't done testing her in AS and PF, I get the feeling that her slow ULT gain and ramp up will cause issues. However, if you are simply trying to clear content, go ahead and pull for her, she will do the work.
When I was checking her kit, how she felt in the story and during the trial in the event I was already feeling underwhelmed (and I have Sunday and huohuo built, too) While playing her, I had a really strong feeling she was restrictive and a very "build around me" character where you need to tailor supports and their builds to how she plays. It's nice to see I wasn't alone thinking of that restrictive playstyle. 🥺
Ok but playing her in the event felt awful😭 I feel like u actually NEED Sunday I have huohuo but the way her dmg,speed and garmentmaker disappear after ult ends feels so bad
The event is actually the worst place possible to maintain ult uptime: in MoC you can extend ult with wave reset, in pf you have lots of kill energy, in AS you have energy on boss break, in SU you have energy from blessings. In the event you don’t even get kill energy since the enemies die from the mechanic instead.
Yeah i wouldnt go for her without sunday, but really enjoyed the character with him. Shes such fun and have a lot of room to experiment with speed tuning, but is really expensive
the way you are meant to play aglaea: just try getting more spd and let Sunday make up for cr/cd. It is not a rocket science. As for the event: It is not a 150av cycle and the action bar doesn't reset between waves. You can 0 cycle the final challenge with The Herta, Herta, RMC and Pela just because of permaults and constant 5 enemy on field
I think for rotations that want to maximize number of turns, it's probably more optimal to use a Robin in such a team since she rewards additional actions a fair amount. I think it's easy to take for granted how much of a boost Robin is for strats like that, that if you don't use her, that the fall off between turns vs. buffs becomes more quickly felt. It's good that you showcase that there is always nuance to what might be optimal depending on the team and the fight. Good showcase. ♥
Ive been running RMC Sunday huohuo and still lose ult state buffs sometimes even with er rope on aglaea but no sig LC. Been wondering if E1 robin is better option or not but haven't tried it yet.
Yeah but in order to get 161 speeed on Aglaea you would need the signature LC (or sacrifice a bunch of substats) which I can't afford Imma just stick to the fast Support set up for now and wait for a different Remembrance LC with speed passive (copium)
I mean that 161 speed requirement is already considering that her LC increases base speed by 12, so her 96% speed buff from stacks + set affect it as well Without her sig you would need like 172. I dont think thats reasanoble at all for f2p, this setup is kinda soft locked by sig Shes a really expensive unit I guess
@joaotrovaofilho If the 161 speed requirement already factors the 12 speed from the lc then why even say 161 speed? The lc speed literally shows up on the stat screen, doesn't it just make more sense to say 172 speed
@@Jenjenson0 Because her LC increases base speed, it isnt a normal speed bonus. That way, it gives you 12 speed pre-combat, and after you"re fully stacked you gain another ~12 from the 96% buff effect on that 12 base speed. After all things considered her LC gives ~24 speed, but half of it only shows when you're fully buffed, so we cant speed tune pre combat based upon this
God Aglaea's release has cemented the brain death of the HSR community. Like, beacuse character has premium supports she is suddently "so restrictive", but EVERY character has premium supports. Ok, you cant 0-cycle with Aglaea and RMC/Bronya/Gallagher/whatever homeless supports you have. So what? Its not like ur gonna 0 cycle with Feixiao or Acheron or whoever with homeless supports either. Theres plenty of people who are already learning to navigate her kit with sub-optimal units. They will never release another character that takes actual brain cells to execute bc if the team doesnt build itself and autobattle for you, everyone just complains about how bad they are.
She is the single character most reliant on a premium team, its not like like everyone else Besides, she still struggles for energy even on premium team, soft locks her fast playstyle behind sig (even then has rough-ish speed requirements), and isnt good on aoe She has a lot of caveats to work well and is really f2p unfriendly, without being much better than current roster She is for sure restrictive
@@joaotrovaofilho She's restrictive for sure. She is, however, undoubtedly one of the best DPS, if not the best DPS at the moment with the right team set up. That will change however, when The Herta gets her premium support.
At large there's no learning in the community, only regurgitation of someone else's take (since the game released btw). Like Lisara said in the pinned comment if it's just for clearing the content she will do it, only an incredibly small portion of the community going for the fastest clears have any room to complain about the premium requirements, but people lose sight of it parroting what creators have to say, especially when some of those treat the f2p experience like something miserable without even knowing the state of the game for those accounts.
The fun thing is how people changed the past and tells you how FF and Acheron arent that restrictive during their release 😂 But Aglaea its cursed because she needs 1 character to be t0 and some brain Power to be the "strongest DPS"
There was a post on Reddit some days ago stating the Fast Aglaea slow Sunday set up was “huge misinformation”. Wonder what caused such differing opinions.
Since I am missing quite a few of the good light cones but have pretty decent relics, I chose to opt for a fast aglaea + fast sunday comp instead, with Aglaea at 251 spd in battle and Sunday at 160. Assuming Aglaea ults on Sunday's turn (or right before/after), he is able to advance her forward and still allow Aglaea to act one last time before her ult state ends. So what I ended up having was essentially the same action count as Aglaea 2x + 1 spd comp, but with one of her attacks buffed instead of unbuffed by Sunday. So far it has worked pretty decently for me in second wave (you can't get the last Aglaea action within 0 cycle at wave 1, unless you DDD or ult at 50 av which you can't lol), although I end up getting the unbuffed attack at the end of Aglaea's ult state instead lol
Fast Aglaea into 1 single result w/ Sunday: you wanna lap 2 turns before Sunday, that's all because if not having enough spd, only one scenario exists until you reach the spd checkpoint: Aglaea moves before Sunday only 1 turn and that will remain true until you achieve the spd checkpoint for Aglaea Sunday spd ratio into 2 : 1 or the whole spd you get from relics are just meaningless. Or you don't play w/ Sunday, at all, because you have to build up spd to make up for lack of Sunday. Its strength lies within the ease of build on Aglaea E0S1 (If without Sig, not recommending this setup because the spd threshold on E0S0 is unrealistic) though it can be statchecking like crazy since it's also balancing between spd and atk, crit stats, etc..., a less complicated non-eagle setup, and may result in more value as the fight goes on. Weakness is you lose buffs very quickly, even Sacerdos' buffs and Sunday's sig. buff is spent right after one rotation. Sure you can sneak in a Sunday's ult to keep it in check, but other than that, you're achieving higher act counts but buffs drop off like it's nothing. The same sh*t happened with Sunday spd tune setup + RMC on like any DPS that can go spd tune. And the problem is you're not even sure if the number of acts are worth for losing buffs. Even if it's for Sunday on like 134 spd, buffs just disappear anyways. This strategy exists since it's an angle that's achievable, but honestly it lies in the middle: It's good because it's easier to build, but it's also not the one with highest potential dmg, plus it also requires you to constantly check on buffs because, it's a 3-turn Aglaea before Sunday, so on a sustain team, this strat is not effective because you don't have like Bronya to double Sunday's charging spd, into constant dmg loss because you can't have ult constantly every rotation to keep the buffs on, and on a sustainless team (Agl + Sunday + Bronya + Robin) you may be able to clutch but there will be a rotation you can't and still dmg loss. The point is this is the scenario where fast aglaea into constant dmg loss in exchange for higher act counts, opposite to the playstyle where supports on high spd and Agl slow so you can setup like before. And you don't need to have 180 spd supports sh*t to say like I don't need spd boots, you literally can play around Robin's ult, tune Sunday and Bronya around that, going into a 3 Robin ults setup that honestly it's achievable, not statchecked like crazy, and it's a setup that proves that slow builds can stand toe-to-toe w/ fast builds. Personally, this is a meaningless vid. Not the run, but the arguments you want to make out of the vid, and the ppl wasting time arguing over this. You get offended by this but this is the reality: you don't debunk any because it's just between the setup that's easier to build but less buff duration, and the setup where you invest a bit more (still practical and not like unrealistic), higher buff duration, and the act counts can be comparable. Not to mention, this high spd setup is only recommended for sb having E0S1. If any only has E0S0, I recommend, don't even go for this, because it's not worth at any point to go high spd builds because, her sig. gives base spd, you're gonna have to compensate a lot more spd to be comparable to a minimum 159 spd E0S1 for the 268 / 134 spd, to the point it's unrealistic and it's never worth going for that.
@@kiniro8553 I mean it's practically obvious: with similar act counts, but each act on slow build gets way more, ofc the slow build should be more efficient, I thought my words indicate that.
Sorry can you explain it to me like I'm 5... I have e0s0 Aglaea ( s1 Battle pass LC) e0s1 Sunday e0s0 Robin and I do have E2s0 bronya and e6s5 RMC but I'd rather use a sustain be it gallagher with qpq, fine fruit or shared feeling or fu xuan because if I can't 0 cycle sustainless is always useless because you literally die right? What speeds should I use? Currently it's 135 Aglaea (out of combat 142 in combat because 4pc) and 134 Sunday+Keel/Lushanka/voncrack? , 122 Robin +voncrack and 160 gallagher e6s5 qpq. And no I'm not getting her sig I tried and lost 75/25 (and 0 DDD's btw...) and I am saving for Mydei and a huohuo in future.
@@Splinnee E0S0 then never build fast Aglaea because again, it's unrealistic to reach that spd checkpoint w/o Sig, it's like from 159-162 to about 17x, which is honestly not worth. So yeah slow Aglaea, fast Sunday, should be the ideal setup. You can find HoS's speed tuning guide for Aglaea, should be there and have particular cases that you might want to check. Also, Gallagher for sustain.
Do you use any tools or techs to calculate stat breakpoints for a character to have enough impact? Your battle planner is really useful for me to figure out speed breakpoints, but i struggle to know how many actions i need to 0-cycle
No. Typically, I just try different kind of strats w/o knowing if it will have enough damage or not. However, checking damage breakpoints is important. For example, switching ATK rope to ER rope can be the difference maker since sometimes, you already have more than enough damage and spamming ULTs actually gets the clear.
The fast agalea build is hard to do w/o base spd increase from sig... Is it possible to run 117.4 spd Sunday bronya and have S5 DDD push them back to 0 cycle, so that agalea can run with lower spd w/o sig? Not sure since DDD could complicate Agalea's action order relative to them as well.
I already thought about this before, the issue is how advance forward is heavily diminished at super high speed. The only thing it does is to increase the speed requirements for Aglaea even further. It is a very interesting interaction due to how advance forward works.
Amazing video. Love the speedtuning possibilities agalea brings especially since i lucked into an E6 bronya, but the energy restrictions without her e1 make her a skip for me. Hoping another SP neutral carry comes out soon
i have been waiting for a unit that acts a bunch of times like follow ups and dot with multiple instance of dmg and they made aglaea and she seems very fun, but if they reduce her max energy cost, or make it so when she exits supreme stance, she retains like 3 stacks so she can reenter supreme stance with like 5 to 6 stacks. still pulled her since she looks fun. im not mad the fact at f2p, she will likely exit supreme stance which is not like a bad thing since some part of her kit is meant for that like the insta action advance when skill and stuff and can be her weakness but they made her energy cost so high it is almost crazy. question cause i saw guoba certified aglaea guide and he said for the fast aglaea and slow supports set up, u need her sig lc or else it wont work, is it true?
Any difference if using Robin instead of RMC? I have 133.6 Sunday and 160 Aglaea, so she hits double speed, but sometimes I still find myself falling out of ult even with ERR rope and HuoHuo. I tried 161 Sunday with 159 Aglaea (166 in combat start), and the downtime seemed not as bad since Sunday’s last push lets Aglaea get one more turn (like 1AV) before the end of her supreme state.
The problem with fast Aglaea is that if you have 160 speed Sunday, then your final Aglaea speed should reach 320 so she can get 2 turns before Sunday acts. Else, if you can't do that, then just sacrifice all speed to boost her damage more. She would still reach higher speed than a fast Sunday once she reaches max stacks.
You once told me that "Spending extra jades to refill for stamina and farm relics isn't as expensive as you think because I never max refill in the first place." I want to know Does this mean that in patch 3.0 and above, Will you spend money buy self modeling resin and wishful resin ? Then how much will you buy self modeling resin and wishful resin? Or do you not think of buying at all ? I saw that it can be bought in the shop Have 2 set herta contract : startegic Cooperation and startegic support in set startegic Cooperation you can choose 6 self modeling resin or 6 wishful resin 1 set can buy 2 time = you can buy to choose 12 self modeling resin or 12 wishful resin or 6 self modeling resin and 6 wishful resin and in set startegic support you can buy 5 time and and choose 10 self modeling resin or 10 wishful resin or choose 5 self modeling resin and 5 wishful resin I think if you buy all you might have as 1. 22 self modeling resin 2. 22 wishful resin 3.11 self modeling resin and 11 wishful resin you can take 3 self modeling resin for exchange 1 variable dice and you can bay 2 variable dice from nameless glory and medel and + 2 self modeling resin and 2 wishful resin Do you think to buy all set at i say for to do 0 cycle ? or you don't care to buy for 0 cycle ?
I did buy all wishful resins since I personally think that with my luck, I technically spend less by getting the relic I want with wishful resins than farming them using TB power. I do still refill 3-5 times a day. 5 times when I badly need something. 3 times when I'm just casually playing.
Does the fast aglaea build still work with E2 bronya, since it break's Sunday's speed tuning? Does that just raise Aglaea's required speed in order to not be cut by sunday?
What are your thoughts on e1s1 aglaea and using the ult's early for extra action advance and maintaining the stacks even with att rope, is it always better to bring up sunday over aglaea with mem as you lose the sup buffs not going to aglaea in exchange for 1 hit of garm, its so fast paced its hard to see who is doing the damage out of the two without a record feature. I also had the thought of no sustain and using bronya, is it worth me using my 2 free standard pulls to get her e1? Ive been holding them just in case, the alternative is more himeko to get closer to e6. How viable is a s3 DDD on bronya as i dont have her sig. (sunday is e1s1 too)
Better use Mem support on Aglaea. If you really like Aglaea, her E1 is very good for her. S3 DDD on Bronya is still okay but if you're trying to get a 3rd action within the 0-cycle, then you'll need to increase her speed a lot. If you're just casually playing, just leave your supports at 160 and there's no need to use DDD.
If for whatever reason Aglaea can't reach 160+ speed (no sig/bad relics) is there a particular sweet spot where slow Aglaea is better to use over any speed threshold? (115/135/155 SPD)
Slow Aglaea build doesn't need any speed at all. The issue is the fact that Sunday is too fast that she can't get double his speed. Thus, you give up on all speed.
Would you still say this is the case when running Aglaea outside of 0 cycles with sustains? If it is better, then I’ll swap my builds, but I just want to make sure as it does feel like all the AA and extra stat buffs are helping to maintain Aglaea’s DPS output with her faster build.
If you use a sustain, the only difference maker is if you can reach max stacks on Aglaea before 2nd wave starts. Slow Aglaea doesn't really mind a bit lower stacks since it reaches higher speed than a fast Sunday. For the fast Aglaea, the logic behind it is to reach 2x the speed of slow Sunday which is not possible with less than max stacks.
I think you can just use whatever for E1S1 Aglaea lol. But hmmm, I really don't use eidolons so I can't say much. I'm just gonna assume that since the slow build won't require an energy rope anymore, the slow build might be better.
If fast aglaea is stronger does that make her light cone better than E1? Or does E1 change the rotation making it stronger than lc ? You're not even using er rope making the E1 look useless
I have her premium team with E0S1 Sunday and E0s0 houhou along with E0S1 Aglaea. My Aglaea has 162 SPD, do I build atk% or err rope and for orb do I go lighting dmg boost or atk%? Thanks in advance
I never really found a need to use an ER rope on fast Aglaea with slow supports. However, I always found myself needing an ER rope for slow Aglaea + fast supports.
@@LisaraScarlet What speed should I push for on Aglaea then? Bronya e2 is only 1 turn so I doubt it would be possible to get 2 turns before sunday's next turn, or does that not matter?
@ It is actually possible but damn, welcome to speed tuning hell. I haven't done the calcs, you should try to learn how to use my battle planner. Link is in the description.
The reason why fast Aglaea + fast supports is pointless is because you can't get Aglaea to be 2x faster than the fast supports, the speed requirements would be ridiculous. Meanwhile, slow Aglaea still reaches 200+ speed even if she doesn't try to get any speed which will meet the requirements for the +1 speed setup.
@@LisaraScarlet You dont have to get her 2x faster. Faster support means more turns for these means permanent buff uptime. Fast aglaea + fast support is better than fast aglaea + 134 sunday. Not by huge margins, but it does deal more damage over the same amount of time. So its not pointless. If you have the items lying around to get your sunday to 160 its just better.
I'd be curious to see this same comparison but for other teams, namely with huohuo; robin; sunday bc from my experience the 2x setup was worse than slow aglaea and fast support but maybe its just me idk.
I have a Spd boot that’s pretty cracked but kept seeing Atk boot recommended if she’s not at like 174 Spd l, so I tried Atk > Spd and what I consistently found was the first cycle was significantly more difficult to clear without going into the next one than running the Spd boots. This is with my Aglaea only having 127 Spd pre combat and with s1 BP LC, she easily gets enough Spd to overtake fast Sunday and nearly always is in ult state. Meanwhile with Atk boots I was constantly falling out of ult state and had to build up stacks all over again. Not to mention I did the same if not more damage with those Spd boots. Yeah idc Spd always feels better lol
If the buff activate in the start of the battle (like Ruan Mei's spd buff) or off battle. For Aglaea you need the 160 SPD off battle. Because these breakpoints can change the results if you get then in the mid of the battle.
It just doesn't work because the concept of fast Aglaea is to outspeed Sunday by having twice his speed. If you have a 160 speed Sunday, that means you need Aglaea's final speed to hit 320. That ain't gonna happen unless you do some shenanigans.
the discourse around aglaea is really funny if youve actually listened to how people talk about every other dps because its the exact same conversation everybody has about every dps unit: firefly releases: "Youre locked into using ruan mei + hmc!!! MID!!!!" acheron releases: "Youre locked into two nihility. Youre locked into Jiaoqiu!!! FELL OFF" Feixiao releases: "Youre locked into Robin fua units!!! RESTRICTIVE BAAAAAAHH" Herta releases: "She needs so much energy waaaaaaaaa" and then like 2 versions later everybody loves them and glazes them up and down like no tomorrow. And its not just with T0 units, its with other units too. Its not that serious, just wait like 2 versions and trust everybody will be singing Aglaea's praises. Either that or itll be another Jing Yuan situation. And Jing Yuan isnt even bad.
I agree that some vocal minority can be quite noisy, I think Aglaea will be more like Boothill. People would sing him praises whenever he does his thing ... which doesn't really happen often. I would put Aglaea in the same boat since I don't think she excels at PF and AS.
@LisaraScarlet I have aglaea e0s0. I think she's a comfy A tier with her signature robin/sunday duo team which I run (have no huohuo). I think people just need to let aggy do her thing where she's good. like you said, like boothill.
Is Rutilant Arena better for Aglaea in this team for some reason? Or have you not been able to get sufficiently powerful Bananamusement pieces yet? Fantastic showcase though! :D
Banana should honestly be BiS, I just don't have good pieces. Even on the slow Aglaea showcase, her banana sphere was ATK which is not ideal but hey, it has better overall set effect than Arena.
@@LisaraScarlet Let me ask you a question. Did anything happen before? I missed the point where you said don't compare your live server to a private server.
@@LisaraScarlet Oh, like this, I understand. They argue about agleae 2 cost, right? By the way, what do you think of xolze telos' playing style? I think the relics she has are really over ( i mean impossible) . I've seen her play tingyun at speed 204 and ues eagle dance dance dance s5 But I feel Both of your playing styles are very good. Just the playing style Completely different, that's all.
@ my Sunday is at 149 SPD + 248 CDmg (Lushaka + Sacerdos) with Bronya 145 SPD (Messenger + Keel). I kinda just gave whichever best relics i have to them
@@justaterrariafan3846 sig is just for base speed increse, so your buffs can increase the 12 bonus as well This setup should work as intended when she has full stacks. Does it not?
Slow aglaea has: 5 attack subs, 9 crit rate subs, and 14 crit damage subs while using an attack orb Speed subs are useless. 28 subs Fast aglaea has: 8 attack subs, 10 speed subs, 7 crit subs, and 12 crit damage subs while using dmg orb. 37 subs This comparison is really fair! Lol.
Let's assume that it was Lightning sphere and has the same substats. Do you really think slow Aglaea would suddenly have massive amounts of excess damage? Also, extra speed are not as useless as you think due to the stat conversion. Also, you are forgetting the fact that Banana provides 48CV while Arena only provides 16CV and 20% DMG. Banana is Aglaea's BiS, not Arena. No one could ever make a perfect comparison unless they can edit substats but this comparison still has its merits.
@@LisaraScarletit does have its merits, but the gear quality should be pointed out. I'm just saying that if you swap fast aglaea to atk orb (~5-10%dmg loss), banana (~4-6% dmg boost), and lose 7 crit subs (~10% dmg loss), there also wouldn't be much overkill. I mean, could you even 0c the first wave with the same setup on fast aglaea if she just did ~15% less damage?
@ My guy, you should watch my most recent video then. I used my really good Poet set and used a 3* LC on Aglaea. Although I gave Sunday his sig and ridiculous amounts of speed despite using Sacerdos only. The overkill damage improved a bit but still pretty close to what you saw in this video. Remember that the fast Aglaea Sunday setup was so scuffed, it uses a Bronya LC on him. I'm pretty sure that if you were to choose what to use, you'd rather go for Poised To Bloom + Dance3x.
If you get her E1 you can turn your brain off and clear. My 135 Agy 134 Sunday team 0-cycled on autoplay. No eidolons except the one on Aglaea herself. All of these guides are useful for E0 players; E1 is basically a skip button for having to minmax her team or use Sunday.
Yes but let me tell you: Its going to be a grind hell, especially if farming for her 4-pc set. I spent like 3.5k+ trailblaze power + 2 wishful resin modeling and.. best I could put it with decent crit stats was like ~145 speed tops. So I just settled on base SPD with 160SPD supports, found it way cheaper/easier on the resources. I'm E1S0 btw.
It's doable, I have an E1S0 Aglaea at 184 SPD (kinda overkill, but too much speed isn't a problem in this case). Using 2-pc + 2-pc Messenger and Sacerdos sets helps a lot. Wishful resin is also a lifesaver, especially if you're using just 1 to guarantee the SPD substat. My crit stats are obviously suffering as a result, but 60 CR/96 CDmg out of combat and around 92/280 in an Aglaea/Robin/Sunday/Fu Xuan team is serving me well. And if I switch out Robin for RMC, I'm could even overcap a little on CR and have even more CDmg.
okay but the herta has so much atk already?? 60% from technique and some more from ult talent...plus people usually run robin/HH, i really think ERR is a better rope for her
Thanks for the showcase but I am not 100% convinced yet. The slow build still have more potential than were not showcased here. - Your slow aglaea have worse relics (atk orb/ less effective substats overall in comparison to your fast aglaea) - Usability with an S0 aglaea because It suddenly become much harder with the fast aglaea setup - and even if you don't really want to argue with It (which is understandable) You can still run a dmg increase LC and sacredos on sunday with the help of an E2 bronya+DDD with 184 spd (on triple spd 2p set which is honestly hard but achievable with 8.5 spd on average or a mix of 3 to 4 spd subs per relic). So yeah just wanted to say that the ceiling for slow aglaea is higher than this showcase but I am not sure which of the two build has the higher ceiling in the end. I also wish I could test this myself but 150 pulls in and still no aglaea 😭.
i pulled aglaea on my friend's acc (bc he badly needed a lightning dps) and oh boy did we both regretted it. he has e0s1 sunday, e1 robin (no bronya / bis lc) but no huohuo. relics sucks bc damn set is not rolling any spd so i went rainbow. atp i shouldve pulled jingyuan on their acc instead 💀
Exactly like my account, but E0 robin with the event LC. At first, I kinda regretted it and thought I should've pulled jing yuan instead. But her play style is kinda fun. I went for slow Aglaea because I don't have her sig and rainbow relics. She isn't that bad though, with fast sunday I managed to 1 cycle svarog and I used gepard instead lol
E0 Aglaea with Sunday is about the same as E0 Jing Yuan for casual players, they're basically going to get you 3-4 cycle clears. Agy will be better with minmaxing like demonstrated in videos like these, she has a higher ceiling than him. I'm a dedicated JY main with top 1% gear for him and I pretty much matched his e0s1 performance with my day 1 Aglaea build (135 with 134 Sunday). Don't panic if you fall out of her ult stance, she does so much dmg inside it that you're still gonna win the fight lol. Don't forget ERR rope. I ended up getting her E1 after a day because it allows her to run any harmony on earth and still curbstomp content, so now Sunday is free to carry JY again ^^
@@Caspianstrill it must be relic diff bc when i went slow aglaea but with 4pc set it took me 6 cycles with the same support (+ qpq gallagher) but when i went higher spd but rainbow, it now took me 4 cycles to defeat svarog. aglaea on a casual account is tough
@@mike_ewul yeah, I got lucky with the relics cause I got her on my 2nd account that I barely play. But I spent dozens of my fuel cause I didn't prefarm anything lol. Managed to get 68% CR and 216 CDM with 106 speed out of battle. With Robin, you can get Aglaea (with err rope) to 100% ult uptime though. Like the other comment said, she'll be better with minmaxxing and kinda tricky to play. I hope your friend can get the most out of her on their account.
![[HSR 3.1v4] E0S0 Mydei team vs 4m5 HP Reaver Boss ft. Fast + DDD Tribbie build - No Limited Eidolons](/img/n.gif)
Update: At 7:24, I forgot to re-type all of Sunday's build. The images are all correct but the words are all wrong. It's Bronya LC, Sacerdos and Lushaka.
Obviously, this is the result of a couple of day testing but I still wouldn't say this is the be all end all comparison for the builds.
I'm already expecting a comment that will reference a "PRIVATE" server clear where a slow Aglaea can "2 cost" with double Dance3x, 180 speed supports and E2 Bronya. I mean, sure, go try replicating that and good luck.
For those who can't wait for my Aglaea guide and want my preliminary opinion on her, Aglaea is a skip. She's okay if you have Sunday or Huohuo but even then, she has so much restrictions. Not to mention, she isn't friendly with casual players unless you go for the fast Aglaea build used in this showcase. While I haven't done testing her in AS and PF, I get the feeling that her slow ULT gain and ramp up will cause issues. However, if you are simply trying to clear content, go ahead and pull for her, she will do the work.
Oh and for the Fast Aglaea Team, even RTB can use a slow build which can be seen here ua-cam.com/video/oKyi67CBHJg/v-deo.htmlsi=ZfcY_zz-wOzxVr4N
When I was checking her kit, how she felt in the story and during the trial in the event I was already feeling underwhelmed (and I have Sunday and huohuo built, too)
While playing her, I had a really strong feeling she was restrictive and a very "build around me" character where you need to tailor supports and their builds to how she plays.
It's nice to see I wasn't alone thinking of that restrictive playstyle. 🥺
@@LisaraScarlet don't get why people think fast sunday would be good idea lol
Hi, if my bron e2 can I go sunday with no speed vonwac to make him act before bron 1st time and then bron make him go before after that 😢
that spd boots with 29% cd is insane, ty for the amazing showcase as always
The biggest difficulty for me is pressing too fast and selecting aglaea with Bronya instead of Sunday lol
Thank you for this. The speed tuning for this team is such a pain.
Ok but playing her in the event felt awful😭 I feel like u actually NEED Sunday I have huohuo but the way her dmg,speed and garmentmaker disappear after ult ends feels so bad
Thus my pinned comment.
U can can use Tingyun E6 while waiting for sunday rerun, but Tingyun has to be super fast and Aglaea only moderate fast. And HuoHuo MUST equip QpQ
The event is actually the worst place possible to maintain ult uptime: in MoC you can extend ult with wave reset, in pf you have lots of kill energy, in AS you have energy on boss break, in SU you have energy from blessings. In the event you don’t even get kill energy since the enemies die from the mechanic instead.
Yeah i wouldnt go for her without sunday, but really enjoyed the character with him.
Shes such fun and have a lot of room to experiment with speed tuning, but is really expensive
the way you are meant to play aglaea: just try getting more spd and let Sunday make up for cr/cd. It is not a rocket science.
As for the event: It is not a 150av cycle and the action bar doesn't reset between waves. You can 0 cycle the final challenge with The Herta, Herta, RMC and Pela just because of permaults and constant 5 enemy on field
Lol I love the EDM kicking in as Lisara is about to dps burst with her team. Always on point!
I think for rotations that want to maximize number of turns, it's probably more optimal to use a Robin in such a team since she rewards additional actions a fair amount. I think it's easy to take for granted how much of a boost Robin is for strats like that, that if you don't use her, that the fall off between turns vs. buffs becomes more quickly felt. It's good that you showcase that there is always nuance to what might be optimal depending on the team and the fight. Good showcase. ♥
Ive been running RMC Sunday huohuo and still lose ult state buffs sometimes even with er rope on aglaea but no sig LC. Been wondering if E1 robin is better option or not but haven't tried it yet.
I love straight to the point guides.
I very like this kind of strategic video. Nice job bro💯
Yeah but in order to get 161 speeed on Aglaea you would need the signature LC (or sacrifice a bunch of substats) which I can't afford
Imma just stick to the fast Support set up for now and wait for a different Remembrance LC with speed passive (copium)
I mean that 161 speed requirement is already considering that her LC increases base speed by 12, so her 96% speed buff from stacks + set affect it as well
Without her sig you would need like 172. I dont think thats reasanoble at all for f2p, this setup is kinda soft locked by sig
Shes a really expensive unit I guess
@joaotrovaofilho If the 161 speed requirement already factors the 12 speed from the lc then why even say 161 speed? The lc speed literally shows up on the stat screen, doesn't it just make more sense to say 172 speed
@@joaotrovaofilho watc HoS' comparison, if you're using a team with a sustain 2x setup is worse.
@@Jenjenson0 Because her LC increases base speed, it isnt a normal speed bonus. That way, it gives you 12 speed pre-combat, and after you"re fully stacked you gain another ~12 from the 96% buff effect on that 12 base speed.
After all things considered her LC gives ~24 speed, but half of it only shows when you're fully buffed, so we cant speed tune pre combat based upon this
God Aglaea's release has cemented the brain death of the HSR community. Like, beacuse character has premium supports she is suddently "so restrictive", but EVERY character has premium supports. Ok, you cant 0-cycle with Aglaea and RMC/Bronya/Gallagher/whatever homeless supports you have. So what? Its not like ur gonna 0 cycle with Feixiao or Acheron or whoever with homeless supports either. Theres plenty of people who are already learning to navigate her kit with sub-optimal units. They will never release another character that takes actual brain cells to execute bc if the team doesnt build itself and autobattle for you, everyone just complains about how bad they are.
She is the single character most reliant on a premium team, its not like like everyone else
Besides, she still struggles for energy even on premium team, soft locks her fast playstyle behind sig (even then has rough-ish speed requirements), and isnt good on aoe
She has a lot of caveats to work well and is really f2p unfriendly, without being much better than current roster
She is for sure restrictive
@@joaotrovaofilho She's restrictive for sure.
She is, however, undoubtedly one of the best DPS, if not the best DPS at the moment with the right team set up.
That will change however, when The Herta gets her premium support.
At large there's no learning in the community, only regurgitation of someone else's take (since the game released btw). Like Lisara said in the pinned comment if it's just for clearing the content she will do it, only an incredibly small portion of the community going for the fastest clears have any room to complain about the premium requirements, but people lose sight of it parroting what creators have to say, especially when some of those treat the f2p experience like something miserable without even knowing the state of the game for those accounts.
The fun thing is how people changed the past and tells you how FF and Acheron arent that restrictive during their release 😂
But Aglaea its cursed because she needs 1 character to be t0 and some brain Power to be the "strongest DPS"
unbelievably based.
There was a post on Reddit some days ago stating the Fast Aglaea slow Sunday set up was “huge misinformation”. Wonder what caused such differing opinions.
I love when you explain the strategies
i don't know why, but that line about the balance of turns followed by aglaea's EBA in slow mo was so tuff 🔥
Since I am missing quite a few of the good light cones but have pretty decent relics, I chose to opt for a fast aglaea + fast sunday comp instead, with Aglaea at 251 spd in battle and Sunday at 160. Assuming Aglaea ults on Sunday's turn (or right before/after), he is able to advance her forward and still allow Aglaea to act one last time before her ult state ends. So what I ended up having was essentially the same action count as Aglaea 2x + 1 spd comp, but with one of her attacks buffed instead of unbuffed by Sunday. So far it has worked pretty decently for me in second wave (you can't get the last Aglaea action within 0 cycle at wave 1, unless you DDD or ult at 50 av which you can't lol), although I end up getting the unbuffed attack at the end of Aglaea's ult state instead lol
The hardest part is to reach 174 SPD on RTB.
However Sunday and Bronya builds are very cheap and easy to compensate.
It's not a requirement, check my reply on my pinned comment.
Videos like this are a reminder why you're my favorite HSR content creator.
Not pulling for aglea, but this tc is entertaining for me
Fast Aglaea into 1 single result w/ Sunday: you wanna lap 2 turns before Sunday, that's all because if not having enough spd, only one scenario exists until you reach the spd checkpoint: Aglaea moves before Sunday only 1 turn and that will remain true until you achieve the spd checkpoint for Aglaea Sunday spd ratio into 2 : 1 or the whole spd you get from relics are just meaningless. Or you don't play w/ Sunday, at all, because you have to build up spd to make up for lack of Sunday.
Its strength lies within the ease of build on Aglaea E0S1 (If without Sig, not recommending this setup because the spd threshold on E0S0 is unrealistic) though it can be statchecking like crazy since it's also balancing between spd and atk, crit stats, etc..., a less complicated non-eagle setup, and may result in more value as the fight goes on.
Weakness is you lose buffs very quickly, even Sacerdos' buffs and Sunday's sig. buff is spent right after one rotation. Sure you can sneak in a Sunday's ult to keep it in check, but other than that, you're achieving higher act counts but buffs drop off like it's nothing. The same sh*t happened with Sunday spd tune setup + RMC on like any DPS that can go spd tune. And the problem is you're not even sure if the number of acts are worth for losing buffs. Even if it's for Sunday on like 134 spd, buffs just disappear anyways.
This strategy exists since it's an angle that's achievable, but honestly it lies in the middle: It's good because it's easier to build, but it's also not the one with highest potential dmg, plus it also requires you to constantly check on buffs because, it's a 3-turn Aglaea before Sunday, so on a sustain team, this strat is not effective because you don't have like Bronya to double Sunday's charging spd, into constant dmg loss because you can't have ult constantly every rotation to keep the buffs on, and on a sustainless team (Agl + Sunday + Bronya + Robin) you may be able to clutch but there will be a rotation you can't and still dmg loss. The point is this is the scenario where fast aglaea into constant dmg loss in exchange for higher act counts, opposite to the playstyle where supports on high spd and Agl slow so you can setup like before.
And you don't need to have 180 spd supports sh*t to say like I don't need spd boots, you literally can play around Robin's ult, tune Sunday and Bronya around that, going into a 3 Robin ults setup that honestly it's achievable, not statchecked like crazy, and it's a setup that proves that slow builds can stand toe-to-toe w/ fast builds.
Personally, this is a meaningless vid. Not the run, but the arguments you want to make out of the vid, and the ppl wasting time arguing over this. You get offended by this but this is the reality: you don't debunk any because it's just between the setup that's easier to build but less buff duration, and the setup where you invest a bit more (still practical and not like unrealistic), higher buff duration, and the act counts can be comparable.
Not to mention, this high spd setup is only recommended for sb having E0S1. If any only has E0S0, I recommend, don't even go for this, because it's not worth at any point to go high spd builds because, her sig. gives base spd, you're gonna have to compensate a lot more spd to be comparable to a minimum 159 spd E0S1 for the 268 / 134 spd, to the point it's unrealistic and it's never worth going for that.
You cooked, for a sustain team the 2x setup is way worse than a slow ag and fast sunday.
@@kiniro8553 I mean it's practically obvious: with similar act counts, but each act on slow build gets way more, ofc the slow build should be more efficient, I thought my words indicate that.
Sorry can you explain it to me like I'm 5...
I have e0s0 Aglaea ( s1 Battle pass LC) e0s1 Sunday e0s0 Robin and I do have E2s0 bronya and e6s5 RMC but I'd rather use a sustain be it gallagher with qpq, fine fruit or shared feeling or fu xuan because if I can't 0 cycle sustainless is always useless because you literally die right?
What speeds should I use? Currently it's 135 Aglaea (out of combat 142 in combat because 4pc) and 134 Sunday+Keel/Lushanka/voncrack? , 122 Robin +voncrack and 160 gallagher e6s5 qpq.
And no I'm not getting her sig I tried and lost 75/25 (and 0 DDD's btw...) and I am saving for Mydei and a huohuo in future.
@ go 0 spd aglaea with atk boots and sunday as fast as you can ideally 160.
@@Splinnee E0S0 then never build fast Aglaea because again, it's unrealistic to reach that spd checkpoint w/o Sig, it's like from 159-162 to about 17x, which is honestly not worth. So yeah slow Aglaea, fast Sunday, should be the ideal setup.
You can find HoS's speed tuning guide for Aglaea, should be there and have particular cases that you might want to check. Also, Gallagher for sustain.
I literally don't care about Aglea but i'm here to give you views and because i love your dedication! Keep it up!
Do you use any tools or techs to calculate stat breakpoints for a character to have enough impact?
Your battle planner is really useful for me to figure out speed breakpoints, but i struggle to know how many actions i need to 0-cycle
No. Typically, I just try different kind of strats w/o knowing if it will have enough damage or not. However, checking damage breakpoints is important. For example, switching ATK rope to ER rope can be the difference maker since sometimes, you already have more than enough damage and spamming ULTs actually gets the clear.
Svarog got humble after this 0 cycle.
The fast agalea build is hard to do w/o base spd increase from sig...
Is it possible to run 117.4 spd Sunday bronya and have S5 DDD push them back to 0 cycle, so that agalea can run with lower spd w/o sig? Not sure since DDD could complicate Agalea's action order relative to them as well.
I already thought about this before, the issue is how advance forward is heavily diminished at super high speed. The only thing it does is to increase the speed requirements for Aglaea even further. It is a very interesting interaction due to how advance forward works.
Amazing video. Love the speedtuning possibilities agalea brings especially since i lucked into an E6 bronya, but the energy restrictions without her e1 make her a skip for me.
Hoping another SP neutral carry comes out soon
i have been waiting for a unit that acts a bunch of times like follow ups and dot with multiple instance of dmg and they made aglaea and she seems very fun, but if they reduce her max energy cost, or make it so when she exits supreme stance, she retains like 3 stacks so she can reenter supreme stance with like 5 to 6 stacks. still pulled her since she looks fun. im not mad the fact at f2p, she will likely exit supreme stance which is not like a bad thing since some part of her kit is meant for that like the insta action advance when skill and stuff and can be her weakness but they made her energy cost so high it is almost crazy. question cause i saw guoba certified aglaea guide and he said for the fast aglaea and slow supports set up, u need her sig lc or else it wont work, is it true?
You don't "need" the signature but it makes it way easier to build.
i want to use aglaea with sunday and robin, what spd should u tune them for? This is what im trying to achieve right now
Aglaea: 162
Sunday: 134
That tuning should be fine. Assuming Aglaea is using signature.
@LisaraScarlet Yes I'm using her signature, thanks!
Whats the song for the slow aglaea showcasev
Actually i need the song for the fast aglaea too, they are so good
Both in the description.
Any difference if using Robin instead of RMC?
I have 133.6 Sunday and 160 Aglaea, so she hits double speed, but sometimes I still find myself falling out of ult even with ERR rope and HuoHuo.
I tried 161 Sunday with 159 Aglaea (166 in combat start), and the downtime seemed not as bad since Sunday’s last push lets Aglaea get one more turn (like 1AV) before the end of her supreme state.
I haven't tested much with Robin but I assume that it's better to go for fast supports and slow Aglaea with her.
How about both aglaea and supports are fast ? twice more turns right?
The problem with fast Aglaea is that if you have 160 speed Sunday, then your final Aglaea speed should reach 320 so she can get 2 turns before Sunday acts. Else, if you can't do that, then just sacrifice all speed to boost her damage more. She would still reach higher speed than a fast Sunday once she reaches max stacks.
You once told me that
"Spending extra jades to refill for stamina and farm relics isn't as expensive as you think because I never max refill in the first place."
I want to know
Does this mean that in patch 3.0 and above,
Will you spend money buy self modeling resin and wishful resin ?
Then how much will you buy self modeling resin and wishful resin? Or do you not think of buying at all ?
I saw that it can be bought in the shop
Have 2 set herta contract : startegic Cooperation and startegic support
in set startegic Cooperation
you can choose 6 self modeling resin or 6 wishful resin
1 set can buy 2 time = you can buy to choose 12 self modeling resin or 12 wishful resin or 6 self modeling resin and 6 wishful resin
and in set startegic support
you can buy 5 time and and choose 10
self modeling resin or 10 wishful resin or choose 5 self modeling resin and 5 wishful resin
I think if you buy all you might have as
1. 22 self modeling resin
2. 22 wishful resin
3.11 self modeling resin and 11 wishful resin
you can take 3 self modeling resin for exchange 1 variable dice
and you can bay 2 variable dice from nameless glory and medel and + 2 self modeling resin and 2 wishful resin
Do you think to buy all set at i say for to do 0 cycle ? or you don't care to buy for 0 cycle ?
I did buy all wishful resins since I personally think that with my luck, I technically spend less by getting the relic I want with wishful resins than farming them using TB power. I do still refill 3-5 times a day. 5 times when I badly need something. 3 times when I'm just casually playing.
The feeling of FOMO scares me beacuse of how agleas turns been super fun but i need TRIBBIE
Does the fast aglaea build still work with E2 bronya, since it break's Sunday's speed tuning? Does that just raise Aglaea's required speed in order to not be cut by sunday?
Yes but push Aglaea directly.
What are your thoughts on e1s1 aglaea and using the ult's early for extra action advance and maintaining the stacks even with att rope, is it always better to bring up sunday over aglaea with mem as you lose the sup buffs not going to aglaea in exchange for 1 hit of garm, its so fast paced its hard to see who is doing the damage out of the two without a record feature. I also had the thought of no sustain and using bronya, is it worth me using my 2 free standard pulls to get her e1? Ive been holding them just in case, the alternative is more himeko to get closer to e6. How viable is a s3 DDD on bronya as i dont have her sig. (sunday is e1s1 too)
Better use Mem support on Aglaea. If you really like Aglaea, her E1 is very good for her. S3 DDD on Bronya is still okay but if you're trying to get a 3rd action within the 0-cycle, then you'll need to increase her speed a lot. If you're just casually playing, just leave your supports at 160 and there's no need to use DDD.
If for whatever reason Aglaea can't reach 160+ speed (no sig/bad relics)
is there a particular sweet spot where slow Aglaea is better to use over any speed threshold? (115/135/155 SPD)
Slow Aglaea build doesn't need any speed at all. The issue is the fact that Sunday is too fast that she can't get double his speed. Thus, you give up on all speed.
I just watched the whole video, and my god looking at that speed on Bronya's body piece is mind boggling to say the least😅😅😅
Which Bronya though. There are 2 builds for each character at the end.
@@LisaraScarletthe one featured in the Builds chapter, at 10:43. From my understanding, it's the high speed build.
@ Oh yea, I have two of them too. The other is 10 speed. It was an extremely lucky day, got both at the same day.
Would you still say this is the case when running Aglaea outside of 0 cycles with sustains? If it is better, then I’ll swap my builds, but I just want to make sure as it does feel like all the AA and extra stat buffs are helping to maintain Aglaea’s DPS output with her faster build.
If you use a sustain, the only difference maker is if you can reach max stacks on Aglaea before 2nd wave starts. Slow Aglaea doesn't really mind a bit lower stacks since it reaches higher speed than a fast Sunday. For the fast Aglaea, the logic behind it is to reach 2x the speed of slow Sunday which is not possible with less than max stacks.
for a sustain team 2x is worse, watch HoS's comparison.
How does all of this apply to E1S1 Aglaea?
I think you can just use whatever for E1S1 Aglaea lol. But hmmm, I really don't use eidolons so I can't say much. I'm just gonna assume that since the slow build won't require an energy rope anymore, the slow build might be better.
If fast aglaea is stronger does that make her light cone better than E1? Or does E1 change the rotation making it stronger than lc ? You're not even using er rope making the E1 look useless
E1 is better.
@LisaraScarlet i see thank u i love ur channel btw❤
What's the sound track for the battles?
ua-cam.com/video/YCIG3RaPnwA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/J9IwRWu70NQ/v-deo.html
I have her premium team with E0S1 Sunday and E0s0 houhou along with E0S1 Aglaea. My Aglaea has 162 SPD, do I build atk% or err rope and for orb do I go lighting dmg boost or atk%? Thanks in advance
I never really found a need to use an ER rope on fast Aglaea with slow supports. However, I always found myself needing an ER rope for slow Aglaea + fast supports.
Does the fast Aglaea / slow supports work with Bronya E2 ?
Yes. Just make sure to push Aglaea directly with Bronya.
Is fast Aglaea even worth to do without her signature? Also how would you speed tune with an e2 bronya?
Should be worth but it's gonna be hard to reach the required speed. E2 Bronya should just push Aglaea directly.
@@LisaraScarlet What speed should I push for on Aglaea then? Bronya e2 is only 1 turn so I doubt it would be possible to get 2 turns before sunday's next turn, or does that not matter?
@ It is actually possible but damn, welcome to speed tuning hell. I haven't done the calcs, you should try to learn how to use my battle planner. Link is in the description.
@@LisaraScarletDamn I guess that's what I'll have to do 😔
I really want her but Robin says otherwise😢
can you make a comparison between jing yuan and aglaea?
I don't really make side by side comparisons for characters. There's too many factors to consider to make it fair.
what do if you clicked bronya e2?
Boost Aglaea directly, the speed is converted into some attack. Don't forget Bronya's skill also provides a huge DMG%.
thanks!
what about +1 setup at 160 (fast aglaea and fast supports)? does support speed not matter if you can't get them to take 3 turns?
The reason why fast Aglaea + fast supports is pointless is because you can't get Aglaea to be 2x faster than the fast supports, the speed requirements would be ridiculous. Meanwhile, slow Aglaea still reaches 200+ speed even if she doesn't try to get any speed which will meet the requirements for the +1 speed setup.
@@LisaraScarlet You dont have to get her 2x faster. Faster support means more turns for these means permanent buff uptime. Fast aglaea + fast support is better than fast aglaea + 134 sunday. Not by huge margins, but it does deal more damage over the same amount of time. So its not pointless. If you have the items lying around to get your sunday to 160 its just better.
@ No.
@ Wdym "no" lmao.
I'd be curious to see this same comparison but for other teams, namely with huohuo; robin; sunday bc from my experience the 2x setup was worse than slow aglaea and fast support but maybe its just me idk.
I have a Spd boot that’s pretty cracked but kept seeing Atk boot recommended if she’s not at like 174 Spd l, so I tried Atk > Spd and what I consistently found was the first cycle was significantly more difficult to clear without going into the next one than running the Spd boots.
This is with my Aglaea only having 127 Spd pre combat and with s1 BP LC, she easily gets enough Spd to overtake fast Sunday and nearly always is in ult state. Meanwhile with Atk boots I was constantly falling out of ult state and had to build up stacks all over again. Not to mention I did the same if not more damage with those Spd boots.
Yeah idc Spd always feels better lol
yeah i ran this exact team except my aglaea’s running 2spd+2spd with 65/115 crit ratio + err rope and still managed to 0-cycle svarog
when im building for the break point do i include the spd buff from relic set?
If the buff activate in the start of the battle (like Ruan Mei's spd buff) or off battle.
For Aglaea you need the 160 SPD off battle. Because these breakpoints can change the results if you get then in the mid of the battle.
But what about fast Aglaea + fast Sunday?
It just doesn't work because the concept of fast Aglaea is to outspeed Sunday by having twice his speed. If you have a 160 speed Sunday, that means you need Aglaea's final speed to hit 320. That ain't gonna happen unless you do some shenanigans.
the discourse around aglaea is really funny if youve actually listened to how people talk about every other dps because its the exact same conversation everybody has about every dps unit:
firefly releases: "Youre locked into using ruan mei + hmc!!! MID!!!!"
acheron releases: "Youre locked into two nihility. Youre locked into Jiaoqiu!!! FELL OFF"
Feixiao releases: "Youre locked into Robin fua units!!! RESTRICTIVE BAAAAAAHH"
Herta releases: "She needs so much energy waaaaaaaaa"
and then like 2 versions later everybody loves them and glazes them up and down like no tomorrow. And its not just with T0 units, its with other units too. Its not that serious, just wait like 2 versions and trust everybody will be singing Aglaea's praises. Either that or itll be another Jing Yuan situation. And Jing Yuan isnt even bad.
I agree that some vocal minority can be quite noisy, I think Aglaea will be more like Boothill. People would sing him praises whenever he does his thing ... which doesn't really happen often. I would put Aglaea in the same boat since I don't think she excels at PF and AS.
@LisaraScarlet I have aglaea e0s0. I think she's a comfy A tier with her signature robin/sunday duo team which I run (have no huohuo). I think people just need to let aggy do her thing where she's good. like you said, like boothill.
Lisara ❤
Is Rutilant Arena better for Aglaea in this team for some reason? Or have you not been able to get sufficiently powerful Bananamusement pieces yet? Fantastic showcase though! :D
Banana should honestly be BiS, I just don't have good pieces. Even on the slow Aglaea showcase, her banana sphere was ATK which is not ideal but hey, it has better overall set effect than Arena.
I am curious, is fast Aglaea with fast supports a good strategy ?
No.
Yes. Its mathematically the best build.
protips
1 use robin
2 go fastest as you can to maximize robin proc
less headache with spd tuning
I agree i am thai
OMG So are you trying to say, just use all premium supports and I win?!
@@LisaraScarlet Let me ask you a question.
Did anything happen before? I missed the point where you said don't compare your live server to a private server.
@ Some commenters often reference private server clears for their argument.
@@LisaraScarlet Oh, like this, I understand.
They argue about agleae 2 cost, right?
By the way, what do you think of xolze telos' playing style? I think the relics she has are really over ( i mean impossible) .
I've seen her play tingyun at speed 204 and ues eagle dance dance dance s5
But I feel Both of your playing styles are very good. Just the playing style Completely different, that's all.
2k8 ATK + 161 SPD. Demm.... My Aglaea is only at 2k6 ATK + 150 SPD... Finding that 11 SPD will be hard as hell
You need 10 speed as long as your Sunday is specifically 134 speed.
@ my Sunday is at 149 SPD + 248 CDmg (Lushaka + Sacerdos) with Bronya 145 SPD (Messenger + Keel). I kinda just gave whichever best relics i have to them
@ Too fast, Aglaea would struggle to get 2 turns before Sunday.
@@LisaraScarlet yes i guess imma need to farm more to get lower speed build on them
Im still confused with the speed tuning things for aglaea
My speed rn:
Sunday: 135
Aglaea: 164
If you do have her sig, that should work just as showed on vídeo
If you dont, will need something like 172 on her
@joaotrovaofilho Oh, that 164 spd already have the sig on, i forgot to include that
@@justaterrariafan3846 sig is just for base speed increse, so your buffs can increase the 12 bonus as well
This setup should work as intended when she has full stacks. Does it not?
lamia ost 🤩
6:50 was smooth
Slow aglaea has: 5 attack subs, 9 crit rate subs, and 14 crit damage subs while using an attack orb
Speed subs are useless. 28 subs
Fast aglaea has: 8 attack subs, 10 speed subs, 7 crit subs, and 12 crit damage subs while using dmg orb. 37 subs
This comparison is really fair! Lol.
Let's assume that it was Lightning sphere and has the same substats. Do you really think slow Aglaea would suddenly have massive amounts of excess damage? Also, extra speed are not as useless as you think due to the stat conversion. Also, you are forgetting the fact that Banana provides 48CV while Arena only provides 16CV and 20% DMG. Banana is Aglaea's BiS, not Arena. No one could ever make a perfect comparison unless they can edit substats but this comparison still has its merits.
@@LisaraScarletit does have its merits, but the gear quality should be pointed out. I'm just saying that if you swap fast aglaea to atk orb (~5-10%dmg loss), banana (~4-6% dmg boost), and lose 7 crit subs (~10% dmg loss), there also wouldn't be much overkill. I mean, could you even 0c the first wave with the same setup on fast aglaea if she just did ~15% less damage?
@ My guy, you should watch my most recent video then. I used my really good Poet set and used a 3* LC on Aglaea. Although I gave Sunday his sig and ridiculous amounts of speed despite using Sacerdos only. The overkill damage improved a bit but still pretty close to what you saw in this video. Remember that the fast Aglaea Sunday setup was so scuffed, it uses a Bronya LC on him. I'm pretty sure that if you were to choose what to use, you'd rather go for Poised To Bloom + Dance3x.
Had to pull aglaea 🥵🗿
Nice showcase. I’m just sad that Sparkle became useless 😢 she’s one of my fav characters but can’t use her with Aglaea or THerta
Fast Aglaea truthers rise up
I may be understanding 🤔
Im lacking Aglaea LC and have Robin less contested than TB for the other side, fast supports slow Aeglaea seems to be the way for me.
With Robin, yes. I probably should've pointed this out.
❤
How about aglaea as feixiao battery :D
She builds her ULT too slow to make it effective at 1st wave.
Is fast aglea slow support viable without sig? Im thinking of getting her e1s0
Yes but you still need to achieve the speed required.
If you get her E1 you can turn your brain off and clear. My 135 Agy 134 Sunday team 0-cycled on autoplay. No eidolons except the one on Aglaea herself. All of these guides are useful for E0 players; E1 is basically a skip button for having to minmax her team or use Sunday.
Yes but let me tell you: Its going to be a grind hell, especially if farming for her 4-pc set. I spent like 3.5k+ trailblaze power + 2 wishful resin modeling and.. best I could put it with decent crit stats was like ~145 speed tops.
So I just settled on base SPD with 160SPD supports, found it way cheaper/easier on the resources. I'm E1S0 btw.
It's doable, I have an E1S0 Aglaea at 184 SPD (kinda overkill, but too much speed isn't a problem in this case).
Using 2-pc + 2-pc Messenger and Sacerdos sets helps a lot. Wishful resin is also a lifesaver, especially if you're using just 1 to guarantee the SPD substat.
My crit stats are obviously suffering as a result, but 60 CR/96 CDmg out of combat and around 92/280 in an Aglaea/Robin/Sunday/Fu Xuan team is serving me well. And if I switch out Robin for RMC, I'm could even overcap a little on CR and have even more CDmg.
Any chance you would use your real voice in the future? I promise you it's going to be superior to the current one
No. I hate my voice and it triggers my anxiety.
If only this wasn't RNG hell, like I can get high spd but not without sacrificing other stats, my RMC is currently 162 spd but only 180 cdmg.
Then you might've missed my pinned comment, check this video ua-cam.com/video/oKyi67CBHJg/v-deo.htmlsi=jE-R_vc579enT975
I did try both I find slow aglaea better 133 speed Sunday 174
My slow aglaea 0 cycles but I use robin over RMC so that's probably why
If you watched the video, the Slow Aglaea also 0-cycled but w/o excess damage unlike the Fast one with so much excess.
The herta obv solo'd the other half /j
this account is not relatable.
would love to see a normie showcase (no 0 cycle, with sustain)
2:22 Who is Aglaya?
Oops!
#stopabusingchickenboy 😥😥
I pulled E1 Robin Instead and I’m starting to really feel like I dodged a bullet
E1 robin is just so good for your account
E0 aglaea might make you only 1 good team
"Lisara" the Queen of Speedtuning
okay but the herta has so much atk already?? 60% from technique and some more from ult talent...plus people usually run robin/HH, i really think ERR is a better rope for her
What?
What?
Uhm... This is NOT about Herta.
I mean.
*What?*
Lisara still on the Aglaea glaze lol. I thought she was gonna be humble and admit the misstep.
"Lisara on the Aglaea glaze"
Me on pinned comment: Aglaea is a skip.
*surprised pikachu face*
@LisaraScarlet If only addendums can erase our misgivings, no?
Thanks for the showcase but I am not 100% convinced yet.
The slow build still have more potential than were not showcased here.
- Your slow aglaea have worse relics (atk orb/ less effective substats overall in comparison to your fast aglaea)
- Usability with an S0 aglaea because It suddenly become much harder with the fast aglaea setup
- and even if you don't really want to argue with It (which is understandable) You can still run a dmg increase LC and sacredos on sunday with the help of an E2 bronya+DDD with 184 spd (on triple spd 2p set which is honestly hard but achievable with 8.5 spd on average or a mix of 3 to 4 spd subs per relic).
So yeah just wanted to say that the ceiling for slow aglaea is higher than this showcase but I am not sure which of the two build has the higher ceiling in the end.
I also wish I could test this myself but 150 pulls in and still no aglaea 😭.
They shoyld just put her in the standard banner as the standard remembrance 5*. She feels like an incomplete unit at E0S0 😅
i pulled aglaea on my friend's acc (bc he badly needed a lightning dps) and oh boy did we both regretted it. he has e0s1 sunday, e1 robin (no bronya / bis lc) but no huohuo. relics sucks bc damn set is not rolling any spd so i went rainbow. atp i shouldve pulled jingyuan on their acc instead 💀
gallaher with qpq is good tho lol, u can see alot of showcases with them together
Exactly like my account, but E0 robin with the event LC. At first, I kinda regretted it and thought I should've pulled jing yuan instead. But her play style is kinda fun. I went for slow Aglaea because I don't have her sig and rainbow relics. She isn't that bad though, with fast sunday I managed to 1 cycle svarog and I used gepard instead lol
E0 Aglaea with Sunday is about the same as E0 Jing Yuan for casual players, they're basically going to get you 3-4 cycle clears. Agy will be better with minmaxing like demonstrated in videos like these, she has a higher ceiling than him. I'm a dedicated JY main with top 1% gear for him and I pretty much matched his e0s1 performance with my day 1 Aglaea build (135 with 134 Sunday). Don't panic if you fall out of her ult stance, she does so much dmg inside it that you're still gonna win the fight lol. Don't forget ERR rope.
I ended up getting her E1 after a day because it allows her to run any harmony on earth and still curbstomp content, so now Sunday is free to carry JY again ^^
@@Caspianstrill it must be relic diff bc when i went slow aglaea but with 4pc set it took me 6 cycles with the same support (+ qpq gallagher) but when i went higher spd but rainbow, it now took me 4 cycles to defeat svarog. aglaea on a casual account is tough
@@mike_ewul yeah, I got lucky with the relics cause I got her on my 2nd account that I barely play. But I spent dozens of my fuel cause I didn't prefarm anything lol. Managed to get 68% CR and 216 CDM with 106 speed out of battle. With Robin, you can get Aglaea (with err rope) to 100% ult uptime though. Like the other comment said, she'll be better with minmaxxing and kinda tricky to play. I hope your friend can get the most out of her on their account.
lol ty for this dreamy, ive been debating this since ive gotten her 🤍