I guess it was pretty fast to re-route traffic , and repair basic roads. NO dis on the misty men , just one of many reasons why MORE Light Infantry could have changed things.
The Ho Chi Minh Trail is covered by tropical rain forest; it’s very wet, dense, and filled with many dangerous things like poisonous snakes, bugs, leeches, and the most dangerous of all: mosquitoes. Most Vietnamese who died on the Ho Chi Minh Trail succumbed to malaria
I was in school while this was going never new of the extreme danger these young men were in at that time.only now as a senior citizen do I recognize the guts this took for this group to perform this service.and of course news media never covered this,mostly it was the protest at home about the war.
@@Air-bear that is awful you had to learn what that felt like, thank you for your service Gadfly!! We owe you the utmost respect and honor for what you kids did then. Can't imagine being there myself at 24 let alone get drafted at 18 like my friend at work did!
In 1959 my grandfather(then a warrant officer Seabees) was the team leader of the first Zorro team inserted into Laos to scout out HCM trail junctions, bridges and the like in Cambodia, Laos. They operated as civilians, all military connections were wiped clear. It is brought up in the book "Building the Bases".
27 May 1964 LBJ talked Vietnam with Senator Richard Russell. They concluded that any attempt at victory would mean a general war with China. They also concluded that bombing supply lines would fail because it had failed in Korea. The men in this video were knowing dent on a fool's errand by LBJ.
...yeah the worst thing being, LBJ already had realized there would be no easy way out of Vietnam if the whole mission backfired, which was very likely to happen - but he deliberately forced America into it anyway.
It was a quait excellent information documentary about mesty aviation operations over infamous Ho chii minh trail supporter line missions through Laos 🇱🇦 and Cambodian 🇰🇭 jungle borders with south Vietnam 🇻🇳...during Vietnam wars
...for not seeing Vietnam through? Yes certainly, also a corrupt, back-stabbing fool. When Tet happened in early 1968 it became clear that America's war in Vietnam had gone horribly wrong, and there would be no fast or easy way out. And the entire blame for the debacle was inevitably laid at LBJ's feet. I think a big part of the reason LBJ agonized over Vietnam was this: he knew he'd actually helped murder JFK mainly just to get America into this war - and this same war was now unwinnable, with no good way to get out of it again.
TY misty gentlemen. In hindsight it looks like a Light Infantry war , sorry the lessons of the "Malayian Emergency" in anti-communist guerilla warfare were not remembered in Viet Nam.
@@robertheinkel6225 facts I'm convinced we are afraid to win after korea,Vietnam and seeing the fear of escalation with russia now it's like we dont want to win just make forever wars
But they still got the stuff through. With that amount of "accurate" bombs they threw on that trail, it should have been easy. And they supposedly had that great intelligence... US still lost
Easy? Maybe with 2024's technology, it'd been a bit less impossible. But even had these guys had such it would be nothing close to easy. Ho Chi Minh trail was of course NOT one route, like the 5 freeway in southern calofirnia, it went for hundreds if not thousands of miles and changed almost daily. And the NVA soon began deploying some very heavy firepower to protect it. And it is known as a matter of fact, that when American presence in this war ended c. 1973, the Soviets even then were about to deploy MANPADS ("Man portable air defense system"). And if the war had continued 3 or 4 more years, American aircraft would inevitably have been the targets of MANPADs (like the Soviet "Strella") in the hands of the NVA!
Yep wars sure seem to be like that - last war American achieved something was Dessert Storm in 1991, and "Operation Iraqi freedom" 10 years after that -
Not true. There definitely was a trail going thru Loas and Cambodia which the U.S nicknamed the Ho Chi Min trail but the Vietnamese used the river and coast as well. The used any way they could to get men and material south
No matter what this documentary tells you, the whole war was fought out of Laos by the CIA The deeper it was fought over heroin distribution not over the spread of communism
Great videos - but the first 10 minutes can't help me think we're repeating the same mistakes with not hitting Russian air/anti air assets in Russia and making the same damn mistakes asking Ukraine to fight with one arm tied behind their back. We got North Korean/Iranian missiles being fired into Ukraine... So why can't Ukraine do the same thing? The line has already been crossed.
Great appreciation for the creators of this video, chronicling, personalizing, and preserving these Misty men's stories, our history 🙏🕊
The ability of the Vietnamese to rebuild the routes after bombing was remarkable.
Not at all. So many miles of trails.
I guess it was pretty fast to re-route traffic , and repair basic roads. NO dis on the misty men , just one of many reasons why MORE Light Infantry could have changed things.
Tons of tons of Soviet equipment just passing through the jungle that’s why agent orange started to be used
The Ho Chi Minh Trail is covered by tropical rain forest; it’s very wet, dense, and filled with many dangerous things like poisonous snakes, bugs, leeches, and the most dangerous of all: mosquitoes. Most Vietnamese who died on the Ho Chi Minh Trail succumbed to malaria
I was in school while this was going never new of the extreme danger these young men were in at that time.only now as a senior citizen do I recognize the guts this took for this group to perform this service.and of course news media never covered this,mostly it was the protest at home about the war.
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Perhaps you are an American then. Because medias in Viet Nam covered the hardships on the trail in clear details
This was quite Excellent! Thank you!
The Misty's were truly crusaders. They should be given more credit for their sacrifices.
Gadfly here 😧. Lordy…you are bringing back memories. Conflicted though they be.
Did you fly for misty?
@@Gloocar gadfly here🫣. Oh no, I didn’t fly jet planes. I was in the jungle underneath the
@@Gloocar gadfly here. Got I interrupted, meant to tell you I know what “danger close” feels like😵💫
@@Air-bear that is awful you had to learn what that felt like, thank you for your service Gadfly!! We owe you the utmost respect and honor for what you kids did then. Can't imagine being there myself at 24 let alone get drafted at 18 like my friend at work did!
@@Air-bear Welcome home. I wish you and your family well.
In 1959 my grandfather(then a warrant officer Seabees) was the team leader of the first Zorro team inserted into Laos to scout out HCM trail junctions, bridges and the like in Cambodia, Laos. They operated as civilians, all military connections were wiped clear. It is brought up in the book "Building the Bases".
What was he doing in a neutral Country, in civilian clothes 😮
@andyb.1026 ask our government
@@andyb.1026 He already told us, GOSH
great documentary
42:53 "thats life I guess..." Damn
Misty Gentlemen, thank you, in my heart, wherever you are 🕊
Thank you.
We had a Jolly Green on our ship that picked up two flyers in the Gulf of Tonkin in 1973
27 May 1964 LBJ talked Vietnam with Senator Richard Russell. They concluded that any attempt at victory would mean a general war with China. They also concluded that bombing supply lines would fail because it had failed in Korea. The men in this video were knowing dent on a fool's errand by LBJ.
...yeah the worst thing being, LBJ already had realized there would be no easy way out of Vietnam if the whole mission backfired, which was very likely to happen - but he deliberately forced America into it anyway.
These are compelling stories from Misty pilots’ missions during the Vietnam War. 🎉
"Misty 11"
"Master zero 1"
Tht hit different
Personally I went and pooped....
💪🏆🎖️🙏🤗
Thank you for sharing this
My papa flew in misty! Richard Meyer! I love you papa I’m so proud you’re my grand father!!
It was a quait excellent information documentary about mesty aviation operations over infamous Ho chii minh trail supporter line missions through Laos 🇱🇦 and Cambodian 🇰🇭 jungle borders with south Vietnam 🇻🇳...during Vietnam wars
True men, true heroes. I wish
the politicians hadn't failed us, but then we wouldn't have these heroes....all of them.
Heroes you say, which ones?
LBJ WAS A COWARD
...for not seeing Vietnam through? Yes certainly, also a corrupt, back-stabbing fool.
When Tet happened in early 1968 it became clear that America's war in Vietnam had gone horribly wrong, and there would be no fast or easy way out. And the entire blame for the debacle was inevitably laid at LBJ's feet. I think a big part of the reason LBJ agonized over Vietnam was this: he knew he'd actually helped murder JFK mainly just to get America into this war - and this same war was now unwinnable, with no good way to get out of it again.
Misty 11.......master 01
That was a very intense & moving story.
A lot of NVA drivers were women, driving through jungle with no lights
TY misty gentlemen. In hindsight it looks like a Light Infantry war , sorry the lessons of the "Malayian Emergency" in anti-communist guerilla warfare were not remembered in Viet Nam.
The Americans were not interested in all the experience and knowledge of the French, the British or the Ausis, they knew better 😢
And they considered the Vietnamese as inferior Gooks,,, Never underestimate the enemy, especially in his home land 🙄
How much money did the munitions manufacturers make frm these rediculous bombing sorties especially over Laos .. so disgraceful
Well, they gotta make money somehow. Diamond studded swimming pools don't grow on trees you know!
So I guess it is better to allow Russia to take over another country?
All the money
I was a Tunnel Rat I LOVE MY FLAG.
Do you love your country?
@@buzz5969 BE REAL
@@nickmad887 For All I know you could be referencing a rainbow colored flag amigo. There are many different FlAGs out there.
Why go to war with no plan to invade the north while trying to fig guerrilla fighters moving from the north to the south in 3 different countries
Politics
When congress knows better how to win a war than the military
@@robertheinkel6225 facts I'm convinced we are afraid to win after korea,Vietnam and seeing the fear of escalation with russia now it's like we dont want to win just make forever wars
Spooky AC130 AT NIGHT
But they still got the stuff through. With that amount of "accurate" bombs they threw on that trail, it should have been easy. And they supposedly had that great intelligence... US still lost
Lol war ain't easy bud but that's okay your from Minnesota explains a lot.
@@tacticalspoon4506 And there is the intelligence.
Easy? Maybe with 2024's technology, it'd been a bit less impossible. But even had these guys had such it would be nothing close to easy. Ho Chi Minh trail was of course NOT one route, like the 5 freeway in southern calofirnia, it went for hundreds if not thousands of miles and changed almost daily. And the NVA soon began deploying some very heavy firepower to protect it.
And it is known as a matter of fact, that when American presence in this war ended c. 1973, the Soviets even then were about to deploy MANPADS ("Man portable air defense system"). And if the war had continued 3 or 4 more years, American aircraft would inevitably have been the targets of MANPADs (like the Soviet "Strella") in the hands of the NVA!
All that energy, lost of life, cost of the war machine all for nothing
Thanks to your politicians. Oh, and what party were they?
Yep wars sure seem to be like that - last war American achieved something was Dessert Storm in 1991, and "Operation Iraqi freedom" 10 years after that -
✨🏴✨🥰✨👍✨♥️✨🤗✨.
who is red tag?
what are you talking about?
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Ho Chi Mihn trail was a red herring. The supply line was on the coast ran by the fisherman.
Not true. There definitely was a trail going thru Loas and Cambodia which the U.S nicknamed the Ho Chi Min trail but the Vietnamese used the river and coast as well. The used any way they could to get men and material south
It wasn't a trail it was a highway brother
@@goldfinger-ub3fl eventually it was basically a highway. It started out as dirt trails
Memories, war is what happens when evil goes insane.à
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"to probe our theories" nice way to say they were bombarding civilians without mercy
Most heroic keyboard warrior....
You misinterpreted his words.
And? I fail to see the problem. They hid behind and among the populace and so it's all fair game.
@@smellygoatacres facts!
And now they have ptsd and are seen as victims and war hero's 😂
No matter what this documentary tells you, the whole war was fought out of Laos by the CIA
The deeper it was fought over heroin distribution not over the spread of communism
ill say anticommunism had a big part on it, the drugs where just for profit, the CIA way
AIR AMERICA .. you see Americans dont even know about America , in fact Americans know nothing about nothing
Misty lost and they still mad about it
Still lost the war
Paris Peace Accords.
NO....A Peace Treaty was signed in France early 73 , South Vietnam lost the war.
The US Government lost it NOT the US air force or other ! Same as the mess in Afghanistan sadly.
We haven’t won a war since ww2
@@jafo766 you can never accept you lost & got your sorry arses whooped & you were kicked out of there
Great information.
Best option:
Please follow Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior 🙏🙏🙏.
Pretty sure that doesn't help extinguish napalm.
@@takeohtyme Never underestimate the power of thoughts and prayers! :P
Baby Jesus let a pedo KILL my little baby and 30 free range hens then he let a drunk driver KILL my new girlfriend at Christmas in 2020 sadly.
@@takeohtymeMaybe not, but you'll definitely be saved for free
Những kẻ giết người máu lạnh
...then so is every man who ever fought a war ever. Including your beloved NVA army.
Did you know...Major Donald " DuckyBonespurs" Trump flew 100 combat missions in Stormy Daniels?
Great videos - but the first 10 minutes can't help me think we're repeating the same mistakes with not hitting Russian air/anti air assets in Russia and making the same damn mistakes asking Ukraine to fight with one arm tied behind their back. We got North Korean/Iranian missiles being fired into Ukraine... So why can't Ukraine do the same thing? The line has already been crossed.