It's also not unheard of to meter traffic signals but not regular street lights. As @chris76-01 stated, it varies. For example, my city meters neither.
For GDOT (where I work), our signal are all metered. Meter-base assembly is a standard item on signal plans. You can usually see them at our intersections in Georgia on the same corner as the cabinet. Even our lighting systems are metered (and separately so from the run-of-the-mill street lights). However, THOSE are paid by the county/city/town, not us directly, through a lighting and maintenance agreement which we execute during the design of the project (I've been a part of several of these, mainly for roundabouts). In fact, refusal by a county/town to pay for lighting at a roundabout is enough to kill a roundabout project, even one that I spend YEARS designing, only to have to install an arguably more dangerous signal.
To do the work of a technician (the guys installing the equipment, repairing it, and inputting the timing plans), you only need some vocational school (although even that is typically negotiable, given the right economy). Eventually those guys get an IMSA certification after working under a supervisor for long enough. To be able to design a signal plan with its hardware and intersection layout, you need, minimum, an associate's degree in engineering technology specializing in CADD with some transportation engineering. To be able to decide how the traffic signal should operate or even whether one should be installed over, say, a roundabout, you need a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering, preferably with an emphasis in Transportation, typically from an ABET-accredited university (if you want to do it in the USA). In order to stamp and seal the other guys' drawings, you need a P.E. license (B.S.C.E. + FE Exam + 4 years of supervised practice + PE Exam).
Interesting, here in the UK streetlighting and traffic signals (and telecom/cable co infrastructure) is typically unmetered, the authority (city or county council) just pays a flat rate to the power company as the draw is pretty constant and not worth the extra effort of metering
@@Trafficlightdoctor Ah here it seems to be nation wide, at least in England/Wales. Scotland has different rules but i believe again it's usually unmetered.
HA HA... I thought I heard stripping and pole in the same sentence! Oh that kind of channel! 😜😁 Keep up the good work sir. Have you thought about a head band or chest band for your camera, it will free up your hands and help a bit with the movement of the camera as well. 🤠👍
Whoever owns the right of way so the state, city, or county! It’s ruthless brother yes a power company will come pull their meters and have the intersection go dark and yes some city fall behind at times!
@@Trafficlightdoctor kinda crazy in the UK there are no meters for this equipment, they just 'assume' a power consumption rate and charge the city/county council the cost every year.
@@chris76-01 Unless there was an actual need to replace everything... Seems like the tax payors who are paying for it are getting a bad deal. Which was the reason for my original question.
@TheChipmunk2008 Interesting, most all commercial/industrial lighting here in the US run on 277v. I'd figure they do the same with street lights especially high mast illumination due to the long run of the wire.
@@garcjr Oh sorry i thought you meant traffic lights, yes all our street lighting is 240v Usually spurred straight off the street main with a 16A HRC fuse in the base of the column. and individual photocell control. In scotland they do it differently and have a central control cabinet with a photocell feeding to a bank of contactors and breakers feeding individual steet circuits with maybe upto 20 columns on each. In either case these days the photocell may be substituted with a radio receiver (usually cellular) allowing central control, and dimming after a certain time of night
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It looks like there's a horizontal hairline crack in the pole, where the pedestrian crossing button was mounted.
Never got a truly good look but after closer inspection it looks like a layout mark that survived the life of the button.
Can’t believe you guys actually meter street furniture. In the uk the electric company just bills the council a fixed price
There are some places that use meters and some that don't. It just depends on the local jurisdiction.
It's also not unheard of to meter traffic signals but not regular street lights. As @chris76-01 stated, it varies. For example, my city meters neither.
For GDOT (where I work), our signal are all metered. Meter-base assembly is a standard item on signal plans. You can usually see them at our intersections in Georgia on the same corner as the cabinet. Even our lighting systems are metered (and separately so from the run-of-the-mill street lights). However, THOSE are paid by the county/city/town, not us directly, through a lighting and maintenance agreement which we execute during the design of the project (I've been a part of several of these, mainly for roundabouts). In fact, refusal by a county/town to pay for lighting at a roundabout is enough to kill a roundabout project, even one that I spend YEARS designing, only to have to install an arguably more dangerous signal.
I hope the utility shut the power off before tearing that down... 🙀
How hot does the inside of the traffic cabinet get in the summer? Does the equipment need vent fans?
Only in areas with an average temp of 80 degrees farinhight or higher
Super hot in Florida.
You can cook some eggs while you work 😂
Why didn’t you loosen the hose clamp instead of cutting it? It’s totally reusable.
I hate seeing usable things go to waste but that's standard practice for most of today's construction people.
So what kind of degrees do you need to get into working on traffic lights. Also how do you get into that job
To do the work of a technician (the guys installing the equipment, repairing it, and inputting the timing plans), you only need some vocational school (although even that is typically negotiable, given the right economy). Eventually those guys get an IMSA certification after working under a supervisor for long enough. To be able to design a signal plan with its hardware and intersection layout, you need, minimum, an associate's degree in engineering technology specializing in CADD with some transportation engineering. To be able to decide how the traffic signal should operate or even whether one should be installed over, say, a roundabout, you need a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering, preferably with an emphasis in Transportation, typically from an ABET-accredited university (if you want to do it in the USA). In order to stamp and seal the other guys' drawings, you need a P.E. license (B.S.C.E. + FE Exam + 4 years of supervised practice + PE Exam).
Interesting, here in the UK streetlighting and traffic signals (and telecom/cable co infrastructure) is typically unmetered, the authority (city or county council) just pays a flat rate to the power company as the draw is pretty constant and not worth the extra effort of metering
That’s common here aswell it just depends on the power company and city agreements!
@@Trafficlightdoctor Ah here it seems to be nation wide, at least in England/Wales. Scotland has different rules but i believe again it's usually unmetered.
How do you confirm its de-energized?
Finger! LOL!
HA HA... I thought I heard stripping and pole in the same sentence! Oh that kind of channel! 😜😁 Keep up the good work sir. Have you thought about a head band or chest band for your camera, it will free up your hands and help a bit with the movement of the camera as well. 🤠👍
Not a fan of service entrance equipment on the galvanized poles. (Also not a fan of wire-spans)
who pays for power and what happens if the bill hasn't been paid lol
Whoever owns the right of way so the state, city, or county! It’s ruthless brother yes a power company will come pull their meters and have the intersection go dark and yes some city fall behind at times!
@@Trafficlightdoctor kinda crazy in the UK there are no meters for this equipment, they just 'assume' a power consumption rate and charge the city/county council the cost every year.
@@tomsixsix Same for Norway. Goes for street lighting too, they just estimate the consumption and bill from there.
A question if I may ask..... Why couldn't they just replace the meter rather than running all new wiring, breakers, etc.? Thanks.
I would think for warranty purposes and for longevity. :)
@@axelrod21 Yes that is true, but a meter just plugs in. In this case there is the huge cost of the electrical work to install all new power.
Maybe the service (how much power it can handle) needed upgraded.
Because that's how construction is done now.
Anytime something changes, everything has to be replaced and new stuff installed.
@@chris76-01 Unless there was an actual need to replace everything... Seems like the tax payors who are paying for it are getting a bad deal. Which was the reason for my original question.
All this time I thought traffic signals ran on 277. I figured the controllers would be in 120 or 24 but all the lights on 277.
in the UK the traffic signals are typically extra low voltage for safety in case a pole gets hit
@TheChipmunk2008 Interesting, most all commercial/industrial lighting here in the US run on 277v.
I'd figure they do the same with street lights especially high mast illumination due to the long run of the wire.
@@garcjr Oh sorry i thought you meant traffic lights, yes all our street lighting is 240v
Usually spurred straight off the street main with a 16A HRC fuse in the base of the column. and individual photocell control. In scotland they do it differently and have a central control cabinet with a photocell feeding to a bank of contactors and breakers feeding individual steet circuits with maybe upto 20 columns on each.
In either case these days the photocell may be substituted with a radio receiver (usually cellular) allowing central control, and dimming after a certain time of night
Can you say your first name? Example: "Im Steve and welcome to the exiting world of traffic lights."?
Cool light power feed box and meter removal traffic light doctor
I thought that was a flux capacitor in the thumbnail 😅
Did he say nipples?
No, he said _nipple._
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