i dont know if hospitals and psych wards treat patients the same, but when i was in a psych ward they let me have a pencil when i was alone in my room, so maybe it just depends on where you are? or maybe kates recovering so fast once she got out of a space full of constant negativity that they trust her with a pen
People are making me very scared about the ending to this episode, I think have seen at least 5 people say that they cried and almost throw up. Getting more nervous with each part you guys release
Chell REDACTED That ending was not cool xD it was sad as well when um SPOILER ALERT Mr Jefferson or should i say Mr Messed Up shot Chloe I hope we can some how get her alive :( oh yea I KNEW THAT CREEP MR JEFFERSON WAS BEHIND ALL OF THIS & HE WAS WORKING WITH NATHAN! I hope Maxine gets out of the dark room or someone saves her
I've never really felt that the thing about bullies having low self esteem is true. I never made fun of people in grade school when I was feeling crappy. It was always at my highest points that I did, when I was feeling most confident and together. Most of the bullies I've known have been some of the most confident people I've met. I think there are a number of reasons they do it, and low self esteem is probably one of them but I don't think it's as common as people believe. More often I think it's because they believe it's genuinely funny, or they genuinely think badly about the person they're targeting, or they do it just to get laughs. It's of course not the fault of the target still, but I don't believe as much empathy should be afforded bullies as people think.
I feel it's true also in 6th grade this one kid bullied me just cuz I had friends and I had people who cared about be but mostly it was cuz I hate being around him and I think he knew but that was because he bullied me in 5th grade and the adults forced us to hang out together and they didn't actually fix our problem and thanks to him my whole middle school experience went terrible and wanna know the worst part I felt like stabbing myself with a knife but everyone still believed the rumors of a person everyone said he was terrible person literally people called him a demon for how bad he is all I have to say is that bullies happen also for the reason of stupid people like the one at my school who would rather believe someone who is called a dick and demon than a guy who u don't know and never talked to sometimes bullies just happen but everyone has to put a effort everyone has to stop them together and sorry if it sounded like I'm just talking to much about my problem
Viridiant I think another motivator for bullying is the feel of empowerment. Someone can make himself feel better by making someone else feel lesser, being able to be "more powerful" than the person his bullying. I guess this could tie in with the bully being insecure and the bullying being his way to boost his confidence. On the other hand a confident person might use bullying as a show of power to earn respect from his peers. In a way the bullying is the persons (unhealthy/bad) solution to make himself feel confident about himself. In that sense the person is confident while he is bullying but if he is confronted his insecurity might show up. People who bully tend to target people they see as weak or insecure and who offer the least resistance to bullying. In other words they prefer easy targets. They ussually don't need much of a reason for bullying and it can be pretty much anything from ethnicity to wearing glasses or just having a big nose. For that reason it ussually doesn't matter who they bully as long as hey can feel empowered by making someone else feel weak. They don't necessarily hate the person but once they have started bullying someone it gets easier to just keep bullying the same person. The fault is never in the one being bullied because someone being unable to defend oneself does never justify bullying. The fault is always in the one bullying even if he is doing it to make himself confident. It just means that the person needs better ways to deal with his confidence issues.
You know people make excuses? I watched in secondary school how teachers applauded a girl for 'overcoming' bad behaviour to pass exams. She's bullied girls from a young age to that very day. Makes me sick. No wonder so many kids don't report things. If they're going to be celebrated what's the point? So many say that it toughens you up. No. It ruins many lives. Kids should be taught to fight back IMO. Defend themselves from these people. So many excuses made for bullies and all victims are told is ignore! What about if they try beating you to a pulp and you're hospitalized. Bullying is so serious. If it was up to me. I would ban these kids from education until an age where they're ready to respect all people and the reason why they come to school. To get an education and make friends with nice people. If this happened immediately for even first time bullies you'd see how much change the parents of bullies would make. Its gone so far and is allowed to happen. Makes me angry when i see it
Viridiant THIS! SO MANY TIMES! I've been bullied, throughout middle school, and a bit during my freshmen year. It was terrible, and it was one of the reasons why I fell so deep into depression. I do NOT in any way, feel sympathy for people who bully others because of THEIR own "insecurities" or "issues". They don't understand what I've gone through, and how painful it is. Even to this day, when I think about it, I can't stop myself from crying. Bullies that I've encountered were ALWAYS the "confident" ones. They choose out the "weaker" people, people that can't defend themselves or talk back to prey on. I feel like I've been broken down so many times, that I can't live a normal life anymore. I feel like when people say that "bullies are the way they are because they're insecure" are giving them a "pass". It's like they're saying, "It's not their fault for being bullies, it's because they have self-esteem issues".
Aeris Jise I agree with u I hate it when people say "they have gone through things to" and I'm like what if there just naturally a bad person? I was bullied by someone who made People hate him and I had to have a meeting with his parents who seemed really nice people sometimes can't understand that not everyone has a reason for being the way they are some r just like that and I feel u I fell into deep depression too and I get how u feel I can't deal with how I've felt last year(my 6th grade year)and its eating at me everyday
Thank you for continuing to call out David's bad behavior and condemn abuse! Even if he has good intentions and the game apologizes for him, I think it's important to talk about how intentions don't excuse abuse because people in real life will use those arguments to convince their partner that they aren't abusive/that what they're doing is okay when it isn't.
omg, I started crying as soon as I saw Kate again. love you guys, btw. this is the first episode I specifically watched your playthrough, because up until now I've been able to afford to buy the episodes and play them myself. I like your thoroughness and find your commentary insightful, I really appreciate this channel.
Kate is so freaking precious. ♥ She actually really reminds me of someone in my personal life, whom I like referring to as both my twin and my platonic soulmate. Every time I see how precious Kate is in the game, I get reminded of this person again, which is why I'm hurt every time someone fails to save her, and am relieved to the point of tears whenever she's saved. She also draws, among always learning other artistic things, and it's so relaxing to me to just sit in a room with her while she's working. So I love Max's interactions with Kate because of how personal they feel to me and how precious Kate is.
Mari and Stacy, your commentaries on your lets plays are my favorite thing about watching you guys. It's great watching people play a game and discuss thing and add detail to it rather than just playing it through for completion sake. Keep doing your thing! (Also I was seriously almost gonna address you two as "Max and Chloe" omg)
I like how Dontnod talk about the reasoning behind why some people might bully others. It's like the old saying, "It's not the HOW that you must master. It's the WHY!"
I work in a psych hospital with children and adolescents and we allow them to have pencils and markers, the spiral notebook we wouldn't allow or the specific kind of pencil Kate has with the metal and eraser on it, we usually hand out golf pencils or colored pencils.
I just want to let you guys know that I REALLY appreciate all of your Let's Plays and videos. I never really watched any Let's Plays before, even though there were a lot of games I was dying to see and couldn't play for various reasons but your videos kinda gave me hope again. It just makes me really happy to see people with views similar(pretty much the same from what I've heard) to mine that I can watch without having to worry about "Am I supporting a terrible person?". ANYWAYS. You guys are amazing, I love your commentary, your stories and your insights. Keep rocking on!
honestly, hearing you guys talk about bullying made me feel like I was back at my therapists office (shes amazing by the way, changed my life) and it took a while for me to understand how someone could do something like that until I heard what she said. just thought I'd add that in so, uh, yeah. Thanks for making such amazing content :3
I for one can say I totally appreciate the 2 of you and your commentary on these very real situations in this game, I'm glad you guys take the time to really express your feelings and help people understand why you 2 are making certain decisions. Absolutely the best youtube gaming channel. Also love your theories Mari!
So, it just dawned on me how significant your killing Chloe could've been. If Chloe's death is indeed somehow related to averting the impending disaster, then perhaps the alternate timeline was somehow cured.
I played the episode myself... and I was dying. Seriously, how can a video game make me cry so hard T^T Can't wait to see your reaction to the ending of the episode.
Ikr I was like omg, for the first thing,how dare that person do that, for the second thing, and the last whaaa! That was a good twist ending but I can't wait to see what official happened
Yay! Next part is out. Thanks Geek Remix, I hope you upload these quicker (Not attempting to rush you or anything.) as the episode isn't released here and I can't wait lol. (By the way, thank you both so much for uploading this and continuing with the awesome videos!)
Dang, I just looked up and you guys are already on part 5?! You guys work hella fast! Kudos! I'm gonna play through the episode before I watch your LP but I can't wait (for either!)
Sorry for all the comments, can't edit and add stuff to earlier ones on mobile. I never liked the phone call part in ep 2 but not because I thought Chloe was psychic, just because I would find her response rude and self-centred in any situation. If I'm with my friend and their phone goes off of course I won't get mad at them for answering, the fuck?? I have no right to assume the contents of that call are less important than whatever I'm doing in that moment unless my situation is like SUPER urgent (which in this case it wasn't, Chloe just wanted to leave the diner and go mess around in the junkyard, not exactly an emergency)
I'm laughing because as soon as I heard them talking about "Solace" I totally thought they were talking about me for a moment because I have the same name, but of course I knew it wasn't me since I have never met you two. Hot dog forshadowing definitely made me laugh!
David's apology seems pretty genuine and he actually admits some responsibility for his action. The letters my Dad wrote were always full of excuses like "I didn't know what I was doing was wrong" and "I never thought what I did would hurt you."
I noticed something during this episode. Max is sort of a chameleon. She says the right thing to whatever person she is talking to. She may not exactly be a great person, but she knows how to make others happy with her words. She does this with Chloe and with Kate. I noticed it because her conversation with Kate in the hospital just went so smoothly, and that was mostly because of how nice and sweet Max was being to her. Obviously you kind of want to take it slowly with someone in such a fragile state of mind like Kate anyways, but it just seemed...too perfect. I can see why people ship two people together, especially in this game. Max says the right thing to someone and that grants them a positive response, thus reflecting a "cute" friendship - almost more than platonic. I think I noticed this more so because I catch myself being the same way. I want to be a good person, a good friend, so I tend to stick with positive statements, compliments, things to keep the light of a conversation. I also find myself to be a tad boring because of this - no real personality, someone with no real friction in a friendship to keep it fun and entertaining. Although I may be purely projecting my view of myself onto Max, but I think I may be speaking the truth at least just a little. Also, side note. I find it somewhat pathetic for people to write on cards "Please call me if you need anything," to someone who attempted suicide. They are clearly not great at reaching out, and can even be feeling burdensome to others if they try to reach out. I think it just makes the person feel better if they say that they are emotionally available, instead of actually being there - they feel like they tried at least by writing that in a card. I do understand it does feel like you are walking on eggshells, so to speak, when you are talking to someone who went through an actual attempt at killing themselves, that it might be uncomfortable for you to try to be there for them. I just wish people knew that sometimes people need to see that sometimes it may be hard to be there, but it's not necessarily for your own good - it's for someone else to see that they are supported and cared for. I'm so sorry to rant. I just wanted to post a comment on one of these videos, because this game surely makes me think. Thanks for anyone who took the time to read this.
I watched swingpoynt play this on his live stream last night and I'm going to warn you now. This episode is gonna make you cry and say wtf! I'm not gonna spoil anything but just be aware that shits gonna go down and make you rethink your choices.
Lol yea it takes long cause of searching for clues...I was playing from 12am to 2am just cause I was searching for clues and items...plus kept messing up on some stuff lol. Plus I enjoy listening to you both, funny and awesome =).
So if Stacy was Chloe... She'd be hot for a teacher. And Mari would be Max and then after they solve the case, and Mr. Jefferson dies or whatever, they both get into gaming and soon they have a UA-cam channel named Geek Rewind! Ok I think I went a little overboard with this theory XD
I'm so glad DONTNOD added this in, due to how much fans loved Kate and wanted to see more of her after Ep2! Also, when I think of Ashly Burch's amazing voice acting in this game I usually think of a certain part later in this episode, but on rewatching she's actually incredible through the entire episode. There is so much going on, and so many little nuances with Chloe's reactions that she gets just right! )tw: suicide attempt) I was also really surprised Kate's parents didn't come quicker (maybe just didn't want to do the animation, VO, etc to put them in the scene?). Many years ago, a friend who lived in another state attempted suicide, and as soon as I heard I booked it over there! Sure I got a hefty speeding ticket, which I couldn't pay, leading to a suspended license... but I regret nothing-- when someone you love is in hospital for that, you get there quick! (drive safe though ok? safer than me.) Even if it feels unrealistic at points, I love this part because I *wish* myself and others had so much support after attempts and idk, it makes me feel a little better to imagine a world where everyone would get the support they need in a crisis.
I feel like I relate to kate very well. I mean, I'm not suicidal or anything, but in every other way, she's practicaly me. She's a christian (different kind, but still), she has a sister, she's totally naive, and she's forgiving. I like to think that if I were ever bullied I would be tough, but to be honest, I would probably react exactly the same in that situation. She isn't a nerd though.
26:48 "be seeing you." That might be a reference to The Prisoner. Back in the village practically all of the prisoners used to say "be seeing you" (in parting) to the point where Number 6 found it infuriating. Later on he began to subvert it if he wanted to sarcastically insult the various authority figures who tried to control him.
the shippings are going crazy all around i love it so amusing, nice that chloe admitted she was wrong i wonder what she says if you don't listen to the call loving how much game Mr. Jefferson has even chloe can't resist lol
I know your pain, Stacy. It's a joke with some of my friends that me liking a character is a kiss of death. I once went through 4 "favorites" in one movie, as each one died off in turn.
"Hold hand's" - Stacy 2015 Also I just wanna ask did anyone notice how much it looked like MOMAXO was holding Kate's chest at 1250 which makes me think more and more that this episode is the most shipping friendly of any episodes
21:00 rewatching for the 100th time and I wonder if the hotdog art that geek remix believed to be foreshadowing was actually foreshadowing for LiS2 and Daniel who became the second character in the LiS series to have powers
Stacy pls, Solas? Solas is only interesting when you're an elf so he kind of like..reciprocates your flirting. In that subtle way that makes you go "whoaaa, hey now. What up?"
Kate probably had a special pencil in the hospital room with softer graphite which makes it harder to hurt yourself. That's what I used when I went to the mental hospital
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but if you looked at the padlock in the last episode when trying to hack David's laptop, then the code will be in your journal. That's something I always try to remember when playing these episodes. Every piece of paper Max looks at is recorded in the journal somewhere. :D
0:25 is Hey, David, whatcha hidin'? A reference to Hey, Ash, Whatcha Playin'? Ashley from HAWP is the person who voice acts Chloe, so it would make sense.
the pencil thing does make sense, at least to me. when i was in a mental hospital, they let us have pencils and stuff to write and draw. thats pretty much how it went down!!
I can only be made happy if Samuel, David or Mrs. Grant beat 'the bastard' down... I thought I could trust him! Even if the event doesn't happen due to rewinds.
I was a little proud of Chloe for admitting she was wrong getting angry about Max accepting Kate's call.
HonorThyGamer I definitely was too. I have a lot more respect for Chloe's character now.
"I'll be Max's date"
SCREECHING INTENSIFIES
I think the "Hey David, whatca hidin?" thing was a reference to Chloe's voice actress, Ashly Burch's old UA-cam show "Hey Ash, Whatcha playin?"
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
That's what I thought too!
i dont know if hospitals and psych wards treat patients the same, but when i was in a psych ward they let me have a pencil when i was alone in my room, so maybe it just depends on where you are? or maybe kates recovering so fast once she got out of a space full of constant negativity that they trust her with a pen
People are making me very scared about the ending to this episode, I think have seen at least 5 people say that they cried and almost throw up. Getting more nervous with each part you guys release
STEVE0dale
It's not so bad.
Though this time they really made me wonder about how they will fix it. Or will they ever.
Warren Graham hey man I didn't ask for spoilers
STEVE0dale ill tell you one thing. not nathan and i cried so much
Tara Doe I can't make heads or tails of that, so I will wait patiently for Mari to upload the next part so I'll understand
STEVE0dale and rachel something will happen
Hotdog foreshadowing X'D
hotdog confirmed
Beware the allmighty Hotdog!!
It shows up several times. It definately means something. but what? xD
Gummy Ballsenskin Maybe.....maybe...the bun represents...the flow...of time and the....the hotdog...represents max.
MrLondonuts You're a genius! Awesome theory!
This episode had me sobbing.. I have never cried over a video game until now! WHAT THE HELL
Same here! I regret watching a stream of it.
I was sobbing in the part with Rachel but at the very end I was too shocked to do anything
And I've never got that much excitement since March xd
Chell REDACTED That ending was not cool xD it was sad as well when um SPOILER ALERT
Mr Jefferson or should i say Mr Messed Up shot Chloe I hope we can some how get her alive :( oh yea I KNEW THAT CREEP MR JEFFERSON WAS BEHIND ALL OF THIS & HE WAS WORKING WITH NATHAN!
I hope Maxine gets out of the dark room or someone saves her
TWNPKS is Chloe's truck's license plate... does he have a GPS on her holy shit
The code to the padlock was probably 7171, once showed a padlock with that code.
I've never really felt that the thing about bullies having low self esteem is true. I never made fun of people in grade school when I was feeling crappy. It was always at my highest points that I did, when I was feeling most confident and together. Most of the bullies I've known have been some of the most confident people I've met.
I think there are a number of reasons they do it, and low self esteem is probably one of them but I don't think it's as common as people believe. More often I think it's because they believe it's genuinely funny, or they genuinely think badly about the person they're targeting, or they do it just to get laughs.
It's of course not the fault of the target still, but I don't believe as much empathy should be afforded bullies as people think.
I feel it's true also in 6th grade this one kid bullied me just cuz I had friends and I had people who cared about be but mostly it was cuz I hate being around him and I think he knew but that was because he bullied me in 5th grade and the adults forced us to hang out together and they didn't actually fix our problem and thanks to him my whole middle school experience went terrible and wanna know the worst part I felt like stabbing myself with a knife but everyone still believed the rumors of a person everyone said he was terrible person literally people called him a demon for how bad he is all I have to say is that bullies happen also for the reason of stupid people like the one at my school who would rather believe someone who is called a dick and demon than a guy who u don't know and never talked to sometimes bullies just happen but everyone has to put a effort everyone has to stop them together and sorry if it sounded like I'm just talking to much about my problem
Viridiant I think another motivator for bullying is the feel of empowerment. Someone can make himself feel better by making someone else feel lesser, being able to be "more powerful" than the person his bullying. I guess this could tie in with the bully being insecure and the bullying being his way to boost his confidence. On the other hand a confident person might use bullying as a show of power to earn respect from his peers. In a way the bullying is the persons (unhealthy/bad) solution to make himself feel confident about himself. In that sense the person is confident while he is bullying but if he is confronted his insecurity might show up.
People who bully tend to target people they see as weak or insecure and who offer the least resistance to bullying. In other words they prefer easy targets. They ussually don't need much of a reason for bullying and it can be pretty much anything from ethnicity to wearing glasses or just having a big nose. For that reason it ussually doesn't matter who they bully as long as hey can feel empowered by making someone else feel weak. They don't necessarily hate the person but once they have started bullying someone it gets easier to just keep bullying the same person.
The fault is never in the one being bullied because someone being unable to defend oneself does never justify bullying. The fault is always in the one bullying even if he is doing it to make himself confident. It just means that the person needs better ways to deal with his confidence issues.
You know people make excuses? I watched in secondary school how teachers applauded a girl for 'overcoming' bad behaviour to pass exams. She's bullied girls from a young age to that very day. Makes me sick. No wonder so many kids don't report things. If they're going to be celebrated what's the point?
So many say that it toughens you up. No. It ruins many lives. Kids should be taught to fight back IMO. Defend themselves from these people. So many excuses made for bullies and all victims are told is ignore! What about if they try beating you to a pulp and you're hospitalized. Bullying is so serious.
If it was up to me. I would ban these kids from education until an age where they're ready to respect all people and the reason why they come to school. To get an education and make friends with nice people. If this happened immediately for even first time bullies you'd see how much change the parents of bullies would make. Its gone so far and is allowed to happen. Makes me angry when i see it
Viridiant THIS! SO MANY TIMES! I've been bullied, throughout middle school, and a bit during my freshmen year. It was terrible, and it was one of the reasons why I fell so deep into depression. I do NOT in any way, feel sympathy for people who bully others because of THEIR own "insecurities" or "issues". They don't understand what I've gone through, and how painful it is. Even to this day, when I think about it, I can't stop myself from crying. Bullies that I've encountered were ALWAYS the "confident" ones. They choose out the "weaker" people, people that can't defend themselves or talk back to prey on.
I feel like I've been broken down so many times, that I can't live a normal life anymore. I feel like when people say that "bullies are the way they are because they're insecure" are giving them a "pass". It's like they're saying, "It's not their fault for being bullies, it's because they have self-esteem issues".
Aeris Jise I agree with u I hate it when people say "they have gone through things to" and I'm like what if there just naturally a bad person? I was bullied by someone who made People hate him and I had to have a meeting with his parents who seemed really nice people sometimes can't understand that not everyone has a reason for being the way they are some r just like that and I feel u I fell into deep depression too and I get how u feel I can't deal with how I've felt last year(my 6th grade year)and its eating at me everyday
Thank you for continuing to call out David's bad behavior and condemn abuse! Even if he has good intentions and the game apologizes for him, I think it's important to talk about how intentions don't excuse abuse because people in real life will use those arguments to convince their partner that they aren't abusive/that what they're doing is okay when it isn't.
omg, I started crying as soon as I saw Kate again. love you guys, btw. this is the first episode I specifically watched your playthrough, because up until now I've been able to afford to buy the episodes and play them myself. I like your thoroughness and find your commentary insightful, I really appreciate this channel.
Every time I watch an episode of this, I learn something new. How the hell do you have relevant knowledge for so many things?
Yet again, someone dies or almost dies each episode... *wink wink...
Simple. Just google it.
I'm so glad Kate is getting better ^^
SomeCallme SonGoku In my play-through I didn't save her, so I didn't get a hospital scene! :(
Connor Macfarlane Do you get an alternate scene instead? Or just nothing? I was really curious about this!
germankiwigal Nothing, it goes straight to the next scene.
Connor Macfarlane Thank god there wasn't a morgue scene.
BloodCroft I'm kind of surprised they didn't do a morgue scene or a funeral in this dark episode.
at this point im going to cry happy tears for how fast those videos are uploaded
thank you so much
the 1 thing that made me cringe at Kates hospital room: SHE WAS ON A FLOOR HIGHER THEN THE GROUND WITH A WINDOW OPEN MIGHT I ADD!!!
Catoverlord37 sorry it wasn't open BUT STILL A HUMAN SIZED WINDOW
I appreciate all of you guy's commentary and how thoroughly you've looked through everything!
I'm so happy that we got to visit Kate. ^3^ She's such a sweetie-pie.
JackieGoOutside
JackieGoOutside In my game I couldn't save her, and I tried to rewind too late. I WAS SO DEVASTATED!!!
she's my favorite character, she's so adorable
Kate is so freaking precious. ♥
She actually really reminds me of someone in my personal life, whom I like referring to as both my twin and my platonic soulmate. Every time I see how precious Kate is in the game, I get reminded of this person again, which is why I'm hurt every time someone fails to save her, and am relieved to the point of tears whenever she's saved.
She also draws, among always learning other artistic things, and it's so relaxing to me to just sit in a room with her while she's working. So I love Max's interactions with Kate because of how personal they feel to me and how precious Kate is.
Mari and Stacy, your commentaries on your lets plays are my favorite thing about watching you guys. It's great watching people play a game and discuss thing and add detail to it rather than just playing it through for completion sake. Keep doing your thing! (Also I was seriously almost gonna address you two as "Max and Chloe" omg)
I like how Dontnod talk about the reasoning behind why some people might bully others. It's like the old saying, "It's not the HOW that you must master. It's the WHY!"
I work in a psych hospital with children and adolescents and we allow them to have pencils and markers, the spiral notebook we wouldn't allow or the specific kind of pencil Kate has with the metal and eraser on it, we usually hand out golf pencils or colored pencils.
i literally just listen to these videos because of the inspirational and deep discussions/comments
You guys rock for tackling real life problems and breaking them down in a video game!
I just want to let you guys know that I REALLY appreciate all of your Let's Plays and videos. I never really watched any Let's Plays before, even though there were a lot of games I was dying to see and couldn't play for various reasons but your videos kinda gave me hope again. It just makes me really happy to see people with views similar(pretty much the same from what I've heard) to mine that I can watch without having to worry about "Am I supporting a terrible person?".
ANYWAYS. You guys are amazing, I love your commentary, your stories and your insights. Keep rocking on!
honestly, hearing you guys talk about bullying made me feel like I was back at my therapists office (shes amazing by the way, changed my life) and it took a while for me to understand how someone could do something like that until I heard what she said. just thought I'd add that in so, uh, yeah. Thanks for making such amazing content :3
Just dropping in to say I love your (Mari and Stacy's) convo's while playing
I for one can say I totally appreciate the 2 of you and your commentary on these very real situations in this game, I'm glad you guys take the time to really express your feelings and help people understand why you 2 are making certain decisions. Absolutely the best youtube gaming channel. Also love your theories Mari!
I appreciate the commentary, well, I can only speak for myself. Always a pleasure watching your videos.
"My favourite home" is weird phrasing, is that just me?
fizzycolalizzie My head is my favourite head :)
Yeah like he has another home?
+fizzycolalizzie nah its just the crappy dontnod writing.
You have passed so much wisdom from your lips to my mind. Thank you!
All the characters I like get doomed as well idk why they must hate me 😂
Hey just playing this episode made me shaded tears, I love how Mari and Stacy commenting on the game
So, it just dawned on me how significant your killing Chloe could've been. If Chloe's death is indeed somehow related to averting the impending disaster, then perhaps the alternate timeline was somehow cured.
oh Maker, that moment when you started to talk about Solas i was like i can't breath i'm dying from laughing. thats exactly what happend to me xD
Some people complete it within 60? + minutes (probably 80) and they never pay attention to all the details like you guys do, thank you! ♥♥
I've learned so much from these two girls.
I played the episode myself... and I was dying. Seriously, how can a video game make me cry so hard T^T
Can't wait to see your reaction to the ending of the episode.
Prepare for quite the ending, guys.
It is a tearjerker for me XD
Ikr I was like omg, for the first thing,how dare that person do that, for the second thing, and the last whaaa! That was a good twist ending but I can't wait to see what official happened
Like, HOW DARE (person) MISUSE MY TRUST!!! I want to kick (person)'s ass right now.
Thanks, Mari for that great safe-cracking tip!
You guys are seriously amazing! Thank you so much for this so quickly and keep up the awesome work!
I'm so glad you're uploading this bc i can't play it atm and i really enjoy your gameplay thank you so much!
Yay! Next part is out.
Thanks Geek Remix, I hope you upload these quicker (Not attempting to rush you or anything.) as the episode isn't released here and I can't wait lol.
(By the way, thank you both so much for uploading this and continuing with the awesome videos!)
I've been waiting for an upload :) Thanks guys
Thanks for the lesson in lockpicking, always fun to learn something new
Dang, I just looked up and you guys are already on part 5?! You guys work hella fast! Kudos! I'm gonna play through the episode before I watch your LP but I can't wait (for either!)
This episode was worth the wait, can't wait for their reaction
Sorry for all the comments, can't edit and add stuff to earlier ones on mobile.
I never liked the phone call part in ep 2 but not because I thought Chloe was psychic, just because I would find her response rude and self-centred in any situation. If I'm with my friend and their phone goes off of course I won't get mad at them for answering, the fuck?? I have no right to assume the contents of that call are less important than whatever I'm doing in that moment unless my situation is like SUPER urgent (which in this case it wasn't, Chloe just wanted to leave the diner and go mess around in the junkyard, not exactly an emergency)
If she dies this scene does not exist and you go directly to the academy :(
I'm laughing because as soon as I heard them talking about "Solace" I totally thought they were talking about me for a moment because I have the same name, but of course I knew it wasn't me since I have never met you two. Hot dog forshadowing definitely made me laugh!
David's apology seems pretty genuine and he actually admits some responsibility for his action. The letters my Dad wrote were always full of excuses like "I didn't know what I was doing was wrong" and "I never thought what I did would hurt you."
I noticed something during this episode. Max is sort of a chameleon. She says the right thing to whatever person she is talking to. She may not exactly be a great person, but she knows how to make others happy with her words. She does this with Chloe and with Kate. I noticed it because her conversation with Kate in the hospital just went so smoothly, and that was mostly because of how nice and sweet Max was being to her. Obviously you kind of want to take it slowly with someone in such a fragile state of mind like Kate anyways, but it just seemed...too perfect. I can see why people ship two people together, especially in this game. Max says the right thing to someone and that grants them a positive response, thus reflecting a "cute" friendship - almost more than platonic. I think I noticed this more so because I catch myself being the same way. I want to be a good person, a good friend, so I tend to stick with positive statements, compliments, things to keep the light of a conversation. I also find myself to be a tad boring because of this - no real personality, someone with no real friction in a friendship to keep it fun and entertaining. Although I may be purely projecting my view of myself onto Max, but I think I may be speaking the truth at least just a little.
Also, side note. I find it somewhat pathetic for people to write on cards "Please call me if you need anything," to someone who attempted suicide. They are clearly not great at reaching out, and can even be feeling burdensome to others if they try to reach out. I think it just makes the person feel better if they say that they are emotionally available, instead of actually being there - they feel like they tried at least by writing that in a card. I do understand it does feel like you are walking on eggshells, so to speak, when you are talking to someone who went through an actual attempt at killing themselves, that it might be uncomfortable for you to try to be there for them. I just wish people knew that sometimes people need to see that sometimes it may be hard to be there, but it's not necessarily for your own good - it's for someone else to see that they are supported and cared for.
I'm so sorry to rant. I just wanted to post a comment on one of these videos, because this game surely makes me think. Thanks for anyone who took the time to read this.
Victoria's letter was heartfelt, I like her character more and more.
didn't say it before but the way Max leaves those XoMaXo is so freaking adorable
From my experiences, bullying comes from a dislike from the bully towards the victim, mixed along with personal (mostly temporary) issues. :P
I like the way you do your let's plays!
I watched swingpoynt play this on his live stream last night and I'm going to warn you now. This episode is gonna make you cry and say wtf! I'm not gonna spoil anything but just be aware that shits gonna go down and make you rethink your choices.
The KittenMit Its very very sad i played it & a shock at the end (not gonna contain any spoilers)
Lol yea it takes long cause of searching for clues...I was playing from 12am to 2am just cause I was searching for clues and items...plus kept messing up on some stuff lol. Plus I enjoy listening to you both, funny and awesome =).
"Hey David, whatcha hidin'?" A Hey Ash Whatcha Playin reference! :D
So if Stacy was Chloe... She'd be hot for a teacher. And Mari would be Max and then after they solve the case, and Mr. Jefferson dies or whatever, they both get into gaming and soon they have a UA-cam channel named Geek Rewind! Ok I think I went a little overboard with this theory XD
I'm so glad DONTNOD added this in, due to how much fans loved Kate and wanted to see more of her after Ep2! Also, when I think of Ashly Burch's amazing voice acting in this game I usually think of a certain part later in this episode, but on rewatching she's actually incredible through the entire episode. There is so much going on, and so many little nuances with Chloe's reactions that she gets just right!
)tw: suicide attempt) I was also really surprised Kate's parents didn't come quicker (maybe just didn't want to do the animation, VO, etc to put them in the scene?). Many years ago, a friend who lived in another state attempted suicide, and as soon as I heard I booked it over there! Sure I got a hefty speeding ticket, which I couldn't pay, leading to a suspended license... but I regret nothing-- when someone you love is in hospital for that, you get there quick! (drive safe though ok? safer than me.) Even if it feels unrealistic at points, I love this part because I *wish* myself and others had so much support after attempts and idk, it makes me feel a little better to imagine a world where everyone would get the support they need in a crisis.
I feel like I relate to kate very well. I mean, I'm not suicidal or anything, but in every other way, she's practicaly me. She's a christian (different kind, but still), she has a sister, she's totally naive, and she's forgiving. I like to think that if I were ever bullied I would be tough, but to be honest, I would probably react exactly the same in that situation. She isn't a nerd though.
You give David so much shit. Btw if you side with him this entire section is totally different and he discloses a lot more information.
Of course, I won't spoil it, but both of you, Stacy, Mari, are going to be so shocked for this episode's ending...like damn..
I can't wait for the next part!
26:48 "be seeing you." That might be a reference to The Prisoner. Back in the village practically all of the prisoners used to say "be seeing you" (in parting) to the point where Number 6 found it infuriating. Later on he began to subvert it if he wanted to sarcastically insult the various authority figures who tried to control him.
Kate is sooooo cute omg ☺️☺️☺️☺️
Bless you, Mari.
the shippings are going crazy all around i love it
so amusing, nice that chloe admitted she was wrong i wonder what she says if you don't listen to the call
loving how much game Mr. Jefferson has even chloe can't resist lol
i think the code was 7171 or 1717
+Richard Blank jep you see it before when observing the lock in a previous episode
First one pretty sure
I WAS YELLING 7171
@@ganeyjesse ME TOO! I glad I wasn't the only one who remembered.
Kate's so sweet.
I was allowed to have a pencil and paper for being hospitalized for attempted suicide. I guess different hospitals have different policies
Marci: Hold hands!
Same.
Max+Kate = otp forever
I know your pain, Stacy. It's a joke with some of my friends that me liking a character is a kiss of death. I once went through 4 "favorites" in one movie, as each one died off in turn.
"Hold hand's" - Stacy 2015
Also I just wanna ask did anyone notice how much it looked like MOMAXO was holding Kate's chest at 1250 which makes me think more and more that this episode is the most shipping friendly of any episodes
Edit: it was 1050, now ive brought shame to my fellow corgis ( prepares paddle while smiling creepily )
I can't believe this game has compelled me to google "mustard symbolism" with a straight face
Kate is so precious, oh my god
21:00 rewatching for the 100th time and I wonder if the hotdog art that geek remix believed to be foreshadowing was actually foreshadowing for LiS2 and Daniel who became the second character in the LiS series to have powers
"Hold hands" lol same, mari...same.
Hotdog toy, hotdog on alternate Max's shirt, hotdog on Kate's wall, hotdog in Kate's sketches.
David Madsen reminds me of Captain Queeg from "The Caine Muntiny"...Both had good intentions but sadly their abrasiveness alienated a lot of people
How to get the girl according to LIS: Care and be a generally good person.
#AllShipsSailing
When she said you should bring warren along too I was like ¿?RELATIONSHIP POSSIBLITIES???¿ HOW WOULD THIS WORK HMMMMN??????¿¿¿!!!!
Kate is such a sweetheart and Kate deserves love and protection
Stacy pls, Solas?
Solas is only interesting when you're an elf so he kind of like..reciprocates your flirting. In that subtle way that makes you go "whoaaa, hey now. What up?"
Kate probably had a special pencil in the hospital room with softer graphite which makes it harder to hurt yourself. That's what I used when I went to the mental hospital
Ah, Alice is my favorite name.
So beautiful a name ~
Long live that rabbit.
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but if you looked at the padlock in the last episode when trying to hack David's laptop, then the code will be in your journal. That's something I always try to remember when playing these episodes. Every piece of paper Max looks at is recorded in the journal somewhere. :D
I came to watch a Lets Play and I got life lessons from two girls instead.
0:25 is Hey, David, whatcha hidin'? A reference to Hey, Ash, Whatcha Playin'?
Ashley from HAWP is the person who voice acts Chloe, so it would make sense.
GeekRemix! Teaching kids how to crack safes! Edumactionals!
5:47 "I wonder if David is going to the party"
Foreshadowing.
oh man finally i find some channel who likes this game as much as me...
the pencil thing does make sense, at least to me. when i was in a mental hospital, they let us have pencils and stuff to write and draw. thats pretty much how it went down!!
man this game is so good, but i have to keep checking down my pants every 5 minute to see if im becoming too flamboyant :D
I like it when you talk you guys are interesting
I NEED TO SEE THEIR REACTION TO THE END. ITS SO STRESSFULL
+Photographer Kate SHHHHHHHH
Gerklin Gaming WHOOPS Forgot to make lots of lines so dont see! LEMME EDIT IT
Gerklin Gaming Done :D
that hot dog is every where its like spot the hot dog 0-o
I can only be made happy if Samuel, David or Mrs. Grant beat 'the bastard' down... I thought I could trust him! Even if the event doesn't happen due to rewinds.