A few months ago I bought a 2013 SZ diesel with 75000km for $18000. I love it. I drove to Adelaide and back, the return trip 1263 km in 12 hours 50 minutes averaging 7.2 L/100km. It was an awesome touring car. Powerful enough, smooth, comfortable, sharp enough, etc. Love it.
I think the Ford Territory with 6 cylinder petrol engine is a good and very solid vehicle and will still be going strong when all these imports are in the scrap heap.
Fun fact: the first X5 that landed in Australia was ordered by Ford Australia. The disassembled and reassembled, drove & tested it to destruction, then cut it up and assessed the way the body was designed and welded together.
Yep and that's how they got the first territory. Have both cars up on a hoist and you can actually see the similarities. Holden did the same with the E39 5 series and designed the VE off of that too.
What i love about the Ford Territory is its simple drive-train with it being RWD, and the ever reliable Barra straight six. Its virtually impossible to find this set-up in a large and affordable SUV.
I bought a 07 new always serviced on time had it for 6yrs BEST CAR EVER... I have since bought a 09 cheap from a drugo cleaned it up had it for 3yrs thus far ..... loving it.
Had 4.0 RWD example for a decade. It took the family with caravan around Aust and many other trips, towing boats etc. Did the job with a minimum of fuss.
SZ Petrol Territory, Yes, 100%. Although it does not have all the fancy features and equipment, but it is truly one of the most practical, most reliable and most fun to drive SUV. It is completely designed and manufactured in Australia and it really does suit most Aussie family's lifestyle. Fuel consumption is not too bad for such a big car too!
As a qualified mechanic i have owned and worked on a lot of cars and i can honestly say my 2014 SZ Diesel Territory is the best car i have ever owned, i bought it new and do all the work on it myself, not the easiest car to work on but take care of it and it will last you a long time.
Have you had any issues with a DSC error code - which kills power to the car - resulting in having to pull over and turn the car off to get going again?
@@tgoodman3282 No the only problem i've had was a noise in the transmission when it was new and still under warranty it turned out to be the valve body in the transmission, hasn't missed a beat since and is ten years old now.
Great video and the territory are great to drive. I have a 2007 Barra Turbo AWD. I drove it home from work today. I went the long way so I could enjoy the Barra Turbo magic. WHOOOSH.
I have the same 2012 Territory Titanium as tested here (Mine is White) and I love it. Now 11 years old with 135.000 Ks and a Barra engine under the bonnet. In all the time I have owned it I have only replaced 2 ball joints, stabilizer link rods and the head lining and that's it. I got rid of the noisy Goodyear tyres off it and replaced them with Bridgestone ecopia and it is so much quieter inside now. No road noise at all. I've kept it regularly serviced and I'm very happy with it. It drives better than a car and is very comfortable on long distance driving. There are no rattles or bangs going on inside. I don't expect it to just keep on going without some form problems in the future but if I can get another 5 years out of it I would be very happy as for me there is nothing else out there on the market that I like that could top or make me feel better driving than this Ford Territory.
We owned a 5 seat SX and 7 seat SY Territory. Fit and finish was not perfect but we looked after the cars and they looked after us. Both petrol and RWD. Great cars for families. If only our 2019 Kia Sorento was as reliable.
@@jasmineaoun2816 all I can say is ours hasn’t been. It took 11 months to diagnose correctly and fix our air conditioner and 3 months to fix a steering recall. In that time the vehicle was unsafe to drive and the battery died. Kia made us pay for the battery even though their delays caused it to die. We haven’t been impressed at all with the service we have received. We may have got a lemon but Kia haven’t helped the situation. Serviced always at the dealership and on time.
A petrol Territory is probably the most suitable car ever made for Australian conditions. A well-maintained one would be the perfect road trip car (as long as you weren’t going to go seriously off-road). Having owned Falcons before, it’s the poor quality control and rust that’ll let them down. Otherwise, great cars (leagues ahead of the Craptiva for sure). Nice to see a brief cameo of an e39 5 series too
How do you get rust in Australia? It doesn’t snow? There isn’t salt on the roads. That’s why our cars rust where I live. I mean I guess coastal cities I can see rust there and most of you live in said cities.
@@adamhayden5152 Cars will still rust without salted roads, All it takes is moisture, specially if trapped behind panels etc. The only places cars won't rust is in very dry environments like California. By the way we do get snow here in Australia.
I still miss my Territory, had it when my kids were little and it was amazing, we still talk about how much storage it had. The only thing that ever went wrong was the roof liner.
The market should not be kind to manufacturers of unreliable high maintenance diesels, it flys in the face of what they were supposed to be about, capable of long distances with normal maintenance.
I bought an SZII diesel a few years ago. I selected Diesel after owning Euro diesels (BMW and VW). The Territory was a surprise. I have a TX but the last production run included a lot of TS gear. The standout is open road cruising - nicely summed up in the video clip. The Euro’s were skittish on dirt roads and instilled zero confidence. The Territory is planted and so comfortable. Yes have seen 7’s in fuel consumption but generally about 8. Yes suspension needs to be watched.
I have a 2015 RWD petrol version that has just clocked under 90,000kms. It is a very capable vehicle. If you look after the vehicle the vehicle will look after you. I get it regularly serviced and have had no issues with it.
It’s a bloody fantastic vehicle. Currently have a sz mk2 diesel rwd @ 122k. Second owner. It still looks current, the interior is dated but not completely out of date. Some might see it as a negative, but one of the great things is it has actual buttons to operate everything, doesn’t have any automatic braking crap. It’s just an old school vehicle, and for that it’s sublime! The ride is great. It’s such a shame we lost this great vehicle.
Brilliant video! We purchased a 2013 2WD Titanium Diesel about 5 months ago. Had a bit of an expensive problem with transmission valve body and solenoids but once sorted it has been fantastic. Just came back yesterday from a mini-holiday travelling over 1200km through inland NSW and was very pleased with how well it performed!
We also have a rwd diesel titanium and it's the best car we've ever owned. 330,000kms and no issues at all. Sometimes we look at upgrading but there's really no point
Hi , have you had the auto trans serviced regularly in that 330K's ? Ours is a 2014 rwd Titanium diesel ,from new and we had premature trans problems at 80K's and was caused by contaminated trans oil(valve body issues) because Ford says transmission sealed for life! Now have trans oil change every 40K. Ford didnt want to know about this when lodged within warranty period. 6R80 transmission has plenty of complaints on the internet forums. Despite this hiccup ,the Territory is a great car to drive after 9 years of ownership. BTY, mostly country driving for us and averaging 7.6 L/100klms in diesel ,which is great for a big car . Martin @@kane9956
With the tedious/uncertain/costly nature of service/repairs if modern vehicles, more people are turning back to older and simplier cars to own and run. If you can find a reasonably well maintained Terri, they are a good solid platform. Give it a good service and perform some preventative maintenance on componentry and you'll easily get ine of these things to over 400k. Obviously, having the Barra 4.0L over 2.7TDCi is a no brainer, with basic and small preventative maintenance the Barra's will charge over 500k with ease and cheaply. Both 4sp and 6sp trans need servicing, despite the whole "sealed for life" BS. If its high milage or has towing history, service the bloody thing. Install a trans cooler if more towing planned. Now the 2009 SY2 got revised front suspension components to recify high wear characteristics from as earlier SX, SX2 and SY1 lower control and radius arm bushes and ball joints. Yes you can fit the updated SY2/SZ front end to earlier SX and SY1 models, it will require replacement of the steering knuckle/WH assembly. Shocks, springs and upper control arms are the same, I recommend the upgrade if your budget permits. And yup, the notorious rear diff bushes. 🤷 It's a $3k~ job at a shop and if they are worn bad they will not pass a rego check. The rest of the car is standard fanfare like any older or high milage car. Roof lining, shocks, a couple worn trims, fogged headlights ect. TX and TS trims in SX and SY series models owned by families will likely be flogged out shitboxes by now, so if you can find a Ghia owned and well maintained by an older couple that'd be a good place to start. Give the engine and trans a really good service, slowly knock over the suspension components and maybe prepare for diff bushes if they havent already been done. I own a '11 SY2 Limited Edition, 4.0L RWD/4sp with 345k.
I'm on my 3rd territory, lovem. Once they get to 250,000K's I moved them on. just picked up a 2014 territory in 2023 with only 80,000 K's on it. Drives beautiful and tows my camper like it isn't there.
Good video while remaining objective and actually seeing these car strengths and weaknesses As a bit of a ford fanatic and someone who owns a BA Falcon with 542,000km on it. I will let you in on a few thing Firstly the auto. The auto themselves are pretty robust. However, the biggest failure of the auto isn’t the auto themselves, but the transmission cooler that is plumed into the radiator. Ones that degrade, it mixes the transmission fluid with the coolant and no only is your transmission shot, but your radiator is as well. A simple fix, install an external transmission cooler, even if you never plan to tow. The ball joints are more of a problem on the earlier variants such as SX, SY and usually would have some squeaks and creaking coming from suspension. Usually take it to a suspension specialist and they can fix the ball joint for around $200-300 with parts. The diff bushes biggest failure is that they’re made of rubber. When the car is new they feel great and give the car such a silky smooth drive. However, as weight is placed on the bushes and rubber deteriorate by age, then the diff bushes let go and causes clunking going on at the back end. best solution, replace the bushes with polyurethanes bushes (ideally superpro) and they will last a hell of a lot longer. You can get them supply and fitted from around $700-800 Roof lining can be replaced as little as $250-300 Basic maintenance is the key for these cars and if you the oil changes regularly on this car, it will last a long time. Transmission service should be done around 50,000km as well. Not to mention these cars are some of the most easiest cars to work on. Overall if you find one that hasn’t been trashed or neglected, it a great car for the price that should serve you for a really long time. Also, if your somewhere like in Victoria where lpg is still available, they can be really cheap to run with the correct dual fuel system. They’re a great driving car
Yes! I did buy one! - just like your example, about three years ago, but in a beautiful metallic cherry red that really lifts the chrome-festooned front-end. I did my homework and arrived at the same conclusions you did and went for the simplicity and reliability of the petrol, RWD, Series One SZ. It's basically a tall Falcon, and I'm loving it. I'm getting ~12L/100kms (or 25mpg in the old money) with mixed highway and town driving, which I think is very respectable for a 2-tonne, 260-horse beast. The best I've seen on the dash was a 10.3 after lots of highway driving. A very important detail your mechanic didn't mention is that only the petrol Series One ZF runs the genuine, German-built 6HP26 ZF gearbox, as found in BMWs, Mercedes, Jags and even Maseratis, Aston Martins, Bentleys and Rolls Royce Phantoms! Ford Australia stashed their stock of these robust gearboxes for fitment to the last, high-powered Falcons when the writing was on the wall for their Australian car production, and so the final, Series Two petrol Territories were fitted with lighter, lower torque-bearing, Chinese-made ZF gearboxes. My research revealed that all SZ diesels ran American-made "ZF-like" gearboxes.
@@sle2979 Sorry mate, I don't know if the genuine German ZF (as fitted to petrol RWD SZ) has that milkshake issue. I guess it's something I should look into but I'm assuming that since that gearbox was also fitted to many Falcons, it would've been a widely reported issue and I'm just not getting a sense that it is. It certainly wouldn't hurt to get a tranny cooler fitted, especially if one was regularly towing anything heavy.
Some were exported to Thailand. Not many. I have never seen one on the road, but I've seen a few at the Ford main dealer when I take my Escape in for service. The design is good and the size is very practical. If they can stand up to Australian conditions they must be tough. Thanks for the video!
I currently own a 2005 TX model reaching 300,000ks and its still running amazingly I did have to replace the door lock actuator but that's the only real problem I've had since buying the car
I picked mine up (2011 AWD diesel) with just over 130000ks , excellent condition , full service history for under 12k , several months ago. The tail shaft bearing needed replacing almost immediately ($490) the roof lining dropped not long after we got it. We were quoted $600 to fix it but did it ourselves for a little over $200 . It had receipts for new bushes and brakes. My mechanic, who has owned several of them over the years , reckons I snagged a good one. Your advice is spot on . Get a pre purchase inspection done . Great vehicles but if in any doubt , don't!
I've owned two Terris - the first a petrol 2004 brought new, sold that after 12 months as we had 2 company cars had the TS still managed a trip to Qld with the kids, then brought a diesel Titianum version, awesome car travelled throughout Ausi, great car only had the centre bearing replaced after 8 years great long distance car drove very well.
My partner just purchased a 2012 titanium. Elderly owner now in a retirement home. The territory is really comfortable and drives really well. We have the turbo diesel and it's smooth with plenty of get up and go when needed. Nice and quiet to drive. Has 180,000km and regular services. Seems to be a nice family car. My vehicle is a Holden 1989 VN APV Group 5i with over 400,000 on it.
Bought a 2006 turbo Ghia around a year ago, brilliant aussie SUV absolutely love it. Already had bushes and ball joints done before I purchased it. Heavy on fuel but who cares, great everyday driver 👍
Had the second iterition TS with AWD. What a brilliant car that Ford Australia made. Fantastic Barra with the 6 speed auto.Did not have a single fault. Had it for the longest time of any car I owned 18 months ago looking for a SUV that would bring back that Territory feel and size and a lovely 6 cylinder, I bought a Sorento V6. It reminds me so much of the Territory. It is a travesty that Ford Australia is no longer. Both the Falcon and Territory were perfect vehicles for the huge kilometres of Australia. Loved the big Fords.
Should've just had a full video with Jim doing the what's go wrong with it. Faaar.... My dad has an original Ghia. It's now done about 250000ks. It pulls to the left, massive brake shudder, drivers seat broken, ignition sticks on... But that engine is still going strong!
the roof lining falling down in that territory just gives me nostalgia for dads old falcon. the one in that thing actually ended up getting stapled down, not a good thing for someone wanting to buy their own per se but it was nice just seeing something like that taking me back to my childhood ^_^
In 2004 I bought a TS AWD. We used to use it for travelling and used to tow a fully loaded campervan and a family of of 4. With the cruise set at 100kph it would just soak up the Ks. One of the best cars I have ever known.......looking for another one at the moment....
my parents owned a 2006 Ford Territory Ghia. car was only 3 years old when they got it and they say it was the best handling car they ever drove at that point, and had the NA barra I6 which was indestructible.. basically raised us kids (I'm coming up 19) the car was nearing 300,000kms when they sold it on 2018. car definitely tired when they sold it though. interior was extremely worn and the headliner was completely fallen, interior trim was missing/broken, paint was buggered, hood, boot was rusted. (which i have noticed is a very common thing), but it kept going and going.
We had a 2006 AWD SX. Suspension bushes, shocks, brake light switch and pinched wiring in the indicator stalk needed fixing. Brilliant car. Wish we still had it.
Had a 2016 TX SZ Mk11 Diesel ex fleet car bought at 120k. I took it to I think 170k before I traded it in. Great car. If well looked after you should be right. I did the timing belt, rear bushes apart from those big ticket items, never had any real issues. Apart from one of the rear speakers blowing. Which was good, then I could go to autobarn and upgrade em. We chucked on some Bridgestone dueler ATs and took it from Melbourne to Longreach and then down the coast back in a month, could not fault it. Just ate up the kilometres. I really regret trading that thing in. Whenever I see one now I just always just shake my head at why I got rid of it. Just a fair dinkum solid performer.
Just gone back to Territory and sold the Sportage which was going through oil. So good to be back, man this thing can haul. The kia would see a hill coming and drop 2 cogs but the Territory just laughs ... steers nicely too.
Still for me the best big suv to drive I have ever had and I have had a few different ones. Driving that car bought a smile to my face that I can not say about too many other standard sort of cars
Very Good! Just bought an SZ 2012 2.7TDCI as a work horse. Bought the diesel due to my Jaguar affection! Did SYD BNE return the day after I bought it. Performed beautifully, besides some issues I just love it.
Great video as always guys!! I was watching it going 'you know what, a territory wouldn't be a terrible thing's for about the first half. Then it was 'yeah, a lot of stuff does fail on them and generally are a really budget built thing.... BUT at least they'd be reasonably well priced to fix, still a lot of car for the money'. Then when you said one like that is around $20k I nearly threw up in my mouth!
Followed your advice bought a 2.7 V6 awd Santa Fe instead with 150,000 on the clock, best decision ever. Regularly hauling a mobility scooter full assembled inside, hasn't missed a beat thanks guys
I've had my 2011 SZ AWD from new. It's on its second gearbox (there was a recall, so make sure that's been done) & I've just replaced the head unit screen (easy to do yourself once you source the replacement screen). On the odd occasion I've had to clean the electric window points, but all in all its been the perfect family car. With the kids now gone we've just upgraded the suspension (& given it a 1.5 inch lift), put on some ATT's, diff breathers, learned how to use the transmission modes correctly ("mode 2" for tracks) & have turned it into a hardened soft roader "4WD". It owes us nothing, so why not ! It goes just about anywhere you'd ever want to in the Vic High country; just take your time !
Something similar happened with the Pathfinder, but those didn't have oil coolers. However that only happened to those with the 4.0 v6 and automatic transmission. It wasn't just the Pathfinder though, every Nissan with the 4.0 V6 and automatic transmission up till 2010 had that issue.
Bought my SZ new in 2013 to keep forever. This year it’s hit 350.000km and drives as smooth as ever. It has aged however. This year have had done: hoodlining, brake rotors, centrebearing, and about to spend $1500 on front suspension , which will make a total of $3200 spent this year , but it will see me out for another 10 years. Does that scare you? If so, get rid of your territory at about 220,000 km and leave the $ to the next owner. It’s not fancy in terms of tech, but it’s simple and does the miles with ease and I’d amazingly economical. Oh and did one door actuator. But fit and finish has been good and no rust being inland. The one in the video is a baby at 170,000. SUSPENSION is it’s nemesis because when you add 600kg to a falcon you need different suspension set up to carry it!
@@ReDriven I had forgotten that. I look forward to your next review of an Aussie car. I think this video was important in that it highlighted one of the great cars we made here that people overseas generally wouldn't have heard of.
My 320,000km SY AWD is still going great, I paid peanuts for it about 4 years ago and have put almost 100k on it since. I’ve had to spend some money on it in that time, but it was cheap enough to buy that I still feel I’ve come out on top. It’s now been handed down to my brother but I would have another one in a heartbeat, especially a petrol SZ. Yes they have issues, but they’re all well-documented and most are cheap/easy to fix.
If you look after the sy barra awd 6 speed they are bulletproof . You just have to service them . Everything wears out eventually . Im about to turbo mine . Should be fun with 600hp at all 4 wheels .
Have had many cars over the last 15 years. But found all suffered costly issues shortly after the new car warranties expired, and in the case of the 2015 Caprice V I owned. That was a lemon right from the start. Decided two years ago to buy a second hand 2014 Titanium with 70k on the clock. Best purchase I have ever made. My only regret is never buying one of these brand new when I had the chance.
I own the 07 Territory TX the biggest issue I had and what I can see in this video is the headliner sagging, its a cheap fix. Maintenance is quite expensive, I had to import suspension parts from Australia and recently installed a new starter motor. This thing is a Tank, indestructible and sounds like a beast drives really well, my third row comes accross a bit better than what I saw in this video though
The Ford Territory review! 🎉 One of best Aussie cars ever made. As my family car in a Ghia spec. It’s perfect!! That Barra is a thirsty, but hardy beast.
Great vehicle. Owned one and spent good money keeping maintenance up but it was such a good cruiser and a great drive. Actually regret selling it now. That's a very fair review
We bought a 2012 titanium diesel rwd in 2019, towed a small trailer load (we were moving house) from Melbourne to Emerald in central QLD, twice, and she never skipped a beat. Her front suspension is a bit tired nowadays, but driving 150km a day, to and from work on some of the shittest roads I've ever seen (and I've driven on Warrigal Rd) and having 280,000km on the clock, can't blame her. Biggest mechanical issue so far is a faulty fuse or relay that kept giving us a low oil pressure warning. Got a 2nd mechanic to have a look and it's sorted. Still runs smooth as silk. Trans is probably due for a service though. Starting to take too long to think about gear changes when pulling out of side streets. But still, 280,000km
Had my 09 Territory 4.0 rwd BTR, for 8 years. Original 1 owner, 150,000 ks, 5 seat, older owner, immaculate condition. It's been over half of Queensland, NSW, Vic, and I've replaced all the suspension bushings with steel sleeved nolathane, never gonna have to do them again, brakes are now bigger grooved with ceramic pads, and a snail. Total sleeper because I like not being the centre of attention. Since I've had mine, my son in law bought one a month after me, even though I had just given my daughter a Kluger, he swapped from a Commodore, friends sold their Adventura and bought one, my daughter's mate bought one. They're perfect for Aussies and Aussie families, 100% Australian, and one of the last wholly Australian designed and built cars made by Ford. My last car was a twin turbo 95 VR, another sleeper, I'm a Holden guy through and through. I also love cars of all types. I'm a petrol head, full stop. Territory's have their issues, what car doesn't. All the issues have been addressed by the performance industry in Australia, so get your advice through them. They've done the research and development.
I own 2 lol, a 2016 titanium and a 2008 ghia. BRAND NEW diff bushes, ball joints, cv joints, suspension, brand spanking new never used ghia steering wheel makes my 2008 an absolute joy to drive, I actually enjoy it more than my titanium. My dad got one brand new back in 2004 and I had so many great memories as an 18yo in it that I now love my territories. I'm a rare aussie, 2 territories and a VZ clubby. So depends if you're a Ford or Holden man, either way, I've committed blasphemy.
lol Adam looking awesome as always. Watch out for the hinges on the rear glass, they break, if often lubricated, they don’t. The roof liner is $200 fix (2018 dollars).
Too true....mine sheared off last year.... I couldnt believe it....i have 2015...AWD TS. Series 2...195k on clock ....good car, but a lot of cheap plastics and fittings.....i drive my dads AU now he's gone too .....now thats good build quality...
Bought my 2nd hand 2014 diesel over 3 years ago to replace the aging Fairmont which had served us well for over 15yrs. Both cars used for towing boats but Territory has incredible power and wipes the floor with the towing. Just had roof fixed for $400 and screen has gone which is a pain but otherwise it is a great all round vehicle. Drives beautifully.
I had 2.7 turbo diesel, a fantastic car and I had zero issues with it. Now I'm driving Ford Endura, which is great car in every way, too, but I wish that would come with more powerful engine than 2.0 Turbo Diesel (190hp/400nm)
The previous models look eerily similar to the Freestyle. The more modern ones have a front end that looks more like the previous generation Escape, but the side profile still has that Freestyle/Taurus X look.
I would buy a petrol model if given the choice. The diesel models are a mixed bag with reliability. On all models the suspension will wear prematurely. I have lost count of how many I have seen through my shop that have needed ball joints & other suspension parts at low kms. I have seen ball joints fail at as low as 30,000kms intervals quite regularly. They generally need a fair bit of maintenance just to keep them in roadworthy condition. Suspension arms & wheel bearings to name a few.
if your on an extremely tight budget and looking for a reliable family 'truckster' and want to buy the SX model? buy the BA Wagon that it replaced instead!
I have a 4l rwd 2016 last year it was made tx It's not for someone who wants a quick sports car, if you do then why are you here It's better than the kluger, maybe not the earlier models It does what it says on the tin It's probably geared more to a small family who likes to go places on the weekend, take the kids to school and then go shopping in comfort But heck I have pushed her alright, nothing breaks down yet, knock on wood, I'm up to 107k km now and she is still going very well, takes me all over the place The barra is its biggest upside, and drivability
I have a 2012 TX its the greatest car Ive ever owned, the car has now done 240k and still runs like a dream, if looked after which I have done the condition of interior and exterior just superd. Keep up the maintenance who knows how long this will go. The only thing i have done is upgrade the suspension for towing a caravan which the barra does with ease. Great Australian car
My dad had an SX Territory in South Africa with the 24v Barra. It was a bloody good car and really quick and capable. The only fly in the ointment was a lot of going problems with the front suspension - but this was down to crap dealer service and unhelpful Ford SA, apart from that it was a genuinely lovely car. The lack of all the ridiculous new ADAS and electronic tech is a good thing in my book.
We had an early production Territory and it was one of my wife's favourite cars we've owned. Good was it was a great tourer and you could pack so much stuff in it. It was also very comfortable. Downside was it was heavy on fuel and chewed up suspension parts like ball joints and bushes. However the reason we were glad to get rid of it after a few years, was the Ford dealer network. Our family have sworn off Ford for life after how we were treated by one dealer and Fords complete and total disregard for what was done to us. There just never will be another Ford in our driveway.
I had a Territory Diesel as a company car for 5 years. Apart from all faults already mentioned, the Diesels suffer badly from turbo lag. I would class it as dangerous. Once the turbo wound up it moved ok. A friend who has recently bought one fitted an iDrive which makes a huge difference and practically eliminates this.
Feel like reminiscing, I had a 2012 Sz Titanium RWD Diesel with the third row seat deleted at the factory and Taupe interior (why do all cars these days have black interior, yuck). I loved it and drove it for 10 years from new with some issues. Until a drunk driver cleaned it up while parked in the street. Issues I had were premature wear in diff bushes that needed replacing at 80k the actuators failing in the air con system that needed replacing, brake rotors and pads were replaced at 125k, Windscreen washer fluid pumps failed, Brake pedal switch failed. Drivers side electric window switches stopped working (i fixed this myself when I took it apart and found the electrical contacts had been sparking, filed the burnt stuff off the contacts and put some dielectric grease on them and better than new. Drivers power window clips broke, easily fixed. Apart from the Diff Bushes, Brakes and Aircon repairs, I was able to fix all the other items myself. The diesel was a fantastic engine with plenty of torque, but it blew a lot smoke when pushed hard. On a trip to Dubbo from Brisbane and back I averaged 6.8 l/100km fantastic economy and around town in peak hour traffic about 9.2 l/100km. I now drive a 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe Elite AWD Diesel which is a massive step up from the Territory in technology and fuel economy (same trip to Dubbo and back I achieved 4.7 l/100km). The Santa handles much better, but the Terri was quieter and a far smoother ride with more space in the second row and in the boot. I had a Territory SX Ghia AWD before the SZ and the SZ was a much better vehicle in every department. I tried buying a second hand SZ after mine was totaled but couldn't find any as good as mine at a decent price. Not a fan of the SZ series 2 infotainment system SYNC 2 I think it was called. The series 1 system was much easier to use.
In 2017 I bought an 18 month old TS spec 2015 2.7 Diesel, in part wanting to be patriotic and with a view to keeping the car for many years. Rear parking sensors failed almost immediately. While installing mud guards I was shocked by the extent of corrosion and flaking paint on the rear subframe. While the rear parking sensors were being repaired at my local Ford dealer I asked about the corrosion, when I collected the car they said 'we looked at a few other 2015 Territories and they are ALL like this, and no its not covered by warranty'. So after 4 months of ownership Ford offered peanuts against a new Everest, so I went across the road and traded it in for a new (2017) Toyota Prado for a much better deal. The financial loss over 4 months made the Territory the most expensive and disappointing car I ever owned. The Prado is the best by a county mile! My only mistake in buying Toyota was buying the extended warranty - its still under warranty, but I have never made a claim.
I've had an SY and now an SZ. The SY was the biggest piece of automobile rubbish I've ever driven. Tailgate hinges, rear tailgate garnish falling off on the freeway, suspension problems, and lately an exploding transmission. Through a long story, I've ended up with a 2014 SZ titanium which I picked up for $15k with 162k kms on it. Since getting it I've replaced the timing belt, and had an unfortunate incident with a brake caliper jamming on while driving down the freeway. Apart from that, it's just been basic maintenance for the SZ which is now sitting at 176k kms and going strong
I love my territory. My first car was an ‘07 BF XR6. I only gave it up because it was getting hard to put the kids in a car so low to the ground, and having tall kids meant they were a little squished! Once we got to 4 kids, it just wasn’t going to work anymore! So I got an ‘11 territory, and it was just like driving my original car, but with more family space. Never been stranded, and it’s been out bush! It’s capable, surprisingly (and the look on the faces of family with their great 4x4s when it came through to play, after a rainstorm, with trailer attached, was priceless!) I reckon it’s a great car, even with her little faults (yeah, like those window motors, just like the XR6 lol)
I drove one of these and it seriously raised my eyebrows. It is so nice to drive. But my wife said it looked too much like a family. I would have bought one.
I bought a 6 speed auto 2006 one for $1500 3 years ago. It was the cheapest on gumtree in Sydney at the time. It's ( still ) dead straight body wise tho at the time of purchase needed a new windscreen. The roof lining typically falls from them however thumb tacks feel very nicely being pushed through the roof lining amends that issue. It needed a full front end suspension replacement tho I felt it worthwhile paying $2800 to do that which included puting new diff seals at the front. It has the engine light coming up at the moment and I think that's due to the cracked inlet manifold gasket which most likely is causing it to throw out the canbus electric system to chaos however the car runs fine tho smells a little rich in fuel. They are an awesome car. You see lots at motor wreckers and I assume it's because of the expensive front end work that I hear they need doing ( at least in my model anyway ) tho I think it's worth the repair money.. they are not cumbersome Huge SUVs like you see Toyota, Hyundai, Audi build now, remaining I guess mid size in comparison to currently built family cars albeit A Falcon on Steroids. Just make sure you find a Honest mechanic that knows how to fault find and not some north shore mechanic wanker I will refrain from pointing out that I had try to bend me over that fault finds with his canbus computer crap !. Sorry for the horrible rant... Yes ! Buy a second hand ford territory. Find a good Honest mechanic because it may need work . Great car 💪👍
I purchased 2.7 diesel TS new in 2015 it now has 50k up, it is serviced on time and have had no mechanical issues. And that I think is the to reliability look after it and it will give you many years of trouble free motoring. It is a.brilliant car.
From experience, best bit of advice to give ,if automatic, get the transmission serviced asap. If its a 6R80 transmission and if not serviced by regular oil changing, will have solenoid/valve body issues. Trans oil will be contaminated with metal paste from inside the gearbox because Ford saved money by using sleeves instead of bearings inside the torque converter on this box. Plenty of info on this on Ford forums for 6R80 transmission which is common in many ford cars in the US . Always cheaper to change oil regularly than buy a new trans. all the best .Martin
Just got a SZ territory diesel and overall extremely good vehicle to drive for its size. Nothing wrong with it mechanically as of yet but will definitely be taking it serviced as it needs to be. One thing i did have a problem with was it’s head unit (ICC). It’s very common apparently for them to fail and it’s very annoying not see the aircon controls in the display, can’t turn off the radio (even with the car totally off) and kind of expensive to replace.
Bought a used 2012 turbo diesel with 170,000km back in 2018 and whilst it had some of the issues listed, never had anything major mechanically go wrong. It was relatively cheap to service and for a car of its size not bad on fuel. Sadly we had it stolen just before Christmas. We have decided to go for a 2016 Jaguar F-Pace with the 3 litre V6 twin turbo diesel engine. Fingers crossed we have the same luck with it like we did with our Territory
Isn't the falling roof liner a feature of the Falcons and Terris? Much like the warped front brake discs? :P Thinking of offloading my 2006 Fairmont for a Terri (cross shopping older CRV and Rav4), and your video has helped me.
A few months ago I bought a 2013 SZ diesel with 75000km for $18000. I love it. I drove to Adelaide and back, the return trip 1263 km in 12 hours 50 minutes averaging 7.2 L/100km. It was an awesome touring car. Powerful enough, smooth, comfortable, sharp enough, etc. Love it.
I think the Ford Territory with 6 cylinder petrol engine is a good and very solid vehicle and will still be going strong when all these imports are in the scrap heap.
There are heaps on the scrap heap. Stacks being wrecked and parted out. Makes for cheap parts if you spanner.
I think most of them are in the scrap heap lol
There will be more parts than vehicles left on the road!
Fun fact: the first X5 that landed in Australia was ordered by Ford Australia. The disassembled and reassembled, drove & tested it to destruction, then cut it up and assessed the way the body was designed and welded together.
Yep and that's how they got the first territory. Have both cars up on a hoist and you can actually see the similarities. Holden did the same with the E39 5 series and designed the VE off of that too.
What i love about the Ford Territory is its simple drive-train with it being RWD, and the ever reliable Barra straight six. Its virtually impossible to find this set-up in a large and affordable SUV.
Ive had a 2012 diesel fof 3 years and its fantastic. Its on over 400,000km and still going strong. Takes a lot of abuse. Got everything you need
I bought a 07 new always serviced on time had it for 6yrs BEST CAR EVER...
I have since bought a 09 cheap from a drugo cleaned it up had it for 3yrs thus far ..... loving it.
Had 4.0 RWD example for a decade. It took the family with caravan around Aust and many other trips, towing boats etc. Did the job with a minimum of fuss.
SZ Petrol Territory, Yes, 100%. Although it does not have all the fancy features and equipment, but it is truly one of the most practical, most reliable and most fun to drive SUV. It is completely designed and manufactured in Australia and it really does suit most Aussie family's lifestyle. Fuel consumption is not too bad for such a big car too!
As a qualified mechanic i have owned and worked on a lot of cars and i can honestly say my 2014 SZ Diesel Territory is the best car i have ever owned, i bought it new and do all the work on it myself, not the easiest car to work on but take care of it and it will last you a long time.
Oh yeah. what car of you take care of wont last long? Even the Germans one will.
Have you had any issues with a DSC error code - which kills power to the car - resulting in having to pull over and turn the car off to get going again?
@@tgoodman3282 No the only problem i've had was a noise in the transmission when it was new and still under warranty it turned out to be the valve body in the transmission, hasn't missed a beat since and is ten years old now.
"it's not cheap and it's not pretty. It kinds of reminds me of one of my ex-girlfriends"
I felt that.
Disagree. Cheap and a dream!
Great video and the territory are great to drive.
I have a 2007 Barra Turbo AWD. I drove it home from work today.
I went the long way so I could enjoy the Barra Turbo magic. WHOOOSH.
Jim: “okay, we’ve got a LOT to get through here…”
Lol.
I have the same 2012 Territory Titanium as tested here (Mine is White) and I love it. Now 11 years old with 135.000 Ks and a Barra engine under the bonnet. In all the time I have owned it I have only replaced 2 ball joints, stabilizer link rods and the head lining and that's it. I got rid of the noisy Goodyear tyres off it and replaced them with Bridgestone ecopia and it is so much quieter inside now. No road noise at all. I've kept it regularly serviced and I'm very happy with it. It drives better than a car and is very comfortable on long distance driving. There are no rattles or bangs going on inside. I don't expect it to just keep on going without some form problems in the future but if I can get another 5 years out of it I would be very happy as for me there is nothing else out there on the market that I like that could top or make me feel better driving than this Ford Territory.
We owned a 5 seat SX and 7 seat SY Territory. Fit and finish was not perfect but we looked after the cars and they looked after us. Both petrol and RWD. Great cars for families. If only our 2019 Kia Sorento was as reliable.
Are Kia Sorento’s snot reliable? I’m looking to buy one as a family car
I had TS with a grey leather interior, still one of my favorite cars.
@@jasmineaoun2816 all I can say is ours hasn’t been. It took 11 months to diagnose correctly and fix our air conditioner and 3 months to fix a steering recall. In that time the vehicle was unsafe to drive and the battery died. Kia made us pay for the battery even though their delays caused it to die. We haven’t been impressed at all with the service we have received. We may have got a lemon but Kia haven’t helped the situation. Serviced always at the dealership and on time.
Don't buy a Korean car. Spend a little more and get a Toyota if you want reliability
lol
A petrol Territory is probably the most suitable car ever made for Australian conditions. A well-maintained one would be the perfect road trip car (as long as you weren’t going to go seriously off-road).
Having owned Falcons before, it’s the poor quality control and rust that’ll let them down. Otherwise, great cars (leagues ahead of the Craptiva for sure).
Nice to see a brief cameo of an e39 5 series too
How do you get rust in Australia? It doesn’t snow? There isn’t salt on the roads. That’s why our cars rust where I live. I mean I guess coastal cities I can see rust there and most of you live in said cities.
@@adamhayden5152 Cars will still rust without salted roads, All it takes is moisture, specially if trapped behind panels etc. The only places cars won't rust is in very dry environments like California. By the way we do get snow here in Australia.
@@adamhayden5152 tropical environments lead to rust. Cars generally don't rust as easily here but they certainly can rust.
@@adamhayden5152 Snows in NSW. Ski resort at Thredbo.
@@adamhayden5152 as you pointed out coastal cities (ie salt air) although I haven't had any rust in any car since my 1987 Mitsubishi Magna
I still miss my Territory, had it when my kids were little and it was amazing, we still talk about how much storage it had. The only thing that ever went wrong was the roof liner.
Does this back seat recline, I need a car for work!? Do all of them have a roof like this?
The market should not be kind to manufacturers of unreliable high maintenance diesels, it flys in the face of what they were supposed to be about, capable of long distances with normal maintenance.
I bought an SZII diesel a few years ago. I selected Diesel after owning Euro diesels (BMW and VW). The Territory was a surprise. I have a TX but the last production run included a lot of TS gear. The standout is open road cruising - nicely summed up in the video clip. The Euro’s were skittish on dirt roads and instilled zero confidence. The Territory is planted and so comfortable. Yes have seen 7’s in fuel consumption but generally about 8. Yes suspension needs to be watched.
I have a 2015 RWD petrol version that has just clocked under 90,000kms. It is a very capable vehicle. If you look after the vehicle the vehicle will look after you. I get it regularly serviced and have had no issues with it.
hi mate, i am totally new to any of the cars, by saying regularly serviced, how long or how many kms are we talking about here? cheers
It’s a bloody fantastic vehicle. Currently have a sz mk2 diesel rwd @ 122k. Second owner.
It still looks current, the interior is dated but not completely out of date.
Some might see it as a negative, but one of the great things is it has actual buttons to operate everything, doesn’t have any automatic braking crap. It’s just an old school vehicle, and for that it’s sublime!
The ride is great. It’s such a shame we lost this great vehicle.
Brilliant video! We purchased a 2013 2WD Titanium Diesel about 5 months ago. Had a bit of an expensive problem with transmission valve body and solenoids but once sorted it has been fantastic. Just came back yesterday from a mini-holiday travelling over 1200km through inland NSW and was very pleased with how well it performed!
We also have a rwd diesel titanium and it's the best car we've ever owned. 330,000kms and no issues at all. Sometimes we look at upgrading but there's really no point
Hi Richard,
What did you pay for your titanium? We are thinking of selling ours, 150kms full service history and wondering our price range
@@relaxxxdaily6585year?
Hi , have you had the auto trans serviced regularly in that 330K's ? Ours is a 2014 rwd Titanium diesel ,from new and we had premature trans problems at 80K's and was caused by contaminated trans oil(valve body issues) because Ford says transmission sealed for life! Now have trans oil change every 40K. Ford didnt want to know about this when lodged within warranty period. 6R80 transmission has plenty of complaints on the internet forums. Despite this hiccup ,the Territory is a great car to drive after 9 years of ownership. BTY, mostly country driving for us and averaging 7.6 L/100klms in diesel ,which is great for a big car . Martin @@kane9956
With the tedious/uncertain/costly nature of service/repairs if modern vehicles, more people are turning back to older and simplier cars to own and run. If you can find a reasonably well maintained Terri, they are a good solid platform. Give it a good service and perform some preventative maintenance on componentry and you'll easily get ine of these things to over 400k.
Obviously, having the Barra 4.0L over 2.7TDCi is a no brainer, with basic and small preventative maintenance the Barra's will charge over 500k with ease and cheaply. Both 4sp and 6sp trans need servicing, despite the whole "sealed for life" BS. If its high milage or has towing history, service the bloody thing. Install a trans cooler if more towing planned.
Now the 2009 SY2 got revised front suspension components to recify high wear characteristics from as earlier SX, SX2 and SY1 lower control and radius arm bushes and ball joints. Yes you can fit the updated SY2/SZ front end to earlier SX and SY1 models, it will require replacement of the steering knuckle/WH assembly. Shocks, springs and upper control arms are the same, I recommend the upgrade if your budget permits.
And yup, the notorious rear diff bushes. 🤷 It's a $3k~ job at a shop and if they are worn bad they will not pass a rego check.
The rest of the car is standard fanfare like any older or high milage car. Roof lining, shocks, a couple worn trims, fogged headlights ect.
TX and TS trims in SX and SY series models owned by families will likely be flogged out shitboxes by now, so if you can find a Ghia owned and well maintained by an older couple that'd be a good place to start. Give the engine and trans a really good service, slowly knock over the suspension components and maybe prepare for diff bushes if they havent already been done.
I own a '11 SY2 Limited Edition, 4.0L RWD/4sp with 345k.
I bought mine with 169.000 km now 300.000 it still drives great and at 10 to 11 litres per 100 km not bad and very reliable and cheap to fix
We have a territory and it is amazing! the roof liner surprisingly still intact! 190k on the clock.
Territory based on Falcon Ute. Motor, transmission, diff are bullet proof.
Great buy.
I'm on my 3rd territory, lovem. Once they get to 250,000K's I moved them on. just picked up a 2014 territory in 2023 with only 80,000 K's on it. Drives beautiful and tows my camper like it isn't there.
Good video while remaining objective and actually seeing these car strengths and weaknesses
As a bit of a ford fanatic and someone who owns a BA Falcon with 542,000km on it. I will let you in on a few thing
Firstly the auto. The auto themselves are pretty robust. However, the biggest failure of the auto isn’t the auto themselves, but the transmission cooler that is plumed into the radiator. Ones that degrade, it mixes the transmission fluid with the coolant and no only is your transmission shot, but your radiator is as well. A simple fix, install an external transmission cooler, even if you never plan to tow.
The ball joints are more of a problem on the earlier variants such as SX, SY and usually would have some squeaks and creaking coming from suspension. Usually take it to a suspension specialist and they can fix the ball joint for around $200-300 with parts.
The diff bushes biggest failure is that they’re made of rubber. When the car is new they feel great and give the car such a silky smooth drive. However, as weight is placed on the bushes and rubber deteriorate by age, then the diff bushes let go and causes clunking going on at the back end. best solution, replace the bushes with polyurethanes bushes (ideally superpro) and they will last a hell of a lot longer. You can get them supply and fitted from around $700-800
Roof lining can be replaced as little as $250-300
Basic maintenance is the key for these cars and if you the oil changes regularly on this car, it will last a long time. Transmission service should be done around 50,000km as well. Not to mention these cars are some of the most easiest cars to work on.
Overall if you find one that hasn’t been trashed or neglected, it a great car for the price that should serve you for a really long time. Also, if your somewhere like in Victoria where lpg is still available, they can be really cheap to run with the correct dual fuel system. They’re a great driving car
Yes! I did buy one! - just like your example, about three years ago, but in a beautiful metallic cherry red that really lifts the chrome-festooned front-end. I did my homework and arrived at the same conclusions you did and went for the simplicity and reliability of the petrol, RWD, Series One SZ. It's basically a tall Falcon, and I'm loving it. I'm getting ~12L/100kms (or 25mpg in the old money) with mixed highway and town driving, which I think is very respectable for a 2-tonne, 260-horse beast. The best I've seen on the dash was a 10.3 after lots of highway driving.
A very important detail your mechanic didn't mention is that only the petrol Series One ZF runs the genuine, German-built 6HP26 ZF gearbox, as found in BMWs, Mercedes, Jags and even Maseratis, Aston Martins, Bentleys and Rolls Royce Phantoms! Ford Australia stashed their stock of these robust gearboxes for fitment to the last, high-powered Falcons when the writing was on the wall for their Australian car production, and so the final, Series Two petrol Territories were fitted with lighter, lower torque-bearing, Chinese-made ZF gearboxes. My research revealed that all SZ diesels ran American-made "ZF-like" gearboxes.
Does 2012 tx sz rwd petrol have the milkshake issue?
@@sle2979 Sorry mate, I don't know if the genuine German ZF (as fitted to petrol RWD SZ) has that milkshake issue. I guess it's something I should look into but I'm assuming that since that gearbox was also fitted to many Falcons, it would've been a widely reported issue and I'm just not getting a sense that it is. It certainly wouldn't hurt to get a tranny cooler fitted, especially if one was regularly towing anything heavy.
Some were exported to Thailand. Not many. I have never seen one on the road, but I've seen a few at the Ford main dealer when I take my Escape in for service. The design is good and the size is very practical. If they can stand up to Australian conditions they must be tough. Thanks for the video!
I currently own a 2005 TX model reaching 300,000ks and its still running amazingly I did have to replace the door lock actuator but that's the only real problem I've had since buying the car
I picked mine up (2011 AWD diesel) with just over 130000ks , excellent condition , full service history for under 12k , several months ago. The tail shaft bearing needed replacing almost immediately ($490) the roof lining dropped not long after we got it. We were quoted $600 to fix it but did it ourselves for a little over $200 . It had receipts for new bushes and brakes.
My mechanic, who has owned several of them over the years , reckons I snagged a good one.
Your advice is spot on . Get a pre purchase inspection done . Great vehicles but if in any doubt , don't!
I've owned two Terris - the first a petrol 2004 brought new, sold that after 12 months as we had 2 company cars had the TS still managed a trip to Qld with the kids, then brought a diesel Titianum version, awesome car travelled throughout Ausi, great car only had the centre bearing replaced after 8 years great long distance car drove very well.
My partner just purchased a 2012 titanium.
Elderly owner now in a retirement home.
The territory is really comfortable and drives really well. We have the turbo diesel and it's smooth with plenty of get up and go when needed.
Nice and quiet to drive.
Has 180,000km and regular services.
Seems to be a nice family car.
My vehicle is a Holden 1989 VN APV Group 5i with over 400,000 on it.
Bought a 2006 turbo Ghia around a year ago, brilliant aussie SUV absolutely love it. Already had bushes and ball joints done before I purchased it. Heavy on fuel but who cares, great everyday driver 👍
Had the second iterition TS with AWD. What a brilliant car that Ford Australia made. Fantastic Barra with the 6 speed auto.Did not have a single fault. Had it for the longest time of any car I owned 18 months ago looking for a SUV that would bring back that Territory feel and size and a lovely 6 cylinder, I bought a Sorento V6. It reminds me so much of the Territory. It is a travesty that Ford Australia is no longer. Both the Falcon and Territory were perfect vehicles for the huge kilometres of Australia. Loved the big Fords.
Should've just had a full video with Jim doing the what's go wrong with it. Faaar....
My dad has an original Ghia. It's now done about 250000ks. It pulls to the left, massive brake shudder, drivers seat broken, ignition sticks on...
But that engine is still going strong!
the roof lining falling down in that territory just gives me nostalgia for dads old falcon. the one in that thing actually ended up getting stapled down, not a good thing for someone wanting to buy their own per se but it was nice just seeing something like that taking me back to my childhood ^_^
In 2004 I bought a TS AWD. We used to use it for travelling and used to tow a fully loaded campervan and a family of of 4. With the cruise set at 100kph it would just soak up the Ks. One of the best cars I have ever known.......looking for another one at the moment....
my parents owned a 2006 Ford Territory Ghia. car was only 3 years old when they got it and they say it was the best handling car they ever drove at that point, and had the NA barra I6 which was indestructible.. basically raised us kids (I'm coming up 19) the car was nearing 300,000kms when they sold it on 2018. car definitely tired when they sold it though. interior was extremely worn and the headliner was completely fallen, interior trim was missing/broken, paint was buggered, hood, boot was rusted. (which i have noticed is a very common thing), but it kept going and going.
We had a 2006 AWD SX. Suspension bushes, shocks, brake light switch and pinched wiring in the indicator stalk needed fixing. Brilliant car. Wish we still had it.
Your on the money, Ford nailed the driving brief with the Territory, Beautiful SUV to drive!!
Had a 2016 TX SZ Mk11 Diesel ex fleet car bought at 120k. I took it to I think 170k before I traded it in. Great car. If well looked after you should be right. I did the timing belt, rear bushes apart from those big ticket items, never had any real issues. Apart from one of the rear speakers blowing. Which was good, then I could go to autobarn and upgrade em. We chucked on some Bridgestone dueler ATs and took it from Melbourne to Longreach and then down the coast back in a month, could not fault it. Just ate up the kilometres. I really regret trading that thing in. Whenever I see one now I just always just shake my head at why I got rid of it. Just a fair dinkum solid performer.
Just gone back to Territory and sold the Sportage which was going through oil. So good to be back, man this thing can haul. The kia would see a hill coming and drop 2 cogs but the Territory just laughs ... steers nicely too.
The sagging roofline is a special Ford feature first appeared in the E series Falcon and carried forward to future models as a no cost option.
Still for me the best big suv to drive I have ever had and I have had a few different ones. Driving that car bought a smile to my face that I can not say about too many other standard sort of cars
Very Good! Just bought an SZ 2012 2.7TDCI as a work horse. Bought the diesel due to my Jaguar affection! Did SYD BNE return the day after I bought it. Performed beautifully, besides some issues I just love it.
Great video as always guys!! I was watching it going 'you know what, a territory wouldn't be a terrible thing's for about the first half. Then it was 'yeah, a lot of stuff does fail on them and generally are a really budget built thing.... BUT at least they'd be reasonably well priced to fix, still a lot of car for the money'. Then when you said one like that is around $20k I nearly threw up in my mouth!
The roof lining (and engine/trans) is the only thing to not go wrong on my 280km 04 AWD. But she's still going and the most useful car I have owned.
Followed your advice bought a 2.7 V6 awd Santa Fe instead with 150,000 on the clock, best decision ever. Regularly hauling a mobility scooter full assembled inside, hasn't missed a beat thanks guys
I've had my 2011 SZ AWD from new. It's on its second gearbox (there was a recall, so make sure that's been done) & I've just replaced the head unit screen (easy to do yourself once you source the replacement screen). On the odd occasion I've had to clean the electric window points, but all in all its been the perfect family car. With the kids now gone we've just upgraded the suspension (& given it a 1.5 inch lift), put on some ATT's, diff breathers, learned how to use the transmission modes correctly ("mode 2" for tracks) & have turned it into a hardened soft roader "4WD". It owes us nothing, so why not ! It goes just about anywhere you'd ever want to in the Vic High country; just take your time !
Something you missed is the oil cooler failing allowing the coolant and transmission oil to mix also known as the milkshake.
Something similar happened with the Pathfinder, but those didn't have oil coolers. However that only happened to those with the 4.0 v6 and automatic transmission. It wasn't just the Pathfinder though, every Nissan with the 4.0 V6 and automatic transmission up till 2010 had that issue.
they did mention it briefly
15.01 a brief mention.
One positive thing I can say about them, they do provide great rear seat comfort on long trips.
Bought my SZ new in 2013 to keep forever. This year it’s hit 350.000km and drives as smooth as ever. It has aged however. This year have had done: hoodlining, brake rotors, centrebearing, and about to spend $1500 on front suspension , which will make a total of $3200 spent this year , but it will see me out for another 10 years. Does that scare you? If so, get rid of your territory at about 220,000 km and leave the $ to the next owner. It’s not fancy in terms of tech, but it’s simple and does the miles with ease and I’d amazingly economical. Oh and did one door actuator. But fit and finish has been good and no rust being inland. The one in the video is a baby at 170,000. SUSPENSION is it’s nemesis because when you add 600kg to a falcon you need different suspension set up to carry it!
It's great to see an Aussie car featured on the channel. You chose a good one to start with too.
S. K. we've also had a Commodore ute on the channel. - AK
Would love to see the VF reviewed. Probably the peak of local manufacturing
@@ReDriven I had forgotten that. I look forward to your next review of an Aussie car. I think this video was important in that it highlighted one of the great cars we made here that people overseas generally wouldn't have heard of.
My 320,000km SY AWD is still going great, I paid peanuts for it about 4 years ago and have put almost 100k on it since. I’ve had to spend some money on it in that time, but it was cheap enough to buy that I still feel I’ve come out on top. It’s now been handed down to my brother but I would have another one in a heartbeat, especially a petrol SZ. Yes they have issues, but they’re all well-documented and most are cheap/easy to fix.
If you look after the sy barra awd 6 speed they are bulletproof . You just have to service them . Everything wears out eventually . Im about to turbo mine . Should be fun with 600hp at all 4 wheels .
Have had many cars over the last 15 years. But found all suffered costly issues shortly after the new car warranties expired, and in the case of the 2015 Caprice V I owned. That was a lemon right from the start. Decided two years ago to buy a second hand 2014 Titanium with 70k on the clock. Best purchase I have ever made. My only regret is never buying one of these brand new when I had the chance.
I own the 07 Territory TX the biggest issue I had and what I can see in this video is the headliner sagging, its a cheap fix. Maintenance is quite expensive, I had to import suspension parts from Australia and recently installed a new starter motor. This thing is a Tank, indestructible and sounds like a beast drives really well, my third row comes accross a bit better than what I saw in this video though
The Ford Territory review! 🎉
One of best Aussie cars ever made.
As my family car in a Ghia spec. It’s perfect!! That Barra is a thirsty, but hardy beast.
Great vehicle. Owned one and spent good money keeping maintenance up but it was such a good cruiser and a great drive. Actually regret selling it now.
That's a very fair review
We bought a 2012 titanium diesel rwd in 2019, towed a small trailer load (we were moving house) from Melbourne to Emerald in central QLD, twice, and she never skipped a beat. Her front suspension is a bit tired nowadays, but driving 150km a day, to and from work on some of the shittest roads I've ever seen (and I've driven on Warrigal Rd) and having 280,000km on the clock, can't blame her. Biggest mechanical issue so far is a faulty fuse or relay that kept giving us a low oil pressure warning. Got a 2nd mechanic to have a look and it's sorted. Still runs smooth as silk. Trans is probably due for a service though. Starting to take too long to think about gear changes when pulling out of side streets. But still, 280,000km
(And I've driven on Warrigal rd) bahhahah so true
Had my 09 Territory 4.0 rwd BTR, for 8 years. Original 1 owner, 150,000 ks, 5 seat, older owner, immaculate condition. It's been over half of Queensland, NSW, Vic, and I've replaced all the suspension bushings with steel sleeved nolathane, never gonna have to do them again, brakes are now bigger grooved with ceramic pads, and a snail. Total sleeper because I like not being the centre of attention. Since I've had mine, my son in law bought one a month after me, even though I had just given my daughter a Kluger, he swapped from a Commodore, friends sold their Adventura and bought one, my daughter's mate bought one. They're perfect for Aussies and Aussie families, 100% Australian, and one of the last wholly Australian designed and built cars made by Ford. My last car was a twin turbo 95 VR, another sleeper, I'm a Holden guy through and through. I also love cars of all types. I'm a petrol head, full stop. Territory's have their issues, what car doesn't. All the issues have been addressed by the performance industry in Australia, so get your advice through them. They've done the research and development.
The roof liner fell down, the diffs needed replacing. The Barra engine didn't miss a beat though, transmission seemed to hold up.
How much did the diff issues set you back.i think my bushes up front need replacing
My Headlining is the same. Bought some white drawing pins from Bunnings . Spaced them symmetrically in rows about 30 cm apart. Cheap patch up.
Great cars in Barra form. Top review as always fellas.
Bought my SZ 4 litre Territory new in 2016, one of the last off the assembly line. Still going perfect, and no plans to get rid of it anytime soon.
I own 2 lol, a 2016 titanium and a 2008 ghia. BRAND NEW diff bushes, ball joints, cv joints, suspension, brand spanking new never used ghia steering wheel makes my 2008 an absolute joy to drive, I actually enjoy it more than my titanium.
My dad got one brand new back in 2004 and I had so many great memories as an 18yo in it that I now love my territories.
I'm a rare aussie, 2 territories and a VZ clubby. So depends if you're a Ford or Holden man, either way, I've committed blasphemy.
lol Adam looking awesome as always.
Watch out for the hinges on the rear glass, they break, if often lubricated, they don’t.
The roof liner is $200 fix (2018 dollars).
Too true....mine sheared off last year....
I couldnt believe it....i have 2015...AWD TS. Series 2...195k on clock ....good car, but a lot of cheap plastics and fittings.....i drive my dads AU now he's gone too
.....now thats good build quality...
Bought my 2nd hand 2014 diesel over 3 years ago to replace the aging Fairmont which had served us well for over 15yrs. Both cars used for towing boats but Territory has incredible power and wipes the floor with the towing. Just had roof fixed for $400 and screen has gone which is a pain but otherwise it is a great all round vehicle. Drives beautifully.
Had my SZ Titanium since new, still have it and drive it daily. Kept it serviced regularly and it’s still going well.
Just picked up 2011 SY Limited edition Barra, RWD. 7 seater.
Absolutely love it.
Uses a little bit more fuel than my BA Fairmont GHIA.
I had 2.7 turbo diesel, a fantastic car and I had zero issues with it. Now I'm driving Ford Endura, which is great car in every way, too, but I wish that would come with more powerful engine than 2.0 Turbo Diesel (190hp/400nm)
It amazes me how similar this looks to the Ford Freestyle/Taurus X we had in the US even though they have literally nothing in common.
The previous models look eerily similar to the Freestyle. The more modern ones have a front end that looks more like the previous generation Escape, but the side profile still has that Freestyle/Taurus X look.
God bless the usa
The first territory looked like they modelled it from the Explorer
Aus had to take a scale model to Dearborn for approval , that is why they look like each other .
I bought an 05 TX for my first car, 230k kilometres when purchased, now approaching 280k and still great to drive
It was great to see an example that wasn't missing that plastic strip beneath the rear window, or no brake lights.
I would buy a petrol model if given the choice. The diesel models are a mixed bag with reliability. On all models the suspension will wear prematurely. I have lost count of how many I have seen through my shop that have needed ball joints & other suspension parts at low kms. I have seen ball joints fail at as low as 30,000kms intervals quite regularly. They generally need a fair bit of maintenance just to keep them in roadworthy condition. Suspension arms & wheel bearings to name a few.
if your on an extremely tight budget and looking for a reliable family 'truckster' and want to buy the SX model? buy the BA Wagon that it replaced instead!
My 2011 SZ rwd petrol Territory- I still love driving it. Very, very reliable and comfortable.
I have a 4l rwd 2016 last year it was made tx
It's not for someone who wants a quick sports car, if you do then why are you here
It's better than the kluger, maybe not the earlier models
It does what it says on the tin
It's probably geared more to a small family who likes to go places on the weekend, take the kids to school and then go shopping in comfort
But heck I have pushed her alright, nothing breaks down yet, knock on wood, I'm up to 107k km now and she is still going very well, takes me all over the place
The barra is its biggest upside, and drivability
I have a 2012 TX its the greatest car Ive ever owned, the car has now done 240k and still runs like a dream, if looked after which I have done the condition of interior and exterior just superd. Keep up the maintenance who knows how long this will go. The only thing i have done is upgrade the suspension for towing a caravan which the barra does with ease. Great Australian car
My dad had an SX Territory in South Africa with the 24v Barra. It was a bloody good car and really quick and capable. The only fly in the ointment was a lot of going problems with the front suspension - but this was down to crap dealer service and unhelpful Ford SA, apart from that it was a genuinely lovely car. The lack of all the ridiculous new ADAS and electronic tech is a good thing in my book.
We had an early production Territory and it was one of my wife's favourite cars we've owned. Good was it was a great tourer and you could pack so much stuff in it. It was also very comfortable. Downside was it was heavy on fuel and chewed up suspension parts like ball joints and bushes. However the reason we were glad to get rid of it after a few years, was the Ford dealer network. Our family have sworn off Ford for life after how we were treated by one dealer and Fords complete and total disregard for what was done to us. There just never will be another Ford in our driveway.
Also one of the only ones in its range that can fit 3 baby seats across the middle. Brilliant cars.
I had a Territory Diesel as a company car for 5 years.
Apart from all faults already mentioned, the Diesels suffer badly from turbo lag.
I would class it as dangerous. Once the turbo wound up it moved ok.
A friend who has recently bought one fitted an iDrive which makes a huge difference and practically eliminates this.
Feel like reminiscing, I had a 2012 Sz Titanium RWD Diesel with the third row seat deleted at the factory and Taupe interior (why do all cars these days have black interior, yuck). I loved it and drove it for 10 years from new with some issues. Until a drunk driver cleaned it up while parked in the street. Issues I had were premature wear in diff bushes that needed replacing at 80k the actuators failing in the air con system that needed replacing, brake rotors and pads were replaced at 125k, Windscreen washer fluid pumps failed, Brake pedal switch failed. Drivers side electric window switches stopped working (i fixed this myself when I took it apart and found the electrical contacts had been sparking, filed the burnt stuff off the contacts and put some dielectric grease on them and better than new. Drivers power window clips broke, easily fixed. Apart from the Diff Bushes, Brakes and Aircon repairs, I was able to fix all the other items myself. The diesel was a fantastic engine with plenty of torque, but it blew a lot smoke when pushed hard. On a trip to Dubbo from Brisbane and back I averaged 6.8 l/100km fantastic economy and around town in peak hour traffic about 9.2 l/100km. I now drive a 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe Elite AWD Diesel which is a massive step up from the Territory in technology and fuel economy (same trip to Dubbo and back I achieved 4.7 l/100km). The Santa handles much better, but the Terri was quieter and a far smoother ride with more space in the second row and in the boot. I had a Territory SX Ghia AWD before the SZ and the SZ was a much better vehicle in every department. I tried buying a second hand SZ after mine was totaled but couldn't find any as good as mine at a decent price. Not a fan of the SZ series 2 infotainment system SYNC 2 I think it was called. The series 1 system was much easier to use.
In 2017 I bought an 18 month old TS spec 2015 2.7 Diesel, in part wanting to be patriotic and with a view to keeping the car for many years. Rear parking sensors failed almost immediately. While installing mud guards I was shocked by the extent of corrosion and flaking paint on the rear subframe. While the rear parking sensors were being repaired at my local Ford dealer I asked about the corrosion, when I collected the car they said 'we looked at a few other 2015 Territories and they are ALL like this, and no its not covered by warranty'. So after 4 months of ownership Ford offered peanuts against a new Everest, so I went across the road and traded it in for a new (2017) Toyota Prado for a much better deal. The financial loss over 4 months made the Territory the most expensive and disappointing car I ever owned. The Prado is the best by a county mile! My only mistake in buying Toyota was buying the extended warranty - its still under warranty, but I have never made a claim.
I've had an SY and now an SZ.
The SY was the biggest piece of automobile rubbish I've ever driven. Tailgate hinges, rear tailgate garnish falling off on the freeway, suspension problems, and lately an exploding transmission.
Through a long story, I've ended up with a 2014 SZ titanium which I picked up for $15k with 162k kms on it. Since getting it I've replaced the timing belt, and had an unfortunate incident with a brake caliper jamming on while driving down the freeway. Apart from that, it's just been basic maintenance for the SZ which is now sitting at 176k kms and going strong
Ive got the 2,7L Diesel and its been great.
Service is more but hasn't missed a beat
I love my territory. My first car was an ‘07 BF XR6. I only gave it up because it was getting hard to put the kids in a car so low to the ground, and having tall kids meant they were a little squished!
Once we got to 4 kids, it just wasn’t going to work anymore! So I got an ‘11 territory, and it was just like driving my original car, but with more family space. Never been stranded, and it’s been out bush! It’s capable, surprisingly (and the look on the faces of family with their great 4x4s when it came through to play, after a rainstorm, with trailer attached, was priceless!)
I reckon it’s a great car, even with her little faults (yeah, like those window motors, just like the XR6 lol)
I drove one of these and it seriously raised my eyebrows. It is so nice to drive. But my wife said it looked too much like a family. I would have bought one.
Great car. My brother has one, takes care of it, still looks good great, everyday motoring. Interstate trip is easy
I bought a 6 speed auto 2006 one for $1500 3 years ago. It was the cheapest on gumtree in Sydney at the time. It's ( still ) dead straight body wise tho at the time of purchase needed a new windscreen. The roof lining typically falls from them however thumb tacks feel very nicely being pushed through the roof lining amends that issue. It needed a full front end suspension replacement tho I felt it worthwhile paying $2800 to do that which included puting new diff seals at the front. It has the engine light coming up at the moment and I think that's due to the cracked inlet manifold gasket which most likely is causing it to throw out the canbus electric system to chaos however the car runs fine tho smells a little rich in fuel. They are an awesome car. You see lots at motor wreckers and I assume it's because of the expensive front end work that I hear they need doing ( at least in my model anyway ) tho I think it's worth the repair money.. they are not cumbersome Huge SUVs like you see Toyota, Hyundai, Audi build now, remaining I guess mid size in comparison to currently built family cars albeit A Falcon on Steroids. Just make sure you find a Honest mechanic that knows how to fault find and not some north shore mechanic wanker I will refrain from pointing out that I had try to bend me over that fault finds with his canbus computer crap !. Sorry for the horrible rant...
Yes ! Buy a second hand ford territory. Find a good Honest mechanic because it may need work . Great car 💪👍
The inlet manifold gasket is the only thing I've replaced besides normal wear and tear items.
I purchased 2.7 diesel TS new in 2015 it now has 50k up, it is serviced on time and have had no mechanical issues. And that I think is the to reliability look after it and it will give you many years of trouble free motoring. It is a.brilliant car.
From experience, best bit of advice to give ,if automatic, get the transmission serviced asap. If its a 6R80 transmission and if not serviced by regular oil changing, will have solenoid/valve body issues. Trans oil will be contaminated with metal paste from inside the gearbox because Ford saved money by using sleeves instead of bearings inside the torque converter on this box. Plenty of info on this on Ford forums for 6R80 transmission which is common in many ford cars in the US . Always cheaper to change oil regularly than buy a new trans. all the best .Martin
We own a 2015 v6 turbo diesel territory and absolutely love it!!!!
The turbo version of the Barra engine is basically the Australian 2JZ, since both engines are known for having incredible amounts of tuning potential.
Just got a SZ territory diesel and overall extremely good vehicle to drive for its size. Nothing wrong with it mechanically as of yet but will definitely be taking it serviced as it needs to be. One thing i did have a problem with was it’s head unit (ICC). It’s very common apparently for them to fail and it’s very annoying not see the aircon controls in the display, can’t turn off the radio (even with the car totally off) and kind of expensive to replace.
Same here 😢 it’d be fine if Ford made up for it’s crappy design but they don’t even produce them anymore, so all working ICC’s are worth too much.
Any plans on reviewing an xr6 turbo?
Bought a used 2012 turbo diesel with 170,000km back in 2018 and whilst it had some of the issues listed, never had anything major mechanically go wrong. It was relatively cheap to service and for a car of its size not bad on fuel. Sadly we had it stolen just before Christmas. We have decided to go for a 2016 Jaguar F-Pace with the 3 litre V6 twin turbo diesel engine. Fingers crossed we have the same luck with it like we did with our Territory
I have a few ranging from 2006 to 2012 in which I have now. Great cars & they do have issues but parts are plentiful & can diy most your self. 😉
No mention of being under braked? Rotors warp prematurely
Isn't the falling roof liner a feature of the Falcons and Terris? Much like the warped front brake discs? :P Thinking of offloading my 2006 Fairmont for a Terri (cross shopping older CRV and Rav4), and your video has helped me.
Magnas were notorious for roof lining fails.