Hunters And Collectors - Say Goodbye Reaction
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- In this video we're listening to Hunters And Collectors once more. This band took a second, but we're really warming up to them. We're really enjoying their unique style and choices, and we can't wait to continue this journey with them. Enjoy!
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This is quite good, I like it, I look forward to hearing more from this band.
Love, love, love, well known for their horns and bass... and yes of course I have seen these guys live 😁. It was so funny when my group of friends, mostly blokes, would go around singing 'you don't make me feel like a woman anymore' 🤣
Midnight Oil also use horns sometimes as well. Great reaction!
Almost joy division ISH, I like it, another naff video, top marks 🏴✌️
The scene: a beer barn by the harbour in Newcastle. July 1988. Hunters head a three-band bill, supported by Paul Kelly (and the Coloured Girls at tgag point, still, I think) and Ups & Downs. (While I think of it, The Living Kind: check it out.)
Now picture 1000 drunk men yelling “You don’t make me feel like a woman anymore!”
Brilliant! John Archer's bass playing is second to none.
Ta for this. Thought it would get you close to the power of Hunters. ''Holy Grail'' is their winning ticket.
This was their first commercial hit, if I recall. They were always a bit alternative, but you can tell how powerful they were in a pub-rock setting. That repeated line of "You don't make me feel like I'm a woman anymore." was brilliant as he has such a strident male delivery and no matter whether you were actively listening to the radio or just having it as background noise that line was fantastic for catching your attention.
I gave my other suggestions for them already so I won't annoy you with repeats.
Excellent ! Sounds a bit like All Lined Up by Shriekback. Solid bass 🔊 .
Aussies loved their brass instruments in their rock at this time. The Saints and ex-Saint Ed Kuepper used a lot of brass in their music; Painters And Dockers and that lovely song about ''Hippies'' by Dough Anthony Allstars... Midnight Oil used brass on The Power & The Passion and Beds Are Burning.. Models probably over did it on Out Of Mind Out Of Site.. Do-Re-Mi and The Birthday Party threw in the odd brass on the barbie..
Sorry about the last comment - couldn't help myself. We did like our brass in our musical pockets in those days.
Love to see anything by Ed Kuepper, and yes, he knew how to use brass.
@@DamienCalnon-uq7zj They've left The Saints in the backwater. I think they did two or three songs by them, and none by Ed!
Currently listening to Ed - Also Sprach, King of Voice and Blind Girl Stripper. Great, great songs. I had the first 2 Saints albums along time ago and then I started reading in the music press about Ed in the early 90s. I ordered a couple of cds from Hot Records by post - 2 superb compilation albums. One of the artists that I really want to see live. It looks like I will have to eventually visit my cousins down under in order to see Ed live. What are your favourite tracks by him?
@@DamienCalnon-uq7zj Actually, you asked the right guy about Ed because I had been a fan since 1976.. ''(I'm) Stranded'' blew us all away in Australia and there was no going back after that. I saw The Saints live in Melbourne a few times in the 70's, and I was at that gig where that now famous photo of a young Nick Cave looking down at Chris Bailey was taken.
For Ed's non-Saints work, I really like his next band Laughing Clowns and their song ''Holy Joe'' from 1980. In fact, everything by The Clowns were top stuff for me, because it's that mix of jazz and post-punk. ''Eternally Yours'' by Laughing Clowns is a great tune.
I also enjoy ''Also Sprach King'', ''The Way You Make Me Feel'', ''This Hideous Place'' and a lot of The Aints records are just brilliant! Seen Ed as a solo too many times to count and I've seen The Aints through the 90's, 2000's, 2010 and I'll be seeing The Saints ''reunion'' (without Bailey) in November with my two kids, who luckily are into the same stuff I'm into...
Hot is an excellent label !
Wow, you actually saw the Saints in the 70s! I am envious. Were they ferocious live as their records? My favourite song and recording by them is Demolition Girl live at the Hope and Anchor (a London music pub). Do you know it? I know a couple of the songs that you have mentioned and I love Hideous Place. When i ordered Ed"s cds from Hot, I also got a couple of Aints cds. I was expecting to prefer them but actually it turned out to be the other way around.
Glad to hear you are att6the "Saints" gig. If I were down under, I would definitely go. I do go to some gigs with my daughter and thankfully they are alternative as well.
I see Mark Arm will be handling vocals. He should be a very good fit - I like early Mudhoney. Have fun!
Thanks for reacting to this song - I love it. For something a little more contemporary from Hunters would be 'Holy Grail 'or 'True Tears of Joy' Both outstanding songs and a different, more refined part of their catalogue.
Another great song , from a phenomenal lp. Saw them at The Channel club in Boston when they toured for this album.
Painters And Dockers and Hunters And Collectors did the same thing. Just with different personalities. 😄
Excellent observation Gillian
couldn't have said it better myself!
@@VolumeEleven thank you 😃
@@SnAke_Eyez_oVer_ParAdice Ha, ha - thanks!
@@liveitup67 👍 I read you were part of that Countdown gang in Melbourne. Some of my mates performed on Countdown back in the 80's.. More Countdown Revolution which was a bit of a decline from Countdown..
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Great, fun song. Love the bass, a great tone. And good way pf telling the story. I requested this to, but i thought ot was called You Dont Make Me Feel Like A Woman Anymore, not Say Goodbye.
The Riff has similarities to AC/DC’s ‘Whole Lotta Rosie’.
After a chat with Jay, I thought of an interesting comparison.
Hot Chocolate vs Paul Kelly - It Started With A Kiss
Another intense song on the album 'Human Frailty' is the epic ''Everything's On Fire'' (recommended). Some begrudge them for the more conventional approach, but I was happy to see them do away with the gas cylinders and funk-industrial musical landscapes. They were being a bit too arcane by the mid 80's and it was getting tiresome.
Thanks for the H&C song guys.
If you get a chance, please play "Under the Sun" from H&C's for us. Thanks.
Actually, any song off their Album "Fate" would be acceptable.
It would be enough to warm an Aussie Country boys' heart. (No Kidding)
I remember the name but I never listened to the music. Probably Australian. Good riff and energy, I liked the brass and the bass, will probably never hear it again.
*Do Re Mi - Man Overboard / Adultery (Audio + Video merge 2024)*
Half of Hunters And Collectors are a brass section. The whole Human Frailty album is strong, and places a lot of emphasis on the breakdown of relationships and sexual politics. Another Australian album delving in similar subjects is Do-Re-Mi's first album Domestic Harmony. I had a hunch that Do-Re-Mi were inspired by Britain's Au Pairs, but by the release of Domestic Harmony, they were very much their own thing.
Lol.. It's so weird DIS, but I had that the first album by Au Pairs (''Playing with a Different Sex'') and I also had the first couple of Do-Re-Mi EP's. Not until now have I thought of the similitude between Do Re Mi and Au Pairs, but you're right. It is there! The first version of ''man overboard'' could pass as a Au Pairs tune. Domestic Harmony and Human Frailty are ripper albums!
The Haniers did ''Man OVerboard'' but only the shitty lyric video! 😐
@@kaitlynbatt_ My girlfriend in the early 80's had a couple of Au Pairs LPs and they did my head in. I hated it because I never liked sexual politics in angry songs, and there was a lot of lecturing going on in those tracks. But when I heard Do-Re-Mi for the first time in 1982/83, it was like they took more than a few pages from Au Pairs. "Man Overboard'', even though it's angry and a bit ''look what's he's done to me'' in tone, it was very affective and hits between the eyes. I didn't give a shit about the original ''Man Overboard'' from the first EP, but the hit on the Domestic Harmony album was ace!
I just had a look at the Haniers reaction to ''Man Overboard'' and I do remember originally seeing it. The video is had a stark mid 80's quality. Wasn't a couple of the Do Re Mi guys from XL Capris or Hoodoo Gurus?
@@DogInSpace NO, no one in Do-Re-Mi was in XL Capris or Hoodoo Gurus. Stephen Phillip (guitarist) was in The Thought Criminals, who I would regularly see. Mark Kingsmill, later of Hoodoo Gurus, played drums on their first EP.
Helen Carter (bass) was close to Thought Criminals and she played in a punk band called Fiction (I have a tape I recorded of them somewhere in my stack of old shit). Debbie Conway and Dorland Bray are from Melbourne and played in your inner city sound scene .. Yeah.. I grew sick of Au Pairs.. they're a one-off type band...
I love the video for Man Overboard because of all the sites that I remember so well... and the gig posters behind Debbie Conway and how pissed off she looks... Sydney was a blast in the 80's, but so drab at the same time.
@@kaitlynbatt_ Ah, got ya! I knew they had some closeness to the punk scene in Sydney. I did like Thought Criminals when they were around, and I did check them out whenever they came to Melbourne. Another decent Sydney was The Dropbears, who sadly turned into a commercial mess.
I do remember Debbie Conway when she doing some modelling work in Melbourne and I heard she had some involvement in our scene. I can't remember what band she played in over here. The Kevins, maybe?
@@DogInSpace Debbie Conway and Dorland Bray were in a band called The Benders and Bray had played in a band called The News, who had some crap song on that dodgy compilation album ''Lethal Weapons''. I managed the door when The Benders did some gigs back in the late 70's and before I knew it, Deb and Dory buggered off to Sydney and re-emerged with Do Re Mi.
This song and the whole album is about Mark Symore’s the lead singers failing relationship with his girlfriend May.
I was in England when I first heard this song on the radio, and I thought it sounded like Hunters And Collectors. Might have been my third time there. I would have thought this was Australian as anything.
Natasha, what are you talking? You thought it was Hunters & Collectors? It is Hunters And Collectors! Third time in England?
I would have thought this was Australian as anything
@@kaitlynbatt_ FFS Batty! Sorry, I'll clarify.
I first heard ''Say Goodbye'' on some radio station in England during my third visit to the great motherland. I thought that the song ''Say Goodbye'' had a sound similar to Hunters & Collectors, and I was later to find out that it was Hunters & Collectors.
I think H & C sounded very Australian or ''Australian As Anything''.
Do you know how tired I am when I write out all this shit?
@@leavemealone344 Sorry Natty
I was very interested in what you had to say and it just sounded like waffle. Can't help but be keen for your input. 🙃
@@kaitlynbatt_ After reading your conversation with DIS, I am now listening to Thought Criminals. They were shit!
I remember hearing them back in the old day, and they're almost as awful as Johnny Dole And The Scabs. XL Capris were the best Sydney punk band imo.
@@leavemealone344 It's really funny Natty, but The Thought Criminals were really popular in the inner city scene of Sydney. They got EP's out early in their existence and I thought they were a lot of fun. Johnny Dole And The Scabs were actually really good. Johnny Dole was a genuine punk. I don't know why you Melbourne lot didn't take to them, because they weren't as bad as your press made them out to be.
XL Capris might have been the best, but I am not convinced. The Numbers were also a great punk rock band before that first album was released.
I don't know what you're expecting to hear from The Thought Criminals because I think they were just fine for a punk band of that time period.
A bit of a shock hearing this on the radio in 1986 ! Considering the last song we heard from Hunters and Collectors was talking to a stranger in 1982. Lol . But it was the start of a new direction for the band. After failing in their trip overseas to England in 1983. They came back to Australia and reinventing themselves into a punk funk outfit.
This period was an odd one in Oz music because all the unique bands from the early 80's were either splitting up, paying off debts, starving in England, starving in America, or crossing over into the mainstream. Aussie Crawl were paying off debts and splitting up, and H & C were crossing over with this banger. I agree with DIS.. You need to do Do-Re-Mi's ''Adultery''.
Never too late to check out ''Warnings Moving Clockwise'', ''Adultery'' or ''Idiot Grin'' by DO Re Mi.. and Deborah Conway ''Alive And Brilliant'' or ''Only The Beginning''
Kaitlyn.. Did you work at Phantom records in the early 80's?
@@SnAke_Eyez_oVer_ParAdice I worked there in 1981, 1983-1985 (part time), moved to Melbourne from 1986.. You recognise me or what??? lol
@@kaitlynbatt_ Oh yeah, I remember you. I was a Birdman/Hitmen fan.. I saw Deep Cuts reaction to you being in that Le Hoodoo Gurus video and it slowly dawned on me where I saw you from... You were a bit of a gigrat, you worked the bar at Selina's.
I had chats with you at Phantom in the 80's.. Some of my mates used to drop your name ''Batty'' at Phantom Records.
You were a nice chick, easy to talk to ..
My name's Sandy
I really like the pounding drums and bass line. I think the brass is ok on this song. Not sure about his vocals when he holds on to those notes. I imagine in a sweaty pub this would have been good.
It sounds like the vocal has been recorded in the Mersey Tunnel.
You'd get a far better vocal by listening to Elkie Brooks, and she's been mentioned many times, too!
This was their first real mainstream hit (as opposed to ''Talking To A Stranger'' being a chart song, but not sung in pubs). It was also the first song they did on Countdown, which was very strange to see. H & C miming in front of the Countdown logo and not live at some sweaty pub. Dogs reminded me of Do-Re-Mi, who I happened to see live with a Countdown kid friend Regina, who just happens to be DogInSpace's cousin. Small world, is it not?
Gillian will not like it, but I suggest Do-Re-Mi's ''Adultery''.
Cheers,
Hayley
''Adultery'' (the song) doesn't bother me as much as it used to.
@@liveitup67 I'm glad
Fine entry into popularity for H&C, though some other H & C songs I'd put before this..
Models ''Barbados'' could be an interesting 80's Oz pop/rock tune to check out. Kate Ceberano and Zan Abeyratne of I'm Talking do great backing vocals and the video's quite amusing, though disturbingly prophetic. Singer James Freud unalives himself in the video, which sadly became a reality 25 years later (on the week Models were inducted in the Australian hall of music (ARIA Hall Of Fame)). In the video, James Freud plays a Vietnam vet struggling with alcohol abuse, which is something Freud had been struggling with all his adult life. When it seemed he finally came around to sobriety, he ended it all in 2010.
I suggest you check out the video for Models ''Barbados''.
Nice request!!! Were you a Countdown kid in the 80's? I had his two books and I couldn't put them down when I first got them. After he turned out his lights, I returned to both of his books and re-read them. ''I Am the Voice Left From Drinking'' and ''I am the Voice Left from Rehab'' are painfully honest books.
I also think they should do ''Barbados'' !
@@carebear-fm4pe Hi,
No I was never a Countdown kid. There were hardly any Countdown kids where I grew up. Just mostly surfers..
I also read his two books, but only after his death. Apparently he wasn't good around social environments where alcohol was present, and having his band inducted into the ARIA Hall Of Fame would be reason to celebrate. If you asked me as a teen who in the Australian music scene would likely unalive themselves, I'd probably guess Nick Cave because his songs are so bloody miserable. Not Paul Hester, Michael Hutchence or James Freud.
Their last one I noticed the prominence of the bass and I loved it , same here , great bass tone ✊everything was going great with this one till those pesky horns came in and ruined it slightly 🤦♂️.. overall I still quite like it and I’m a fan of that bass player now 👏
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Sir Jay i agree the horns sounded naff. I've been shot for this comment before but i stand ready to take another magazine of rounds BRASS IS FOR PUNKROCK ❤SKA ❤AND REGGAE ❤ everyone else leave it alone
I agree with the comment about the bass, great lines, but even better tone.
I responded to your comment about Carrie, but I think my comment has disappeared.
@@notanotherenigma7759 a fellow great bass ear I think 👌
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Aww dammit ! So frustrating when that happens 🤷♂️
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I think the horns section is what made me never really get into Hunters and Collectors. A mate who had one of their albums made a cassette tape of the album for me back in the mid to late 80's but I do not remember playing it too many times. But I quite like this song. Just do not love it as horns kind of spoil it for me. Horns fits more a KC and the Sunshine Band type of music but I do not like it so much this type of music.
What was the old Holden on side of road he was attending too? Is it some late 1960's or early 70's model?
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I can see where you're getting at with that riff. I keep thinking Led Zep or AC/DC. INXS were more my thing than these guys, though there's some H & C bangers I like.
It's weird, I'm a big pop girl but I much rather Hunters & Collectors early stuff over this. Too brooding and pissed off. Chrissy Amphlette angry about schools and her life, James Reyne angry about the ''fall of rome'', Mark Seymour that his girlfriend poked his breast-bone, DAAS angry at hippes.. let's be happy to do Models' slightly-less-angry ''Barbados''!
Singer Mark Seymour is brother of Crowded House bassplayer Nick. Mark's daughter as a podcast called The Second Estate Podcast. 😃😁😆😄😃😅 And I'm plugging it for reasons I do NOT knoooowwww... 😵💫 It's not bad if you like that Gen Z wokey pokey stuff.. 🤢🤮
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I just checked it out after reading your post. Mark's daughter reminds me of Hayley's daughter. Good on Mark for accepting his daughter's invite to be on her podcast. I couldn't imagine it being easy to be interviewed by your own relative. 🐕
@@liveitup67 She does have a bit of Dani's qualities! 😲
@@liveitup67 It's interesting.. It has that father and daughter on a podcast vibe. 🥸
@@madisonmelbourne7114 lol
Oh dear, this is awful