Propaganda live at Rotterdam is excellent.They sing Duel 1st then transition into Jewel with Susanne on vocals really Really good.Duel punked out awesome.
@@affinity-fk2ml Unfortunately, in the '80s it was common practice in Europe (and maybe the rest of the world) that acts performing on TV shows had faked playing to their recorded songs.
Suzanne era muy punkarra en la primera época de Propaganda. No sé si en otra televisión habrán hecho esta versión hard de Jewel. En el vídeo oficial Suzanne aparece hasta tocando el arpa...
this is absolutely the best version of this song; truth in intent, emotion and effect. You can, of course, disagree. You are entitled to your mistaken opinion.
I agree... and the recorded version is even better because when Claudia comes in at the end to sing the chorus her voice is such a contrast it's exquisite.
Freytag and Brücken were adorable on stage back then. It's nice to see the band were just as compelling live as in the studio. Why did they omit the synth flourish at the end? That's one of the best endings in music history!
This is ZTT stretching the mere 7 and a half songs that Propaganda wrote - plus 2 covers.... (I'm not counting Throbbing Gristles Discipline since that was never officially released) . Quite genius to earn a legacy that still lives on 40 years after having made that little!
waw la versión del Duel, suena tan difrerente que los españolitos se quedan pasmados, jajajaja, gracias por esta gran subida, rezumaba libertad por todos lados, 5✴✴✴✴✴
Que tiempos aquellos en los que en España se escuchaban bandas como Propaganda en programas de TV de música comercial. No como ahora que está invadida por la música tercermundista venida de letrinoamérica tipo reguetón y demás basura "sabrosona".
@@smartkitville7167totalmente! como se ha deteriorado el panorama musical y los shows, que pena con lo buenos que eran en esos años, creo duró hasta Música Si, luego vino la operación triunfo esa y más mier da
Aha, C. Brücken kann also in etwa so gut trommeln wie die Hupfdohle singen :P vvv Da kennt aber 1 Obst schlimme Worte :O butthurt? vvv Wie wärs mit erwachsen werden? vvv Deutsch Spragg und Rechschraibng lern? Nein?
What's with this 'industrialised' version of the song? Also this girl singer is sort of sexy but her voice is not as good as the regular Duel singer. The regular singer is on drums here I think...?
It was the b-side of Duel - an alternative version. There's an awesome version on the Wishful Thinking album that combines the two into a single track.
It's not industrial, it's just harder edged and frankly, more German. There was a problem with the debut coming out at the time and the "side" album Wishful Thinking" (a remixed version for clubs) actually was available first, and I consequently had that first and fell in love with it. When I finally got the debut I found it... a little tame by comparison. I still prefer Wishful Thinking. It's one of my favorite records and I listen to it all the time.
I wish it was a little rougher, its a great version, I dont have the music theory words to express what I think is a little off, but there are some positive musical parts to it, that still sound nice, they need to be in a different, uh, key?
@@malcg72 In interviews they told that at the very beginning, before Propaganda got famous, they made music by shouting words or sentences while drumming and playing march like music. I think this version of Duel displays some of those earlier ways.
Without this, there would no Rammstein. I genuinely believe that.
You can never play this song loud enough
For years & years & years I thought Duel was the best version. I was totally, totally wrong. This performance is on a f***ing other level. Wow!!!
one of the best song of the 80's
Simplemente brutal la fuerza de esta versión
Espectacular, me encanta. Lástima que es un playback. Me gustaría verla en vivo de verdad.
great lineup, awesome band
Propaganda live at Rotterdam is excellent.They sing Duel 1st then transition into Jewel with Susanne on vocals really Really good.Duel punked out awesome.
I love that Claudia is androgynous on drums here
Excelente. A partir del 2:58, simplemente espectacular
At that time I was soooo in Love with susanne freytag!
I still am...
Knew her from a far in Duesseldorf- truly cool
Espectacular!!! ❤
pretty cool. Nice to see Suzanne taking lead vocals and claudia doing drums and backing vocals. normally it's the other way around.
I agree with you. As you can see, Suzanne has a powerful voice!
@@affinity-fk2ml It's not her voice as it's a playback performance.
@@TasteControl Realy? This is ashame. Thanks for this notice.
@@affinity-fk2ml Unfortunately, in the '80s it was common practice in Europe (and maybe the rest of the world) that acts performing on TV shows had faked playing to their recorded songs.
@@TasteControl Playback with their own voices - I've known. But playback with an other voice - this is new for me. But thank you once more.
Genial. Me encanta
One of the greatest electronic songs they mix New wave, EDM and Industrial in one perfect
Good times beautiful Song
The masterpiece of Propaganda !!
Genial, me encanta.
This is so 80s it hurts 😀 Cracking tune, TGRR FTW
07/05/86..un dia antes de cumplir 20 años,el tiempo es veloz,tal cual dice una cancion de David Lebon
awesome, what a gem...!
Suzanne is such a babe
Susanne deserved more recognition, it's impressive the presence she has here, so bad that ZTT forgot about her
It's still Claudia singing here...but yes, Susanne has great presence!
@@morkygorky it´s not correct.
SUsanne is singing. CLaudia is on one of the drums in the background.
Muy buena!!!
Non sarebbe male una cover hard rock/heavy metal, spero che ne esiste già 🤟
suzanne is gorgeous
brilliant
Me gusta , una version mas punkosa de Duel
beautiful
This song appeared on Miami Vice. On the episode called "Theresa" from season 3.
i loved Susanne Freytag
Beautiful
I dont know who im more in love with susanne or this version.....both equally stunning....💪🇬🇧💪
Genial ! bien new wave !
suuuuuuuuper cooool
almost punk rock
Amazing
SHINING&SCARY! JEWEL&DUEL 6. WEEKS #1 LONDON unknowninUSA ..
this is fkin amazing.
Grey tag is gorgeous
agree 👍
Clever!
So cool, Claudia on drums
esto es un gran tema
Great great great...adrenaline
The perfect song for an intense workout
a 4 minute workout :p
❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wonderfull
Aww boo. They left out the synth explosion at the end of this jam. Such a great sound on the album version.
wow
esta version es fenomenal bien rocker
I seem to be in the minority because I like this version better.
Ditto. But I'm still of the opinion that they should be considered as different songs and not versions of each other.
It sounds like Marilyn Manson!!
Just great!!
Absolut hammer
Seems to be huge confusion about which song is which. It's quite simple really. Duel/Claudia. Jewel/Suzanne. Got it! Good! Let's move on.
Claudia sings, Suzanne speaks, Ralph writes words, Michael bangs objects.
*And God has spoken!*
Håkan Nellmar - And God saw that it was good
But on my original LP 'Jewel' was an instrumental. Far better, too.
Full synth 👍
Suzanne era muy punkarra en la primera época de Propaganda. No sé si en otra televisión habrán hecho esta versión hard de Jewel. En el vídeo oficial Suzanne aparece hasta tocando el arpa...
Es lo q me encanta de ella. Al presentador se vé q no jaja
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It's like the punk version of Duel.
this is absolutely the best version of this song; truth in intent, emotion and effect. You can, of course, disagree. You are entitled to your mistaken opinion.
I agree... and the recorded version is even better because when Claudia comes in at the end to sing the chorus her voice is such a contrast it's exquisite.
Otra version buena.
Clare Grogan's German cousin?
And we know which one got the looks ...
No Derek with them here not the same without him bopping about
Ich mag die Deutschen Damen. Suzanne und Claudia sind sehr schön. Beste grüsse aus Chile Südamerika.
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Exactly run 1/4 mile
Obsessed
No cabe duda que Suzanne era muy hermosa, pero Claudia tenia mejor voz de lejos.
How do we hear Claudia's voice? She does not appear to be wearing a mic like Susanne.
Miming ?
Lip-synching, like many tv shows
when you've been in a relationship for long enough, you'll begin to understand
Freytag and Brücken were adorable on stage back then. It's nice to see the band were just as compelling live as in the studio.
Why did they omit the synth flourish at the end? That's one of the best endings in music history!
Interesting, but I'm confused. Is this Propaganda in the very early days experimenting.
This is ZTT stretching the mere 7 and a half songs that Propaganda wrote - plus 2 covers.... (I'm not counting Throbbing Gristles Discipline since that was never officially released) .
Quite genius to earn a legacy that still lives on 40 years after having made that little!
Prefer the Claudia Version
Me too
waw la versión del Duel,
suena tan difrerente que los españolitos se quedan pasmados,
jajajaja, gracias por esta gran subida, rezumaba libertad por todos lados,
5✴✴✴✴✴
Que tiempos aquellos en los que en España se escuchaban bandas como Propaganda en programas de TV de música comercial. No como ahora que está invadida por la música tercermundista venida de letrinoamérica tipo reguetón y demás basura "sabrosona".
@@smartkitville7167totalmente! como se ha deteriorado el panorama musical y los shows, que pena con lo buenos que eran en esos años, creo duró hasta Música Si, luego vino la operación triunfo esa y más mier da
Aha, C. Brücken kann also in etwa so gut trommeln wie die Hupfdohle singen :P
vvv Da kennt aber 1 Obst schlimme Worte :O butthurt?
vvv Wie wärs mit erwachsen werden?
vvv Deutsch Spragg und Rechschraibng lern? Nein?
Maybe you are tooooo doof um das alles zu checken, you prolet from the problembezirk.
"hupfdohle" 🤣🤣
démentiel
Oh noes the fantastic end is cut. It abruptly stops before the thundering synths kick in.
Claudia sings this better.
They are really talented. Playing synthss with only a power cable. You luckily can't get away with playbacking anymore in 2022...
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She looks and sounds like she enjoys giving orders, if you know what i mean,
Didn't Claudia speak the vocals to this? It doesn't sound like Suzanne's.
It's still Claudias voice here...
Great ! this is "Duel" but with much punch and power paced, cheers from 🇲🇽
Prefiero la version de claudia
Esta es sólo una versión experimental
SPROCKETS
What's with this 'industrialised' version of the song? Also this girl singer is sort of sexy but her voice is not as good as the regular Duel singer. The regular singer is on drums here I think...?
It was the b-side of Duel - an alternative version. There's an awesome version on the Wishful Thinking album that combines the two into a single track.
It's not industrial, it's just harder edged and frankly, more German. There was a problem with the debut coming out at the time and the "side" album Wishful Thinking" (a remixed version for clubs) actually was available first, and I consequently had that first and fell in love with it. When I finally got the debut I found it... a little tame by comparison. I still prefer Wishful Thinking. It's one of my favorite records and I listen to it all the time.
too bad none of the gear is plugged in.
Duel in another version....more tribal...
No es Duel. Es Jewel
Duel is the song on this one is based....
This is a very German band but I've never heard them in German. By the way they killed this song...it's so much better then this....ugh.
You're obviously getting confused between Jewel and Duel, they're two different tracks which happen to have the same lyrics.
I thought that both were excellent songs. I love the tune of Duel, and the synth-led drive of Jewel.
@@malcg72 i love Art of Noise - Legs wit playing speed 1.25x :)
¡El título es 'Duel', no 'Jewel'!
Duel es otra versión. Esta se llama Jewel.
I wish it was a little rougher, its a great version, I dont have the music theory words to express what I think is a little off, but there are some positive musical parts to it, that still sound nice, they need to be in a different, uh, key?
kkkkkkkk
I think they were very underated but having found this I feel disappointed that Duel is the same as this `noise`
Jewel and Duel are different songs. They appear back-to-back on their only studio album
Isn’t that song “Duel”?....not “Jewel”
Duel 😂
Dreadful.How to ruin a great song.
This was just the b-side to Duel....
T H A T W A S H O R R I B L E ..... definitely not the proper sound of my "80's German heroes.............
Both were good songs, this has a great drive about it
@@malcg72
In interviews they told that at the very beginning, before Propaganda got famous, they made music by shouting words or sentences while drumming and playing march like music. I think this version of Duel displays some of those earlier ways.
Mejor cien mil veces el original
The other girl sings it way better
The color of the voice is quite ordinary ,no specific
Not as good as the original 😢😢😢....shame
this song got overplayed in France and it really made me hate it , probably a better version more rock
No me gusta para nada esta versión.
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