Propaganda "Jewel" Tocata 07-05-86

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  • @davewalkden7248
    @davewalkden7248 8 місяців тому +14

    Without this, there would no Rammstein. I genuinely believe that.

  • @allenp920
    @allenp920 Рік тому +24

    You can never play this song loud enough

  • @jesaf5
    @jesaf5 Рік тому +19

    For years & years & years I thought Duel was the best version. I was totally, totally wrong. This performance is on a f***ing other level. Wow!!!

  • @moky99
    @moky99 3 роки тому +20

    one of the best song of the 80's

  • @c4569
    @c4569 6 місяців тому +7

    Simplemente brutal la fuerza de esta versión

    • @gonzchi
      @gonzchi 3 місяці тому

      Espectacular, me encanta. Lástima que es un playback. Me gustaría verla en vivo de verdad.

  • @euromissiles2877
    @euromissiles2877 Рік тому +7

    great lineup, awesome band

  • @rickwhear4016
    @rickwhear4016 6 місяців тому +2

    Propaganda live at Rotterdam is excellent.They sing Duel 1st then transition into Jewel with Susanne on vocals really Really good.Duel punked out awesome.

  • @richardhutchings4324
    @richardhutchings4324 3 роки тому +17

    I love that Claudia is androgynous on drums here

  • @Xx-pg9do
    @Xx-pg9do Рік тому +6

    Excelente. A partir del 2:58, simplemente espectacular

  • @EdZimmerman
    @EdZimmerman 6 років тому +30

    At that time I was soooo in Love with susanne freytag!

  • @VJRoGeRsBS
    @VJRoGeRsBS 2 роки тому +6

    Espectacular!!! ❤

  • @seedhillbruisermusic7939
    @seedhillbruisermusic7939 2 роки тому +8

    pretty cool. Nice to see Suzanne taking lead vocals and claudia doing drums and backing vocals. normally it's the other way around.

    • @affinity-fk2ml
      @affinity-fk2ml 2 роки тому +1

      I agree with you. As you can see, Suzanne has a powerful voice!

    • @TasteControl
      @TasteControl 2 роки тому +1

      @@affinity-fk2ml It's not her voice as it's a playback performance.

    • @affinity-fk2ml
      @affinity-fk2ml 2 роки тому +1

      @@TasteControl Realy? This is ashame. Thanks for this notice.

    • @TasteControl
      @TasteControl 2 роки тому +1

      @@affinity-fk2ml Unfortunately, in the '80s it was common practice in Europe (and maybe the rest of the world) that acts performing on TV shows had faked playing to their recorded songs.

    • @affinity-fk2ml
      @affinity-fk2ml 2 роки тому +2

      @@TasteControl Playback with their own voices - I've known. But playback with an other voice - this is new for me. But thank you once more.

  • @toniherrera6682
    @toniherrera6682 6 років тому +9

    Genial. Me encanta

  • @ramaarguello4104
    @ramaarguello4104 2 місяці тому

    One of the greatest electronic songs they mix New wave, EDM and Industrial in one perfect

  • @j.f644
    @j.f644 5 років тому +6

    Good times beautiful Song

  • @didierpuisset4955
    @didierpuisset4955 2 роки тому +3

    The masterpiece of Propaganda !!

  • @lourdesdelgado8775
    @lourdesdelgado8775 Рік тому +3

    Genial, me encanta.

  • @OliverPrime
    @OliverPrime 3 роки тому +2

    This is so 80s it hurts 😀 Cracking tune, TGRR FTW

  • @chelonfire
    @chelonfire 4 роки тому +3

    07/05/86..un dia antes de cumplir 20 años,el tiempo es veloz,tal cual dice una cancion de David Lebon

  • @lemmi1968
    @lemmi1968 Рік тому +2

    awesome, what a gem...!

  • @graemefarquharson465
    @graemefarquharson465 2 роки тому +5

    Suzanne is such a babe

  • @p-machinery
    @p-machinery Рік тому +10

    Susanne deserved more recognition, it's impressive the presence she has here, so bad that ZTT forgot about her

    • @morkygorky
      @morkygorky 6 місяців тому

      It's still Claudia singing here...but yes, Susanne has great presence!

    • @Mi62Ni
      @Mi62Ni 7 днів тому

      @@morkygorky it´s not correct.
      SUsanne is singing. CLaudia is on one of the drums in the background.

  • @giampaolocataldi6291
    @giampaolocataldi6291 7 місяців тому +2

    Muy buena!!!

  • @MrEros2111
    @MrEros2111 3 роки тому +1

    Non sarebbe male una cover hard rock/heavy metal, spero che ne esiste già 🤟

  • @gouvyrock
    @gouvyrock 2 роки тому +4

    suzanne is gorgeous

  • @999kps
    @999kps 7 років тому +15

    brilliant

  • @chachopaisdead
    @chachopaisdead 4 роки тому +7

    Me gusta , una version mas punkosa de Duel

  • @asasasastopastopis5605
    @asasasastopastopis5605 5 років тому +5

    beautiful

  • @josetunez9584
    @josetunez9584 Рік тому

    This song appeared on Miami Vice. On the episode called "Theresa" from season 3.

  • @ronaldsistemas128
    @ronaldsistemas128 6 місяців тому +2

    i loved Susanne Freytag

  • @DecentralEyes
    @DecentralEyes 2 роки тому +3

    Beautiful

  • @carlhansford6880
    @carlhansford6880 5 місяців тому

    I dont know who im more in love with susanne or this version.....both equally stunning....💪🇬🇧💪

  • @psykobeat2012
    @psykobeat2012 6 років тому +5

    Genial ! bien new wave !

  • @1988Trinity
    @1988Trinity 6 років тому +4

    suuuuuuuuper cooool

  • @urmo345
    @urmo345 3 роки тому +4

    almost punk rock

  • @chrishamilton9775
    @chrishamilton9775 3 роки тому +3

    Amazing

  • @JackParker-ql1dp
    @JackParker-ql1dp Місяць тому +1

    SHINING&SCARY! JEWEL&DUEL 6. WEEKS #1 LONDON unknowninUSA ..

  • @esseel7896
    @esseel7896 Рік тому +2

    this is fkin amazing.

  • @tomvarley4344
    @tomvarley4344 7 років тому +10

    Grey tag is gorgeous

  • @NeilVanceNeilVance
    @NeilVanceNeilVance 5 років тому +3

    Clever!

  • @martin_minimalwave
    @martin_minimalwave Рік тому

    So cool, Claudia on drums

  • @OnlyGoodMusic_
    @OnlyGoodMusic_ 4 місяці тому

    esto es un gran tema

  • @martin_minimalwave
    @martin_minimalwave Рік тому +3

    Great great great...adrenaline

  • @darrenharris8195
    @darrenharris8195 3 роки тому +2

    The perfect song for an intense workout

    • @morkygorky
      @morkygorky 6 місяців тому

      a 4 minute workout :p

  • @christinedupre2450
    @christinedupre2450 Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @w.v.i.santospiritoroma3117
    @w.v.i.santospiritoroma3117 5 місяців тому

    Wonderfull

  • @Danimal1577
    @Danimal1577 7 років тому +21

    Aww boo. They left out the synth explosion at the end of this jam. Such a great sound on the album version.

  • @Begemot333
    @Begemot333 7 місяців тому +1

    wow

  • @Laveig292
    @Laveig292 4 місяці тому

    esta version es fenomenal bien rocker

  • @sweiland75
    @sweiland75 4 роки тому +5

    I seem to be in the minority because I like this version better.

    • @22Phantasm
      @22Phantasm 4 роки тому +3

      Ditto. But I'm still of the opinion that they should be considered as different songs and not versions of each other.

    • @petercrawley7272
      @petercrawley7272 3 роки тому

      It sounds like Marilyn Manson!!

  • @oskarwow
    @oskarwow 3 місяці тому

    Just great!!

  • @mikeburkitt1187
    @mikeburkitt1187 2 роки тому +1

    Absolut hammer

  • @veganbeetle
    @veganbeetle 6 років тому +24

    Seems to be huge confusion about which song is which. It's quite simple really. Duel/Claudia. Jewel/Suzanne. Got it! Good! Let's move on.

    • @hakannellmar5262
      @hakannellmar5262 3 роки тому +3

      Claudia sings, Suzanne speaks, Ralph writes words, Michael bangs objects.
      *And God has spoken!*

    • @bluespoon1969
      @bluespoon1969 3 роки тому +1

      Håkan Nellmar - And God saw that it was good

    • @Jhensy2012
      @Jhensy2012 3 роки тому

      But on my original LP 'Jewel' was an instrumental. Far better, too.

  • @alejandropizarro3970
    @alejandropizarro3970 Рік тому +1

    Full synth 👍

  • @angelrogo
    @angelrogo 7 років тому +13

    Suzanne era muy punkarra en la primera época de Propaganda. No sé si en otra televisión habrán hecho esta versión hard de Jewel. En el vídeo oficial Suzanne aparece hasta tocando el arpa...

    • @Kronopina
      @Kronopina Рік тому +2

      Es lo q me encanta de ella. Al presentador se vé q no jaja

  • @rallyivan1234
    @rallyivan1234 6 років тому +6

    RAC Rally

  • @sevensolaris
    @sevensolaris 2 місяці тому

    It's like the punk version of Duel.

  • @Ba-pb8ul
    @Ba-pb8ul 2 роки тому +3

    this is absolutely the best version of this song; truth in intent, emotion and effect. You can, of course, disagree. You are entitled to your mistaken opinion.

    • @56squadron
      @56squadron 2 роки тому +1

      I agree... and the recorded version is even better because when Claudia comes in at the end to sing the chorus her voice is such a contrast it's exquisite.

  • @ronnygch1723
    @ronnygch1723 3 роки тому +1

    Otra version buena.

  • @TheAlistairDick
    @TheAlistairDick 6 років тому +8

    Clare Grogan's German cousin?

    • @79devo
      @79devo 5 років тому +2

      And we know which one got the looks ...

  • @colinblackshaw2198
    @colinblackshaw2198 4 роки тому +1

    No Derek with them here not the same without him bopping about

  • @demostenes8771
    @demostenes8771 10 місяців тому

    Ich mag die Deutschen Damen. Suzanne und Claudia sind sehr schön. Beste grüsse aus Chile Südamerika.

  • @Fedaykin24
    @Fedaykin24 4 роки тому +7

    Welcome to Top Gear Rally report...

  • @fgrind1
    @fgrind1 3 роки тому

    Obsessed

  • @paolocesar9385
    @paolocesar9385 2 роки тому +5

    No cabe duda que Suzanne era muy hermosa, pero Claudia tenia mejor voz de lejos.

  • @sweiland75
    @sweiland75 4 роки тому +1

    How do we hear Claudia's voice? She does not appear to be wearing a mic like Susanne.

    • @kps1961
      @kps1961 4 роки тому +1

      Miming ?

    • @Danimal1577
      @Danimal1577 3 роки тому +1

      Lip-synching, like many tv shows

    • @Ba-pb8ul
      @Ba-pb8ul 3 роки тому +1

      when you've been in a relationship for long enough, you'll begin to understand

  • @thetriumphofthethrill2457
    @thetriumphofthethrill2457 3 роки тому +3

    Freytag and Brücken were adorable on stage back then. It's nice to see the band were just as compelling live as in the studio.
    Why did they omit the synth flourish at the end? That's one of the best endings in music history!

  • @paulgillbanks2111
    @paulgillbanks2111 6 років тому +1

    Interesting, but I'm confused. Is this Propaganda in the very early days experimenting.

    • @morkygorky
      @morkygorky 6 місяців тому

      This is ZTT stretching the mere 7 and a half songs that Propaganda wrote - plus 2 covers.... (I'm not counting Throbbing Gristles Discipline since that was never officially released) .
      Quite genius to earn a legacy that still lives on 40 years after having made that little!

  • @adamwheeldon
    @adamwheeldon 6 років тому +8

    Prefer the Claudia Version

  • @xulete007
    @xulete007 4 роки тому +7

    waw la versión del Duel,
    suena tan difrerente que los españolitos se quedan pasmados,
    jajajaja, gracias por esta gran subida, rezumaba libertad por todos lados,
    5✴✴✴✴✴

    • @smartkitville7167
      @smartkitville7167 Рік тому +2

      Que tiempos aquellos en los que en España se escuchaban bandas como Propaganda en programas de TV de música comercial. No como ahora que está invadida por la música tercermundista venida de letrinoamérica tipo reguetón y demás basura "sabrosona".

    • @xulete007
      @xulete007 Рік тому

      @@smartkitville7167totalmente! como se ha deteriorado el panorama musical y los shows, que pena con lo buenos que eran en esos años, creo duró hasta Música Si, luego vino la operación triunfo esa y más mier da

  • @s1imefish
    @s1imefish 6 років тому +3

    Aha, C. Brücken kann also in etwa so gut trommeln wie die Hupfdohle singen :P
    vvv Da kennt aber 1 Obst schlimme Worte :O butthurt?
    vvv Wie wärs mit erwachsen werden?
    vvv Deutsch Spragg und Rechschraibng lern? Nein?

    • @EdZimmerman
      @EdZimmerman 6 років тому +1

      Maybe you are tooooo doof um das alles zu checken, you prolet from the problembezirk.

    • @morkygorky
      @morkygorky 6 місяців тому

      "hupfdohle" 🤣🤣

  • @dansLeDivinVouloirjeTM
    @dansLeDivinVouloirjeTM 10 місяців тому

    démentiel

  • @Jauly
    @Jauly 5 місяців тому

    Oh noes the fantastic end is cut. It abruptly stops before the thundering synths kick in.

  • @thetiktokman
    @thetiktokman 3 роки тому +1

    Claudia sings this better.

  • @Johannes_DC
    @Johannes_DC 2 роки тому +2

    They are really talented. Playing synthss with only a power cable. You luckily can't get away with playbacking anymore in 2022...

  • @defenderchile8399
    @defenderchile8399 3 роки тому +5

    Vídeo Libre de soya y progress

  • @halloweenville1
    @halloweenville1 2 роки тому +4

    She looks and sounds like she enjoys giving orders, if you know what i mean,

  • @Kerlimann
    @Kerlimann Рік тому

    Didn't Claudia speak the vocals to this? It doesn't sound like Suzanne's.

    • @morkygorky
      @morkygorky 6 місяців тому

      It's still Claudias voice here...

  • @drums554
    @drums554 11 місяців тому

    Great ! this is "Duel" but with much punch and power paced, cheers from 🇲🇽

  • @alejandromunoz6983
    @alejandromunoz6983 5 років тому +1

    Prefiero la version de claudia

  • @paulcolbourne5555
    @paulcolbourne5555 3 роки тому

    SPROCKETS

  • @kevinindublin
    @kevinindublin 4 роки тому +1

    What's with this 'industrialised' version of the song? Also this girl singer is sort of sexy but her voice is not as good as the regular Duel singer. The regular singer is on drums here I think...?

    • @jeromekbeelzebub4172
      @jeromekbeelzebub4172 2 роки тому +2

      It was the b-side of Duel - an alternative version. There's an awesome version on the Wishful Thinking album that combines the two into a single track.

    • @56squadron
      @56squadron 2 роки тому

      It's not industrial, it's just harder edged and frankly, more German. There was a problem with the debut coming out at the time and the "side" album Wishful Thinking" (a remixed version for clubs) actually was available first, and I consequently had that first and fell in love with it. When I finally got the debut I found it... a little tame by comparison. I still prefer Wishful Thinking. It's one of my favorite records and I listen to it all the time.

  • @scottreiter8302
    @scottreiter8302 Рік тому

    too bad none of the gear is plugged in.

  • @joaoguimaraes4993
    @joaoguimaraes4993 2 роки тому

    Duel in another version....more tribal...

  • @bobdoubter2977
    @bobdoubter2977 5 років тому +3

    This is a very German band but I've never heard them in German. By the way they killed this song...it's so much better then this....ugh.

    • @tobygroves2112
      @tobygroves2112 5 років тому +3

      You're obviously getting confused between Jewel and Duel, they're two different tracks which happen to have the same lyrics.

    • @malcg72
      @malcg72 5 років тому +4

      I thought that both were excellent songs. I love the tune of Duel, and the synth-led drive of Jewel.

    • @vladimir66cz45
      @vladimir66cz45 2 роки тому

      @@malcg72 i love Art of Noise - Legs wit playing speed 1.25x :)

  • @elfeling7187
    @elfeling7187 2 роки тому

    ¡El título es 'Duel', no 'Jewel'!

    • @Xx-pg9do
      @Xx-pg9do 8 місяців тому

      Duel es otra versión. Esta se llama Jewel.

  • @dorianleakey
    @dorianleakey 11 місяців тому

    I wish it was a little rougher, its a great version, I dont have the music theory words to express what I think is a little off, but there are some positive musical parts to it, that still sound nice, they need to be in a different, uh, key?

  • @liuchalenger6448
    @liuchalenger6448 10 місяців тому +1

    kkkkkkkk

  • @cwiw12
    @cwiw12 6 років тому +1

    I think they were very underated but having found this I feel disappointed that Duel is the same as this `noise`

    • @Danimal1577
      @Danimal1577 3 роки тому +2

      Jewel and Duel are different songs. They appear back-to-back on their only studio album

  • @williamarrascue2369
    @williamarrascue2369 Рік тому +1

    Isn’t that song “Duel”?....not “Jewel”

  • @garethjudd5840
    @garethjudd5840 8 місяців тому

    Duel 😂

  • @haydoncooper3744
    @haydoncooper3744 2 роки тому

    Dreadful.How to ruin a great song.

    • @morkygorky
      @morkygorky 6 місяців тому +1

      This was just the b-side to Duel....

  • @63snampook
    @63snampook 5 років тому +1

    T H A T W A S H O R R I B L E ..... definitely not the proper sound of my "80's German heroes.............

    • @malcg72
      @malcg72 5 років тому +3

      Both were good songs, this has a great drive about it

    • @Wuppie62
      @Wuppie62 4 роки тому +3

      @@malcg72
      In interviews they told that at the very beginning, before Propaganda got famous, they made music by shouting words or sentences while drumming and playing march like music. I think this version of Duel displays some of those earlier ways.

  • @benjulius6075
    @benjulius6075 3 роки тому

    Mejor cien mil veces el original

  • @henrysworld3143
    @henrysworld3143 3 роки тому +1

    The other girl sings it way better

  • @ivicamarin2883
    @ivicamarin2883 Рік тому

    The color of the voice is quite ordinary ,no specific

  • @markburns2545
    @markburns2545 6 місяців тому

    Not as good as the original 😢😢😢....shame

  • @christophemeasson5190
    @christophemeasson5190 Рік тому

    this song got overplayed in France and it really made me hate it , probably a better version more rock

  • @juliocesarcondorisupo5115
    @juliocesarcondorisupo5115 2 роки тому

    No me gusta para nada esta versión.

  • @LuisFernandez-tj9fe
    @LuisFernandez-tj9fe Рік тому +1

    LA ANDROIDE NUMERO 18 CANTÁNDOOOO