Are You Using Feeler Gauges To Set Up Guitars? You Are A Hack And Ripping People Off!
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leave it to Stewmac to take a 20 dollar dial depth gauge and turn into a 115 dollar tool.
Exactly…then charge another $20. delivery.😂
and then pay a UA-camr to insult his viewers and push an unneeded waste of money. StewMac are overpriced on all things.
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@@TexasToastGuitars Really no excuse to call people hacks and insult people. If someone was in my house talking like that I would set em straight real quick. I set up my guitars by eye don't need a damned thing. I been doing it so long and you know damned well you get to a point were you can do some things in your sleep. I know it is more complex but the point is calling people names is a bitch move.
PS Cool thing tool though.
I kinda feel like (if this were pre-partnership with StewMac) feeler gauges and going by look/feel would have been totally fine. It's cool, but an expensive overkill when in the end it comes down to personal feel and preference anyways.
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Exactly so numbers are meaningless. These arguments are usually from people who DONT play guitar. I am a guitar player and performer. I can set up my own guitar. Never had an issue. Maybe paid a tech a couple times due to a busy schedule.
Ahh, I remember the "luthier" wars in my area. If only they set up guitars as good and fast as they shot their mouth off about the other "luthiers". Most "luthiers like this guy are nothing more than guitar techs with enough knowledge to be dangerous to themselves and others..
You would need that tool, nut files, hex keys, truss rod wrenches maybe, and a notched straight edge as well as screw drivers at the very least. So, no, sorry, you cant just get that tool and do your own setups for the cost of one setup from a tech.
And by the way, if you own a guitar and a bass guitar, you need a different brass bottom, effectively doubling the cost of that tool.
Is it accurate, sure is. I use a digital gage myself... one I got from LMI that will do any stringed instrument. But, the nutting slotting tool is a great way to make sure you don't over file the nut slots and go too deep. ESPECIALLY, if you are just doing your own guitars. Its very easy to go way too deep and mess up the nut if you aren't careful. I use the nut slotting tool, then finish off with the digital gauge.
I also use a feeler gage for the relief. And no, you don't have to have any relief, but it depends on your playing style. Finger pickers who play hard cause more vibration in the strings and need relief to prevent fret buzz. Heavy Metal players how have a very light pick attack, need little to no relief, because the light touch combined with the heavy distortion isn't bothered but a little string buzz.
Also, using the digital gauge while laying flat causes the plunger to depress the string a little bit, so you have to compensate for that. If you noticed, after you zeroed out the gauge and let it up, it still was down .5 to 1.5 on the gauge. This means your nut slot is going to be lower that anticipated. It's not an issue as long as you compensate for that. In addition, when you press down on the plunger, you are adding a tiny bit of pressure on the neck, causing it to bend slightly unless well supported underneath. When you showed the nut slot, it wasn't well supported.
At any rate, they are great tools for setups and far more accurate than a feeler gauge for sure, but, there is no way buying one of those is going to allow you to do your guitar setups cheaper than taking it to someone, unless you have a lot of guitars that need regular setups.
So to say someone who uses feeler gauges are wrong, and someone that puts relief in a guitar neck is wrong, really brings into question your methods. What is good for one player, may be horrible for another player. There is no wrong, just different. Especially since many people measure nut height by pressing down the third fret position and measuring the first fret. Many others will capo the first fret when measuring action at the 12th. There are even different methods of measuring neck relief. To say any one method is wrong, is just arrogant
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I'm a little skeptic about that. I tend to do string height adjustments on playing position because gravity pushes strings downwards when guitar is on its back. This can especially be seen on bass guitars! I also believe that the plunger affects on string height with that tool so its not a real zero when you zero it and leaves strings actually higher from frets than adjusted. Pretty tool anyways but i dont see anything wrong with feeler gauges either.
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Yes, that happens. Have You mesure the diferente between both?
I've always setup my own guitars, starting in 1966 when I started playing. It was self defense as I had barely enough money to buy a Univox guitar on mail order. Most recently I have a 2006 PRS Santana SE. Got it used and just didn't warm up to it. I had an excellent luthier set it up and it still didn't feel good. Then I saw a Joe Walsh video for Gibson where he setup a Les Paul completely using just a screwdriver. He must have perfect pitch for the intonation part. Level the frets with a straightedge and the truss rod. Lower the strings until they sit on the frets. Raise the strings up until they don't buzz unless it's a Fender type with is supposed to rattle a bit. Joe did that and the end result was a great sound and he was happy with the string height etc. I setup my PRS that way and now it's my favorite guitar. (Please do a video on pickup height and sound!) The stock pickups are too loud but instead of spending a bundle to replace them, I just cranked them way down and slowly raised them up, listening to the string balance. It sounds like a 8K Gibson Humbucker now and is perfect for jazz and blues! My friends like to play it also!
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I think I saw that same Joe Walsh video, he seemed like he was shitfaced and the whole thing was a complete shambles but the part that stuck with me was when he intonated it by ear. Obviously guitar techs have been doing a good job without this tool for decades but if a pro won't invest in this faster, more accurate tool it does seem like kind of a red flag.
After all, Gibson has been using the StewMac Digital Gauge since 1894.
"For all those people who aren't completely terrified of using the right tool". . .you must be talking about StewMac using you, you tool! The only difference between the two methods is how much money you shove down StewMacs pockets. Here's the truth, no player on earth can tell which one, IF EITHER, that you used! Im sure your setups are fantastic, im also sure mine are too! I know, i play them every day. Even the ones that i did with no gauges at all feel and sound fantastic. So i guess im a "HACK", but thats better and more honest than being a TOOL! NICE SHIRT! Did they give you alot of those?
He did a nice StewMac commercial but nothing else. Just trying to sell something you don't need while insulting people that he thinks are idiots.
@@RsSquier51 Exactly right! But what do i know, im a hack. A hack with a collection of beautiful guitars that play like butter.
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Set ups will usually conform to factory specs. An important factor that many overlook is how heavy or light the player's touch is. You must keep this in mind when performing a set up for someone else. I also use the dial indicator for nut slotting. The relief gauge is cool if you're a person who prefers a specific amount of relief. I have a particular action height for my personal guitars, which is quite simple to read with a rule marked in 1/64th inch increments. I measure my action at the 14th fret. This is just my personal method. As for my neck relief: I keep it as straight as I can without inducing fret buzz. Again this is largely dependent on the touch of the player. This is a good reason to learn how to set up your own guitars/basses.
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Sorry Buddy. Guitar players are the only group that think the pinnacle of technology was in the 1950s. If Leo Fender used feeler gauges - by God I'm gonna use 'em too!
Well, there is that
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Back in the good days we used carburetors
Feeler gauges are still used by mechanics, which is how I was easily able to obtain a cheap set locally. No Stew Mac required.
I play bass and guitar here in CO and I do my own setups. It doesn't take me but a few minutes the old fashioned way, even when I have to pop the neck on a Fender.
Once you setup an instrument to personal spec, you should only have to adjust the neck until the action is back to the proper height (in most maintenance cases.) I usually only have to fiddle with nuts and saddles on the initial setup.
Cool little doodad though!
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Feeler gauges are fine in between two surfaces like a valve and a rocker arm. Its a closed space. The reason this is better is you don't have to fumble with feeler gauges and getting a FALSE angle on them ruining the measurement.
Feeler gauges cost less than €10.- at Tool Station. In China they cost €3.-
You don't need a $115.- digital special tool.
It is also possible to use picks as feeler gauges.
Okay, at 0:44,, Matt clearly doesn't understand that the StewMac Safe Slot Nut Guard will keep you from cutting too low, because the nut file or sawblade will bottom out against the feeler gauge. When you're cutting the slots to rough depth, you can easily go too far with the dial indicator Nut Slotting Gauge, especially if you're using a Blitz sawblade. But, if you're close, then yes, the dial indicator is fantastic. And, for general setup work, the dial indicator Nut Slotting Gauge is the bomb diggity. The fact that Matt doesn't realize the different uses for these two tools makes me question his judgment.
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Thanks for your opinion. It all comes down to how good of an engineer are you?
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That caliper tool is a fix to a problem that doesn’t exist. A simple string gauge or feeler gauges work just fine. Glad your getting paid to sell Stew Mac’s expensive tools. JMHO
Truth
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It’s a measuring device - like any other, in its basic functions. The video title is just click-bait - you could just have shown off your new toy without insulting everyone else out there!
Congratulations... you cracked the UA-cam title code.
Yes.
Try this: Zero the indicator with the string bottomed out to the fret, and when you adjust the saddle, you can read the height as you go. Also, how much does the plunger push down on the string? My old dial indicator is unusable for this because of that reason.
exactly, and exactly!
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@@TexasToastGuitars I'm glad you liked my zero-out idea. I wound up too getting off work too late to watch the live, but I did watch last night. I may have to get one of their indicators (only $61 or so) since it works by gravity. That wasn't clear to me in the first video, and I presumed it was spring-loaded. Great video, Matt, and great reply video, Matt and Chris. One day I'll have enough saved up for a bass build visit.
I set up my guitars by myself by eye and feel..
I dial them in perfect to me..
I swap and trade guitars and no one has ever complained about the way my guitars are setup.. 😂
Exactly. Even if you paid someone to set it up they'll properly ask you to check the guitar during the setup, because it should be set to the player. Not a spec sheet.
Just call Matt ...... the new Stew-mac shill... love your videos but how much is TT's cut of product sales... sad to see.
Sad to see?
In this video I specifically tell you NOT to buy a StewMac tool.
I have said repeatedly that I sold StewMac stuff before I was an affiliate and will do so after they drop me.
@@TexasToastGuitars Agreed, I have the exact same tools... yes I bought the Safe slot, which I used 3 times and the gauges are...well not the best, scored all up, so i got the Digital nut gauge and i do like it better, it is more accurate and easier.. no complaints. Think I was the tone of the video i guess.. understood you don't like feeler gauges, but just like anything else there always a different way to get your point across. I just do local setups and minor repairs so my opinion is nothing as I am not a professional luthier and usually don't charge but for the parts.
I have to maintain guitars, basses and ukuleles. I was taught doing it with feeler gauges. When working on some stuff recently, it just occurred to me how there has to be a better method as the feeler gauge method just felt sloppy. Then I found this. Now my problem is I'm waiting for it to get back in stock. It may be a bit expensive yet I know it will pay for itself by making set-ups take less time, more accurate and consistent.
In a game of metal and wood, chasing 0.0001" is fruitless. Everything moves, wears, expands, and contracts, and if you manage to get it dialed in exactly to the number you're chasing, it won't stay there for long. For my money, if my customer is happy and I can repeat the setup with the tools I have then they're the tools I need. A dial indicator is a cool piece of gear, and for those chasing numbers it's an excellent tool. Feeler gauges are working fine for me! :) I'd like to hear your thoughts on neck relief though!
Hi my friend, thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it. I think you are right about chasing wood and metal. I also think that feeler gauges should only be used when measuring things that move less than guitar strings. I'm trying to over type this but it's hard. Anyway... feeler gauges are designed to measure the distance between objects that don't move, whereas the dial indicator takes advantage of this movement.
As for neck relief, I'm going to say something that is as unpopular as the feeler gauge thing. There should be no neck relief at all. The neck should be dead flat.
Pretty cool tool! I got a method that cost 0$ - NADA! A US Nickel is .775 thick which is just under 2mm. If you lay a nickel across the High A fret (span the 2 frets) and bottom each string out on the Nickel you will have action that will allow bending up 3 tones and is much easier than using ANY DEVICE because the nickel just lays there.
I'm going to chase down this technique on my 8 string. Thanks. I'll get back if it is difficult.
@@hotchow8766 Have a height adjust tool and just lay the nickel across the A fret an lower the height so that it just touches the nickel BUT doesn't DRAG if you slide it under the string. Hope it works for ya!
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really?? It's like saying that if you see a technician with glasses, run away and grab one who did a laser because he will see better
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you can buy a cheap digital tire tread depth for around 3$ and easily modify it to do the same thing as that StewMac gauge. have a look at the RectifyMaster digital action gauge.
I don't have one. I don't really need one either. Just a thought though. When adjusting action, can you zero it with the string pressed down? If so, the saddle adjustment would be just lowering it to the required action height...
I have always done this by feel. 😂
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Overkill...sure its very precise...but guitars are wood...and wood moves....set it up, play it for a week...then check your measurements again...they won't be the same. Don't get me wrong, its a very nice.. very precise tool....but unnecessary.
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maybe it's not "professional" but I get good results for myself using a thin tapered hardwood wedge with calibrated lines on it at .5 mm intervals and let it drop between string and fret in the playing position. it's quick and simple , and accurate enough for my purposes.
Matt, have you ever compared readings between your bench setup and with the guitar in the playing position?
same with tuning, in a way. when we tune our guitars we tune it while the thing is not being played (open strings) yet when we play and the strings are `fretted` you get another `reading` . Depending on how well, or not well your axe is set up, tuning in the traditional way may not work in the real world of playing. An in tune guitar may not be so much when your actally playing. Guitar is inherently a flawed instrument as far as perfect tuning.
Good point. I always measure from the playing position. Even grumpy ol' Dave had to eventually admit that there's a difference.
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I seen a few other videos on this. They said you're suppose to press down on the string on each side of the guage to get the proper reading. And the guitar is suppose to be in playing position when checking the height on the 12th fret. I have a LMI digital guage for that.
Thanks for Another Stew Mac commercial! (As Seen On UA-cam)
PS: I don't hate you, I just dismiss your for profit views.
I totally agree because when you put the Feel a gauge specially on the high e you probably lifted up the string and you don't even know it with that digital gauge as soon as it hits a string it's going to start showing the degrees !
If you happen have a guitar shop, that thing pays for itself immediately. Consistency is key.
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You rule Gary
Serenity Now! Serenity Now! Serenity Now! Tell it like it is brother! I'm with you. And if you have a dial gauge already Philadelphia Luthier Tools and Supply has the brass base for $22. I use my dial gauge from Harbor Freight with it.
Serenity is a terrific feeling... just buy the right tool. Hell, I have 6 or 7 of them
If you have 6 or 7 of them then send me one you rich sob. Some of us are just hobbyists who can't afford every tool you suggest. A $3 set of feeler gauges from autozone get pretty close. And maybe you shouldn't insult people who try to add to your community. Lay off the sauce when you reply.@@TexasToastGuitars
I can see this being useful for nut height but I always set the low E string to be around 1.5 mm and base the rest of the setup on that if its not buzzing. This tool is great if you own a Texas Toast guitar that has perfectly level frets but if you own an import guitar or any Fender it will be tough to dial in the correct string height due to the uneven frets and buzzing. I urge every serious player and hobbyist to learn how to level and crown so you can truly experience what a great playing guitar feels like because it's not what comes from Fender which leads to my next question. Where is the Texas Toast designed tool set for us numbnuts who want to work on our own guitars? Fret leveling and crowning kit, nut files, fret rocker, and include that slick string height gauge please.
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you sold me. i would love a setup video or two on that stew mac gauge. hell, i'm gonna go crazy and sub to your channel
LOL, a stewmac comercial. if your paid by commision, and used that fumbally string gauge your losing money. if your shop is paying the tech using that gauge your losing money. you have shown in the video it takes a lot longer to adjust one string height. also if your paying someone to do your setups, (because you don't know how to do them) and get that gauge. your stateing now since you have that gauge you can setup your own guitar. your also being very condescending to the ones that don't use your newly obtained gauge. . . . i do admit im just a part time hack guitar tech and builder. i don't have all your experience or knowledge on building guitars. i also believe i would probably learn 100 new ways to do the job properly, if i took some of your classes.
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Video on set ups would be great!
That might take a couple hours. It would be cool to set a video for each step of the setup.
I think that could be good too
I picked one up matt , it sure is nice! I got one off eBay it’s a Philadelphia luthier brand , 69$ and just as nice as the stew Mac !
I was thinking of trying out my spark plug feeler gauge. Do you think I should do this?
Anyone else notice that it was NOT zeroed out after release? A feeler gauge can't lie (if done right) but a digital can (as we saw here). There is never just 1 right way to do most anything, but you just keep believing that. Also you might not want to insult your viewers just because you feel superior. Lost a subscriber.
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Nope. I never give Stew-Mac a cent of my cash. Over priced and over hyped crap, two thirds of which no one needs.
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Ha! still shoot 1911's, some designs are timeless. As most of us guitarist can relate to that haha. What are you packin Toast Master? Haha. Also, thanks for the tips and tricks, I appreciate your almost no bullshit approach to luthier work. Rock & Roll brother!
I still love to shoot my 1911s
It's a cool looking Tool Matt !
But, is spending $122.40 USD really necessary, for getting a decent Setup on String Action ? 🤔
How many Thousandths of an Inch, does every Texas Toast Guitar, ship out the Door with ? 🙄
I really wonder why they market this gauge as a nut slot gauge and not an all around string height gauge. Bought one of these to set a nut in a guitar and have been using it for everything ever since. Wouldn’t use anything else.
I still see that gorgeous looking Explorer there in the back and I so want to see a video on that!
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No doubt its a great tool Matt (although over priced). If I owned a shop doing multiple setups every day, it would probably pay for itself pretty quick. When I only do a setup once a month or less, I can't justify $175AU vs $15 (set of feelers and an action gauge). In your case you're building guitars so want them all to be consistent when they go out the door. Every guitarist is different and may require different settings depending on how they play.
Besides I can do setups for that price on both bass and guitar - the Stewmac gauge I'd need two.
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i just measured an .060 feeler gage w my dial indicator. it measured .0601.. id say its az accurate as it needs to be.. next.
I'm sure it's good to go
i use dial indicators mounted on surface plates for certain measurements.. find them cumbersome for others..
I hear you, sometimes they are a lot to work with
Can this be used to measure neck relief at 7th fret if guitar is capoed at first fret and am holding string down where it meets the body?
I bought both of those. ( although it is the dial one ) and I agree the dial / digital gauge is so much better 💜💜💜💜💜💜 Sarah
I like the dial one too, quite a bit
I think you are miss speaking when you say a reading of say .060 is the distance between the top of the fret and bottom of the string. It is actually the distance from the top of the fret to the TOP of the string!!! The thickness of the string must be subtracted from this reading to get the distance from top of fret to BOTTOM of the string.
I have and use both tools; feeler gauges and the digital string height gauge. They're both useful and don't serve the perfectly same overlapping purpose. I might be a hack but I'm not ripping anyone off; that's impossible.
I'm sure you are a nice guy
@@TexasToastGuitars 😂🤣 Depends on what time it is.
Yes do the setup video that would be amazing.
Hey, what are you saying about black and white TV, you need a pair of rabbit ears! I can’t stand when people are making sense, some people love to waste time rotating feeler gauges until they get it right unless the gauges are rusted over. How does one measure the gap for points in a distributor😁?
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I agree, feeler gauges suck for anything string related. This tool is super accurate, but not all guitar will feel the same with the same numbers.
I don’t use either, period. Set the neck straight while under string tension, I let string tension give very small amount of relief over time if any, frets have been leveled and polished of course, rough in string height at the 12th then set string depth at the nut using the touch method at the 3rd, reset string height to a Fender heavy across the board at the 12th, final tune and play, check for buzz, adjust individual frets and intonate as necessary, done…
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It would be great if you could demonstrate how to set up a guitar or bass with a completely flat neck.
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I just went to look for it and couldn't find it at first. I agree That's a way more precise way to measure. Those crazy cats at StewMac call it "Digital Nut Slotting Guage" but you showed its utility beyond that! Thanks!
Thanks for watching my friend I know you will dig that little gauge if you get one.
The darn tool (12203) is out of stock. Hope this video encourages Stewmac to order more gauges from the manufacturer.
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I don't think I've ever played a guitar with a dead flat neck that sounded any good., In 40 years! Brings back bad memories of 1980's shred guitars. They were terrible.
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ted woodford is the best guitar tech and repair man in Canada and possibly the continent and he uses feeler gauges. no offense but he sets up more guitars in a week than you will do in a month building guitars, so if ted can be a wildly successful tech and repair man using a set of 10$ feeler gauges im not going to run out and buy an expensive tool from stew mack. im poor and that digital micrometer costs more than i paid for my whole guitar. im sure they are great but theres more than one way to skin a cat
If you have low action, and play hard, on the lower frets, you will benefit from some neck relief. I know this from experimentation.
Speaking of being a hack, for Christ sake change that awful intro where half the notes are fluffed. It’s a naff riff, anyway. And whoever is playing it is a total hack.
Feeler gauges work great if you know how to properly use them. For action, though, I measure with a machinist’s rule or a calibrated wedge. StewMac makes massively over priced cool gadgets. I’m gonna guess you don’t pay for your StewMac tools, though, so I get why you’re hard selling for them.
I'm calling BS. Screw Mac wants to sell more costly stuff. What works, works. If you can't read 64ths, get new glasses.
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if you had an .060 feeler gage & an elastic, you could just lower the bridge & pluck the string til it stops ringing...i might be doing it wrong but im waaay faster & right where i wanna be...
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The clamp and feeler gauges are just for Getting you close without going over and it works fantastic for that part of it. The dial is for Micro adjusting into submission. So actually, the clamp and feeler gages are a fantastic tool for exactly what they're intended. If you were using them for final adjustment, jokes on you.
I totally agree that it is a very good Tool however, we all know that Stew Mac prices are a tad bit high. I have been doing the Old School Game for quite some time and it works for me. I will leave it at that. I like your Videos !
I have a small tin with numerous picks of all thicknesses. I have mic'ed and used them for this very purpose!
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1911 for the win!
This is where you tell me the 1911 won two world wars...
I've been doing this long enough to have heard that before.
Dial indicators used in Lutherie has only been used for 10 years as compared to feeler gauges which have been around a LOT, LOT longer. So going by the title of your video everyone before that has been ripping people off????!?????!???! That is an extremely inflammatory defamation of ALL Luthier's character and could be grounds for a class action suit!!!!
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Great video. But you know what my string height gauge is? It's me. My feel...my brain. I don't set up any two guitars exactly the same although they're very close they're just not the same. I don't think you need a tool to know this.
I didn't have an issue with anything except the no relief in the neck thing. I have never seen a flat neck with strings at a playable action that didn't have fret buzz.
Also, wouldn't it be better to take measurements while in playing position with no guitar body weight pushing down on the neck?
I guess you didn't read the instructions that came with the dial gauge... Go ahead, read the instructions about using the dial gauge on the upper frets... Talk about hacks.
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Hm, wonder why feeler gauges were even invented? Must have been specifically for engine builders, gunsmiths, that sort of thing. Nothing as important as setting a truss rod or filing a nut, that's for sure.
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This is badass!!!! Thanks for the heads up !!!
Wouldn't this also eliminate the need for under-string radius gauges? Just set each string the same height off the fretboard and your radius is guaranteed.
Only thing it eliminates is accuracy.
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Well I admit I bought the Stew Mac feeler gauges with the holder deal out of curiosity. I used the holder deal once…it was a PITA!!! I do like the long feeler gauges though & use them regularly…maybe old school but I’m old man & that digital thing looks to be another PITA!
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Cool tool but possibly overkill for something made from wood or a solution looking for a problem imho, especially when "feel" and feeler gauges have worked fine for millions of setups.
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you should master the gage off of the top of fret & calculate that way.. you have no idea if you are at the apex of the string when you zero it & never will brcause you cant see the apex of the string with gage on top.. i use a test indicator mounted on a height stand, its best for action at first fret, etc bcuz you can see where the probe is in relation to what your trying to measure...
this cat needs to stop telling people anything..
Good advice
Just imagine how great Hendrix could have been if his strings could have been within .001" of each other. Sorry I couldn't help myself.
It's remarkable how all the most amazing music was recorded with fairly hohum gear
Been using mine since before StewMac and LMI made them.
I measure mine with a mm ruler. I tried feelers and it was a nightmare. I guess I would rather spend 3 dollars on a steel MM ruler than 112 on a Stewmac gauge. I'd like one, but I don't have the money.
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That seems like a great tool to have in the shop .. its on my list
Philadelphia Luthier Tools & Elmer Guitar > StewMac for this
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I agree with Matt that feeler gauges are not appropriate for guitar setups. Feeler gauges are ideally suited for measuring/setting the distance between 2 rigid bodies. The fact that each side is rigid, allows you to "feel" if the gap is correct. Stick a feeler gauge between a fret and string and you are almost guaranteed to move the string.
brilliant
Maybe.
You should take lessons on how to use a feeler gauge. 😂😂😂
Nice stewmac shirt Did they give it to you too?
nope. we bought them. We have been shilling stew mac for years before they decided to add us to their "Shills". If you don't like it, don't watch us. It's really that easy!
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Comment section was fun to scroll/read through 😆
But seriously, unless you're ** guitar tech why should it matter if you're + or - a thousandth of an inch from a certain spec? A Sheldon Cooper response would be "Oh of course you use the nice clean StewMac digital! Why would you use "feeler" gauges?! Those use feelings!! Ewww!" 😆
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I bought one a year ago, it’s nice! Good video Matt.
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what a strange attitude
Agreed.
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Hey Matt, you guys are so popular that the string height gauge is sold out at Stew Mac! Regards to Chris.
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Hmmm what's in the koolaid?? At least you have an opinion and that is important. I use feeler gauges for neck relief occasionally. Most setup specs for electric guitars are from the neck body joint or 17th fret. Acoustic guitars are measured at the 12th fret for Martins and neck body joint 14th fret for most others.
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Feeler gauges are fine.
They sure are, I use them all the time to check the bolt gap on my roller delayed rifles
Jim DeCola, master luthier at Gibson, is just fine with feeler gauges. ‘Nuff said.
Are you assuming that everyone doing this with feeler gauges is as good as a master luthier at Gibson... I can assure you they are not.
@@TexasToastGuitars (dig your guitars, by the way)
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Elmer Guitar has a great one of these for $67.
So, Matt, you're trying to do a setup before leaving for a gig, aaand, the display fades out. Oh, that's right, ya forgot to buy a spare battery. Well, just use those janky old feeler gauges for the setup, huh? Oh, that's right, you pitched out your feeler gauges!. Just because you don't know how to use feeler gauges doesn't mean nobody else does.
If you were that unsuccesful while using feeler guages... you should have tried another trade. You're not a tool and die maker, stop using their tools.
You are so right. I'm going to rethink my entire life now. Thank you for your advice and stern words of wisdom. Would you like it if I just stopped doing videos? I'd hate for you to have to disagree with me again. Maybe you would like it if I never even existed?
Would that make you happy?
Would you sleep contently knowing that my UA-cam channel and lighthearted commentary was gone thanks to the words you penned?
I hope that you outlive me so you can dance on my grave.
I'm going to go have a look at your videos now and see how a real professional does it.
Lord have mercy on my soul.
@@TexasToastGuitars No... it's simply because I like to see what kind of character and dignity a person maintains under scrutiny before taking advice from them.
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Unless you are a PLEK machine I highly doubt your filing is that accurate.
I am a 1911 guy and I thought the joke was funny enough to subscribe even though I don't agree with you on that
I love shooting my 1911s my friend
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