DRONE FILTERS: A New Way To Think🔸[WITH PROOF]
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Hello my drone cowboy!
I found this system that works EXQUISITELY well for me.
It allows me to focus 100% on improving my drone filmmaking skills WHILE FLYING / RECORDING.
I’m sharing this so YOU can try it for yourself & see if lands with the same success.
If you’re a luddite convinced by the other drone UA-cam ding-dongs that brainwashed you to think manual exposure [IN YOUR DRONES] makes you more professional…..this episode is not for you.
You are not open minded to listening and actually trying a new workflow.
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Ted, right on regarding interuption of the creative process. Here's a compromise: Lock the shutter speed down @180 degrees*. But, leave the iso in auto and EV down approx 03 to protect the highlights. DJI does a nice job of making subtle adjustments to the iso in 1/10 stop increments**. (When you have the proper filter in place and exposure lock is not appropriate because the light is changing. If you have the right filter, it should not push the iso above 200 . I.E. making a 360 flight around a subject and you need to get it in one take.) *If your shutter speed changes during the flight it WILL affect the motion blur and it will bite you in the butt when you least expect it. Definitely lock down the color balance. ** I have found this to be the case from DJI's consumer drones all the way up to the Enterprise models. This works for me shooting D-Cinelike or D-Log-M and allows me to concentrate on my shot-list and just "Play". Cheers man! 😀
Another great drone myth-buster video. Thanks for the great work Ted.
Auto exposure is great when using drones in changing lighting conditions and not only. Awesome advice.
Thank You Ted😀
Hi Ted. I'm new to drone-ography and you are absolutely one of the best YT creators I have seen. The manner and simple way you explain all drone related subjects is amazing. I've mastered the basic of drone flying but now I want to learn and master video/photo making with my DJI M4Pro. I'm subscribing for more content. Thank you all the way from Oxford, England.
Oh my dear Ted, your works is PURE GOLD!!! I can't count my growing because of your masterclass!!! ❤️
Leo your guitar skills are pure gold. Brother thank you for being part of our growing community here!
Another good one Ted!
Thanks Ted, excellent as always! Trust that you are well
Like I have said before, there is nothing better than starting the day with a Ted video! You put a smile on my face and inspire!
Thanks for you perspective and your channel. It’s just what I needed!
right on! THAT is exactly what I love to hear. You made my week. Welcome aboard.
Always enjoy your efforts....Thank you buddy!!
Tremendous information, thanks Ted
Good sharing 😊
Ted, I trust everything you say lol. I’m going to do everything you say in this video and make a video this weekend, post it Sunday. Thank you for all of the incredible advice.
Thank you!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks for sharing😊
superb!....lol @ the taxes comment! 😎
I love the mini shout-out Ted! Great video!
Thank you for the great advice
As usual great advice fron a great guy love all your videos 🔥🔥🔥
David man i truly appreciate that ma friend.,
Love the simplicity! I've adopted auto exposure lately for the same reasons. I found my concentration is definitely better. Thanks again for an awesome video.
Love the show, thank you for the inside info on the ND 64 filter
great demonstration
Truth spoken yet again bro hope ya well Ted bikes lookin nice in the golden hour light too
thanks mate.
Love the video!! I've been flying for a little over 2 years. and frankly, I'm just getting to old to remember all those settings anyway. It's so much more FUN to f a great subject to film.. and then just fly & enjoy it!! 🤟
Excellent video Ted. Really helpful and confidence boosting.
hey Tim. Thanks buddy. I saw your Trearddur Bay vid. Beautiful.
My Man, you continue to inspire my creativity with drones, rather than have me analysing every single second.
Well done, mate.
Love from the world upside-down.
yesssssss. Create, don’t analyze.
Great information. Thanks
Love the testing! I’ve had similar results and man I love keeping it simple with Auto.
Thank you for this demonstration ! I was already following your advices (and your masterclass ! 🙏👍) concerning auto exposure instead of manual, convinced by your idea, but this video to prove the point is really a good idea 👍
I gave this a shot tonight. I live "up north", so I started with an ND32, thinking light up here is slightly less intense. Nope, had to use ISO 100 to get 60fps properly exposed. So the first thing I did when I got home was to swap to the ND64, and now I'm set. The only filter I'd consider having handy would be the ND2000 for really slow exposures (photos/hyper-lapse).
Thanks for the tip!
Great tips Ted
Lyn I appreciate that!
More and more I use personally autoexposure when flying with the drone or filming with the Pocket camera… Thanks a lot, Ted, for reminding us again and again 🥰👍🏻
You're by far my favorite creator on the tube, sir! Always leave feeling enriched!
“always leave feeling enriched” ……THAT is probably the best comment I’ve received since starting this venture. As a teacher….that is our currency to hear things like that. Thank you.
@@TedNemeth No! Thank you
Thanks for sharing
dude when you said the taxes bit while creating... that rang so true. Get those mechanics of the camera understood and then let THAT knowledge do the work while you dive into CREATIVE INFINIUM!!!
right on brother. Glad it landed with you.
Great share Ted keep up the good work. Invaluable information
ah man I really appreciate that. Love your ancient architecture videos.
Another great video from our talented tutor Ted!
hey great to see you buddy. Thank you for being such a valuable/active part of the community.
Great info and well presented as always, Ted. Thanks!
right on. I don’t think I’ve seen you/your channel here before. So is Dremo your drone?
@@TedNemeth I'm also under MJ SubTerra, which also subs to you! Remo is my drone, named after an comedy martial arts action movie in the 80's. I love the masterclass, by the way - top tips and really enjoyable. I'm moving my mindset closely but surely!
I’ve tested your philosophy on auto exposure and agree 100%. And likewise the ND64 in the middle of the day is the optimum value. This overview truly makes our photographic life so much simpler. Great stuff as always Ted 🎉
Thanks for another great video and advice. Would you suggest keeping white balance fixed manually while using auto exposure? I
hey Dave. I tested the auto whitebalance algorithm in my drones and found they are perfect about 95% of the time. And the 5% of the time it is off….its just a tiny amount and takes 2 seconds to adjust.
So auto whitebalance is another auto setting that allows me to focus undisturbed on creativity.,
@@TedNemeth thanks Ted. Appreciate the advice (and you doing the work so I don't have to). First class!
Thanks Ted. It's automagically the best choice. Too bad about a couple of my early filter purchases. I'll stick with only bringing my ND64 and, of course, my wide angle lens. Kidding!
We love you Teddy
Arun! Brother we will connect. Things have been pretty crazy here. I just checked your channel…no new vids?!
@@TedNemeth That's what we need to chat about :) . I love your philosophy on this stuff, would be keen to connect at some point.
I have been using an ND 16 on my Mini 3 Pro most of the time, but based on your presentation here, I will experiment more with the ND 64. Cheers from Wisconsin, Ted.
Amazing channel Ted, thanks for your time. So in a nutshell. Keep on auto (in general) and add a nd 64 filter. Job done :)
Excellent! It works incredibly well for me. Test it for a few months and see how it works for you.
Thanks! Unless I'm doing something specific, I use HDR for both my drone and my action cam (DJI Osmo). Sometimes I find I have more motion blur than I like, so I've been using my ND 4 more often.
Nice information! Thanks for sharing, my friend.🥷🇯🇵
Hola Ted. Tus videos son fabulosos. Explicas muy bien y muy claramente; incluso yo que no hablo inglés (te escribo desde Monterrey, México) entiendo una parte muy importante de tu contenido. Sigo tus consejos fielmente y los resultados son excelentes. Yo tengo un lema que dice: "pregúntale al que sabe..." y tú me has demostrado que de fotografía sabes muchísimo. Por otro lado, el contenido visual de tus videos es espectacular, particularmente el de el Metro (Subway) de Nueva York. Tengo un dron DJI Mini 3 PRO.
This technique works great for standard photos and videos from your drone. But if you’re wanting to explore more in the photography side of things with long exposure during the day you definitely need a range of ND filters for that. Great video tho man I appreciate you’re time and effort
Ted my flying camera buddy: I nearly always agree with you. However, after one of my neighboring towns got pounded with a 5-foot snowstorm, I took my drone there the next day to shoot some of the snow-plow cleanup. It was soooo bright that I had to resort to an ND-128, so I could watch through my DJI RC controller. Normally, I - like you - just keep on an ND-64 because it handles nearly everything. Keep flying and I'll keep watching, brother!
Great video, I’ll test this out
hey Dom. Did you see the little nod to USDS at the end?
@@TedNemeth I noticed that 👍🏻
Sound advice.
Timmy thank you for watching good sir.
Had multiple drones, mini 2. Air 2S. Mini 3 pro. Almost never used filters :)
Great video as always. Only thing I wish we could see on each example is the Shutter Speed and FPS to see that what the ballpark looked like on each adjustment. How do we know what the shutter speed is and FPS is (180 rule working or not) when it is in auto?
Do you adjust the EV value and use exposure lock?
Hey Ted, I’m really new at this and enjoy the simplicity of the breakdowns in your videos. I get the principle behind the one ND filter. Would you also use the ND-64 to capture sunrises/sunsets? Or is that just a preference thing? Thanks!
Question. What do you do if you want the shot a little lighter or a little darker? Exposure compensation? Or fix it in post?
Keith…..HUGE QUESTION. I have this exact topic on my list of upcoming episodes I need to make.
Before I answer your question….I’ll preface by saying this is an art, not a science: there’s many different workflows for different folks.
So what I’m about to tell you is what I was taught by all my mentors and its great advice…. when you’re recording video….there is only correct exposure. Then if you want to darken it or lighten it for effect in editing….that is when you adjust. BECAUSE…getting correct exposure while recording gives you the best starting point and will yield the least amount of artifacts when edited.
Aye the K.I.S.S. principle really works. 👍
Choosing your single ND filter value depends on the aperture of the drone lens, methinks you wouldn't want to use ND64 on the Mini2 which is more than a full stop slower than the Mini3.
Graham great to see you sir. Yup ur exactly right. On partly cloudy days with my Mini 2 I usually don’t need a filter.
Hey I’ll be on the Isle of Man on May 28 for 1 week to film a documentary about the motorcycle race.
Ted - your excellent adventure videos always rock, and I'm bought in. Question: does the choice of "Go To" ND change at all if most of my missions are a combination of video AND still photography? I do a lot of sunset missions over a a marsh and I'm fascinated with doing gimbal down shots over the creeks. These can result in some pretty slow shutters for a properly exposed photo with an ND64. Also I'm typically shooting vid at 60 fps so targetting 1/125.
Kinda depends on how you’re flying - low and fast vs high and slow. I typically look at the cloud cover and pop on a filter to match the situation. Full sun midday 64. Partly cloudy 32. Mostly cloudy 16 or 8. Sunset time or full overcast - none.
Excellent video! Most of the UA-camrs advising to buy the entire set of ND filters are sponsored by them.
Man, you had me convinced of this many moons ago! Would love to get your feedback on my cinematic attempt with my Avata called Winter Stream Wandering. I used a little different method where I set the shutter speed to 1/120 (4k60 fps) but set the ISO to auto with a cap at 800. This enabled me to render the video at half speed (hopefully) making it more cinematic.
I typically use auto w photo outside of long exposure. The only problem I see with this is someone not using right nd or no nd and getting a 1/25 shutter speed in lower light or a 1/600 in bright sunny day. Even w algorithm trying to stay close to 180 rule if f stop is cranked up and iso is at its lowest the only other parameter the drone has is the shutter speed to achieve correct exposure. I'd also be concerned w the drone blowing out the highlights to properly exposure for subject when a better more cinematic look would be retaining highlights and having Milton's slightly underexposed and potentially crushing or losing details in shadows. Without running a more thorough test (I think you could have been more thorough in your testing) I can't give any definitive statements but I can agree that under certain circumstances this may be good practice
Awesomeness in learning the filter side and for me I’m an auto nd guy just out of ease 😂
right on. If you two are ever in NYC let me know.
QUALITY vid once again. Can the milky water affect and any motion blur also be achieved whilst in auto mode. Not quite sure myself 😅
Great video as always Ted.
The exposure lock button tip in your comment reply is great advice.
Are you ✈️to India and Thailand this year ? will buy you a coffee in Chiang mai if your in town 🙏
I’m guessing Ansel Adams possibly would not use filters but I haven’t studied his technical techniques, I just enjoy his work. IMHO , the only photographer that does Yosemite justice on film.
Ted i stay in Auto always have..
I go with the ole cleche if it ain't broke don't fix it lol
Good video and you clearly proved AUTO is GOLDEN. As far as Filters i tend to use ND 16 more to each their own i guess right Playboy hahaha.
I have always liked the guitar sound on transitions you use..When i hear that i know this is a Ted Nemeth Video
I think this works very well in normal mode. But in D-Cinelike I've filmed everything too dark so far.
Hey Ted. Not knowing that much about photography. I'm always in auto mode, and only own an ND64. Thinking about going out east next week over by canal road, Hampton Bays Shagwong marina. Do you have any recommendations for some cool places?
I recall you mentioning in one of your previous videos that you only use an ND64 filter.
I had been considering buying a full set but at the time they had not been developed for the Mini 4 Pro.
I went ahead and just bought the ND64 and it's worked out great. I see no need to spend any more money for a full set of NDs.
The only problem I've encountered with the ND64 is that I forget to take the filter off of my drone when I fly at night.
It's a terrible waste of time and SD card space.
Nice video my friend 😎🤝 let me ask you what you think for the Eclipse I need a ND?
If I were you I wouldn’t bother. To capture the actual eclipse itself you’d need an ND100000 at minimum otherwise you’ll just burn out the sensors in your camera. Give it a quick google search you’ll find all the info about it. Good luck
@@CaptCaveman thank you
Ted, I like the idea of the ND 64 with auto. However, if you were to take pictures during your videos on that same day would you take the ND64 off? Ty!
The Ansel Adam’s of drones.
The Adam’s Family of Drones
great video, as usual Ted. I use ND filters on my drones and choose strength based on the ambient light. I love the 64 for really bright days and have trouble choosing on none sunny days. I'm going to try just the 64 for awhile and see how it works for me. I herd Captain Drone say that ND filters do nothing for still pics. I can't believe that's true and would be interested in hearing your opinion on using ND's with stills.
right on man. I love Captain Drone. He is a true flying enthusiast. Love his energy. If you’re unsure about filters/photos you need to do your own testing. Don’t listen to me or anyone! Well….listen to me for the bad humor….but then do your own testing.
Hmmmmm…..maybe I should make a tutorial showing people how to do their own testing? I kinda like that idea.
@@TedNemeth I love Captain Drone too! I've done some test with no filter compared to ND 8, It seemed to reduce sun haze. Maybe comparing none to a ND64 (my darkest) will better answer my question. I'm going to try it today photographing white churches. Great idea, teaching people how to do their own tests. Thanks Ted.
For stills, an ND filter will only slow down the shutter to get the exposure right (if in Auto). Now slowing the shutter down may be a desired effect, if you want light trails, blurry background or something like that. It's all depending on what effect you're going for.
But if all you want is regular sharp stills then no, ND filters will not help you get better results. In fact you may end up with blurry photos when you wish they were sharp.
@@olabergvall3154 Thanks for the info, this makes sense. I knew it will slow down the shutter speed, but not sure of the results. I thought a slower shutter speed would reduce highlights and give the photo more detail information. I will experiment with 0 to ND64
I’ve always used auto exposure, as you say changing lighting conditions or a directional change can ruin a shot in manual mode, unless you’re close to a subject at speed or the subject is moving at speed past you, it’s pointless. I use ND16 on bright cloudy days, 64 on sunny days & if midday in harsh sunlight, I’ll go up to 128. When flying around or over water I’ll use a CPL & that’s it, the technology is often better than attempting to manipulate the shot manually. Look at AI for example, it’s progressing to do a better job than a manual attempt, such as object removal as an example in photoshop, 20 seconds to remove two vehicles in front of a complex building with windows, provides 3 options, of which 99.9% of the time are good enough & most likely better than a manual removal of an hours worth of work trying to airbrush it out.
Great vid. Do you use standard or a log profile ?
I have a Mini 3 Pro and it only has D-Cinelike which is a terrible excuse for a log profile. MY TESTING….found it offered no meaningful benefit to dynamic range or color fidelity. So i always record in normal color profile and save all the time of having to restore the exposure & colors back to the way they were while recording.
Thanks . I’ve had the same results with the air 3. Felt like a waste of time. Another step I can skip 😂
Fuckin great ish Teddy boy, I like your style. Cheers from FL.
my only problem with auto exposure is when the camera adjusts the exposure mid video recording and changes the brightness too quickly making the footage look unnatural
Hey buddy. Just assign the EXPOSURE LOCK FUNCTION to a controller button. So when u come to a scene and don’t want the exposure to change: just hit the button, lock exposure. When the scene is over just hit the button again and instantly go right back to getting correct exposure.
🙏🙏🙏👍
Funny you publishes this now. Last week I tried AUTO with an ND32 filter and the resulting video was way better quality. I'm looking at ND64 now.
Awesome video my friend. Thank you! 👍🏼👍🏼
Like Lao Tsu's rule about no speaking on his morning sunrise walks....there's no reason to filter natural beauty anyhow
i like your style friend.
You don't give us any information, which drone you used to get these conclusions.
You just say drone, BUT WHICH drone? There are drones with sensors from 1/1.3 to 4/cmos.
There are also drones WITH FIXED APERTURE (usually from 1.8 to 2.8) and drones WITH VARIABLE APERTURE.
If we're talking about variable aperture drones, "YOUR GENERAL THEORY = ALL AUTO" makes no sense...
Your filter test is pretty stupid because it misses completely why you need a filter to get the 180 rule ... you need to move the drone.
eg panning or following or overflying the subject. the 180 rule only shows on moving terrain....
Not stupid at all. You are exquisitely 100% wrong.
I’m not in the mood right now to type out a long response. Maybe later.
@@TedNemeth The whole reason for the 180rule is to smooth out movement and create a trace instead of fast flickering images. There's temporal filters in various video editor that can apply it afterwords if you didn't fly with a filter.
In Ted we trust😊
holy crap! great to see you buddy. How is your new state treating you? Long Island misses you.
@@TedNemeth Aw thanks Bro.Slowly settling in. Loving it so far, But still miss the old stomping grounds
I love you Teddy old boy. I love your stuff. You teach so well. And you remind me of his dear friend and colleague of mine. I knew for 40 years. He was a wonderful, Videographer. He had that Cinematic eye.
And of course I'm all for what you are saying. But I'm still fidgety. So I split the difference. It depends on what kind of a scene I'm shooting. And I might have, manual aperture control. Letting the camera pick the, shutter rate. Or have control over the shutter rate. Let the camera pick the aperture. On moving targets. So some of the auto exposure is working. While I set something. I want something set at.
Then I will also generally set the AE, offset. Underexposed, 1/2 or 1 full, F-stop, under. So it never peaks at,, 100% white. You can't do anything with that. So I don't want to go over 90 or 95% white. And I will set that offset. So, No Problemo. Bitty bang bitty boom. As all I was generally shooting was, Live Rock Band Videos. With multiple cameras. Generally 4 cameras. In the year 1996 BD (Before Drones). In the good old days of, Real Rock & Roll.. In the year 2010 BT (Before Trump). When there was more in Network TV News other than Donnie. Like other stuff happening around the world. Aside from Donnie. When we were still a Country, United. Against other countries interfering with our election procedures. Not your next-door neighbors. Who also voted against women's rights. Your neighbors. And the ones siding with, Hamas. It is, now causing serious friction. And I guess everybody wants the world to blow up? So they can have their way! And because they've all gone Fucking Insane! And they have to lash out and attack each other. Between countries. Or between Americans. It does not matter.
And so I think. These UFO/UAP's. They are having a, disastrous effect upon us. They have been sprinkling something upon us. They are observing us. Waiting to see who kills who for their amusement. Of course the not going to contact us. They want to watch us kill each other. And do their job for them. They just sprinkle magic fairy dust on us all. And we picked them up on military jet fighter radar. So who are they? What are they? What are they doing to us?
I mean I think there was a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits or Science Fiction Theater episode about just that? In fact I'd swear to it. So another Science Fiction has now come true! And THEY LIVE.
Yes I think it has all really come true. Not exactly like the movies. But damn close enough. Something is gone radically wrong on planet Earth. In the past couple of years. And what has changed us all? In the past couple of years? A little bug from outer space. Called a Novel Virus. Never before seen on this planet. But only on this planet. We don't know about other planets it may have originated from? I'm just saying…… Because I'm likely right. It explains everything. It explains why everybody is at everybody's throat. All over the fucking world!
This won't end well at this rate..
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