I suspect the graph that describes what you’re talking about is more of a bell-shaped curve: ie, low level of detail at low light levels (dark), maximum detail at medium light levels, and low detail (again) at very high light levels.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 it’s not as difficult as it might seem, if you commit to thinking it through. I don’t know whether UA-cam allows you to edit your videos, but, I recommend, for your audience, that you correct it, however way you can.
Agreed. She has unwittingly draw an 'error function' curve which is the integral of the curve which makes sense for her to have drawn ( the 'normal distribution' or 'Gaussian' curve)
@@shillanassi yeah you can't edit videos unfortunately, except to make them shorter, you can't upload a revised version and have it appear in the same link, with all the comments and views still intact, etc. You have to upload it as a totally separate video.
For those struggling with this, she is using the term 'value' to mean tonal value - the spectrum between dark and light regardless of colour or anything else. So many people use the term value without the required explanation of what value they mean.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 “Mistakes” are just one of the many things that make us relatable! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
As a professional artist myself, let me tell you there’s more to being an artist than learning ‘value compression’, as you term it. There are so many other factors involved and it takes years of practice. Honestly! There’s no sudden revelation or method that will instantly transform your art. All you need to do is keep painting and drawing.
“…all you need to do…” So, you get paid. That doesn’t “sell” me that you’re an artist. Art and its expression is in the mind of the beholder and the doer…one walk through a modern “ art” museum and one realizes it’s all an illusion of the mind. One person’s precious is another’s daily garbage collection.
Of course there's more to it, however, my personal experience was that this idea really suddenly helped me make sense of a lot of what I was struggling with. For me it was a light bulb moment, it might not be for others, because I guess some people innately understand these things but may struggle elsewhere. I also think there's a lot to be said for ways of thinking/learning. I had this idea in front of me many times before it clicked because I simply hadn't come across an explanation that resonated with my way of thinking, which is interesting.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 That’s it! There’s so much to painting! It can take a long time before you really get ‘sorted’ with it, and your head too!
Theres volumes of art "rules". None of them are absolutes. It all depends on the person, what they want to achieve, & the tools they have to do the work with. Some people just can't see things others can. Our brains process information differently. Good to be aware of things though..even if it doesn't quite sink in.
Mercifully you never need have face to face conversation with rude people. Fortunately their comments boost your channel so regard them positively even if they are rude. There is always a nice way of bringing the same message across. You be you, definitely helped some who never commented ❤🎉
I felt as though the video was getting a bit long, but, If you look at Sorolla's work, you'll see that many of his bright beach scenes have these incredibly saturated white areas, while figures beneath shaded canopies include details. One I love is 'Sewing the Sail', you'll see the areas of dappled sun are a flat application of paint artsandculture.google.com/asset/sewing-the-sail-joaquin-sorolla-y-bastida/ggHMkbvZk1yLaw?hl=en Likewise, turn to almost any Caravaggio piece and he uses chiaroscuro lighting where the shadows are totally void of detail and the scene is dramatically illuminated for maximum details in those areas. Most portraits use the effect of 'flat' shadows and detailed midtones, John Singer Sargent did it a lot :) Looking through old masters' work, you'll start to discover some really interesting manipulations of value!
@@adamthorntonillustration9281 Disagree. Spent my entire 1st year at university working oils in greyscale til I truly loathed painting for a time. The animation didn’t convince me, examples are needed, either the tutor’s work or the Masters. Examples in real time on video - no one is able to steal the work product from this course from a few minutes - rather it would inspire. Finding the lively discussions throughout comments are great! Ps. Changed uni - barely heard the word value again over next 3 years. Graduated with honours
I have been an artist from childhood, sold my-first paintings at 9 years old, I think you continue learning all your life with something you love. I appreciate you sharing something that helped you so much. That’s why I love the art world, even though you have a few people who think too much of themselves, the majority are willing to share their experience with up and coming artists. Thank you for being generous.
Thanks Monica and I have to agree, it took me a long old time to find nuggets of information because nobody seemed willing to share everything. It’s a very strange niche to be in!
Indeed they do! But I have to say I have a deep love of colour, but I enjoy playing with colour and value together, I've realised it's that relationship which interests me most.
It's great to see artists explaining the importance of value. I heard Marco Bucci say that not having control over your values immediately shows the difference between a professional and amateur artist, or an artist that does or doesn't know what they're doing. Once I'd heard that, every piece of art I saw afterwards immediately demonstrated that.
@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 Well, I hope it's one of those struggles that inspires you to keep striving, rather than the opposite. So many of us have been put off art due to the eternal struggle and negative self-talk. I've definitely gone through phases of that, but fortunately I keep coming back to it. I had a look at your website after discovering your UA-cam channel this morning. Your art is so beautiful and masterful. Your skill with fur is just so wonderful to look at. It reminds me of the animal illustrator Therese Larsson, although you're both different. I wish you all the very best.
Paraphrasing for my own learning: "Learn to compress similar values into a single value (rather than many), and put details either into the shadows or the details, but not both." Thank you! And the comments down here about making images with only three to four values are helpful for getting into a value-based mindset too!!
I have a background in photography. The same concepts you describe here are known in the photography world as "dynamic range". If you're photographing a sunset, and want to adjust the exposure so you can see the nuances of color variation in the clouds, don't expect to see any details of the trees in the foreground. At the same time if you want to make out the texture of the trees, you can expect the sky to be bright and overexposed. Many cameras have a High Dynamic Range (HDR) mode which will take multiple exposures, and then computationally assemble an image that has details in both the shadows and the light. The HDR feature typically produces weird uncanny results in the final image. It's just not how we see the world.
Brilliant analogy. Very new to the concepts of "making art", and found myself fumbling to understand. We've all taken photos, though, and this completely opened my understanding. Thank you!
I should have had you write my script, thanks very much for your beautiful explanation, and might I say, without the sass. I rather wish photography was part of art tuition, it would help so much.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 "...and I might say, without the sass." Emily Rose, after reading many of the comments here, I have a few things to say: There was A LOT of "sass" (though I would likely have used a different term for it!), and you have handled it with real grace. Where you could have been defensive or snarky, you were self-deprecating, non-defensive, and added to a real discussion. Bravo! 🙏
This is excellent information,,,,,did you ever notice the vast majority of art books chapter one (you know, the chapter we all skip over to get the 5 page step-by-step in color demonstration), is VALUES!!!! Milford Zornes, a true legend of a watercolor painter said," if you want your painting to read from across the room, put a lighter value next to a darker value next to a lighter value next to a darker value etc! Good stuff!!!!
You may know it as tone? The terms value and tone are used interchangeably and often put together as 'tonal value'. It means of describing how light or dark something is :)
Hi Emily and thank you for your video. I am interested to learn from you about value compression. I do not want to learn pastel. I am a watercolor painter and would love to know more only about value compression. Is there any lesson about it?
Hi Tina, Thanks very much. You know, I would go and look at the old masters work and also look into the Florence Academy style of learning. It will have a lot more information for you. They will talk about 'massing' values and simplifying form into big areas of dark and midtone, with only a few highlights. Many teachers offer free sessions on UA-cam, have a Google about, I'm sure you'll find something useful :)
Been an Artist since I cane remember and that timy presentation articulated in what I was thinking as i am struggling with a piece I am doing right now. Thank you for this great presentation!!!
OMG what a discovery. Thanks 10 times. It took me so many years of reading, scketching, painting to discover Simplicity, and I'm going into that picture. So true.
Sadly no! I was looking for some, but I didn’t take any photos of my earlier art work and I’ve thrown everything out 😳 really kicking myself now as I’d love to have done a live review of it and digitally improve it!
To all artists, of which I only (dabble)…I’d like to say thank you!…to me the quality of life is directly tied to the level of conscious awareness that a being can maintain….Artist, like yourself Emily, have such a deep and beautiful presence! Your artwork is a wonderful expression of that ….creativity is one of if not the most enjoyable divine quality we share, it’s so inspirational to become aware of someone who has taken that deeper level of consciousness, and created a world like the one you share with us!
Thank you for this video! The importance of value can't be understated. I was fortunate to learn about it when studying traditional pixel art, which requires making very specific decisions to create the illusion of shape. Once you understand value in the context of only 3 or 4 values at a time, you can simplify your art in nearly any medium!
Correct, Something I learned recently when following a tutorial for making quick concept sketches. It was impressive how just a few values covered a lot of the bases for a rather nice drawing.
I have 6 diplomas. And have been reading and studying all my life. I compose music - paint pictures - photograph - write stories - narrate books ----- I didn't understand this concept.
I am not an artist but this video interested me a lot. Yet, I would have liked some examples from your paintings to understand better. Thank you though. This video made me desire to learn this subject.
One way I found to get better at this is to look at and study black-and white photographs, and to do greyscale drawings. In the absence of color it's so much easier for me to see and appreciate line, shape, form, highlight, and shadow. I found I can do quite a lot with just 4 grey pencils and a black one. Thank you for this video!
Completely agree with you, I do this quite a lot as well. You can also photograph your paints or pencils and turn it to greyscale. It's not perfect, but it does help. Notans, or thumbnails, can help too :)
Haha sort of and sort of not. For some people, you’re going to want to watch the whole thing as it can be confusing to be dumped in the explanation if this is completely new. Either way though, I hope you’ve found it useful!
I agree Value , or recognizing Value is important in making art, especially in realism. I taught the Elements and Principles of art in my classes for fifteen years. Some students would come in the first day thinking they were already a good artist. Only to learn they didn't know the Elements or Principles of art. This information is foundational to good art and design. Many students who could draw or paint well also suffered from not understanding Value or Contrast. I see so much today that demonstrates the artist or designer, or even film directors don't understand Contrast. Contrast is vital, hence an understanding of Value is as well.❤ The trick is seeing art in everything. Seeing junk as potential art . Everything you see can be made into or used in an artwork. Anything you make is your Art. Whether it's good or bad is subjective. Don't be discouraged by someone's opinion when they negate your work. ❤ Ive made art from totally found materials which sold quickly. As the negative comments from art critics poured in, I was laughing all the way to the bank. Just remember, even critics are brainwashed into thinking they have the final word. Keep in mind many critics would praise work only to learn a three year old made it. 😂
Knowing the complete language of any course of study is the ultimate goal. Whether it is performing, sports, working, business, arts, or science. The total comprehension of all the components and how they work together and in variation can determine the individual's level of mastery. This video highlights levels of color and light importance but without perspective and dimension there is nothing to gauge where the reflections originate or how contrast magnifies the lighter levels. Dritz Rainbow color wheel, a Value Scale, Color Mixing Wheel and View Finder or Grid and a Proportional Dividing compass are all just helpful tools for beginners to masters.
I'd like to add in that value is important in any 2D art regardless of whether it is representational or not. It might be even more important in abstract or non-representational art. In those cases, the artist's manipulation of elements and principles is what carries the weight. Subject doesn't help.
You are correct, values are so important and the differences in them in creating a mood or time of day. I’ve always liked the Munsell Color Tree as help referencing value to color. Thanks!
I’m 67. I’ve been drawing and painting all my life and have never even pretended to know anything about ‘value compression’. It sounds like bunkum to me. Just draw and paint what you see, folks!
Sigh... because you probably inherently understand it from your decades of experience, even if you can't explain why you do certain things. The problem with "painting what you see" is you end up NOT painting what you see. Like if you have a still life setup, if you actually look at one item in the setup, everything else around it isn't in focus in your vision, you see it peripherally as your eyes are focused on that one thing. But when you paint the still life, you work from one item to the next to the table to the background, and all will have the same level of focus and clarity because your eyes are adjusting for each object. But in reality when you see the setup, you don't see everything in focus or emphasized at the same time. Same with why working from photos can be challenging, because the camera can flatten depth, change colours, and make way more in focus than your eyes do. Don't come and "old man painter" someone who's trying to help others, your advice to basically wing it is less than helpful for people who are wanting to learn and get better (or as Emily said, finally have something "click" that makes a world of difference in how you see and how you paint).
Hi Scasey, I don't quite understand what you mean I'm afraid. Sadly, I wrote a lot of this while fueled on caffeine in one of those 'I'm on fire, I'm could do everything all at once' type of moments. Turns out I was very wrong, but that makes it kinda funny now!
I'm thinking now... Could this idea be applied to other arts? Like narrative or music? Th idea of creating a pallete of detail degree in specific areas sounds really interesting.
Such an interesting idea! I mean, I guess most often you have bass as the supporting tones. They keep the rhythm, they provide a sort of cushion for sound as a tone we can't hear as easily, or as clearly. Then as you get into higher pitches, that's where the melody is usually found, in the flute, obe, violins and so on. If the melody dies down, we can hear the bass more easily, if it's louder, we can't distinguish the bass as easily, but you can still hear that it's there...feels like a nice symmetry...
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 sounds have their equivalent in colors, everything is frequency, we can see this applied in everything, intentionally or accidentaly, if we pay attention, am I tripping too much here hahaha
@@ardidsonriente2223a tip from one of my professors was to think about music when composing a painting. Kinda the reverse of what you’re talking about. But there are similar ideas in both. A painting , like a piece of music can be wild and lively or repetitive and dull etc. There are a lot of parallels when you think about it. Just one reaches the heart through the eyes and the other through the ears. It was a tip that I have found very useful.
@@RCHRD444 haha I was waiting for someone to notice it!! I used to do it all the time as a kid, but I was no genius, I learnt a method …it’s more like a meditation for me.
Thank you. A short and sweet take on things. And I do routinely fall into the trap of trying to overly detail light and shadow to the detriment of both. I will try focusing more on one or the other and see how that helps my work.
I am one minute in and I'm struggling to hear you over the music, I hope it'll go away soon. It went away about 20 seconds later! Yay! Interesting video, Thanks!
I think it's a shame that many art teachers and colleges teach very little that's useful. Eg about composition or colour or value or techniques. People learning graphics learn more imo.
Graphics and illustration...I wish I had taken either at Uni! We got no life drawing, no theoretical help, nothing. Meanwhile, I'd sneak onto the illustration course life drawing sessions!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 yeh main thing I remember from art school is being made to stand up in front of a crowd of people to justify your work using approved concepts and language.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820it is bonkers about having to use like a special magic language and that was most of the emphasis of the course. The best painter in our year (fine art) was kicked off the course because he was dyslexic. In retrospect I'd probably do illustration because you'd hopefully be taught more skills.
My daughter, a graphics designer, also explained this to me. But she said it's only useful to someone who has already developed drawing skills and is struggling to make their work more accessible.
Yes and no, I used this idea (but taking it further into chiaroscuro lighting), with my 8 year old cousin about ten years ago. I got her to focus on big shapes (she was trying to draw a face), and her work went from unrealistic and flat, with the features too spread out, to something that looked far more realistic and the proportions improved straight away. Interesting exercise.
Yes I also agree, I can relate to what you say, I also have been practicing for about 10 years, it will be that much next year. So i' m interested in what you say. Best wishes 🤞❤💞 , thanks again for sharing.
May inspire viewers to become pupils if they see artwork you’re creating and the finished work. As you paint - explain a fragment of how the value brings your work to life ( working in greyscale probs look flat on video )
As an artist, value understanding is very important. I cannot criticize you for this video, however, value is a small part of creating art, realism or otherwise, but, if understanding value was missing from your education and this approach helped "you" then I pat you on the back, good job. Unless the university you attended was teaching "modern" art as real art, which of course it is not, understanding value, rather value composition, along with line composition, color composition, shape composition, etc, etc, is usually your basic beginning courses, BUT the greatest lesson taught, was WORK< WORK < WORK!
Yeah, sadly my university taught me absolutely nothing at all. The whole course was theoretical teaching, all about the idea behind the work...they actively discouraged representational draw,ing painting or creating anything in a traditional way which was such a let down.
Yes and no. I'm talking more broadly about 'translating' what we see into an art medium and also trying to keep in mind that if we focus on the shaded area, for example, and draw/paint that, then focus on the lit areas and draw/paint those, we will be creating work based on two different exposure levels, which leads to flat and confusing drawings. This is certainly applied to composition (it's the massing in stage where you group values together) and it can also be used as a tool to help bring focus to certain features (which really is still about composition, but it could relate to one subject in your drawing).
@@song4night Actually, the course just goes into a few exercises on and around this. I learned most of what I know on UA-cam and in books. Courses provide direction and structure, yes, but you don't need them.
I don’t think value is as important to humans as you say. Color is everything when you looking for something in among other things. If I moo Kong for a red book on my bookshelf I look for the do,or red first. Red and black have almost the same value but I would never mistake a black book for a red book, unless I was in light so dim as to not show color at all.
I understand what you mean, but it’s thought we see the world in about 80% value alone. So while we can navigate it in black and white we would not be able to properly move around only seeing colour. That also said, I totally agree that colour contrast is, of course, still important and impactful. It can excite us or calm us in a way values can’t as easily!
I don't understand why 'realistic art' is a quest. Surely, photography meets that criteria. Take Cezanne for example, his work seems intentionally flat, presumably based on the adage take anything to an extreme and it often produces the opposite :-)
@@AndyHartStudio it’s an interesting query. Ultimately, some people like chocolate and some don’t. There isn’t usually a reason, it’s just who they are. When it comes to drawing it’s much the same. I naturally incline towards a representational approach and enjoy the challenge. It’s a bit like doing a sudoku or something, it’s a big puzzle!
Art isnt about learning a set of rules. And most art schools do not teach them. The artistic process is so individual to a person that learning a lot of rules tends to interfere with that expression more than empower it. Rules of art are for people who want to publish books or amateurs who want a quick fix, but its all kind of meaningless. It is about the process and the practice and no set of rules will replace that. In fact my best teachers would just sort of roll their eyes whenever a student would start quoting rules to them.
I have to say I am very much in two minds about that. On the one hand, expressionist artists have a practice that can be lead by many things, but not so much art theory. However, artists who are interested in realism and representational art will find studying art theory useful to their interests. At university, I went to explore and improve my representational work, however, I got 0 tuition and a fat load of disappointment as tutors droned on about psychology etc, 'the gallery as a white cube' which wasn't at all aligned with what I was interested in. I think this is where the term 'art' and 'artist' has been stretched too broadly over a vast variety of different disciplines. To one person art could be something they hang on a wall, to another it's an immersive experience found in a gallery.
I think it's a shame that many art teachers and colleges teach very little that's useful. Eg about composition or colour or value or techniques. People learning graphics learn more imo..
"Art isn't about rules" sounds like a rule. 😂 There's the expression side of art - what the artist wants to communicate and the technique side - how to manipulate a medium. The more you know about technique, the more ways you have to express yourself. Art classes should TEACH technique and leave the expression choices to the artist. The problem is that teaching is also an art form. Just because you are an artist doesn't mean you know how to teach. Many art classes end up being places to practice creating in a group while still trying to figure out HOW to create on your own because the instructor can't actually teach or won't because they are too worried about infringing on personal expression, which is very frustrating for art students paying for classes. All the instructor has to do is derferiniat between technique and expression. A student can express thenseves on their own time - if they have the techniques. "Art has no rules" is an excuse for people who don't want to learn them or who don't know how to teach them. Being self-taught is also a way to go, in which you figure things out on your own, reinventing the wheel as you go. You may come up with a whole different way of expression that is more original than if you'd been taught technique or you may end up with a whole lot of bad habits. If you want to avoid any art rules (which for mature artists, become guidelines), then you better stay away from videos like this! Thank you, Emily, for teaching practical information!
And those who don't follow the rules because they never knew the rules will never surpass those who broke the rules after first MASTERING the rules. You will never surpass them (us). It is the reason why my art continues to improve... ...because I know the rules, then I break them and go beyond.
That's a lovely way of explaining it! For realism, I think that's a great explanation. You can still expose for shadows, and many great artists over the years have done this but 'don't get muddy in the middle' is a great concept to keep in mind!
Arguably everything is a design choice, but for realism, knowing more about value and how manipulating it in different ways creates different effects is really useful.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 still, realism is also a design choice. The goal is to tell the story in most effective way to bring out specific emotions in the audience.
Yeah the intro sucked, oh well, live and learn. Actually, I give away lots for free, a membership is far more about structured learning than anything else. The Draftsmen Podcast, by Proko, do some great episodes talking about self-directed vs structured learning.
I do create, but not for online audiences, that happens off-screen. This whole channel and everything you see, is a business, it's very different. While I totally agree that this script needs shredding and redoing - the curse of working alone - there's information in that video that is genuinely helpful. I can't tell you how many people draw everything they can see into every corner of an image (when trying to create representational work, I must caveat), and wonder why it looks less and less real the more details they add. This is one of the reasons! 🙂
I once heard an interview with the musician Jewel where she explained how taking voice lessons turned out to be a huge mistake. It look away her natural God given voice. As an artist (painter, builder, woodworker, etc.) I find it valuable to create from a 100% pure authentic space. I personally would never take an art class. That being said; To each his/her own. 🙏
I entirely get your perspective, I guess this is very much the 'craft' side of things when it's result driven. However, the act of creating because you want to be creative is quite different, the drive there is the experience. My own personal work leaves a lot of this stuff behind because I just enjoy creating and don't have a focus on the outcome so much.
Depends how you've been learning etc. It took me a while to discover some good resources as I didn't have any external direction or help so I seemed to skip a few major building blocks along the way!
Not quite sure what you mean, but if this isn’t useful of course don’t listen! It’s about finding resources that click with you, and a lot of the time exploratory work is most valuable. I used a mix of resources and personal art development and still do 😊
I suspect the graph that describes what you’re talking about is more of a bell-shaped curve: ie, low level of detail at low light levels (dark), maximum detail at medium light levels, and low detail (again) at very high light levels.
Can you tell I colour in for a living and left maths behind? You're totally right! 🤫
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 it’s not as difficult as it might seem, if you commit to thinking it through. I don’t know whether UA-cam allows you to edit your videos, but, I recommend, for your audience, that you correct it, however way you can.
Me getting stuck looking at the graph thinking exactly this. 😆
Agreed. She has unwittingly draw an 'error function' curve which is the integral of the curve which makes sense for her to have drawn ( the 'normal distribution' or 'Gaussian' curve)
@@shillanassi yeah you can't edit videos unfortunately, except to make them shorter, you can't upload a revised version and have it appear in the same link, with all the comments and views still intact, etc. You have to upload it as a totally separate video.
For those struggling with this, she is using the term 'value' to mean tonal value - the spectrum between dark and light regardless of colour or anything else. So many people use the term value without the required explanation of what value they mean.
I’ve also used the incorrect graph, bad day at work it seems! All I need now is a spelling mistake, which I’m sure will be in there…
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“Mistakes” are just one of the many things that make us relatable! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Thank you. 😊
As a professional artist myself, let me tell you there’s more to being an artist than learning ‘value compression’, as you term it. There are so many other factors involved and it takes years of practice. Honestly! There’s no sudden revelation or method that will instantly transform your art. All you need to do is keep painting and drawing.
“…all you need to do…” So, you get paid. That doesn’t “sell” me that you’re an artist. Art and its expression is in the mind of the beholder and the doer…one walk through a modern “ art” museum and one realizes it’s all an illusion of the mind. One person’s precious is another’s daily garbage collection.
@@pohkeee Whatever.
Of course there's more to it, however, my personal experience was that this idea really suddenly helped me make sense of a lot of what I was struggling with. For me it was a light bulb moment, it might not be for others, because I guess some people innately understand these things but may struggle elsewhere. I also think there's a lot to be said for ways of thinking/learning. I had this idea in front of me many times before it clicked because I simply hadn't come across an explanation that resonated with my way of thinking, which is interesting.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 That’s it! There’s so much to painting! It can take a long time before you really get ‘sorted’ with it, and your head too!
Theres volumes of art "rules". None of them are absolutes. It all depends on the person, what they want to achieve, & the tools they have to do the work with. Some people just can't see things others can. Our brains process information differently. Good to be aware of things though..even if it doesn't quite sink in.
"Compression simplifies what we see into a handful of key values" - this sentence is a key to a goldmine! Thank you Emily!
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Mercifully you never need have face to face conversation with rude people. Fortunately their comments boost your channel so regard them positively even if they are rude. There is always a nice way of bringing the same message across. You be you, definitely helped some who never commented ❤🎉
Cheers Amanda, I know the script sucked but all the same! I have to agree, every comment only pushes the video further, so bring it on I guess.
It would have been nice to actually have some visual examples to explain what you were talking about.
I felt as though the video was getting a bit long, but, If you look at Sorolla's work, you'll see that many of his bright beach scenes have these incredibly saturated white areas, while figures beneath shaded canopies include details. One I love is 'Sewing the Sail', you'll see the areas of dappled sun are a flat application of paint artsandculture.google.com/asset/sewing-the-sail-joaquin-sorolla-y-bastida/ggHMkbvZk1yLaw?hl=en
Likewise, turn to almost any Caravaggio piece and he uses chiaroscuro lighting where the shadows are totally void of detail and the scene is dramatically illuminated for maximum details in those areas. Most portraits use the effect of 'flat' shadows and detailed midtones, John Singer Sargent did it a lot :)
Looking through old masters' work, you'll start to discover some really interesting manipulations of value!
She made a whole animation for you to explain what she's talking about!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820Very helpful, TY for these examples. I found your nuggets of gold. I was listening.
@@marymc9601 Glad you found it useful!
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Disagree. Spent my entire 1st year at university working oils in greyscale til I truly loathed painting for a time.
The animation didn’t convince me, examples are needed, either the tutor’s work or the Masters. Examples in real time on video - no one is able to steal the work product from this course from a few minutes - rather it would inspire.
Finding the lively discussions throughout comments are great!
Ps. Changed uni - barely heard the word value again over next 3 years.
Graduated with honours
One online art school I attended trained us to draw and paint in a four- value scale system. It absolutely works.
Yup I studied with 3 values, it helps with decision making.
That's totally true, if you're into tonalism or realism then this is the place to start...and on toned paper, not white!
I agree. Four is a nice round number. It feels solid and unpretentious too.
@@6drk6mrc6 Actually you might be right. Best to keep it simple. 4 tones could be a bit confusing for some people.
I have been an artist from childhood, sold my-first paintings at 9 years old, I think you continue learning all your life with something you love. I appreciate you sharing something that helped you so much. That’s why I love the art world, even though you have a few people who think too much of themselves, the majority are willing to share their experience with up and coming artists. Thank you for being generous.
Thanks Monica and I have to agree, it took me a long old time to find nuggets of information because nobody seemed willing to share everything. It’s a very strange niche to be in!
Values do all the heavy lifting, while colour gets all the credit.
Indeed they do! But I have to say I have a deep love of colour, but I enjoy playing with colour and value together, I've realised it's that relationship which interests me most.
Someone's got to do it.
It's great to see artists explaining the importance of value. I heard Marco Bucci say that not having control over your values immediately shows the difference between a professional and amateur artist, or an artist that does or doesn't know what they're doing. Once I'd heard that, every piece of art I saw afterwards immediately demonstrated that.
I still struggle with values, I have to say, but keeping it front of mind is the best thing to do if you want to create representational artwork!
@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 Well, I hope it's one of those struggles that inspires you to keep striving, rather than the opposite. So many of us have been put off art due to the eternal struggle and negative self-talk. I've definitely gone through phases of that, but fortunately I keep coming back to it.
I had a look at your website after discovering your UA-cam channel this morning. Your art is so beautiful and masterful. Your skill with fur is just so wonderful to look at. It reminds me of the animal illustrator Therese Larsson, although you're both different.
I wish you all the very best.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 I struggle with value too🤣
Paraphrasing for my own learning:
"Learn to compress similar values into a single value (rather than many), and put details either into the shadows or the details, but not both."
Thank you! And the comments down here about making images with only three to four values are helpful for getting into a value-based mindset too!!
I have a background in photography. The same concepts you describe here are known in the photography world as "dynamic range". If you're photographing a sunset, and want to adjust the exposure so you can see the nuances of color variation in the clouds, don't expect to see any details of the trees in the foreground. At the same time if you want to make out the texture of the trees, you can expect the sky to be bright and overexposed. Many cameras have a High Dynamic Range (HDR) mode which will take multiple exposures, and then computationally assemble an image that has details in both the shadows and the light. The HDR feature typically produces weird uncanny results in the final image. It's just not how we see the world.
Thank you. Your explanation is a lesson in itself and you have done it so succinctly.
Brilliant analogy. Very new to the concepts of "making art", and found myself fumbling to understand. We've all taken photos, though, and this completely opened my understanding. Thank you!
I should have had you write my script, thanks very much for your beautiful explanation, and might I say, without the sass. I rather wish photography was part of art tuition, it would help so much.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 "...and I might say, without the sass." Emily Rose, after reading many of the comments here, I have a few things to say: There was A LOT of "sass" (though I would likely have used a different term for it!), and you have handled it with real grace. Where you could have been defensive or snarky, you were self-deprecating, non-defensive, and added to a real discussion. Bravo! 🙏
@@JordanHunter333 Thanks Jordan, I appreciate that!
This is excellent information,,,,,did you ever notice the vast majority of art books chapter one (you know, the chapter we all skip over to get the 5 page step-by-step in color demonstration), is VALUES!!!! Milford Zornes, a true legend of a watercolor painter said," if you want your painting to read from across the room, put a lighter value next to a darker value next to a lighter value next to a darker value etc! Good stuff!!!!
Hmmm, I was thinking the same thing Don. So why did it take Emily 10 years to get to it? 🤣
What a wonderfully well produced video! Very well-deserving of the number of views. Subscribed and excited to see what content you put out next!
What was value called previously?
I did art in high-school in the 1960's. Never heard of values
You may know it as tone? The terms value and tone are used interchangeably and often put together as 'tonal value'. It means of describing how light or dark something is :)
Hi Emily and thank you for your video. I am interested to learn from you about value compression. I do not want to learn pastel. I am a watercolor painter and would love to know more only about value compression. Is there any lesson about it?
Hi Tina, Thanks very much. You know, I would go and look at the old masters work and also look into the Florence Academy style of learning. It will have a lot more information for you. They will talk about 'massing' values and simplifying form into big areas of dark and midtone, with only a few highlights. Many teachers offer free sessions on UA-cam, have a Google about, I'm sure you'll find something useful :)
@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 Thank you Emily 🥰
@@tinapetviashvili Enjoy exploring!
Been an Artist since I cane remember and that timy presentation articulated in what I was thinking as i am struggling with a piece I am doing right now. Thank you for this great presentation!!!
@@lancimusprime9488 so glad it’s helped you!
OMG what a discovery. Thanks 10 times. It took me so many years of reading, scketching, painting to discover Simplicity, and I'm going into that picture. So true.
Thanks so much, glad it was useful!
Do you have an older artwork to show with the newer artwork? Before and after you came to this realization? Also, thanks for the video.
Sadly no! I was looking for some, but I didn’t take any photos of my earlier art work and I’ve thrown everything out 😳 really kicking myself now as I’d love to have done a live review of it and digitally improve it!
To all artists, of which I only (dabble)…I’d like to say thank you!…to me the quality of life is directly tied to the level of conscious awareness that a being can maintain….Artist, like yourself Emily, have such a deep and beautiful presence! Your artwork is a wonderful expression of that ….creativity is one of if not the most enjoyable divine quality we share, it’s so inspirational to become aware of someone who has taken that deeper level of consciousness, and created a world like the one you share with us!
Thank you for this video! The importance of value can't be understated. I was fortunate to learn about it when studying traditional pixel art, which requires making very specific decisions to create the illusion of shape. Once you understand value in the context of only 3 or 4 values at a time, you can simplify your art in nearly any medium!
Correct,
Something I learned recently when following a tutorial for making quick concept sketches.
It was impressive how just a few values covered a lot of the bases for a rather nice drawing.
I have 6 diplomas. And have been reading and studying all my life. I compose music - paint pictures - photograph - write stories - narrate books ----- I didn't understand this concept.
Hi David, I put the wrong graph on screen, sorry, it should have been a Bell Curve!
Why is everyone judging?
@@Remember2gethr haha this made me laugh! I was asking myself the same thing at first, but I guess it's a hobby, we all have to have one ;)
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 ohh...that makes a pretty huge difference lol
@@Remember2gethr because I actually wanted to learn - and I did not
You can commit atrocities with colour as long as your values are good. Your art will still read. For example look at Francois Neilly`s work.
Interesting video, hadn't heard about this compression term. Will search to read more about it, thanks!
Glad you found it helpful! It was an eye opener when it clicked for me 👩🎨
I am not an artist but this video interested me a lot. Yet, I would have liked some examples from your paintings to understand better. Thank you though. This video made me desire to learn this subject.
Thank You a Lot !! 🎉You are a great teacher. I'm so excited to continue painting 🙂
Thanks!
One way I found to get better at this is to look at and study black-and white photographs, and to do greyscale drawings. In the absence of color it's so much easier for me to see and appreciate line, shape, form, highlight, and shadow. I found I can do quite a lot with just 4 grey pencils and a black one. Thank you for this video!
Completely agree with you, I do this quite a lot as well. You can also photograph your paints or pencils and turn it to greyscale. It's not perfect, but it does help. Notans, or thumbnails, can help too :)
the point starts at 4:00
Haha sort of and sort of not. For some people, you’re going to want to watch the whole thing as it can be confusing to be dumped in the explanation if this is completely new. Either way though, I hope you’ve found it useful!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 at 4:00
To start it a 4 mins would be missing the point of this video.
@@adamthorntonillustration9281 the point of the video is to talk about the things she wants to talk about ?
Oh boy, I just felt a huge rabbit hole open up. Thank you.
So this is the perfect video. I should probably get back to work.
I agree Value , or recognizing Value is important in making art, especially in realism. I taught the Elements and Principles of art in my classes for fifteen years. Some students would come in the first day thinking they were already a good artist. Only to learn they didn't know the Elements or Principles of art. This information is foundational to good art and design. Many students who could draw or paint well also suffered from not understanding Value or Contrast. I see so much today that demonstrates the artist or designer, or even film directors don't understand Contrast. Contrast is vital, hence an understanding of Value is as well.❤
The trick is seeing art in everything. Seeing junk as potential art . Everything you see can be made into or used in an artwork. Anything you make is your Art. Whether it's good or bad is subjective. Don't be discouraged by someone's opinion when they negate your work. ❤
Ive made art from totally found materials which sold quickly. As the negative comments from art critics poured in, I was laughing all the way to the bank. Just remember, even critics are brainwashed into thinking they have the final word. Keep in mind many critics would praise work only to learn a three year old made it. 😂
Knowing the complete language of any course of study is the ultimate goal. Whether it is performing, sports, working, business, arts, or science. The total comprehension of all the components and how they work together and in variation can determine the individual's level of mastery. This video highlights levels of color and light importance but without perspective and dimension there is nothing to gauge where the reflections originate or how contrast magnifies the lighter levels. Dritz Rainbow color wheel, a Value Scale, Color Mixing Wheel and View Finder or Grid and a Proportional Dividing compass are all just helpful tools for beginners to masters.
Very very true, I don't disagree at all, I just wanted to focus on one thing that helped me a lot for this video. I
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Thought so. 🤔🙂
I'd like to add in that value is important in any 2D art regardless of whether it is representational or not. It might be even more important in abstract or non-representational art. In those cases, the artist's manipulation of elements and principles is what carries the weight. Subject doesn't help.
Oh totally agree, value, or edges caused by the contrast of values, are going to draw the eye and hold our gaze!
You are correct, values are so important and the differences in them in creating a mood or time of day. I’ve always liked the Munsell Color Tree as help referencing value to color. Thanks!
Yes tools like the Munsell tree are great for visualising where colours sit! It’s a great way to start building a limited palette too
I’m 67. I’ve been drawing and painting all my life and have never even pretended to know anything about ‘value compression’. It sounds like bunkum to me. Just draw and paint what you see, folks!
I love you Mark🥰
Sigh... because you probably inherently understand it from your decades of experience, even if you can't explain why you do certain things. The problem with "painting what you see" is you end up NOT painting what you see. Like if you have a still life setup, if you actually look at one item in the setup, everything else around it isn't in focus in your vision, you see it peripherally as your eyes are focused on that one thing. But when you paint the still life, you work from one item to the next to the table to the background, and all will have the same level of focus and clarity because your eyes are adjusting for each object. But in reality when you see the setup, you don't see everything in focus or emphasized at the same time. Same with why working from photos can be challenging, because the camera can flatten depth, change colours, and make way more in focus than your eyes do. Don't come and "old man painter" someone who's trying to help others, your advice to basically wing it is less than helpful for people who are wanting to learn and get better (or as Emily said, finally have something "click" that makes a world of difference in how you see and how you paint).
Thanks @peacockandfig, that's exactly what I'm trying to say! It's useful for those interested in art theory.
Where's the Value Framework PDF? I clicked, subscribed, and confirmed but don't see this document. Thank you
Hi vista, it should have shown up on the screen, but if that didn’t work then check your junk mail 😊 it’s set up to be emailed straight out to you!
@ Thanks. It turned up in my inbox…just not right away 🙏
@@vista5169 ah phew!
Wow, youre such a professional and pedagogical speaker, it is very enjoyable to watch and listen to you! I am so glad that I found you!
Thank you! I’m glad you found it useful 😊
Seems you were ‘taught’ good values ❤
For those of you that can’t buy the lesson, do distillation studies or 3-5 value studies. That’s the same thing.
As a life coach this helped so much when it comes to manifesting. Thank you
Where is the actor’s studio for artists? What if you’re not very imaginative? Who writes your lines?
Hi Scasey, I don't quite understand what you mean I'm afraid. Sadly, I wrote a lot of this while fueled on caffeine in one of those 'I'm on fire, I'm could do everything all at once' type of moments. Turns out I was very wrong, but that makes it kinda funny now!
I'm thinking now... Could this idea be applied to other arts? Like narrative or music? Th idea of creating a pallete of detail degree in specific areas sounds really interesting.
Such an interesting idea! I mean, I guess most often you have bass as the supporting tones. They keep the rhythm, they provide a sort of cushion for sound as a tone we can't hear as easily, or as clearly. Then as you get into higher pitches, that's where the melody is usually found, in the flute, obe, violins and so on. If the melody dies down, we can hear the bass more easily, if it's louder, we can't distinguish the bass as easily, but you can still hear that it's there...feels like a nice symmetry...
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 sounds have their equivalent in colors, everything is frequency, we can see this applied in everything, intentionally or accidentaly, if we pay attention, am I tripping too much here hahaha
@@ardidsonriente2223a tip from one of my professors was to think about music when composing a painting. Kinda the reverse of what you’re talking about. But there are similar ideas in both.
A painting , like a piece of music can be wild and lively or repetitive and dull etc. There are a lot of parallels when you think about it. Just one reaches the heart through the eyes and the other through the ears.
It was a tip that I have found very useful.
Nice presentation as an introduction to values. Thank you!
Thank you!
How can you leave rubik's cube unsolved like that?
@@RCHRD444 haha I was waiting for someone to notice it!! I used to do it all the time as a kid, but I was no genius, I learnt a method …it’s more like a meditation for me.
Thank you. A short and sweet take on things. And I do routinely fall into the trap of trying to overly detail light and shadow to the detriment of both. I will try focusing more on one or the other and see how that helps my work.
Good luck with it! It does make a difference, trust the process to the end of the painting
I am one minute in and I'm struggling to hear you over the music, I hope it'll go away soon. It went away about 20 seconds later! Yay! Interesting video, Thanks!
Sorry Suza, the mixing was so much quieter in edit, it's a note for next time!
Turn sound off and read captions... It helps
I think it's a shame that many art teachers and colleges teach very little that's useful. Eg about composition or colour or value or techniques. People learning graphics learn more imo.
Graphics and illustration...I wish I had taken either at Uni! We got no life drawing, no theoretical help, nothing. Meanwhile, I'd sneak onto the illustration course life drawing sessions!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 yeh main thing I remember from art school is being made to stand up in front of a crowd of people to justify your work using approved concepts and language.
@@alicequayle4625 sounds identical to mine!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820it is bonkers about having to use like a special magic language and that was most of the emphasis of the course. The best painter in our year (fine art) was kicked off the course because he was dyslexic. In retrospect I'd probably do illustration because you'd hopefully be taught more skills.
@@alicequayle4625 Oh my word, mental! In contrast they wanted all of us to have dyslexia tests so they could get extra funding
Thank you!
Welcome!
Great video! Thank you! And so true❤
Thanks for watching!
Yes, there is a reason why they get you to make a tonal scale and a still life in black and white.
I just wish I had appreciated it way back in school!
the middle part of the video, without the background music, allows a person to concentrate. otherwise best to fast-forward the first and last parts.
Agreed, I messed up on this!
My daughter, a graphics designer, also explained this to me. But she said it's only useful to someone who has already developed drawing skills and is struggling to make their work more accessible.
Yes and no, I used this idea (but taking it further into chiaroscuro lighting), with my 8 year old cousin about ten years ago. I got her to focus on big shapes (she was trying to draw a face), and her work went from unrealistic and flat, with the features too spread out, to something that looked far more realistic and the proportions improved straight away. Interesting exercise.
Yes I also agree, I can relate to what you say, I also have been practicing for about 10 years, it will be that much next year. So i' m interested in what you say. Best wishes 🤞❤💞 , thanks again for sharing.
Thanks Karen :)
May inspire viewers to become pupils if they see artwork you’re creating and the finished work.
As you paint - explain a fragment of how the value brings your work to life ( working in greyscale probs look flat on video )
Sadly I haven't always got time for that kind of thing, these videos can take a good week to make!
Thank you for sharing your insights ❤
You're so welcome! I love to hear how other people explain this idea, one day you just come across the explanation that clicks with you :)
As an artist, value understanding is very important. I cannot criticize you for this video, however, value is a small part of creating art, realism or otherwise, but, if understanding value was missing from your education and this approach helped "you" then I pat you on the back, good job. Unless the university you attended was teaching "modern" art as real art, which of course it is not, understanding value, rather value composition, along with line composition, color composition, shape composition, etc, etc, is usually your basic beginning courses, BUT the greatest lesson taught, was WORK< WORK < WORK!
Yeah, sadly my university taught me absolutely nothing at all. The whole course was theoretical teaching, all about the idea behind the work...they actively discouraged representational draw,ing painting or creating anything in a traditional way which was such a let down.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 Ah, I understand now why value was a revelation to you. That sucks that you paid for a crappy art education.
One enigma that remains is how pianists tend to end up under vids about the visual arts. Pianists of the world! I beg you! Stay clear!!!
Haha this made me laugh!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 Me too🤣
I am having a hard time understanding… are you talking about creating compositions that purposefully brings certain subject matter into focus?
Yes and no. I'm talking more broadly about 'translating' what we see into an art medium and also trying to keep in mind that if we focus on the shaded area, for example, and draw/paint that, then focus on the lit areas and draw/paint those, we will be creating work based on two different exposure levels, which leads to flat and confusing drawings. This is certainly applied to composition (it's the massing in stage where you group values together) and it can also be used as a tool to help bring focus to certain features (which really is still about composition, but it could relate to one subject in your drawing).
she wants you to take her course
@@song4night Actually, the course just goes into a few exercises on and around this. I learned most of what I know on UA-cam and in books. Courses provide direction and structure, yes, but you don't need them.
This would have helped me more if you had defined 'value' at the start of the video.
Friendly pretty and yet, just introductory to color scale.
I teach my art students that value and shape are critical.
Good one. Thank you!
Thanks!
I don’t think value is as important to humans as you say. Color is everything when you looking for something in among other things. If I moo Kong for a red book on my bookshelf I look for the do,or red first. Red and black have almost the same value but I would never mistake a black book for a red book, unless I was in light so dim as to not show color at all.
I understand what you mean, but it’s thought we see the world in about 80% value alone. So while we can navigate it in black and white we would not be able to properly move around only seeing colour. That also said, I totally agree that colour contrast is, of course, still important and impactful. It can excite us or calm us in a way values can’t as easily!
Thanks that made a lot of sense
Thank you!
I don't understand why 'realistic art' is a quest. Surely, photography meets that criteria. Take Cezanne for example, his work seems intentionally flat, presumably based on the adage take anything to an extreme and it often produces the opposite :-)
@@AndyHartStudio it’s an interesting query. Ultimately, some people like chocolate and some don’t. There isn’t usually a reason, it’s just who they are. When it comes to drawing it’s much the same. I naturally incline towards a representational approach and enjoy the challenge. It’s a bit like doing a sudoku or something, it’s a big puzzle!
Art isnt about learning a set of rules. And most art schools do not teach them. The artistic process is so individual to a person that learning a lot of rules tends to interfere with that expression more than empower it. Rules of art are for people who want to publish books or amateurs who want a quick fix, but its all kind of meaningless. It is about the process and the practice and no set of rules will replace that. In fact my best teachers would just sort of roll their eyes whenever a student would start quoting rules to them.
I have to say I am very much in two minds about that. On the one hand, expressionist artists have a practice that can be lead by many things, but not so much art theory. However, artists who are interested in realism and representational art will find studying art theory useful to their interests.
At university, I went to explore and improve my representational work, however, I got 0 tuition and a fat load of disappointment as tutors droned on about psychology etc, 'the gallery as a white cube' which wasn't at all aligned with what I was interested in.
I think this is where the term 'art' and 'artist' has been stretched too broadly over a vast variety of different disciplines. To one person art could be something they hang on a wall, to another it's an immersive experience found in a gallery.
I think it's a shame that many art teachers and colleges teach very little that's useful. Eg about composition or colour or value or techniques. People learning graphics learn more imo..
"Art isn't about rules" sounds like a rule. 😂
There's the expression side of art - what the artist wants to communicate and the technique side - how to manipulate a medium. The more you know about technique, the more ways you have to express yourself. Art classes should TEACH technique and leave the expression choices to the artist. The problem is that teaching is also an art form. Just because you are an artist doesn't mean you know how to teach. Many art classes end up being places to practice creating in a group while still trying to figure out HOW to create on your own because the instructor can't actually teach or won't because they are too worried about infringing on personal expression, which is very frustrating for art students paying for classes. All the instructor has to do is derferiniat between technique and expression. A student can express thenseves on their own time - if they have the techniques. "Art has no rules" is an excuse for people who don't want to learn them or who don't know how to teach them.
Being self-taught is also a way to go, in which you figure things out on your own, reinventing the wheel as you go. You may come up with a whole different way of expression that is more original than if you'd been taught technique or you may end up with a whole lot of bad habits. If you want to avoid any art rules (which for mature artists, become guidelines), then you better stay away from videos like this! Thank you, Emily, for teaching practical information!
I agree 100%. I just left virtually the same comment. 🙏
And those who don't follow the rules because they never knew the rules will never surpass those who broke the rules after first MASTERING the rules. You will never surpass them (us).
It is the reason why my art continues to improve...
...because I know the rules, then I break them and go beyond.
You probably had something great to say, but the music was so loud and 'busy' I couldn't hear what you were saying. Dropped out at 1:30.
I think this is saying learn from Caravaggio, Rembrandt, and Turner.
If you're into realism, then I couldn't agree more...but might add Sargent to the list, love his work!
Thank you for this.
Thank you!
Thx
Cinematographers use the IRE Scale on a digital spot meter ... gives you a range of tonal values, equivalent to 1: 32
Amazing, thanks!
A shorter introduction that doesnt take 50% of the video before video is even starts would make more sense.
Wouldn't it just? We live and learn I guess!
Thank you.
Thank you!
I thought good art was like good music- lots of contrast from light to dark but don't get muddy in the mids .....
That's a lovely way of explaining it! For realism, I think that's a great explanation. You can still expose for shadows, and many great artists over the years have done this but 'don't get muddy in the middle' is a great concept to keep in mind!
Big promise - no payoff.
I need to work on this, back to the drawing board I go.
No it's not about either the materials or the technique.It's about the FAME
Guess I better get on and pop my clogs then - once dead, I’ll be famous for sure 😉
Value curve is a design choice. Not a principle.
Arguably everything is a design choice, but for realism, knowing more about value and how manipulating it in different ways creates different effects is really useful.
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 still, realism is also a design choice. The goal is to tell the story in most effective way to bring out specific emotions in the audience.
@@NajamQureshi totally agree! Strangely my personal work moves away from realism, probably so that I'm not as bound by realism 'rules'!
Good start, but not quite there🤔
Dynamic range 😂
I don’t get values 😵💫
I think you need to do the tonal scale and the black and white still life.😬
@ yeah getting it slowly but surely.
I love this video
Thanks so much!
I did not receive enough teaching to understand this concept in your video. :(
I am so impressed by Ms. Rose's intelligence AND passion. Amazing!
I sure do have a passion for the nerdy side of art, thank you!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820I think it goes far deeper than that. Extraordinary video.
Skip the first two minutes, then you will see what it's all about. This woman is extremely wordy.
I am indeed
I wonder if deer understand value since they will wander in front of a moving car…🤔
Haha this is very true! I guess their flight or fight response hasn’t caught up to modern day!
Another “in my membership” your intro was way too long. But, thanks for sharing.
Yeah the intro sucked, oh well, live and learn. Actually, I give away lots for free, a membership is far more about structured learning than anything else. The Draftsmen Podcast, by Proko, do some great episodes talking about self-directed vs structured learning.
I reallllly want to watch this but I find the music too loud and distracting 😞
Yeah, sorry about that!
100 Hue Test ... will give you a "rosette" of how you, personally see, colour
Oh wow, thank you!
Well - That told me nothing!
The bollocks... Artists create, influencers babble.
I do create, but not for online audiences, that happens off-screen. This whole channel and everything you see, is a business, it's very different. While I totally agree that this script needs shredding and redoing - the curse of working alone - there's information in that video that is genuinely helpful. I can't tell you how many people draw everything they can see into every corner of an image (when trying to create representational work, I must caveat), and wonder why it looks less and less real the more details they add. This is one of the reasons! 🙂
What if we duct tape a banana to the wall and call it a day?
I'm up for that, it sounds like my degree all over again to be honest
It's gamma correction
Holy cow!
Talk about being long winded
I have been known to go on, this one time, at art camp …read more
You lost me on pupils 😢
Fair enough! It's all about finding the right explanation for you, I hope you find something that clicks!
Ansel Adams
Thanks for this!
Great ❤
Thank you!
I once heard an interview with the musician Jewel where she explained how taking voice lessons turned out to be a huge mistake. It look away her natural God given voice. As an artist (painter, builder, woodworker, etc.) I find it valuable to create from a 100% pure authentic space. I personally would never take an art class. That being said; To each his/her own. 🙏
I entirely get your perspective, I guess this is very much the 'craft' side of things when it's result driven. However, the act of creating because you want to be creative is quite different, the drive there is the experience. My own personal work leaves a lot of this stuff behind because I just enjoy creating and don't have a focus on the outcome so much.
Well it’s not like this is unknown if you are serious about art… but thanx for sharing.
Depends how you've been learning etc. It took me a while to discover some good resources as I didn't have any external direction or help so I seemed to skip a few major building blocks along the way!
So if learning art is so simple why shouldn't update we spend time listening to you?
Not quite sure what you mean, but if this isn’t useful of course don’t listen! It’s about finding resources that click with you, and a lot of the time exploratory work is most valuable. I used a mix of resources and personal art development and still do 😊
The music is louder than your voice.
I know, I'm kicking myself. In post it was absolutely fine, uploaded and it's a pile of mush!