Can we make sense of Biden's "Israeli" ceasefire proposal? with Ali Abunimah
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- On Friday, US President Joe Biden made an unexpected speech laying out what he called an Israeli proposal that would lead to a permanent ceasefire in Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Confusion quickly ensued as the Israeli government described Biden’s call for a permanent ceasefire as a “nonstarter.” How could the Israeli government be publicly undermining what was said to be its own proposal?
Nonetheless Biden’s speech indicated that as the US election looms, his administration appears eager to end a war of extermination it continues to arm and enable, albeit without taking effective steps to halt Israel’s killing campaign and paying the political price of a complete about-face.
Ali Abunimah discusses the prospects for a ceasefire with Nora Barrows-Friedman.
Nora Barrows-Friedman, Asa Winstanley, Ali Abunimah and Jon Elmer of The Electronic Intifada were joined by Helena Cobban on the day 243 of the livestream. You can watch the entire broadcast here: ua-cam.com/users/liveSqCbhhONu7Q
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We must not be silent while witnessing injustice. Israel is committing war crimes and US is complicit in those crimes
Yes, that's correct.
Thank you for posting that. But you need to put down your iPhone and go out and get arrested at a protest, like we did 50 years ago to get black people equal rights and stop the war in Vietnam.
I believe that Palestinian people has earned their independence.
The World wants peace in the Middle East. Hezbollah attacked lsreal and started another war. What do the people of the World think about "jihad" now?
Israel needs to give back all of those lands they stolen or it might be taken from them too!
They “earned” it before “Israel” was imposed on them.
What the US and Israel does not seem to comprehend is a very simple concept - the Gaza orphans in 10-20 years from now will seek retribution UNLESS there is a 2 State solution.
"earned"? From whom? US? "Israel"? In 1948 US-Israel violently displaced 700,000 Palestinians from their OWN LAND, and set about subjugating them, further robbing and displacing them, and butchering them with the intended goal of total elimination of all Palestinians FROM THEIR OWN LAND.
Yes. It's double-speak. Gobbledygook.
That is because Joe Biden has lost his acuity.
The pinnacle of arrogance to decide whether Hamas should exist or not..!!!!! Imagine another country made a similar speech about the US…?
Exactly. It's absurdity on the highest level.
What the US and Israel does not seem to comprehend is a very simple concept - the Gaza orphans in 10-20 years from now will seek retribution UNLESS there is a 2 State solution.
@@noahstevens3060 What the US and Israel does not seem to comprehend is a very simple concept - the Gaza orphans in 10-20 years from now will seek retribution UNLESS there is a 2 State solution.
Correct. It's the Empire mentality.
A vague plan by the so called contractor of humanity.
Matthew Miller just lying the whole time as always.
It’s his job after all - to lie.
It's his job.
He is just forced to speak for a senile man.
I cant even make any sense as to why. A distraction? An expensive pre-election show? Palestinians themselves stopped listening for a ceasefire from US forever ago. And right after sending another fighter jet fleet? Just bizarre.
Definitely just election campaign. Otherwise why would a 3rd party country president announce like this
DanaDoe I have tried to reply in detail above, it took 4 pretty long comments, but I have also been working over why they would mess up their own re-election chances in so many areas: they have a 2nd system of $$ support they think will work and a 3rd (illegal and courts interventions) and just do not care !!
Yes. The important thing is what Biden does. He defines himself as a Zionist and is committed to send bombs and ammunition and arms even when not needed. This is just a distraction to make BELIVE that he is perusing peace.
dopey joe is appealing to his pro-palestinian voters...whilst at the same time doing nothing to reign in the mad dog zios
remember, for israel every accusation is a confession
@@Stephen.in.Virginia the answer is simple once you realise biden is surrounded by zio advisers that want him to lose and pro-israel chump to win
his advisers aren't telling dopey joe that he will lose the election and that israel wants him to lose
if he were fully aware of the facts, his attitude to israel would be the complete opposite, he would realise israel and bibi are his enemies, foreign and domestic
How do we know that isn't a ploy to get hostages out and then they go in and destroy the place directly after ?
You know it is
Just wondering if you remember Netanyahu himself and his genocidal cabinets words for the last 8 months.
One of the genocidal cabinet members told us the about resetting in Gaza .
Bingo!
That's exactly what it is. The reason it's so obvious is because it's the work product of a senile mind.
This joker talks from 15 sides of his mouth...
Who said Gaza is prime real estate ?? It was some person ….. Jared was it ?
Yes. He said it. Amongst others.
''the ability to wage war for me, but not for thee..''
Listening to Brandon is a nightmare. He’s reading teleprompters.
Weekend at Brandon's 😂
And cheat sheets .and still he fluffs up
Don't b afraid 2 caII the
WarCrimin@I
Geno$ideJoe
Right? And I thought listening to Trump was bad. At least he was funny.
@@jacquejones96793 and all the liberal media in america said that trump would start wars and start ww3.
Thank you Nora, Ali and EI!
Is simple…this is not a construction project.
Deconstruction project ??> Telecom , Google or AWS Data Center into what I see of the Gaza photos right now are 5 years out, probably never those EU contract workers and electricians are not going to put up with arbitrarily being blown up by drones while sitting in the porta- loo
Spinning so fast State Department is confused
President, US State Dept and NSC are not spinning, they launched straight into war crimes and genocide, without a deep look at constitution or International law
the Genocide instinct and the AIPAC backing instinct in them is strong !!!
They have to voice the decisions of a senile man.
Glad to see you tonight.
The problem the state dept has is that it keeps referring to Hamas as terrorists whereas in fact the state dept is the terrorist.
That plus the underlying fact that the President is senile and therefore no one is in charge.
Always a great report when Nora smiles.
The hypocrisy is mind blowing.
Why not leave the choice to the palestian people to choose their own politicians with election
The entity knows they'll then demand for hamas to remain
Because The Empire does not think that way.
If we consider it stupidity to believe anything the entity says then we must as well maintain the same consideration for it's allies
Thank you ei 🎉🎉
Incredible journalistic work, amazing.
They must think Hamas is naïve, and we all know that this is not the case. And Israel and America have no right to dictate what leaders the Palestinian people choose to have in power. It’s out of their jurisdiction, and amounts to “regime change”
(fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!) I have great respect for Yaya Sinwar 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸👏👍👏
Yes and the US is expert at regime change.
Things are crazy because the President is senile.
I have a hard time understanding him ... he slurs his words ..... ☹️
Yes. Just remember that is the way he is when sitting behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office.
It all sounds like a lot of smoke & mirrors to create false hope for the Pal3stinian people to me.
Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks.
As ridiculous as it gets !
Great coverage
Great information with expert commentary
Thanks for the objective coverage.
I assume there are SC member states that appreciate any enforceable imposition on occupied people to completely disarm is a subversion of law.
(Even the permanent ceasefire is legally absurd. Izrl is obliged by law to not fire on occupied territory and the Palestinian right to resist is persistent while the occupation persists.)
True. But might makes right. And since the President is senile, you get these consequences.
Colonial Fantasy😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉I love it
Obama was not who you many thought he was and his campaign and campaign backers were definitely not serving this nation's interests, as was proven over the next 8 years and continuing now.. The fourth and final horse of the Apocalypse is is pale , upon it rides Death, accompanied by Hades a similar white pale and skinny bigot from Delaware , with thin and badly cut hair. "They were given authority over a quarter of the Earth (Gaza), to kill with sword, famine and plague, and by means of the beasts of the Earth, and a couple of secret presidential executive orders, UK air base in Cyprus and a lifetime of strong AIPAC backing" I am not saying Obama is the anti- whatever, just a d bag who took the money and the grift
Very useful analysis. Thanks
They really underestimate everyone's intelligence don't they?
They realize this, yet must enunciate the decisions of a senile man.
InshaAllah - blessings upon Ei team "Jon, Ali, Nora, Assa, Tamara, all" ... May Allah/Hashem/ Allaha/ Almighty GOD protect you all and may you end up in the line of Almighty GOD'S messengers, the best of us! This is the reward that awaits you, inshaAllah, for fighting to save lives and the weak and oppressed! ALLAH sees you, and sees what you're doing!
My true friend, the USA Government and Israel Government by their very actions are allied enemies up to genocide, of the weak and oppressed, who stand on oil and gas deposits They are only paid henchmen of the rich and well connected, and gain the wages of sin this year, judgement from God in the far off future, and it seems likely, obliteration from their own misdeeds in about 16-19 months because they cannot contain their greed and blood lust for domination
No mention of Palestinian security??🙄
Exactly. BC the US administration doesn’t care about the Pakestininians. If it cared this could have been stopped months and months ago by one phone call from Biden. The puppet masters in control would never permit it. I had my rant in comments above. Nobody buys this BS. Worse than a used car sales pitch.
Typo * Palestinians
If you are familiar with "sunk costs" theory, as it applies to Israel, scholars will also soon come out with the Blinken / Miller / Kirby / Patel theory, that when a country denies and tries to deny or justify genocide on the part of an "ally" when facts of the genocide and crimes are well known and documented in public , the implosion of that country is actually accelerated. It happened to a degree in Vietnam.
Well done
Fancy hosting neoheetler in our white house. Stunning.
Thank you 🙏🏽
Go on!
If you want and insisting that hamas accept the proposal then insist also to israel to accept the proposal both are not yet saying anything its only the US that is talking .... let israel say categorically that they accept the proposal .... then you can say hamas is the problem ...biased again 😊 unceassing biases ..
Miller sounds like a kid tryna make up the rules to a game that already has rules.
He merely enunciates the decisions of a senile President.
Hamas should remember how israel won the 6 day war. They didn't keep to the agreement that was implemented during the war n attacked moments after it was signed
Well said. Thank you
Long live Resistance ❤🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸
Can you make sense of biden
Senile.
If US can not even get aid in and open the crossings or build a so called pier without it breaking but they can guarantee this plan
Of course not. The reason for all of this is because the President is senile.
You spelled it wrong...
It's "Increase fire" plan.
Israel has a very poor track record of honoring any agreements, or international Law. What I take from the speech is that Gaza, as well as its tunnel systems and a Hamas disarmament are requisite for a ceasefire. This renders Gaza open to the Israeli ''lawn mowing'', that the IDF enjoys doing occasionally, with justification as a child throwing a stone. The other issue is the rebuilding. Why does everyone else have to pony up the money to repair damages done by Israel? The Jews are not nice people -> no apologies for that comment.
Partial Solution: All US AID, and all public donatives, directed to Israel will be re-directed to Gaza for rebuilding until the job is done.
Excellent. However since Israel, a foreign power occupies the US government - it will never happen.
China is the obvious candidate to rebuild Gaza. And they are making moves to negotiate this matter right now.
@@W1ZY Those near shore Gazan natural gas fields explain it.
Palestine should vote in their own leaders, democracy right. Let them have elections.
Correct. Kudos for pointing this out.
Thank you guys for bringing us this information daily., we are as gobsmacked as you guys are at the weak and immature manner they treat Israel, always pampering them into a decision and as long as they continue then Israel will continuously treating them like fools and will soon lead to US demise and if the citizenry, continues in this don't care a damn attitude, NOTHING WILL BE LEFT APART FOR PAIN, AGONY AND ANGER TO SEE THE DISIASTEROUS FUTURE THAT AWAITS OUR CHILDREN. Appreciated guys lets persist🙏🏽🙏🏽
It was cover for D DAY...knew world attention would be focused on June 6...cm'on guys...
implement the deal or what exactly? what is the US gonna do when the parties say no?
Cry and blame kkhammus, as usual. Everything is Hamas fault. The European Zionist Nazis are angels. They murdered millions of unarmed Palestinian civilians since 1920s because the Nazis are the victims.
Israel is so obsessed with haggling, they turn down their own proposal.
Monty Python Life of Brian was prophetic.
From what Ive seen its a temporary ceasefire based on negotiations over time
An iron clad idea, like Biden’s pier 😂
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They’re trying to buy their soul
divine will unity as central authority; each person follow God's leadership
Can we trust America
2 minutes silence for the person who will answer with Yes
What's just as bad is that the Israelis are allowing the settlers to gather and to be their scab blockade soldiers, in preventing the trucks from getting through as well!!!!
Put Bidet and satanyahu in jail.
More importantly, can Biden make any sense of supposedly ‘his’ peace proposal?
Of course not. He is senile.
The language used by the US is telling us that an offer was made to the Israelis. One can accept or decline an offer presented them.
Remember, the US is NOT a neutral party, although it is presenting itself as such to the domestic population.
Israel is spelt
Ə. Liars
"The question we have to ask ourselves is not whether we condemn Hamas, but whether we condemn a settler colonial regime that makes armed struggle necessary for survival."
JAMES RAY (Mondoweiss)
Kirby has no conscious, and lies all the time.
This is my opinion, I think if the IDF completely pulled out of Gaza, stopped all bombing of the Palestinians let things calm down let aid into the Palestinians that maybe then there could be some kind of negotiations but until then I think it is never going to happen, just my opinion.
The problem is that Israeli believes all Arabs are "subhuman" (mere human cattles), regardless of what religion or ethnicity they're from. They even believe that Arab Jews are "tainted" and not considered as equals.
How can there be peace with people of such mindset?
Your opinion is shared -
You are not alone.
Your analysis is more accurate than the US State department's.
Stand with Palestine and Axis of Resistance Free Palestine 🇵🇸✌️🙏
Why bother? It is all bs
Phase three should be back to 1967 borders.
Joe slurs his words so often , that If by chance, you see his lips moving, he's lying.
This is the way he is in the Oval Office, which is why US policy is so fucked up.
Now we know where Grima Wormtongue actually went after he killed Saruman..... the US Dept of State employed him and changed his name to Matt Miller
This needs to end. Free Palestine forever!!!!❤️🇵🇸
Another distraction.
What the US and Israel does not seem to comprehend is a very simple concept - the Gaza orphans in 10-20 years from now will seek retribution UNLESS there is a 2 State solution.
LOL😂
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Thank you for your honest journalism. 🩷
Miller your a lier, is that alright to say UA-cam?.
Unfortunately Gaza will not be rebuilt… no matter what the proposals… there is not enough time left for it… our climate is in full collapse… most will not see 2030… guess we need something to do… but don’t hold your breath… or maybe do…🤷♂️
Our climate? 🙄 Maybe you should tell your globalist, marxist masters to stop F-ing with the climate
That is ridiculous.
China can do it.
It it were not so horrifying it would be funny -- dystopian humour could never rise to this farce!
Shifting the goal post
What about israel disarm and not be a threat to Palestine
It is B.S.
Now to the last man standing. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
You might want to limit remarks to the slaughtering of children to depoliticize the call for a ceasefire.
Mission failing worries? Dont push and force Hamas to accept deal let the fight decide as US arms idf
Long live Palestine 🇵🇸❤️ yaşasın özgür Filistin 🇵🇸❤️
Why did Israel allow Hamas to be so heavily armed anyway?
Israel is not as powerful as it purports itself to be. It's only 10 million people. The leaders are equivalent to mayors in a mid-sized American city.
Long Live Palestine,
Long Live As Sham.
Palestine is independent country!!! Get out from Palestine 🇵🇸
Wow! Let's be friends?