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You may consider this comment offensive but it is true none the less. Every time the British stick their noses in to other countries then leaves there has been nothing but a total failure. British empire ways are directly to blame for current problems in the middle east.
Are they though? The British held the region for about 25 years. The ottomans controlled it for 400 years and a lot of the regions problems festered under the ottomans. Particularly poverty and infrastructure degradation.
@hokepoke3540 Between Britain & and US colonial imperialism, they have invaded, stolen resources, massacred, tortured & exploited most of the globe! 🙈 (to present day)
@reubenmcmurray4377 However, we have no 'right' to go thousands of miles to different countries; telling them what is 'best' for them (in the pretence that we are civilised & everyone else are savages) It is none of our business. They had their different tribes, religions, ethnicities, beliefs, cultures, etc. We have no right to think that 'our'way is better, or we know better. Let them sort their own issues out. The US did it to the native Indians! The English (now British) did it to the Irish, the Scottish!; the indigenous aboriginal people. UK & US Govs are actually the savages!
@@sjoormen1 Britain cannot determine or change the nature of those fish. One of the fish species uses mostly American tax dollars to commit war crimes against the other fishies. If Britain is guilty of anything, its failing to condemn those fish. The same fish provided arms to Argentina during the Falklands War. This is a very dodgy fish.
Very very nice video! I found myself wondering what the origins of the Israel Palestine conflict are and needed to know. Now i see that it is more complicated than i first thought and that there are many groups/ countries involved.
How on earth did you get out an informative video with the current UK government's culture wars going on? I really do admire your integrity and courage, for the truth belongs to those with money in this modern world.
Culture wars in Britain? Surely not. I'm an American who lived in Britain for over ten years and nothing I saw there even remotely compares to the American culture wars. There's just the old knee-jerk nationalism where some British people want to be way more of an isolated, insular nation than Britain ever has been and is realistic, given economic and political links to the Continent and world
Just one point; as I understand it, the Sykes-Picot lines were not random doodlings by diplomats, they were based on the Ottoman Administrative regions, as you would expect.
This is actually not true, the city of Rafah was split into two, and divided betw Egypt and mandatory Palastine, after the ottoman defeat in ww1 focourse nobody knew at the time what was being planned for the whole region.
Not at all. You had 3 main entities: The vilayet of Syria, the vilayet of Beirut, and the independant Sanjak of Jerusalem. Wjat became Palestine after world War 1, was Jerusalem. a part of the sanjak of Ma'an (vilayet Syria) the sanjaks of Nablus, most of the Sanjak of Akka, a part of the Beirut Sanjak (all Beirut Vilayet). So yeah, the French and British did draw random lines. Britain had actually sent out an inquiry commission, the king crane commission, to get a feel of how the Arabs felt. Only 1% of local Arabs in the South wanted Palestine to be created. 85% favoured a united Syria. So yeah, fun fact, the main opponents of creating Palestine over a hundred years ago, were the ancestors of the people who call themselves the Palestinian people today.
In the past, Europe, including England and France, caused global instability, affecting non-European countries. It's surprising that Great Britain isn't more active in resolving conflicts, with the United States taking a more prominent role instead.
I am Turkish. In 1900, my grandfather served in the military in Yemen for 5 years. We Turks have fought from front to front for the Ummah for 1000 years. But now the situation has changed. We don't have a drop of blood to shed for traitors. They have lawrence 💥💥💥
The original title along the lines of “why britain is responsible for the arab-israeli conflict” was accurate. Too bad someone at the IWM lost their nerve.
I have been listening to a podcast, the rest is history, which stated one of the focusing factors for the British to enter the first world was their desire to protect their control of India from the Russians. As you point out the drawing of the middle eastern map was in part due to Britains desire to protect the Suez canal which gave them expedited access to India.
I love how that makes no sense at all. Britain and Russia were on the same side during the First World War, and Russia wouldn't have been able to get to India ever. There is this little thing called the Himalayan Mountain range that would prevent that.
@@CedarHunt This is not about WW I, this is the Great Game. British, or East-INdia Company troops have gone into Afghanistan three times over the decades, to make sure to close the door to the INdian subcontinent to Russia. The Crimean War was also in no small part to check Russian expansionism. You need to step back and look at the larger picture.
From the day the Brits took over the Suez Canal from the French, they considered it to be of vital strategic interest. There are a few good videos on Ytube dealing with the Suez Canal Crisis from 1956 that could have brought the major powers to the brink of war again. Even today, the incident with the near-stranded container ship, and, by extension of the canal thru the Red Sea, the missile attacks by the Houthis remind us of the importance of the canal to global commerce.
Royal Navy 1904 - 1926 changed from coal to oil Good relations with Arabs were essential Also, there were many politicians who loved Arabic culture - Anthony Eden spoke Arabic and was enraptured by the culture Many British simply "Didn't like Jews" Britain was NOT pro-Zionism : some folks were, most weren't
@@disbish5472 Lawrence of Arabia but this channel, Imperial War Museums, has a video on him, too. I recommend the director's cut of Lawrence of Arabia if you look for it. It does maximize Lawrence and minimize the Arab role and, yeah, it omits his awareness of Palestine being promised to the Zionists behind the backs of the Sharif and his sons, but it is still interesting to watch.
I just discovered your channel and am enjoying listening to this video, a topic I studied as a student. Having worked in Central Asia, the picture at 6:22 is of a group in Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, or Tajikistan -- I'm going by the architecture and the clothes they wear.
I’m actually doing my research paper on the Jewish Legion and the controversy of the Balfour Declaration. While pleased at the fact your organisation made this video I do believe some elements could have been expanded upon and one argument made in the video was not properly constructed. Mainly I wish the story of the Zion Mule Corps and Jewish Legion had actually been expanded upon because what I hope to argue in my paper is that these military units are more crucial to the history of this topic than we think. Mainly because it shows a British engagement with the concept of Zionism going back to the earliest days of the war. For context roughly 50,000 Jews from the Yishuv (the pre state community of Jews in what people call Palestine I’d call the land of Israel) were expelled from the Ottoman empire. The majority made their way to Alexandria where discussion quickly rose to establish a Jewish military unit to serve in the British for an offensive in the Middle East. Britain had at this time had discussions of forming a Jewish regiment but the community in England at this time leaned more towards wanting to assimilate into English society. Nether the less in 1915 due to British regulations of admitting foreign soldiers into their ranks. A supply unit was established that would serve at Gallipoli, mainly Cape Helles called the Zion Mule Corps. It was disbanded after the retreat from Gallipoli with 100 servicemen joining a London rifle regiment which would eventually become the basis of the 38th Royal Fusiliers. The first of 3 regiments of the Jewish Legion. The other 2 being the 39th and the 40th Royal Fusiliers. What’s crucial is the date of the establishment of the 38th. They were established in August of 1917 and a key scholar of this topic: Martin Watts and the primary source from their NCO Lt Col John Henry Patterson: with the Judeans in the Palestine campaign, shows that the 38th was established with the explicit intent to go and fight within the EEF in the Palestine campaign with an aim of the Zionist movement being awarded territory after the war. My criticism comes from the use of the armband to reach the conclusion that Zionism wasn’t a popular among us during the war. If you had used documentation from Lucien Wolff, the Board of Deputies, the book: we are coming, unafraid: the Jewish legions and the promised land in the First World War, to have made your argument I would have respected it, disagreed with it to some level but found it more able to hold water. I would counter with evidence that all 3 regiments served under both the British flag and the flag that would become the Israeli flag. Hatikva was sung alongside G-d save the king, recruitment posters I’ve seen for the 39th Royal Fusiliers, displayed in Canada and reports about the unit’s training, the march the 38th had through London and testimony from Patterson I would use to prove this point I do apologise if I’ve been rude but I believe you could have made your argument better by drawing upon other sources and do believe the role of Jewish military service in the British army during this time needs to be explored more to gain more of a proper understanding to Britain’s decisions
sorry, but zionism was truly not popular and most zionists were perceived like lunatics zealots that you do not want to be associated with. you clearly do not understand that in an age of booming science and innovation, fewer and fewer people were interested in religious ideas and jews were following the trend much faster than any minority around! atheism was very popular among born jews and many of the first wave of communist propagandists were people with jewish background! to them, speaking of ancient temple and chosen land really made no sense!
Wherever we have gone around the world, we have interfered without understanding, or even caring about the wishes of the local people, and we have always made the situation worse.
All the European colonial powers divided up the world by putting into the same territories groups of people who always lived in their own territory. This way, the native groups would fight among themselves rather than attack the colonial powers. That’s why ac
High production value, great images from the period, but an overly simplistic cherry picked version of events aimed at pinning the current conflict on the British. Perhaps the IWM could make a video about the Rashidun Caliphate of the 7th century, or the subsequent Ottoman Empire’s persecution and massacre of non-Muslim minorities? Maybe then the layman would have a better understanding of the origins of the current conflict in the Middle East.
that's because Britain WAS the one to sell it.... Arabs already lived in the area before 7th century, because they were already there when people came from Africa, same with people from the med.
@@Ladybird55505Britain didn’t ‘sell’ the land. They re-established a homeland for the Jews after defeating the Ottoman Empire, which they were obliged to do after the Ottoman’s attacked their ally Russia during WW1. If the Ottoman’s hadn’t attacked Russia the Muslims may still be abusing ‘Dhimmis/Kafirs’ across the entire region, as they had done for centuries.
I always thought it ironic that Britain was calling Germany an aggressor in the run up to ww2 when they themselves had conquered more territory than any other at the time
If only it was an issue of only one school. Rather, it seems more to be a temperamental issue rather than an environmental one. Consider the politicians and aspiring politicians from working class backgrounds at school. It was always the swotty, the snitches, the teacher's pets, the ones determined to make sure all the other children follow the rules. It's clear when you listen to the Labour politicians they have spent most of their lives believing, probably rightly if viewed in terms of academic success, that they are better than their peers. Unfortunately, you tend to find those who come from a less well of background who gain power can be even more tyrannical than the snobs.
The Hajj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini (1895~1974) the Grand Mufti, was interviewed by the Peel Commission on January 12 1937 and this interview has been historically documented. Both he and various other leaders of the Arab High Committee testified that no land had been stolen. Prior to the discussion below was a debate between the Grand Mufti and Sir Laurie Hammond regarding the area, cost and type of land purchased. Grand Mufti - “In one case they sold about 400,000 dunams in one lot”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “Who, an Arab?” Grand Mufti - “Sarsuk. An Arab of Beyrouth”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “His Eminence gave us a picture of Arabs being evicted from their land and villages being wiped out. What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?” Grand Mufti - “In most cases the land was acquired”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “I mean forcibly acquired - compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes?” Grand Mufti - “No it wasn’t”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “Not taken by compulsory acquisition?” Grand Mufti - “No”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “But these lands amounting to some 700,000 dunams were actually sold?” Grand Mufti - “Yes they were sold, but the country was placed in such conditions as would facilitate such purchases”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “I don’t quite understand what do you mean by that. They were sold. Who sold them?” Grand Mufti - “Land owners”. Sir Laurie Hammond - “Arabs?” Grand Mufti - “In most cases they were Arabs”. The interview continues and it is obvious that absentee Arab and non-Arab landlords forced the peasant farmers off the land in order to sell to the Jewish and Zionist buyers at highly inflated prices. Those same peasant farmers and Arab immigrants then found employment on the lands that had legally changed ownership.
1. Ottoman was once sending letter regarding about if war ever broke out in Europe they wanted to join triple Entente but rejected by British, France, and even Russian Empire because of their objectives doesn't aligned with any triple Entente nation. 2. Of all minister that holding power or we can say Three Giants in ottoman notably Minister of War Enver Pasha, Minister of Naval Djemal Pasha, and minister of interior Talaat Pasha were once students in the British and France studying all sectors then came in contact with nationalism idea.
In 1988 the Palestine National Council meeting in Algiers proclaimed the establishment of the State of Palestine. The Security Council demanded Israel withdraw its forces “forthwith and unconditionally” from Lebanon up to its internationally recognized boundaries. 06 June 1982.
Just because Palestine claims itself as a state with borders they want doesn’t make it a state. Palestinians aren’t even an ethnic people. They are just Arabic people that live in what has always been a traditional home for the Jewish people. They’ve been exiled multiple times throughout history but they have had a claim to that land going back to the days of Babylon. Palestine is just a name the Romans gave to the area to insult the Jews. So much of this recent Palestinian state narrative is just plainly made up.
I'll just remind us all the Trans- Jordan Memorandum at the Cairo Conference of 1922, in which the Britts, rulers of Palestine, together with the Arab League States, takes off the Eastern part of palestine know as Jordan today from the equation of the "Jewish Homeland in Palestine" from the 1917 Balfour Dec.
I would say it wasn't "Us" as it was our ancestors but the bigger picture here is people want to blame someone for invading and taking land when that's exactly what ALL humans have been doing since the beginning of mankind, so there is no good guy or bad guy in that sense
@@John14-6...except that when “we” continue to fund imperial endeavors and destabilization in the region, you can’t really blame any ancestors. Neocolonialism exists.
@@John14-6... Humans at the beginning were claiming land areas and were trying to develop. They started invading and starting war at each other after they found other countries (empires or society) exist. They wanted everything for themselves and wanted their culture and traditions to be the top used.
Generally a very balanced and interesting account. My one quibble - starting in 1914 does rather skew the argument! It would be equivalent to starting at 1973 - ie that Egypt invaded Israel in the Sinai desert and occupied Israeli land! Very disingenuous I’m sure everyone would agree. The point being - where you start the story massively changes perception. What you missed is that the Jews in Israel were occupied by a foreign power (Rome) and over time were kicked out of their homeland by many peoples - including by the Arabs. The Arab colonisation of the levant and North Africa often gets a free pass. But if people have a lawful claim to land they were kicked out of (think Palestinian refugees, Ukrainian refugees etc) then how long does it last and why have you picked that time? It’s a messy situation - and frankly trying to blame Britain for the mess rather absolves all the actual people on the ground fighting over it…
To me, the history of Jewish people pushed out of Israel is widely known, but it's the other side of the history that's over looked. Such as Iran helped Jewish people to move back into ancient Israel, and also helped to build their 2nd Temple. The Iranians actually commissioned for the temple to be built.
IMO after 2,000 years one should be able to get over the fact that ones ancestors had been kicked out from somewhere. Imagine if every single group which had been kicked out somewhere over the past 2,000 years suddenly start aggressive actions to "return" today...
The history of Europe, especially Eastern Europe, over the last few centuries is a history of displacement, genocide, forced relocation and ethnic cleansing. The grievances are manifold and long=standing. The key to a peaceful Europe is coming to terms with a status quo instead of nursing those multi=generational grudges. That has allowed most of Europe to enjoy one of its longest periods of peace, ever. The only parts of Europe that for the last eighty years since the end of WW II experienced the kind of murderous strife that is the historical default were the component states of the former Yugoslavia, and now Ukraine, and the reason for that is to reach back into history for some kind of wrongs that somebody feels needs to be redressed. That is the situation in today's Palestine. As long as the debate goes back further and further in time to arrive at some type of historical Ground Zero in the search for legitimacy for one's viewpoint, a solution for the future will always prove elusive.
Sure, I have heard of the Balfour Declaration. But until just now I had never had the chance to read what it actually says. It strikes me that for such an important document, it is surprisingly wishy-washy, to use the preferred academic term. As a official statement, it simply expresses a preference. It is not a law, a foreign policy objective of the Crown, or a carefully arrived-at, negotiated treaty obligation.' It simply seems to be a carefully worded, straddle the fence thinking of the Foreign Office, designed not to give too much away to either side, designed to be abandoned or at least modified should shifting circumstances require it. To make it the cornerstone of British foreign policy, is, to quote Sir Bernard Appleby, to put a burden on it that it is semantically and epistologically not designed to support".
This was actually very intentionally done by the British. They knew how it conflicted with other promises they made, so they left it open to interpretation. Though it was made law in 1923 as part of the Mandate for Palestine. Interestingly though, people argue that the Balfour declaration being made law in Mandatory Palestine was in itself illegal. This is because the governing international law for Mandates which the League of Nations had agreed on, stipulated that countries like Britain were required to act effectively as trustees over their Mandates, and to act in the best interests of the people who lived their, ensuring the right to self determination. Since the Balfour Declaration alienated 90% of the population of Palestine from their political right to self determination, it violated a key component of the governing international law.
The Anti Israel narrative likes to pretend the declaration simply "handed over" the land to the Jews. I wish more people would simply read this short text. The very complicated history of the conflict is twisted to fit the tiktok activists.
are we completely ignore what they we're doing in de 1890's? This is very important to get a full view of why this all happened because it isn't just because the UK wanted the Suez Canal
How many Jews and Christians currently are living in Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan? Less than ONE PERCENT. What happened to all those people? Forced out? What’s currently happening in Nigeria? in churches in Nigeria?
The question is; who gave Britain the permission to give someone land to another? Which law let Britain send Jewish people from Europe to go and take over Arab Palestine country ?! It’s so weird that there is still people don’t know the truth. This is Palestine for Arab Palestinians and the whole region for Arab only. The Israelis are occupiers. End of story.
Well that’s how wars work. The land belonged to the ottomans who lost the World war and lost the land to the British. That’s literally how wars worked. If you disagree, we should also give Turkey back to the Greeks, half the middle east to Iran(Persia) etc etc
If you compare the treaties of Versailles, (the harshness of which is attributed to the rise of Hitler) Saint-Germain, Trianon and Sevres, it's very easy to distinguish the extreme amount of racism inherent in the European mindset of the period: Germany lost a minimum amount of land and Austria was disbanded to give the locals their own states while Turkey lost pretty much everything except a small portion of lowest value rural inner Anatolia and any non-Christian locals were instead colonized by Britain and France.
I'm Turkish. Making the loss of land a race thing isn't fair. Racism isn't that significant in such decision making. All partition decisions were strategic and based on reason. Consider this: If there was racism, why did they support Arabs?
Quick question - why couldn’t Britain or any other western country offer a place for Jews? Did they not want them in their country ? Why place them in a country where the original residents didn’t want to share their country ? This move in1947, seemed to have displace many Palestinians and they were treated with injustice by the UN. America is so large, why couldn’t one state be given to the Jews? Seems like the west were always racist to Jews, it was only Muslims who voluntarily gave Jews a place to live - during the ottomon empire in the 1880.
@@Ladybird55505 Israel is a Jewish country conquered by Romans then Ottomans then by British .You should blame these empires for conflicts. Jews took back what is rightfully theirs. Palestinians could have co-exist with them but they always want things to go according to their plans like conquer any country divide country and make Islamic countries around the world .If somebody else do the same thing they cannot tolerate.
1919 Versailles : Lloyd George was poor on geography - he though Mecca was in Syria But he was hot on bible studies : he suggested Israel's borders should run from "Ham to Beersheba". Civil servants had to trawl the archives to find ancient maps.
I hope that part 2 will deal with: 1. Did the colonial powers have a right to do the division? It is not addressed strongly enough; 2. Was Palestine empty land, and how does Asher Ginsberg’s observations of Palestine in 1891 relate to this notion; 3. There were serious fights between Jewish settlers and native Arabs in Palestine throughout the 1930s. It is glossed over, thereby underplaying the beginnings of the illegal land claims of the Zionists; 4. There were about 4 or 5 Zionist terror groups, among them the father of Benjamin Netanyahu and Menachem Begin, who famously claimed to be the original terr0rist; 5. Why was the Balfour Declaration addressed to Rothschild, in particular, and was that part of a deal to bring America in to support the British in the war? This piece doesn’t adequately deal with the background to the conflicting promises and why the Brits ultimately favoured the Zionists. 6. This piece also does not adequately deal with the root cause of the current conflict, the Zionists’ master plan of establishing Greater Israel. It is the fulcrum of the manifesto of the Likud Party, founded by Begin. It is a matter of emphasis and important to understand the degree of culpability of not just the British Empire but also those currently in power in Israel who continue to push the Greater Israel agenda.
@@noraibrahim8862it didn't even have that population in the first British census on 1922. The land was highly underpopulated and had less than 350,000 people in it for over 1000 years before 1860.
Israel accept s it doesn't have the totality of its land. Just the scraps. The Arab Palestinians should have done the same - greater Palestine was Jordan Lebanon and Southern Syria. The region given to them at Partition in 1948. Furthermore, as Zuheir Mohsen of the PLO stated: Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons"...
Incorrect @@hnd450 the ottomans ruled Palestine but the people of Palestine were the owners. Jewish refugees were given access, but they ended up expelling their hosts and talking over their land.
@@yosefyonin6824 Wrong. The Ottoman Empire ceded the land to the League of Nations, who set up a number of Mandates. Britain had to run every decision for approval by the LON, which means the whole world voted on all of this.
Notice that the word Palestinians never appears in the document. Why? Because that description did not exist until the 1960s. They were simply Arab peoples.
There are are three glaring omissions here: 1) The justifiable declaration of war by the Ottoman Empire against the then allies was grounded in JIHAD , but not against the German Austrian allies. Theirs's was a holy Islamic war. 2) No mention of The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, **Hajj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini**, a truly authentic Palestinian by anyone’s definition is a key figure in this history. And the subsequent mentor of the Soviet backed Egyptian Yasser Arafat 3) The Holocaust How so?
Claiming that the Ottoman Empire's declaration of jihad was justifiable overlooks the complex political context of World War I. The Ottomans actually used religious rhetoric to unify their empire, but this was less about true holy war and more about maintaining power amid a crumbling state. Moreover, framing it as a "holy Islamic war" can perpetuate harmful stereotypes about Islam. Wars are often fought for political and territorial gains rather than purely religious motives. It's also important to see this through a lens of imperialism and the struggles of people rather than simplistic religious narratives. The consequences of these conflicts still resonate today, especially in how we view resistance movements and the fight for self-determination in the region. You've done a fairly good job otherwise, though I won't attempt to address them all as it's a little bit too expensive.
The Arabs of the region got their own state it was called Transjordan. At no time did the British promise them the entire territory. Also there are conflicting estimates of the Jewish population of Palestine at the beginning of WW1 (1914). They range anywhere from 59,000 to 94,000 (or 8.5-13.6% of the population). Regardless they were a relatively small minority in the region.
Are you that devoid of historical knowledge? The Ottomans signed All their lands over to the Allies after WW1. The Allies gave the responsibility of the lands to the League of Nations. The League of Nations created 3 Mandates out of the former Ottoman lands, the Mandate of Mesopotamia (Iraq), the Mandate of Syria and Lebanon, and the Mandate of Palestine. The British were made the administrators of the Mandate of Palestine. The first thing the British did was illegally give the Arab Hashemites 77% of the Mandate of Palestine, leaving Only 23% to become the future Jewish state. The Entire League of Nations voted unanimously for the Mandate of Palestine Charter which had one mission only; *_"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"_* There was NO other people spoken of in the Mandate of Palestine Charter except the *_"non-Jewish communities in Palestine."_*
why is there even a question mark in the title? what is happening today in Gaza is a *direct* result of British imperial machinations in the 1st half of the 20th century, and US imperial machinations in the second. (and now it *is* about oil)
@breamoreboyhow do you know your mum is south wales?By your analysis you’d have to trace your family roots back over 100 years to say that. You’re probably a mongrel, like most of us.
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what a legacy sad but we need to protect it nevertheless
I'm sure they will be very uncontroversial
Good luck 🤞 thanks for covering this.
Good luck 🤞 thanks for covering this.
Thank you
Well at the current situation it can be an explosive topic, but very informative to form one's own opinion..
Lol
This is by far the best coverage of the conflict I have seen so far. Excellent!
It's biased in places, it decides to focus on some facts while ignoring others.
@@IF18aBut it doesn’t shy away from pointing a big finger at the Brits for having massively contributed to this situation.
its only best because it sings your song, but is it true?
@@IF18a It's always easy to comment like that. Mention those which were ignored, so the picture be even better.
@@IF18a It focuses on the real cause of WW1 and WW2. Those individuals are desperately attacking this documentary.
PART 2 please. amazing clarity
It’s not easy to unpack, but this history documentary does a great job of shedding light on it
Amazing! I'm looking forward to the second part!
Looking for unbiased, objective, unpoliticised info.
I hope this is the right place
@@GregoryShtevensh oh for the truth of the truth
I love your videos. You have helped me learn about history way faster than ever
com to Ukraine sir if you want to liv and learn war faster than ever
Highly recommened video. Provides some good elaboration on UK's political strategy in the region.
Wonderful video, as always. Thank you. Note: the bottom part of Africa is not the Horn of Africa.
A clear informational video that shows the history of the region. Looking forward to part two.
You may consider this comment offensive but it is true none the less. Every time the British stick their noses in to other countries then leaves there has been nothing but a total failure. British empire ways are directly to blame for current problems in the middle east.
Are they though?
The British held the region for about 25 years. The ottomans controlled it for 400 years and a lot of the regions problems festered under the ottomans. Particularly poverty and infrastructure degradation.
@hokepoke3540 Between Britain & and US colonial imperialism, they have invaded, stolen resources, massacred, tortured & exploited most of the globe! 🙈 (to present day)
@reubenmcmurray4377 However, we have no 'right' to go thousands of miles to different countries; telling them what is 'best' for them (in the pretence that we are civilised & everyone else are savages) It is none of our business. They had their different tribes, religions, ethnicities, beliefs, cultures, etc. We have no right to think that 'our'way is better, or we know better. Let them sort their own issues out. The US did it to the native Indians! The English (now British) did it to the Irish, the Scottish!; the indigenous aboriginal people. UK & US Govs are actually the savages!
I mean at the end of the day,... it comes down to the arabs and jews not sorting themselves out
@@hokepoke3540 💯
Thanks for creating vids relating to modern day events. Truly educational and entertaining!
Can't wait till the part two. wonderful episode.
The British followed one rule, ”Divide and conquer”
They kinda did the same thing with India and Pakistan
We sold it 3 times 😢
If two fish are fighting in a pond it means the British were there
@@tombearclaw and Malaya!
@@sjoormen1 Britain cannot determine or change the nature of those fish. One of the fish species uses mostly American tax dollars to commit war crimes against the other fishies. If Britain is guilty of anything, its failing to condemn those fish. The same fish provided arms to Argentina during the Falklands War. This is a very dodgy fish.
Very very nice video! I found myself wondering what the origins of the Israel Palestine conflict are and needed to know. Now i see that it is more complicated than i first thought and that there are many groups/ countries involved.
How on earth did you get out an informative video with the current UK government's culture wars going on? I really do admire your integrity and courage, for the truth belongs to those with money in this modern world.
Culture wars in Britain? Surely not. I'm an American who lived in Britain for over ten years and nothing I saw there even remotely compares to the American culture wars.
There's just the old knee-jerk nationalism where some British people want to be way more of an isolated, insular nation than Britain ever has been and is realistic, given economic and political links to the Continent and world
Its certainly important to understand the past for many modern problems.
Just one point; as I understand it, the Sykes-Picot lines were not random doodlings by diplomats, they were based on the Ottoman Administrative regions, as you would expect.
The Ottomans provincial borders were very different
Yes, I think this is correct.
This is actually not true, the city of Rafah was split into two, and divided betw Egypt and mandatory Palastine, after the ottoman defeat in ww1 focourse nobody knew at the time what was being planned for the whole region.
That's not true. The Ottoman administrative borders were very different from the British and French ones.
Not at all. You had 3 main entities: The vilayet of Syria, the vilayet of Beirut, and the independant Sanjak of Jerusalem. Wjat became Palestine after world War 1, was Jerusalem. a part of the sanjak of Ma'an (vilayet Syria) the sanjaks of Nablus, most of the Sanjak of Akka, a part of the Beirut Sanjak (all Beirut Vilayet). So yeah, the French and British did draw random lines. Britain had actually sent out an inquiry commission, the king crane commission, to get a feel of how the Arabs felt. Only 1% of local Arabs in the South wanted Palestine to be created. 85% favoured a united Syria. So yeah, fun fact, the main opponents of creating Palestine over a hundred years ago, were the ancestors of the people who call themselves the Palestinian people today.
This was a period of history that deserves deep study and reflection going forward, lest we make the same mistakes.
Great video but so few views 😢
Pretty much confirms to few truly care about the issue and how it might get resolved.
Excellent historical documentary.
👏👏👏
Outrageous! *spits out tea*
In the past, Europe, including England and France, caused global instability, affecting non-European countries. It's surprising that Great Britain isn't more active in resolving conflicts, with the United States taking a more prominent role instead.
I am Turkish. In 1900, my grandfather served in the military in Yemen for 5 years. We Turks have fought from front to front for the Ummah for 1000 years. But now the situation has changed. We don't have a drop of blood to shed for traitors. They have lawrence 💥💥💥
The original title along the lines of “why britain is responsible for the arab-israeli conflict” was accurate. Too bad someone at the IWM lost their nerve.
😂 yes,k I like that one
This is a great summary from a British colonial perspective. I highly recommend both parts 1 & 2.
Looking forward to seeing the second part!
Great description of the situation, very impressive
I have been listening to a podcast, the rest is history, which stated one of the focusing factors for the British to enter the first world was their desire to protect their control of India from the Russians. As you point out the drawing of the middle eastern map was in part due to Britains desire to protect the Suez canal which gave them expedited access to India.
I love how that makes no sense at all. Britain and Russia were on the same side during the First World War, and Russia wouldn't have been able to get to India ever. There is this little thing called the Himalayan Mountain range that would prevent that.
The British were forced into the war because of treaties and alliances - same as the Germans were. Go look at some real history.
@@CedarHunt This is not about WW I, this is the Great Game. British, or East-INdia Company troops have gone into Afghanistan three times over the decades, to make sure to close the door to the INdian subcontinent to Russia.
The Crimean War was also in no small part to check Russian expansionism.
You need to step back and look at the larger picture.
From the day the Brits took over the Suez Canal from the French, they considered it to be of vital strategic interest. There are a few good videos on Ytube dealing with the Suez Canal Crisis from 1956 that could have brought the major powers to the brink of war again.
Even today, the incident with the near-stranded container ship, and, by extension of the canal thru the Red Sea, the missile attacks by the Houthis remind us of the importance of the canal to global commerce.
The Empire Podcast explores the Great Game in detail@@shelbynamels7948
A story that needs to be told. Thank you.
yup
they promised the land to both sides and ran away after their plans blew up in their faces
Please show where Palestine was promised to the Arabs?
Read McMahan-Hussain Correspondence which was in 1915@@shainazion4073
At the very beginning; 00:25@@shainazion4073
@@shainazion4073 did you not watch the video?
While they promised the land to both sides, one side was 95 percent of the population in Palestine. Pretty clear who were unjustly treated .
Royal Navy 1904 - 1926 changed from coal to oil
Good relations with Arabs were essential
Also, there were many politicians who loved Arabic culture -
Anthony Eden spoke Arabic and was enraptured by the culture
Many British simply "Didn't like Jews"
Britain was NOT pro-Zionism : some folks were, most weren't
Is there an IWM video about TE Lawrence? I’d be interested in that.
There is a movie about it, I don’t how much of it is fictitious but the movie is a great watch!
@@ingGS what is it called
@@disbish5472 Lawrence of Arabia but this channel, Imperial War Museums, has a video on him, too. I recommend the director's cut of Lawrence of Arabia if you look for it. It does maximize Lawrence and minimize the Arab role and, yeah, it omits his awareness of Palestine being promised to the Zionists behind the backs of the Sharif and his sons, but it is still interesting to watch.
I don't remember at what point Lawrence learned that the Palestine part of the land was promised out per Balfour's letters.
There's a movie and a book.
This seemed to end suddenly. Will there be a second episode?
Yes.
Feels like there should be a part two?
Look at the thumbnail
probably feels like that because it says "part 1" in the thumbnail lol
There is a part 2
I just discovered your channel and am enjoying listening to this video, a topic I studied as a student.
Having worked in Central Asia, the picture at 6:22 is of a group in Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, or Tajikistan -- I'm going by the architecture and the clothes they wear.
I’m actually doing my research paper on the Jewish Legion and the controversy of the Balfour Declaration. While pleased at the fact your organisation made this video I do believe some elements could have been expanded upon and one argument made in the video was not properly constructed.
Mainly I wish the story of the Zion Mule Corps and Jewish Legion had actually been expanded upon because what I hope to argue in my paper is that these military units are more crucial to the history of this topic than we think. Mainly because it shows a British engagement with the concept of Zionism going back to the earliest days of the war. For context roughly 50,000 Jews from the Yishuv (the pre state community of Jews in what people call Palestine I’d call the land of Israel) were expelled from the Ottoman empire. The majority made their way to Alexandria where discussion quickly rose to establish a Jewish military unit to serve in the British for an offensive in the Middle East.
Britain had at this time had discussions of forming a Jewish regiment but the community in England at this time leaned more towards wanting to assimilate into English society.
Nether the less in 1915 due to British regulations of admitting foreign soldiers into their ranks. A supply unit was established that would serve at Gallipoli, mainly Cape Helles called the Zion Mule Corps. It was disbanded after the retreat from Gallipoli with 100 servicemen joining a London rifle regiment which would eventually become the basis of the 38th Royal Fusiliers. The first of 3 regiments of the Jewish Legion. The other 2 being the 39th and the 40th Royal Fusiliers.
What’s crucial is the date of the establishment of the 38th. They were established in August of 1917 and a key scholar of this topic: Martin Watts and the primary source from their NCO Lt Col John Henry Patterson: with the Judeans in the Palestine campaign, shows that the 38th was established with the explicit intent to go and fight within the EEF in the Palestine campaign with an aim of the Zionist movement being awarded territory after the war.
My criticism comes from the use of the armband to reach the conclusion that Zionism wasn’t a popular among us during the war. If you had used documentation from Lucien Wolff, the Board of Deputies, the book: we are coming, unafraid: the Jewish legions and the promised land in the First World War, to have made your argument I would have respected it, disagreed with it to some level but found it more able to hold water.
I would counter with evidence that all 3 regiments served under both the British flag and the flag that would become the Israeli flag. Hatikva was sung alongside G-d save the king, recruitment posters I’ve seen for the 39th Royal Fusiliers, displayed in Canada and reports about the unit’s training, the march the 38th had through London and testimony from Patterson I would use to prove this point
I do apologise if I’ve been rude but I believe you could have made your argument better by drawing upon other sources and do believe the role of Jewish military service in the British army during this time needs to be explored more to gain more of a proper understanding to Britain’s decisions
sorry, but zionism was truly not popular and most zionists were perceived like lunatics zealots that you do not want to be associated with. you clearly do not understand that in an age of booming science and innovation, fewer and fewer people were interested in religious ideas and jews were following the trend much faster than any minority around! atheism was very popular among born jews and many of the first wave of communist propagandists were people with jewish background! to them, speaking of ancient temple and chosen land really made no sense!
The Jews needed military experience because they knew that a conflict with the Arabs was going to happen.
Would love some recommendations on what to start reading to get my head around the current situation in Palestine and Israel
Hmmm .... as someone who supports the IWM financially, I'll reflect on this and look forward to part 2's position
Going back a long way in history now with that one.
Wherever we have gone around the world, we have interfered without understanding, or even caring about the wishes of the local people, and we have always made the situation worse.
All the European colonial powers divided up the world by putting into the same territories groups of people who always lived in their own territory. This way, the native groups would fight among themselves rather than attack the colonial powers. That’s why ac
It's more to the situation than British involvement now...but its no surprise about this information.
Very good and informative video - please do another part, preferably more to cover whole history of Isreali state
Another interesting presentation...Thank you I WM. ROGER...PEMBROKESHIRE
Mr. Editor, a bit of a sudden ending there, combined with the UA-cam advertisement, made it somewhat confusing. Food for thought.
High production value, great images from the period, but an overly simplistic cherry picked version of events aimed at pinning the current conflict on the British. Perhaps the IWM could make a video about the Rashidun Caliphate of the 7th century, or the subsequent Ottoman Empire’s persecution and massacre of non-Muslim minorities? Maybe then the layman would have a better understanding of the origins of the current conflict in the Middle East.
an excellent and truthful comment
that's because Britain WAS the one to sell it.... Arabs already lived in the area before 7th century, because they were already there when people came from Africa, same with people from the med.
@@Ladybird55505Britain didn’t ‘sell’ the land. They re-established a homeland for the Jews after defeating the Ottoman Empire, which they were obliged to do after the Ottoman’s attacked their ally Russia during WW1. If the Ottoman’s hadn’t attacked Russia the Muslims may still be abusing ‘Dhimmis/Kafirs’ across the entire region, as they had done for centuries.
I always thought it ironic that Britain was calling Germany an aggressor in the run up to ww2 when they themselves had conquered more territory than any other at the time
Lord Balfour went to Eton. Anyone else seeing the link between crass incompetent politicians and that establishment?
If only it was an issue of only one school. Rather, it seems more to be a temperamental issue rather than an environmental one. Consider the politicians and aspiring politicians from working class backgrounds at school. It was always the swotty, the snitches, the teacher's pets, the ones determined to make sure all the other children follow the rules. It's clear when you listen to the Labour politicians they have spent most of their lives believing, probably rightly if viewed in terms of academic success, that they are better than their peers. Unfortunately, you tend to find those who come from a less well of background who gain power can be even more tyrannical than the snobs.
Nicola sturgeon springs immediately to mind😂
No, you’re the first person I’ve ever heard make that original and revealing association.
Beautifully succinct documentary that explains so much
Excellent video!
Thank you.
The Hajj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini (1895~1974) the Grand Mufti, was interviewed by the Peel Commission on January 12 1937 and this interview has been historically documented. Both he and various other leaders of the Arab High Committee testified that no land had been stolen. Prior to the discussion below was a debate between the Grand Mufti and Sir Laurie Hammond regarding the area, cost and type of land purchased.
Grand Mufti - “In one case they sold about 400,000 dunams in one lot”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “Who, an Arab?”
Grand Mufti - “Sarsuk. An Arab of Beyrouth”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “His Eminence gave us a picture of Arabs being evicted from their land and villages being wiped out. What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?”
Grand Mufti - “In most cases the land was acquired”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “I mean forcibly acquired - compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes?”
Grand Mufti - “No it wasn’t”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “Not taken by compulsory acquisition?”
Grand Mufti - “No”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “But these lands amounting to some 700,000 dunams were actually sold?”
Grand Mufti - “Yes they were sold, but the country was placed in such conditions as would facilitate such purchases”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “I don’t quite understand what do you mean by that. They were sold. Who sold them?”
Grand Mufti - “Land owners”.
Sir Laurie Hammond - “Arabs?”
Grand Mufti - “In most cases they were Arabs”.
The interview continues and it is obvious that absentee Arab and non-Arab landlords forced the peasant farmers off the land in order to sell to the Jewish and Zionist buyers at highly inflated prices. Those same peasant farmers and Arab immigrants then found employment on the lands that had legally changed ownership.
1. Ottoman was once sending letter regarding about if war ever broke out in Europe they wanted to join triple Entente but rejected by British, France, and even Russian Empire because of their objectives doesn't aligned with any triple Entente nation.
2. Of all minister that holding power or we can say Three Giants in ottoman notably Minister of War Enver Pasha, Minister of Naval Djemal Pasha, and minister of interior Talaat Pasha were once students in the British and France studying all sectors then came in contact with nationalism idea.
An interesting and informative documentary.
In 1988 the Palestine National Council meeting in Algiers proclaimed the establishment of the State of Palestine. The Security Council demanded Israel withdraw its forces “forthwith and unconditionally” from Lebanon up to its internationally recognized boundaries. 06 June 1982.
Just because Palestine claims itself as a state with borders they want doesn’t make it a state. Palestinians aren’t even an ethnic people. They are just Arabic people that live in what has always been a traditional home for the Jewish people. They’ve been exiled multiple times throughout history but they have had a claim to that land going back to the days of Babylon. Palestine is just a name the Romans gave to the area to insult the Jews. So much of this recent Palestinian state narrative is just plainly made up.
I'll just remind us all the Trans- Jordan Memorandum at the Cairo Conference of 1922, in which the Britts, rulers of Palestine, together with the Arab League States, takes off the Eastern part of palestine know as Jordan today from the equation of the "Jewish Homeland in Palestine" from the 1917 Balfour Dec.
Thanks Britain.
I hear that Mt. Kilimanjaro was gifted away to a person across the continent by a person from across the continent. A natural feature.
It’s easy to promise things to others that isn’t yours
I see you don't understand about how power politics and The Great Game works.
Whose was it? The ottomans?
That area was very clearly under British control.
That’s what I’m thinking
@@pistonburner6448 yep after they did a unfair 3v1 against ottoman empire.
Are we the bad guys ?
That's how you get an empire.
I would say it wasn't "Us" as it was our ancestors but the bigger picture here is people want to blame someone for invading and taking land when that's exactly what ALL humans have been doing since the beginning of mankind, so there is no good guy or bad guy in that sense
@@John14-6...except that when “we” continue to fund imperial endeavors and destabilization in the region, you can’t really blame any ancestors. Neocolonialism exists.
lmao I love that sketch with David Mitchell 🤣
@@John14-6... Humans at the beginning were claiming land areas and were trying to develop. They started invading and starting war at each other after they found other countries (empires or society) exist. They wanted everything for themselves and wanted their culture and traditions to be the top used.
Thank you for the video
The flippant drawing of borders were the British’s specialty. I wouldn’t be surprised if they meticulously planned it this way.
I was thinking the same...sounds liek what they did in Africa
Generally a very balanced and interesting account.
My one quibble - starting in 1914 does rather skew the argument!
It would be equivalent to starting at 1973 - ie that Egypt invaded Israel in the Sinai desert and occupied Israeli land! Very disingenuous I’m sure everyone would agree.
The point being - where you start the story massively changes perception.
What you missed is that the Jews in Israel were occupied by a foreign power (Rome) and over time were kicked out of their homeland by many peoples - including by the Arabs. The Arab colonisation of the levant and North Africa often gets a free pass.
But if people have a lawful claim to land they were kicked out of (think Palestinian refugees, Ukrainian refugees etc) then how long does it last and why have you picked that time?
It’s a messy situation - and frankly trying to blame Britain for the mess rather absolves all the actual people on the ground fighting over it…
There were other people in Jerusalem before Abraham migrated from Iraq to Jerusalem. You just can't start with Jews were occupied by Rome.
To me, the history of Jewish people pushed out of Israel is widely known, but it's the other side of the history that's over looked. Such as Iran helped Jewish people to move back into ancient Israel, and also helped to build their 2nd Temple. The Iranians actually commissioned for the temple to be built.
IMO after 2,000 years one should be able to get over the fact that ones ancestors had been kicked out from somewhere.
Imagine if every single group which had been kicked out somewhere over the past 2,000 years suddenly start aggressive actions to "return" today...
The history of Europe, especially Eastern Europe, over the last few centuries is a history of displacement, genocide, forced relocation and ethnic cleansing. The grievances are manifold and long=standing.
The key to a peaceful Europe is coming to terms with a status quo instead of nursing those multi=generational grudges. That has allowed most of Europe to enjoy one of its longest periods of peace, ever.
The only parts of Europe that for the last eighty years since the end of WW II experienced the kind of murderous strife that is the historical default were the component states of the former Yugoslavia, and now Ukraine, and the reason for that is to reach back into history for some kind of wrongs that somebody feels needs to be redressed.
That is the situation in today's Palestine. As long as the debate goes back further and further in time to arrive at some type of historical Ground Zero in the search for legitimacy for one's viewpoint, a solution for the future will always prove elusive.
2000+ years ago
Sure, I have heard of the Balfour Declaration. But until just now I had never had the chance to read what it actually says. It strikes me that for such an important document, it is surprisingly wishy-washy, to use the preferred academic term.
As a official statement, it simply expresses a preference. It is not a law, a foreign policy objective of the Crown, or a carefully arrived-at, negotiated treaty obligation.'
It simply seems to be a carefully worded, straddle the fence thinking of the Foreign Office, designed not to give too much away to either side, designed to be abandoned or at least modified should shifting circumstances require it.
To make it the cornerstone of British foreign policy, is, to quote Sir Bernard Appleby, to put a burden on it that it is semantically and epistologically not designed to support".
This was actually very intentionally done by the British. They knew how it conflicted with other promises they made, so they left it open to interpretation. Though it was made law in 1923 as part of the Mandate for Palestine. Interestingly though, people argue that the Balfour declaration being made law in Mandatory Palestine was in itself illegal. This is because the governing international law for Mandates which the League of Nations had agreed on, stipulated that countries like Britain were required to act effectively as trustees over their Mandates, and to act in the best interests of the people who lived their, ensuring the right to self determination. Since the Balfour Declaration alienated 90% of the population of Palestine from their political right to self determination, it violated a key component of the governing international law.
The Anti Israel narrative likes to pretend the declaration simply "handed over" the land to the Jews. I wish more people would simply read this short text. The very complicated history of the conflict is twisted to fit the tiktok activists.
ever seen who he addressed it too?
I hope it will be easy to locate Part Two
They don't call the Union Jack a Butchers Apron for nothing hey.
GREAT COVERAGE, THANK YOU
Echoing the comments of others… what next?
This is fascinating insight into this troubled part of the world.
are we completely ignore what they we're doing in de 1890's? This is very important to get a full view of why this all happened because it isn't just because the UK wanted the Suez Canal
How many Jews and Christians currently are living in Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan?
Less than ONE PERCENT.
What happened to all those people? Forced out?
What’s currently happening in Nigeria? in churches in Nigeria?
The question is; who gave Britain the permission to give someone land to another? Which law let Britain send Jewish people from Europe to go and take over Arab Palestine country ?! It’s so weird that there is still people don’t know the truth. This is Palestine for Arab Palestinians and the whole region for Arab only. The Israelis are occupiers. End of story.
Well that’s how wars work. The land belonged to the ottomans who lost the World war and lost the land to the British. That’s literally how wars worked. If you disagree, we should also give Turkey back to the Greeks, half the middle east to Iran(Persia) etc etc
@@Dales-d2e You forgot ottomans took land from Romans who took it from Jews. Then why blame jews only .
You don't know history. End of story.
If you compare the treaties of Versailles, (the harshness of which is attributed to the rise of Hitler) Saint-Germain, Trianon and Sevres, it's very easy to distinguish the extreme amount of racism inherent in the European mindset of the period: Germany lost a minimum amount of land and Austria was disbanded to give the locals their own states while Turkey lost pretty much everything except a small portion of lowest value rural inner Anatolia and any non-Christian locals were instead colonized by Britain and France.
I'm Turkish. Making the loss of land a race thing isn't fair. Racism isn't that significant in such decision making. All partition decisions were strategic and based on reason. Consider this: If there was racism, why did they support Arabs?
1:25 wrong map for the Russian Empire in 1914.
10:59 it's pronounced Mesopotamia (meaning "between the rivers"), not "Mesopotania"
A a major factor behind the suffering and divide to this day 😕
Not at all. Only losers blame UK for today's woes
@thekneidlachengineer6038
I mean it is their fault that they occupied the land instead of giving the arabs independence
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 I really enjoyed this video for educational purposes!
Quick question - why couldn’t Britain or any other western country offer a place for Jews? Did they not want them in their country ? Why place them in a country where the original residents didn’t want to share their country ? This move in1947, seemed to have displace many Palestinians and they were treated with injustice by the UN.
America is so large, why couldn’t one state be given to the Jews?
Seems like the west were always racist to Jews, it was only Muslims who voluntarily gave Jews a place to live - during the ottomon empire in the 1880.
The Jews WERE the original residents.
Muslims actively prohibited Jews into the British mandate and then Muslim countries ethnically cleaned Jews from their countries.
@@freddyt55555 incorrect
Theyve been removed from 109 countries over the course of thousands of years... pretty self explanitory
@@Ladybird55505 Israel is a Jewish country conquered by Romans then Ottomans then by British .You should blame these empires for conflicts. Jews took back what is rightfully theirs. Palestinians could have co-exist with them but they always want things to go according to their plans like conquer any country divide country and make Islamic countries around the world .If somebody else do the same thing they cannot tolerate.
1919 Versailles : Lloyd George was poor on geography - he though Mecca was in Syria
But he was hot on bible studies : he suggested Israel's borders should run from "Ham to Beersheba". Civil servants had to trawl the archives to find ancient maps.
Lads we did it again!
I hope that part 2 will deal with:
1. Did the colonial powers have a right to do the division? It is not addressed strongly enough;
2. Was Palestine empty land, and how does Asher Ginsberg’s observations of Palestine in 1891 relate to this notion;
3. There were serious fights between Jewish settlers and native Arabs in Palestine throughout the 1930s. It is glossed over, thereby underplaying the beginnings of the illegal land claims of the Zionists;
4. There were about 4 or 5 Zionist terror groups, among them the father of Benjamin Netanyahu and Menachem Begin, who famously claimed to be the original terr0rist;
5. Why was the Balfour Declaration addressed to Rothschild, in particular, and was that part of a deal to bring America in to support the British in the war? This piece doesn’t adequately deal with the background to the conflicting promises and why the Brits ultimately favoured the Zionists.
6. This piece also does not adequately deal with the root cause of the current conflict, the Zionists’ master plan of establishing Greater Israel. It is the fulcrum of the manifesto of the Likud Party, founded by Begin.
It is a matter of emphasis and important to understand the degree of culpability of not just the British Empire but also those currently in power in Israel who continue to push the Greater Israel agenda.
Certainly, the land of Palestine was not empty. It had approximately 900,000 Palestinians, Muslims, Christians, and Jews.
@@noraibrahim8862it didn't even have that population in the first British census on 1922. The land was highly underpopulated and had less than 350,000 people in it for over 1000 years before 1860.
Israel accept s it doesn't have the totality of its land. Just the scraps. The Arab Palestinians should have done the same - greater Palestine was Jordan Lebanon and Southern Syria. The region given to them at Partition in 1948. Furthermore, as Zuheir Mohsen of the PLO stated: Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons"...
and the way he addresses these will give the legitimacy to his channel becasue we know that answers here.
I’m guessing this first episode takes us to sometime around 13.8 billion years ago…
If it's not your land how do you promise it to someone else ! ! !
With imperialism
Britain defeated the Ottoman empire. thus taking control of their territory. so yes the land did belong to the British
Land was conquered by the British intern makes it their land. Pretty straight forward when nations lose wars they also lose land.
Incorrect @@hnd450 the ottomans ruled Palestine but the people of Palestine were the owners. Jewish refugees were given access, but they ended up expelling their hosts and talking over their land.
@@yosefyonin6824 Wrong. The Ottoman Empire ceded the land to the League of Nations, who set up a number of Mandates. Britain had to run every decision for approval by the LON, which means the whole world voted on all of this.
Notice that the word Palestinians never appears in the document. Why? Because that description did not exist until the 1960s. They were simply Arab peoples.
There are are three glaring omissions here:
1) The justifiable declaration of war by the Ottoman Empire against the then allies was grounded in JIHAD , but not against the German Austrian allies. Theirs's was a holy Islamic war.
2) No mention of The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, **Hajj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini**, a truly authentic Palestinian by anyone’s definition is a key figure in this history. And the subsequent mentor of the Soviet backed Egyptian Yasser Arafat
3) The Holocaust
How so?
Claiming that the Ottoman Empire's declaration of jihad was justifiable overlooks the complex political context of World War I. The Ottomans actually used religious rhetoric to unify their empire, but this was less about true holy war and more about maintaining power amid a crumbling state.
Moreover, framing it as a "holy Islamic war" can perpetuate harmful stereotypes about Islam. Wars are often fought for political and territorial gains rather than purely religious motives. It's also important to see this through a lens of imperialism and the struggles of people rather than simplistic religious narratives. The consequences of these conflicts still resonate today, especially in how we view resistance movements and the fight for self-determination in the region.
You've done a fairly good job otherwise, though I won't attempt to address them all as it's a little bit too expensive.
Doesn't need a 15-minute explanation to answer the question.
I can do it in a second:
Yes.
No.
We say about the Balfour Declaration that it is “a promise from those who do not have to those who do not deserve.”
Objectively…..the British, for such a small nation, really punched well above its weight for centuries.
Id expect a video of the history to start at the beginning of the troubles. Bit strange this didn't
Don't blame us! It' s the Americans' fault!! Seems reasonable.
The old divide and conquer routine
Just like the American Civil War.
@@NostalgiaNet8The Republican Party, very strong, won the war
How people can watch this and still not see that Israel are victims too, baffles me.
If they are victims why are they still killing Palestinians to this day? It’s difficult to play a victim and also a oppressor
Hindsight.
Unusual for the British to be causing Chaos abroad 🤣
Yeah, like go figure.
Yeah, they had practice dumping Europeans in countries like Australia which was most certainly already inhabited.
The Arabs of the region got their own state it was called Transjordan. At no time did the British promise them the entire territory. Also there are conflicting estimates of the Jewish population of Palestine at the beginning of WW1 (1914). They range anywhere from 59,000 to 94,000 (or 8.5-13.6% of the population). Regardless they were a relatively small minority in the region.
The problem that I have what give the British empire the right on the land of Palestine? Especially give it to someone else.
Are you that devoid of historical knowledge? The Ottomans signed All their lands over to the Allies after WW1. The Allies gave the responsibility of the lands to the League of Nations. The League of Nations created 3 Mandates out of the former Ottoman lands, the Mandate of Mesopotamia (Iraq), the Mandate of Syria and Lebanon, and the Mandate of Palestine.
The British were made the administrators of the Mandate of Palestine. The first thing the British did was illegally give the Arab Hashemites 77% of the Mandate of Palestine, leaving Only 23% to become the future Jewish state.
The Entire League of Nations voted unanimously for the Mandate of Palestine Charter which had one mission only;
*_"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"_*
There was NO other people spoken of in the Mandate of Palestine Charter except the *_"non-Jewish communities in Palestine."_*
The maps drawn post war were erroneous, Syria and Lebanon were not split yet, and the NW corner of Syria was not yet taken out.
Too bad this hasn't been put out years ago, year after year.
why is there even a question mark in the title?
what is happening today in Gaza is a *direct* result of
British imperial machinations in the 1st half of the 20th century,
and US imperial machinations in the second.
(and now it *is* about oil)
This video insists on separating Levantine Christians from Arabs, all are Arabs, some are Muslims and some are Christians
So its completely and utterly the french's fault
Isn’t everything 😃 lol
Je plaisante, mes amis
@nigeh5326 yes, exactly
@breamoreboy Nice racism.
@breamoreboyhow do you know your mum is south wales?By your analysis you’d have to trace your family roots back over 100 years to say that. You’re probably a mongrel, like most of us.
Britain wanted to use the oil resources and Suez Canal.
Was the Rothschild family instrumental in shaping policy? Britain depended on their financing.