27:49 Cinders and ashes are a steam engine's waste products, right? So when they cry *"cinders and ashes!"* it's their way of saying *"shit and piss!"* and I love that.
I will never not laugh at the 'my doctor has forbidden me to pull/push' gag. It's even funnier in CGI, because the framing device implies that Edward is poking fun at Topham.
I think what I love about the Brenner era is how the team didn’t forget about the original series. For obvious reasons they changed some things, but making it quite consistent with the original stuff was something Brenner and his crew did a fine job at. Great video as usual, Nic!
Adventure Continues by arc minister of old iron Thomas come to breakfast flying kipper Edward exploits James buzz buzz 4 little engines home at last and special funnel
To this day I NEVER gonna understand how the DRIVER did not relize there where no coaches. We cant fully blame Thomas here, clearley his driver and fireman where asleep too
Well then, they've probably been asleep every other time Thomas got into an accident, whether because of his own recklessness or someone else's. If so, then Sir Topham Hatt needs to straight up fire them lol.
There has been at least a few cases in real life. For example, the Great Eastern Railway ran so-called "Jazz trains". They served north east suburbs of London, and were quite possibly the most hectic services in the entire country. A passenger train would arrive at the end of its service, and crews and workers usually had only ten minutes to serve a train and clear the platform (sometimes less), including having to change engines or run around trains. It was extremely important trains left on time, as any delays had a huge domino effect on following trains. There was apparently more than one case where a tank engine left the station without coaches. Sometimes it was caught quickly, but there was at least one case where it wasn't until the train made it to the next station that the crew noticed they left behind their train!
The Railway Series version of the story made more sense, and even Tug brought it up in his Thomas Debunked video. As confirmed by a track plan of Vicarstown(the big station used in the books), Thomas only got as far as the Yard Entrance. That signalbox he stopped at and realized the mistake, was the one for the Vicarstown station. Meaning he only traveled like a few meters or a mile.
According to your comments, there are a couple minor callbacks I did in fact miss. They are as follows: "The Sad Story of Henry" In Season 20's Henry in the Dark, the engines tease Henry for always being scared and Gordon recites the opening rhyme of that episode, recalling the time Henry stayed in the tunnel because he was afraid of the rain. Henry also says "Chicken pox are scarier than RAIN" in Season 19's Henry Spots Trouble. "The Flying Kipper" In 2013's King of the Railway, Gordon laments Henry needing special coal, to which Toby responds "That was fixed years ago!", referring to Henry's rebuild in this episode. I can't believe I forgot this one! "Special Funnel" and "Steamroller" In Season 24's The Great Little Railway Show, Peter Sam brags about his special funnel, and Sir Handel brags about his wheels. Both things are introduced in their respective episodes, though they aren't really recalling events from them so I don't think this one really counts. I think that's it, though I wouldn't be surprised if there's more. Comment below if you know of others!
Edward Said that Phillip reminds him of a engine who wanted to see the world, refering to Thomas Making him Blush. (Sniffs) Has Anyone Got any Tissues? Because our Little blue Engine has all grown up! Until AEG that is.
In Tale Of The Brave, Henry mentions to James “you meant to deliver fish, not swim with them!” As a loose callback to “Something In The Air” if that counts?
I just realised that there's a flashback to the first Thomas thing narrated by Michael Angelis in the last Thomas thing narrated by Michael Angelis... fitting.
@jasminejohnston6393 Michael angelis died in 2020 so I think when he stopped narrating thomas and friends he just retired so yeah Michael angelis died in 2020
@@ShiningTimeStudios475 I think Joseph’s performance in SLOTLT is probably the best Thomas performance any actor has ever given. But John was definitely more consistent and usually better.
You can tell Season 1 was probably their favorite to recreate flashbacks because they were the one's everyone remembers and the easiest ones to recreate. 😂😊
I still think The Fat Controller standing idly by while everyone is pulling Henry out from the tunnel to which leads him making an excuse by claiming his doctor had forbidden him to both pull AND push is one of the funniest things from the Classic Series that I still laugh to this day just because of how the line and scenario was delivered perfectly in both the Narrative and CGI versions. 9:56
Down The Mine is so popular that the Carlin US dub is on many vhs tapes and DVDs over the years. A shame that the conclusion Thomas Meets Tge Queen only saw on dvd release for the Best Of Thomas dvd version
For the flashbacks in Thomas , Terrence And The Snow, Percy And Harold, Diesel Does It Again I would love if they got the locations done correctly for the CGI series.
@@fanofeverything30465 maybe so but I still would've loved to see them do that simply Awdry himself had come up with the whole Island Of Sodor in the 1st place.
The CGI era's care towards the classic series and even the railway series remembering those older episodes is always a W in my book. Edit:One thing I noticed is that when the trucks were pushing James he went down Thomas's branch line meaning the cow field has to be down there
You missed the time “The Sad Story of Henry” was referenced in Season 20 Episode 21, “Henry in the Dark,” where Gordon teases Henry by saying the “Once an engine attached to a train” rhyme to him.
This was - as always - a really great video! Personally though, i think I would've structured it slightly differently, as in, instead of working the refrences back through the classic series, I would've worked my way through the CGI series itself, talking about how they evolved over time. I think it would've helped with alot of the context of the references too, with why they were being brought up, because I do think there is a storta evolution to how they refrences the classic stuff in the CGI series, and how the CGI canon slowly changed over time. haha, this is also a video idea I've been toying around with for awhile, I must do it at some point!
ALSO just a few refrences i've thought of off the top of my head. I think Peter Sam and Sir Handel mentioned "Special Funnel" and "Steamroller" in The Great Little Railway Show. In Big World Adventures, Thomas talks about wanting to go see the world, which is a call back to Thomas & the Trucks. In Henry and the Dark, Gordon says "Once an Engine attached to a train was a afraid of a few drops of rain". In Cranky at the end of the line, the line that cranky says is quite similar to his introduction line. In The Other Side of the Mountain, Thomas and Bertie talk about him flying, which is a call back to Bertie's line at the end of "Thomas & Bertie". Lost Treasure has the same line about Thomas' firebox in "Thomas & Gordon" from Series 1. In The Thomas Way, a screen shot from Series 6 is used, while not an episode references, it is a call back to the model series with the photo. And I think thats about it
@@ThomasTheorist I'm surprised Michael White's episodes didn't show up much in this video, considering he's the one everyone associates with fan nods.
The bit about James pushing Henry out in _The Adventure Begins_ gets better when you realized the red engine that tried in the books was meant to be James. That's what Awdry intended but had to change it when kids questioned why James was red, then black on his first day, then red again.
I really love how casual some of these callbacks are, like the Engines are talking about these adventures like fond memories they have.😊 Also I really wish they had made that Gordon episode it sounds hilarious.
In the “where in the world is Thomas” song the line “he could have strayed into a woodland on a track that’s overgrown” could’ve been interpreted as a reference to the great discovery but more likely referring to hiro of the rails
one thing i like about the CGI flashbacks are they can go into more detail about things they couldn't do with models, James' crash was certainly a lot better as we saw it happen
Holy crap I didn’t realize how Season 1 was THE most frequently callback season. Yeah it’s the 1st season and lots of it was because of The Adventure Begins, but just whoa, that realization completely slipped past me XD Great video dude^^
I actually quite like James with the black paint job. The red trimming really adds to it and it's really nice. Then again black is my favorite color so I'm a little biased.
Chapters: Intro - 0:00 Season 1 - 3:12 Season 2 - 32:30 Season 3 - 36:24 Season 4 - 41:10 Season 5? - 44:37 Season 6 - 44:59 Season 7 - 47:26 Season 8 - 48:41 Season 9 - 49:24 The Callback to The Railway Series - 49:58 Conclusion + Announcements - 51:23
No one gonna talk about the fact that the Brenner Era did go back and recalled two HiT episodes? Also, this could be a good source to mapping out the CGI Timeline of Thomas.
I have something to say about Oliver in Toad's Adventure, Maybe he doesnt mention Douglas being involved because he may be talking about when he escaped from the scrap yard BEFORE he was found by Douglas, remember when in the books he was moving through England to avoid being found by the diesels and scrapped by British Rail? Well, maybe in Toad's Adventure he is talking about that time and not when Douglas found him, and toad remembering may be just a TV addition
@@fanofeverything30465that could be, but Duncan was mentioned by a couple narrow gauge engines in season 16 even though he hadn’t returned to the series at that point.
It's amazing how many callbacks there are to the classic series, even in Big World! Big Adventures!, and it's all thanks to the writers who still care for Thomas. 👏 I certainly enjoyed The Adventure Begins for all its recreations of series 1, a childhood favourite of mine. 😀
40:50-41:08 I don't think it's really that strange though because Unscheduled Stops was 14 years later from Bulgy Rides Again, Thomas could've easily forgotten about Bulgy cause he never really knew him for any prolonged time at all, and Bulgy not being the most trustworthy of characters back in Season 3 was going to use shortcuts to gradually rid the engine race, and on his first day of plotting on the Little Western he was trying to get to the other side of Tidmouth's terminus before Duck until he found he wasn't big enough to fit under a bridge, and Thomas was one of the engines at the other side of the terminus when Duck reclaimed the passengers, and after Duck probably telling Thomas how troublesome Bulgy was doesn't that speak volumes for mistrust?
Such a shame that the adventure begins footage had to be pixelated, but it's always an pleasure to hear your opinions, Unlucky tug :) those flash backs really bring me back!
18:12 Words can not express how much I loved this scene. The Troublesome Trucks song is probably my favorite song in the series next to “Accidents Will Happen”.
It’s quite a shocker when you realize the CGI series was more consistent with lore than the model series. Like Rheneas was consistently in the background in season four when he should’ve been at the works being mended.
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Strange that Season 5 didn’t have that much callbacks. It would’ve been interesting to have episodes recalling those episodes. Whether it’s Cranky’s first day at the docks being cranky and later got toppled by a tramp steamer, the engines having trouble with lorries, Gordon crashing through a station, James having trouble with a tree, Percy feeling put upon with too much work,Toad being a runaway train, Duncan getting spooked believing he saw a ghost train on the old iron bridge or the engines experience with a boulder. Plus it would’ve been cool to see Derek, Old Slow Coach, Bertram, or Old Bailey again as well as bring George back for an episode and give Thumper and episode and recall Rusty and the Boulder.
The CGI series loves it's callback. Back when the Brenner era was in it's prime it was a treat seeing them happen. And yeah, if only we could turn back time.
One that was missed for 'Thomas & Gordon' was when in SLOTLT, the narrator says "His fire had gone out, and there wasn't enough steam!" I really like this video! Honestly, I'm kind of a sucker for callbacks and references to past events since it shows that continuity exists. I was surprised to see that one from 'Percy & the Magic Carpet'. I also think that the "He could've bashed into some buffers" line was a reference to 'Thomas & the Trucks' since Gordon hits the buffers at Maron Station like Thomas did. If not, it was probably a reference to 'Thomas the Quarry Engine' where the same thing happens. Anyway, nice job, Tug!
It just dawned on me that the nitrogen era “down the mine” location is far more accurate than the one from season 23. That shouldn’t be shocking, but I thought it was worth noting how they look different.
Even if they were different canons, the events of the models series are clearly still canon to the cgi series. And yes, characters like BoCo, Duke, Stepney, Arthur, Murdoch and Molly still exist.
You missed the reference to Wrong Road in Tale of the Brave. After the cold open, Sir Topham Hatt states, “While they (Bill and Ben) may be better known for playing tricks on their fellow engines.” Gordon says, “You can say that again.” which referenced the point in Wrong Road when they tricked Gordon into thinking they were going to dump him in the sea because they made it seem as if they didn’t know that it was Gordon they were around.
Great video! It was so fun to revisit the CGI series! I hate to be that guy, but Hunt the Truck technically has 2 callbacks. The title itself is a reference to Mavis and Ben says “got to see a coach about a train”, referring to Ghost Train. Not sure if these fall under your “Little Engines can do Big Things” rule, but I thought I might mention them
What would've been better is actually seeing Douglas crush the Spiteful Brakevan being recreated. Seeing actual actions in motion so the consequences are more severe..
I must say, that's a great video of callbacks. Shows that model and CGI events are both in the same show thus same continuity regardless of differences.
It’s insane how even though we got the narrow gauge engines in CGI, there were never any callbacks to them in season 4. I would’ve loved to see a CGI flashback of Gallant Old Engine
I find it funny how both versions of Thomas comes to Breakfast has him cause different levels of destruction. Model series Thomas: *crashes into the front of a house, causing thousands worth of property damage and twisting the front of his body* Cgi Thomas: *Pushes just his head into a wall, creating a hole in that could be easily be patched up in a few hours*
I really don't know why they couldn't have turned Henry back into his old shape in the Adventure Begins. It would've looked so cool and a great tribute to Season 1. It would've been so easy too. All they had to do was taper the firebox and remove the splashes. It would've only taken like 10 minutes.
Considering they had to twice the amount of movies than what they usually had to for a year, and that the other 2015 movie had a bunch of returnees they had to make models for, it's understandable that they would have to save time/money somewhere. Personally I would've sacrificed Alfie's return to get old shape Henry
@@fanofeverything30465I mean Alfie was like Jack's right hand man it only makes sense Especially since they wanted to bring back Oliver for the gag it'd be weird to not also have Alfie
Thomas technically hasn’t been so consistent with lore if so Fergus ,stepney, Arthur, Neville, Dennis, boco , splatter, dodge, city of turo, class 40, duke,Murdoch, Hank ,lady , and Derick would still be in the franchise
You forgot two references to Trouble in the Shed. In The Adventure Begins, Sir Topham Hatt says the engines will have to shunt their own trains until he can "get another small engine like Thomas," hinting at Percy's eventual arrival to Sodor. And in Season 19, Goodbye Sir Topham Hatt, the station master says "There's trouble in the shed."
God I am so chronically online on the thomas wiki because I know about basically all of these. The only one that I never put 2 and 2 together with was with Percy and the Magic Carpet
A little surprised you forgot this, considering the amount of times that Emily Saves the World was mentioned at the end, but in that episode at the docks, Emily mentions drying off Sodor United’s sticky laundry.
That wasn’t a callback to the model series. All the callbacks done in this video was to the model series. The stinky laundry callback was to another episode in the CGI series.
Quite a lovely video and of course I always enjoyed when the CGI would reference the old. However I realize earlier you forgot the references made in season 24's great little Railway show about Peter Sam's special funnel and the events of steamroller. But other than that you're pretty much got everything else. Keep up the good work Tug.
my headcanon for all the discrepancies between the cgi-era flashbacks and the actual episodes is that it’s either the engines misremembering some details, or the cgi series takes place in an alternate timeline and certain crashes/incidents are (to quote across the spiderverse) “canon events”
I wish to God the "John. T Jazz Theme of Thomas' trucks was in the scene when Thomas' pulls the trucks" 😢😢. That was always my favorite Season 1 theme!😢😢😂
Great video Unlucky Tug showing the many differences and call backs between the model series and the CGI series I grew up watching the Uk narration of the classic model series with Ringo Starr and the late Michel Angelis then with the brilliant Mark Morgan narrating the CGI series and my all time favorite John Hassler narrating the final series BWBA as the voice of Thomas thanks for sharing this amazing video of my favorite childhood show 👍💙🚂
Side note: Oliver not mentioning Douglas in his escape story is probably because as of season 18, the Scottish twins had not returned to CGI yet, not until SLOTLT and they rarely referenced non returning characters. Amazing vid btw!
Well since they referenced Duncan in season 16, I find it rather weird that they didn’t mention Douglas here, but as Tug said, maybe he was exaggerating about himself.
Well, Duncan was mentioned in season 16 and he hadn’t returned yet, so I don’t believe that’s a good reason for why Olivier never mentioned Douglas. I believe it’s, as Tugs said, he was exaggerating. He always sounds incredibly proud and pompous when retelling his escape.
@@JZJ7777 yeah that does make a lot of sense, I think they always planned for Duncan to return at the time but his IRL counterpart was out of service at the time so they never got its measurements for his CGI Model
I’m so happy I found your channel because I grew up watching the early seasons of Thomas because my dad is train engineer. I miss those earlier seasons I wish I could watch them now
There was a season 4 callback that you missed. It was from Steam Roller where the engines tease Sir Handel about his wheels which Peter Sam does in season 23's The Great Little Railway Show.
4:56: Sidenote: On top of that exchange, Gordon's "Yes, I will" in "The Adventure Begins" is a reference to the original UK Dub of "Thomas and Gordon"; both versions of the US Dub (Ringo Starr and George Carlin) omitted this line.
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27:49 Cinders and ashes are a steam engine's waste products, right? So when they cry *"cinders and ashes!"* it's their way of saying *"shit and piss!"* and I love that.
I only just noticed that
UCK. Not another brony today
Same
holy shit just realised that
holy shit that's right
John Hassler's Thomas voice is great. He can sound so innocent, sassy, or done with everything.
Agreed. I grew up hearing the UK dubs when I was younger.
Honestly I think Jonathan Hasler, DieselD199/Trent Stanley and Keiko Toda/戸田 恵子 make great Thomas voices
What about Joseph May?
Agreed; John Hasler is the best voice for Thomas in my opinion. 😃
@@randomnessetc5600 Joseph May is fine, but I prefer the UK voices.
I will never not laugh at the 'my doctor has forbidden me to pull/push' gag. It's even funnier in CGI, because the framing device implies that Edward is poking fun at Topham.
I personally think sir topham hat needs a new doctor one that doesn't forbid him from doing things like push an pull
@@Mildcat743 He's just making an excuse
worst doctor ever
Yes, I love that too! I also love how annoyed his assistants look with Sir Topham Hatt not helping.
I think what I love about the Brenner era is how the team didn’t forget about the original series. For obvious reasons they changed some things, but making it quite consistent with the original stuff was something Brenner and his crew did a fine job at. Great video as usual, Nic!
Adventure Continues by arc minister of old iron Thomas come to breakfast flying kipper Edward exploits James buzz buzz 4 little engines home at last and special funnel
Hooray. You finally got your channel back.
@@joshuaW5621 nope, I didn’t. Unfortunately I lost all my content, though this is my new channel.
@@toomuchtoby1well either way it’s great to have you back.
And shows that model events does happen in CGI thus same continuity despite differences.
24:55 The way it cuts to James _screaming_ in fear for, like, two seconds, only to immediately cut back to present James is comedy gold
Literally is a family guy cutaway
30:08
@@superemeraldproductions I wonder if that was supposed to be a reference to Family Guy
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*”AAAAAAAA“*
(Gasps)
James had a PTSD flashback lol
I love it when shows have continuity because it makes everything feel connected, and these Thomas flashbacks are great.
Thomas : *being thrusted at mach 5 across sodor*
Bertie : "want to race thomas?"
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"Nevermind."
Thomas: AAAAAAA-
To this day I NEVER gonna understand how the DRIVER did not relize there where no coaches. We cant fully blame Thomas here, clearley his driver and fireman where asleep too
Well then, they've probably been asleep every other time Thomas got into an accident, whether because of his own recklessness or someone else's.
If so, then Sir Topham Hatt needs to straight up fire them lol.
There has been at least a few cases in real life.
For example, the Great Eastern Railway ran so-called "Jazz trains". They served north east suburbs of London, and were quite possibly the most hectic services in the entire country. A passenger train would arrive at the end of its service, and crews and workers usually had only ten minutes to serve a train and clear the platform (sometimes less), including having to change engines or run around trains. It was extremely important trains left on time, as any delays had a huge domino effect on following trains. There was apparently more than one case where a tank engine left the station without coaches. Sometimes it was caught quickly, but there was at least one case where it wasn't until the train made it to the next station that the crew noticed they left behind their train!
@@Dat-Mudkip Oh god I feel so bad fore that Krew the moment they relized this must have bein horrefying
@@neptuneplaneptune3367I can't decipher your words
The Railway Series version of the story made more sense, and even Tug brought it up in his Thomas Debunked video. As confirmed by a track plan of Vicarstown(the big station used in the books), Thomas only got as far as the Yard Entrance. That signalbox he stopped at and realized the mistake, was the one for the Vicarstown station. Meaning he only traveled like a few meters or a mile.
I love that “apparently” from Sir Topam hat. Like he knows Gordon is just being dramatic
I know! I loved that too.
According to your comments, there are a couple minor callbacks I did in fact miss. They are as follows:
"The Sad Story of Henry"
In Season 20's Henry in the Dark, the engines tease Henry for always being scared and Gordon recites the opening rhyme of that episode, recalling the time Henry stayed in the tunnel because he was afraid of the rain. Henry also says "Chicken pox are scarier than RAIN" in Season 19's Henry Spots Trouble.
"The Flying Kipper"
In 2013's King of the Railway, Gordon laments Henry needing special coal, to which Toby responds "That was fixed years ago!", referring to Henry's rebuild in this episode. I can't believe I forgot this one!
"Special Funnel" and "Steamroller"
In Season 24's The Great Little Railway Show, Peter Sam brags about his special funnel, and Sir Handel brags about his wheels. Both things are introduced in their respective episodes, though they aren't really recalling events from them so I don't think this one really counts.
I think that's it, though I wouldn't be surprised if there's more. Comment below if you know of others!
Edward Said that Phillip reminds him of a engine who wanted to see the world, refering to Thomas Making him Blush.
(Sniffs) Has Anyone Got any Tissues? Because our Little blue Engine has all grown up! Until AEG that is.
In Tale Of The Brave, Henry mentions to James “you meant to deliver fish, not swim with them!” As a loose callback to “Something In The Air” if that counts?
In the Where in the World is Thomas number, Marion and Bill make references to Percy Gets it Right and Something Fishy, respectively.
@@ThomasLover He's not making reference to a specific event
@@TheUnluckyTug_official You should pin this comment
I just realised that there's a flashback to the first Thomas thing narrated by Michael Angelis in the last Thomas thing narrated by Michael Angelis... fitting.
Poetic
@@fanofeverything30465 It's like poetry, it rhymes.
RIP Michael Angelis…
@jasminejohnston6393 Michael angelis died in 2020 so I think when he stopped narrating thomas and friends he just retired so yeah Michael angelis died in 2020
Hearing all these CGI UK dub clips reminds me how incredible of a Thomas John Hasler is. He will always be the ultimate Thomas.
He and Eddie Glen just ARE Thomas in my book.
HE and JOSEPH, ARE THOMAS in my book. 😊
@@ShiningTimeStudios475 I think Joseph’s performance in SLOTLT is probably the best Thomas performance any actor has ever given. But John was definitely more consistent and usually better.
@@tomgallagher655 He and Ben Small are Thomas in my opinion
You can tell Season 1 was probably their favorite to recreate flashbacks because they were the one's everyone remembers and the easiest ones to recreate. 😂😊
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@kenzothetankengine Hey my boy 👦
Only thing is, they didn't recreate the line that ahs been gone through the episode "THomas' Truck", it was: "LOOK OUT FOR THE TRAIN"
Great video! One of the things that I really respect from the CGI era of Thomas is not completely ignoring the canon
What about minister arc images of CGI Thomas Adventure Continue
@@vanessasandoval96you realise that’s not official right?
@@joshuaW5621 honestly with all the cgi recreated flashbacks I’m surprised Thomas and Bertie was never referenced given how iconic that episode is
@@vanessasandoval96what does that have to do with anything tho?
And shows that model events does took place with CGI events too.
I still think The Fat Controller standing idly by while everyone is pulling Henry out from the tunnel to which leads him making an excuse by claiming his doctor had forbidden him to both pull AND push is one of the funniest things from the Classic Series that I still laugh to this day just because of how the line and scenario was delivered perfectly in both the Narrative and CGI versions. 9:56
31:03 you forgot how in the flashback, Thomas' crew are shown STILL IN THE CAB. Unlike in the original where they were knocked off the fooplate
Down The Mine is so popular that the Carlin US dub is on many vhs tapes and DVDs over the years. A shame that the conclusion Thomas Meets Tge Queen only saw on dvd release for the Best Of Thomas dvd version
They've fallen out in universe We just see them still in the cap because the animation crew didn't know they weren't supposed to be
How else would he be reversing
@@bazboyd44 It's implied that the engines can drive themselves
@@fanofeverything30465 The Watsonian explanation could be that Thomas misremembered.
I just love the CGI era mainly because of the voice actors they give so much depth and feel to each character.
It’s always such a nice treat seeing the cgi series reference the model series. It shows how much the writers did their research.
i mean most of the writers (if not all) grew up watching those model episodes so they could probably recall it from memory
For the flashbacks in Thomas , Terrence And The Snow, Percy And Harold, Diesel Does It Again I would love if they got the locations done correctly for the CGI series.
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@@joelcartagena953 It's a separate timeline
@@fanofeverything30465 maybe so but I still would've loved to see them do that simply Awdry himself had come up with the whole Island Of Sodor in the 1st place.
22:50 *”I’M COMING OFF THE RAILS!!!”*
The CGI era's care towards the classic series and even the railway series remembering those older episodes is always a W in my book.
Edit:One thing I noticed is that when the trucks were pushing James he went down Thomas's branch line meaning the cow field has to be down there
You missed the time “The Sad Story of Henry” was referenced in Season 20 Episode 21, “Henry in the Dark,” where Gordon teases Henry by saying the “Once an engine attached to a train” rhyme to him.
The Sad Story of Henry was also mentioned twice in Henry Spots Trouble and Henry in the Dark.
This was - as always - a really great video!
Personally though, i think I would've structured it slightly differently, as in, instead of working the refrences back through the classic series, I would've worked my way through the CGI series itself, talking about how they evolved over time. I think it would've helped with alot of the context of the references too, with why they were being brought up, because I do think there is a storta evolution to how they refrences the classic stuff in the CGI series, and how the CGI canon slowly changed over time. haha, this is also a video idea I've been toying around with for awhile, I must do it at some point!
ALSO just a few refrences i've thought of off the top of my head.
I think Peter Sam and Sir Handel mentioned "Special Funnel" and "Steamroller" in The Great Little Railway Show. In Big World Adventures, Thomas talks about wanting to go see the world, which is a call back to Thomas & the Trucks. In Henry and the Dark, Gordon says "Once an Engine attached to a train was a afraid of a few drops of rain". In Cranky at the end of the line, the line that cranky says is quite similar to his introduction line. In The Other Side of the Mountain, Thomas and Bertie talk about him flying, which is a call back to Bertie's line at the end of "Thomas & Bertie". Lost Treasure has the same line about Thomas' firebox in "Thomas & Gordon" from Series 1. In The Thomas Way, a screen shot from Series 6 is used, while not an episode references, it is a call back to the model series with the photo.
And I think thats about it
@@ThomasTheoristyou and the unlucky tug are the best Thomas UA-camrs
@@Toysonicandfriends2agreed
I look forward to seeing it
@@ThomasTheorist I'm surprised Michael White's episodes didn't show up much in this video, considering he's the one everyone associates with fan nods.
I hate how in the adventure begins, the cranes pick up James and his tender at the same time without his tender coupling snapping from the weight.
The bit about James pushing Henry out in _The Adventure Begins_ gets better when you realized the red engine that tried in the books was meant to be James. That's what Awdry intended but had to change it when kids questioned why James was red, then black on his first day, then red again.
James’ crash in The Adventure Begins truly shows what you can do with CGI as a medium for this show
I really love how casual some of these callbacks are, like the Engines are talking about these adventures like fond memories they have.😊
Also I really wish they had made that Gordon episode it sounds hilarious.
In the “where in the world is Thomas” song the line “he could have strayed into a woodland on a track that’s overgrown” could’ve been interpreted as a reference to the great discovery but more likely referring to hiro of the rails
Yeah but he strayed into an abandoned town, not a woodland
an abandoned town that he had to go through tree's and bushes to get to@@rustymidlander05
I Think It's From The Great Discovery (2008)
@@obaidulhoquebhuiyan7095 Thank goodness you specified the release date, I would've mistaken it for the other Great Discovery otherwise /s
@@rustymidlander05 What's the other great discovery
Take a shot every time Tug says "In this episode" or "in this one"
And you better do it with milkshakes.
@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822because you'd die if you did it with anything else. And even then
one thing i like about the CGI flashbacks are they can go into more detail about things they couldn't do with models, James' crash was certainly a lot better as we saw it happen
Holy crap I didn’t realize how Season 1 was THE most frequently callback season. Yeah it’s the 1st season and lots of it was because of The Adventure Begins, but just whoa, that realization completely slipped past me XD
Great video dude^^
I actually quite like James with the black paint job. The red trimming really adds to it and it's really nice. Then again black is my favorite color so I'm a little biased.
2:40-3:02
What makes this even more ridiculous is that the movie has been publicly uploaded to the Official Thomas UA-cam channel.
Chapters:
Intro - 0:00
Season 1 - 3:12
Season 2 - 32:30
Season 3 - 36:24
Season 4 - 41:10
Season 5? - 44:37
Season 6 - 44:59
Season 7 - 47:26
Season 8 - 48:41
Season 9 - 49:24
The Callback to The Railway Series - 49:58
Conclusion + Announcements - 51:23
Season 1 took a good 29 minutes huh?
@@pokemonacer it was definitely well deserved
It always made me so happy they made call backs to the OG seasons
No one gonna talk about the fact that the Brenner Era did go back and recalled two HiT episodes?
Also, this could be a good source to mapping out the CGI Timeline of Thomas.
I have something to say about Oliver in Toad's Adventure, Maybe he doesnt mention Douglas being involved because he may be talking about when he escaped from the scrap yard BEFORE he was found by Douglas, remember when in the books he was moving through England to avoid being found by the diesels and scrapped by British Rail? Well, maybe in Toad's Adventure he is talking about that time and not when Douglas found him, and toad remembering may be just a TV addition
That, and a part of his speech isn't audible because the narrator started talking, so it's also possible Douglas was mentioned in that part
Maybe he mentioned Douglas in universe We just don't hear it because Donald and Douglas hadn't returned to the series
i was curious about that too.
It’s possible, but I’m more keen to believe he never mentioned Douglas because he’s too full for his buffers.
@@fanofeverything30465that could be, but Duncan was mentioned by a couple narrow gauge engines in season 16 even though he hadn’t returned to the series at that point.
It's amazing how many callbacks there are to the classic series, even in Big World! Big Adventures!, and it's all thanks to the writers who still care for Thomas. 👏 I certainly enjoyed The Adventure Begins for all its recreations of series 1, a childhood favourite of mine. 😀
Tug's new iconic line "This is referred back to in, you guessed it, *Emily saves the world* "
52:21 maybe someday, we could have another great comeback for Thomas. And who knows, maybe we could even get more callbacks to the model series then.
11:33 he was WHAT in the tunnel😭🙏
Bricked up inside a tunnel
40:50-41:08 I don't think it's really that strange though because Unscheduled Stops was 14 years later from Bulgy Rides Again, Thomas could've easily forgotten about Bulgy cause he never really knew him for any prolonged time at all, and Bulgy not being the most trustworthy of characters back in Season 3 was going to use shortcuts to gradually rid the engine race, and on his first day of plotting on the Little Western he was trying to get to the other side of Tidmouth's terminus before Duck until he found he wasn't big enough to fit under a bridge, and Thomas was one of the engines at the other side of the terminus when Duck reclaimed the passengers, and after Duck probably telling Thomas how troublesome Bulgy was doesn't that speak volumes for mistrust?
44:21 I think it's come quite clear that Davey Moore's favorite episode might be Bulls Eyes.
49:50 Same writer? Probably a coincidence.
Such a shame that the adventure begins footage had to be pixelated, but it's always an pleasure to hear your opinions, Unlucky tug :) those flash backs really bring me back!
15:49 I love the suspense sound here.
Joesph May is a good voice for Thomas and definitely love to see the backstories of CGI Thomas Episodes and Model Series Episodes
29:10 "wouldn't that be nice?" Henry's face:
18:12 Words can not express how much I loved this scene. The Troublesome Trucks song is probably my favorite song in the series next to “Accidents Will Happen”.
It’s quite a shocker when you realize the CGI series was more consistent with lore than the model series. Like Rheneas was consistently in the background in season four when he should’ve been at the works being mended.
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Seems like Emily Saves the World is just callback galore, and its great.
Strange that Season 5 didn’t have that much callbacks. It would’ve been interesting to have episodes recalling those episodes. Whether it’s Cranky’s first day at the docks being cranky and later got toppled by a tramp steamer, the engines having trouble with lorries, Gordon crashing through a station, James having trouble with a tree, Percy feeling put upon with too much work,Toad being a runaway train, Duncan getting spooked believing he saw a ghost train on the old iron bridge or the engines experience with a boulder. Plus it would’ve been cool to see Derek, Old Slow Coach, Bertram, or Old Bailey again as well as bring George back for an episode and give Thumper and episode and recall Rusty and the Boulder.
The CGI series loves it's callback. Back when the Brenner era was in it's prime it was a treat seeing them happen.
And yeah, if only we could turn back time.
To the good old days.
Nice to see that The Brenner Era was keen on so many call backs. They were sure keen to show fans they cared after years of HiT’s Writing Garbage.
One that was missed for 'Thomas & Gordon' was when in SLOTLT, the narrator says "His fire had gone out, and there wasn't enough steam!"
I really like this video! Honestly, I'm kind of a sucker for callbacks and references to past events since it shows that continuity exists. I was surprised to see that one from 'Percy & the Magic Carpet'. I also think that the "He could've bashed into some buffers" line was a reference to 'Thomas & the Trucks' since Gordon hits the buffers at Maron Station like Thomas did. If not, it was probably a reference to 'Thomas the Quarry Engine' where the same thing happens. Anyway, nice job, Tug!
That doesn’t seem like a direct callback to Thomas and Gordon. That was just a quote from the episode, similar to the TATMR quotes.
Your analysis videos on the CGI era has opened me up to some hidden gems I had no idea about. This is nice by the way!
By now I've almost watched all the episodes he talked about in both videos.
Adventure Begins felt like a big love letter to the model fans
It just dawned on me that the nitrogen era “down the mine” location is far more accurate than the one from season 23. That shouldn’t be shocking, but I thought it was worth noting how they look different.
What if they remade off the rails in cgi
I like how this video can be used for everyone who believes in the separate timelines theory all of the episodes that are 100% canon to the cgi series
Im still gonna believe there the same timeline.
How the hell did you call to us before the video actually came out?
Even if they were different canons, the events of the models series are clearly still canon to the cgi series. And yes, characters like BoCo, Duke, Stepney, Arthur, Murdoch and Molly still exist.
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You missed the reference to Wrong Road in Tale of the Brave. After the cold open, Sir Topham Hatt states, “While they (Bill and Ben) may be better known for playing tricks on their fellow engines.” Gordon says, “You can say that again.” which referenced the point in Wrong Road when they tricked Gordon into thinking they were going to dump him in the sea because they made it seem as if they didn’t know that it was Gordon they were around.
Great video! It was so fun to revisit the CGI series! I hate to be that guy, but Hunt the Truck technically has 2 callbacks. The title itself is a reference to Mavis and Ben says “got to see a coach about a train”, referring to Ghost Train. Not sure if these fall under your “Little Engines can do Big Things” rule, but I thought I might mention them
I would've LOVED to see them recreate Donald's signalbox incident in Breakvan! 😔 😟 🙁
What would've been better is actually seeing Douglas crush the Spiteful Brakevan being recreated. Seeing actual actions in motion so the consequences are more severe..
@@keatonendler8202speaking of… Scruffy being pulled apart would’ve been interesting to see in CGI.
I’m surprised Thomas and Bertie was never recreated
Me Too!
Good idea since Douglas mentioned abt it in Emily in the middle
I must say, that's a great video of callbacks. Shows that model and CGI events are both in the same show thus same continuity regardless of differences.
It’s insane how even though we got the narrow gauge engines in CGI, there were never any callbacks to them in season 4. I would’ve loved to see a CGI flashback of Gallant Old Engine
I find it funny how both versions of Thomas comes to Breakfast has him cause different levels of destruction.
Model series Thomas: *crashes into the front of a house, causing thousands worth of property damage and twisting the front of his body*
Cgi Thomas: *Pushes just his head into a wall, creating a hole in that could be easily be patched up in a few hours*
Would love a video about the history of the Thomas Wooden Railway toys.
Those were my childhood.
"Hurry yourself" one of the best combacks thomas said
So happy you used the Michael Angelis narrations. His voice is real nostalgic to me.
Guess the cgi writers loved the model era episodes more than we thought lol.
That is a heck of a lot of references during the CGI period.
Its fascinating seeing all these callbacks!
I really don't know why they couldn't have turned Henry back into his old shape in the Adventure Begins. It would've looked so cool and a great tribute to Season 1. It would've been so easy too. All they had to do was taper the firebox and remove the splashes. It would've only taken like 10 minutes.
Considering they had to twice the amount of movies than what they usually had to for a year, and that the other 2015 movie had a bunch of returnees they had to make models for, it's understandable that they would have to save time/money somewhere. Personally I would've sacrificed Alfie's return to get old shape Henry
@@KukaakWhy Alfie's return
@@fanofeverything30465I mean Alfie was like Jack's right hand man it only makes sense
Especially since they wanted to bring back Oliver for the gag it'd be weird to not also have Alfie
@@Gamebuilder2000 I'd have Judy and Jerome for old shape Henry
Thomas technically hasn’t been so consistent with lore if so Fergus ,stepney, Arthur, Neville, Dennis, boco , splatter, dodge, city of turo, class 40, duke,Murdoch, Hank ,lady , and Derick would still be in the franchise
36:07 James in this scene fills me with joy for some reason
I think the callback to Alicia Botti was referencing her first appearance in Season 6, Thomas, Percy and the squeak, not Magic carpet.😂
Gordon didn't get to pull Alicia Botti in Thomas, Percy, and the Squeak. Thomas was supposed to, but Percy ended up taking her instead.
@@Trainmaster16 Oh yeah sorry
@shiningtimeproductions4910 Don't worry about it. No need to apologize, I was just letting you know.
You forgot two references to Trouble in the Shed. In The Adventure Begins, Sir Topham Hatt says the engines will have to shunt their own trains until he can "get another small engine like Thomas," hinting at Percy's eventual arrival to Sodor. And in Season 19, Goodbye Sir Topham Hatt, the station master says "There's trouble in the shed."
I'm surprised to have THAT many callbacks in the CGI Era. I do missed the Classic Model Series so much.
God I am so chronically online on the thomas wiki because I know about basically all of these.
The only one that I never put 2 and 2 together with was with Percy and the Magic Carpet
Same
13:57 "That's his ... 'eager' face ..."
Thomas was like an excited lil kid.
11:33 that sounded so wrong out of context💀💀
A little surprised you forgot this, considering the amount of times that Emily Saves the World was mentioned at the end, but in that episode at the docks, Emily mentions drying off Sodor United’s sticky laundry.
That happened in the cgi series.
That wasn’t a callback to the model series. All the callbacks done in this video was to the model series. The stinky laundry callback was to another episode in the CGI series.
Quite a lovely video and of course I always enjoyed when the CGI would reference the old. However I realize earlier you forgot the references made in season 24's great little Railway show about Peter Sam's special funnel and the events of steamroller. But other than that you're pretty much got everything else. Keep up the good work Tug.
BoCo disappearing is the funniest thing oh my god
I have an hours drive home, and listening to this while I head out will easy the journey. Thanks tug!
Bertie: want to race thomas
Thomas: *literally moving at light speed*
47:10 Bertie: nevermind
35:35 "Thomas comes to BREAFAST"
Yeah, you really nailed it with this one, tug.
I’m surprised Thomas and Bertie was never recreated in cgi
Yeah, Thomas and Bertie had so many episodes in CGI, they could've snuck in at least one reference
@@rustymidlander05 or a cgi recreated flashback
35:35 - "Thomas Comes To Breafast" Oof, not your finest moment man.
my headcanon for all the discrepancies between the cgi-era flashbacks and the actual episodes is that it’s either the engines misremembering some details, or the cgi series takes place in an alternate timeline and certain crashes/incidents are (to quote across the spiderverse) “canon events”
"He can't get up the hill with his goods train, apparently"
My new fav STH line.
You didn’t mention steamroller in the great little railway show where Peter Sam references sir handles steam roller wheels
Escape is the darkest episode because the Engines are saving Oliver from their boss, knowing that the same thing might just happen to them someday
I wish to God the "John. T Jazz Theme of Thomas' trucks was in the scene when Thomas' pulls the trucks" 😢😢. That was always my favorite Season 1 theme!😢😢😂
"Jaunty Jazzy" he meant
@@TheLazyFusspot_3428 Yes thank you 😊
Great video Unlucky Tug showing the many differences and call backs between the model series and the CGI series I grew up watching the Uk narration of the classic model series with Ringo Starr and the late Michel Angelis then with the brilliant Mark Morgan narrating the CGI series and my all time favorite John Hassler narrating the final series BWBA as the voice of Thomas thanks for sharing this amazing video of my favorite childhood show 👍💙🚂
Edward in the adventure begins was kinda like father figure to Thomas i like that.
The “Thomas Come to Breakfast” one looks like a reference to a certain horror movie
“Heeeeeeere’s Thomas!”
Side note: Oliver not mentioning Douglas in his escape story is probably because as of season 18, the Scottish twins had not returned to CGI yet, not until SLOTLT and they rarely referenced non returning characters. Amazing vid btw!
Well since they referenced Duncan in season 16, I find it rather weird that they didn’t mention Douglas here, but as Tug said, maybe he was exaggerating about himself.
Well, Duncan was mentioned in season 16 and he hadn’t returned yet, so I don’t believe that’s a good reason for why Olivier never mentioned Douglas. I believe it’s, as Tugs said, he was exaggerating. He always sounds incredibly proud and pompous when retelling his escape.
@@JZJ7777 yeah that does make a lot of sense, I think they always planned for Duncan to return at the time but his IRL counterpart was out of service at the time so they never got its measurements for his CGI Model
@@TCNat31yes, that’s true. That’s actually why he didn’t appear in Blue Mountain Mystery like originally intended.
I’m so happy I found your channel because I grew up watching the early seasons of Thomas because my dad is train engineer. I miss those earlier seasons I wish I could watch them now
There was a season 4 callback that you missed. It was from Steam Roller where the engines tease Sir Handel about his wheels which Peter Sam does in season 23's The Great Little Railway Show.
4:56: Sidenote: On top of that exchange, Gordon's "Yes, I will" in "The Adventure Begins" is a reference to the original UK Dub of "Thomas and Gordon"; both versions of the US Dub (Ringo Starr and George Carlin) omitted this line.