HI! Thank you for the great video...I didn't see info on where to purchase the 2 torches that were shown in the beginning, could you please tell what brands they are? Thank you!!
I have tried a Rothenberger mini gas torch from Skrewfix. It does get hot enough, 1300 C, but I am not sure if it is suitable. I have successfully made a ring with a large bezel, so I know it is possible, but am having trouble which may be partly poor technique on my part, e.g. flux burning off, silver getting red, but solder not flowing. Maybe I am underestimating how hot it gets? Sometimes I think I am moving the flame around the piece too much... The torch itself was initially spitting and snuffing itself out when you turned up the heat or tipped it. Can be spitty to refil too, and not possible to tell how full. Otherwise I love the fact that it is extremely lightweight and easy to direct, I can even pass it between hands to get more even exposure.
HI , I HAVE A KILN BUT FIND IT TAKES AN HOUR TO HEAT UP , NOW I MAKE FINGER RINGS AND BRACELETS, NOW WOULD ONE OF YOUR TORCHES MELT THE SRAP SILVER SO I CAN POUR IT INTO MY MOULDS . MANY THANKS .
Always a good idea to wear some protective glasses or goggles, something like this would be sufficient www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Safety-Glasses-prcode-999-244 x
I need to buy a new torch so this was helpful. My last one was the little hand held black one, not my favourite as felt the flame was generally not strong enough. Before then I had the Max flame (though I didn't realise that's what it was called) which I did like so was thinking to get another one of those, but looking on Cookson I realised they know also have one with something called a cyclone flame which is a bit more expensive but I can’t work out if it would be better or if I should go with my initial plan of a max flame.Do you use the cyclone flame torch at all? If so can you add any input on its usefulness in comparison to the other hand held torches?
Hi there, no I'm afraid I haven't seen this new cyclone torch. The Max Flame pro is ample for most jobs though. If you wanted to step up to the next level after that I would probably consider looking at professional jewellers torch which uses propane, but do make sure you do your research on that before buying one. Hope thats helps! x
There are maximum temperatures for the different torches - these will be stated on the different products descriptions. A standard torch would be fine for a ring. The bigger torches are helpful for larger pieces such as bangles x
I recently bought a Proxxon gas torch from RDG tools through ebay. The cost was £38. 60. There are seperate controls for air and gas. Hope this helps someone.
Hi, I use a micro weld for most jobs but I’m looking for something for 10-15 gram pendants and wondering if these smaller torches might do the job? Thank you
Yes a hand torch should be more powerful I believe. You can also get slightly more powerful hand torches for larger pieces, the Max Flame Pro is the next step up from a basic creme brûlée torch www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Max-Flame-Pro-Hand-Torch-Butane----Blow-Torch-Max-1,300°c-prcode-999-955C Hope that helps! x
What was the brand name of the very first “handheld” torch she demonstrated, the black one? I rewatched the video multiple times and I don’t think she says the name/brand of it. It wasn’t listed in the video description either. Anyone catch that?
Hey lovely, Here is the link to this torch www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Jewellers-Soldering-Hand-Torch-----Butane-Blow-Torch-prcode-999-955 💕 xx
Hi there, yes it is possible to melt a small amount of metal in a crucible using a large/powerful torch - however, we'd always recommend looking to a proper course on casting at home before attempting to have a go. Hope that helps! x
Which torch for copper cuffs ? Butane torches are definitely not hot enough and I even have doubts that a Bernzomatic propane one is limited for that use.
I’ve bought two torches in the past month or so and after just a few weeks they just stop working. Anyone else have this problem? I’m obviously refilling them with butane but they last a shorter and shorter time and then just nothing. Can they get plugged?
Hi there, I believe the black torch, is one from Cooksongold.com which is Sistotec - see this link www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Jewellers-Soldering-Hand-Torch-----Butane-Blow-Torch-prcode-999-955?p=gs&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4mHjoRdMcS_w-uVVMI1jslkzA4_3bTCjWbKv-X1W86xeUMXfCW4ueEaAkoOEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Little smith torch . Propane Oxy ! Orca propane ! Big budy Turbo ! And now looking for a micro because mine blew up in my hand ! I use the hand torches 1 for brazing and one for small repairs on the run ! Jeweler of 35yrs Hand made Jewllwery !
Does anyone know how I could melt the tips of a braided copper bracelet I made? I've seen it on some copper bracelets but not sure exactly how to do it. I got a butane torch and tried to melt the tips but the copper wouldn't melt. Then I looked up and saw that I needed to get a soldering paste that will melt one piece of copper on to the other piece of copper. This of course would be useful, but what I was trying to do is just basically melt the tips without adding any extra copper on it. Then again I could just add a very thin layer say wrap around like a 28 gauge wire around the tips and just use some solder paste to melt them together then finely sand the excess wire down to make a nice even surface to the tips. Any thoughts on this? I am completely new to using a torch and feel pretty dumb tbh.
Hey lovely, You will need solder to join the pieces. If you are new to soldering I would recommend taking our course which is packed with tips learn.jewellersacademy.com/p/the-soldering-masterclass xx
Hello there I just received the max torch and I’m having trouble filling it sometimes the butane spits out,I tried Bernzomatic butane,Wouldn’t work I ended up using another brand. But I did contact the company where I got it from through Amazon they said that I should be using a pure butane I have read that triple refined butane is the best. Which brand/ type of butane do you use for your max torch? Thank you for any suggestions! April
Hi there! Thank you for such a helpful video....I'm a complete beginner, just starting out, learning from youtube only.... I have the Proxxon torch. As practice I'm making copper rings for now with silver solder (hard solder I think). But my soldering has been a disaster so far, I got it right 1 time only out of about 10 tries. Is it possible that this Proxxon torch has enough heat only for very small rings? I tried to solder some chunky ones (1 mm thick and about 1 cm wide copper) and it's just simply not working. I think everything else is OK (I clean them all, make sure they have a good joint etc.) Or could it be that maybe I'm using too much borax? (I make my own mixture from borax powder and water). Many thanks!
Hey lovely, Thank you for your comment. We have a lot of beginner courses on our website that I think you will find super helpful. You can find links to these here www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-making We also have a facebook group where you can ask questions to a community of jewellers facebook.com/groups/jewellersacademy ❤
You won't use a soldering iron in silversmithing. Soldering irons and the solder that they work with are used for other applications such as in electronics. Silver solder will only work with a torch or flame. Hope that helps! x
@@JewellersAcademy Many thanks dear Jessica for confirming this. I have used my kitchen torch to complete your course 'make a silver & gold acorn necklace' and it went successfully! The acorn I made looks lovely and I really like it. Though there are some small scratches on the acorn surface and it is not that shining as what you made in the video. Think I need to learn more about polishing :)
Hiya, it depends how often you use it. At the jewellery school where they are used daily we probably replace them once every 1-2 years. In my home workshop probably every 4 years or so. Jess
@@revelationtrain7518 Ah ok, again it depends I would guess you would get about a 30 mins-1 hour of torch time from the small one but as most jewellery jobs are just a few minutes long that can be a few weeks. If you buy a bottle of universal lighter refill that will keep you going for quite a few refills of the full torch too.
Thank you for your feed back! This video was filmed on a phone, so I appreciate the sound quality may not be as good as our professionally shot ones. Hopefully it wasn't too hard to follow 🤞
You made a very useful and Fun video. I learnt from it. Thank you.
So pleased that you found this helpful xx
such a helpful video, thank you 😊 i’ve been looking at my options as i’m slowly working towards having my own set up !
Glad it was helpful! Good luck with your venture - how exciting! x
HI! Thank you for the great video...I didn't see info on where to purchase the 2 torches that were shown in the beginning, could you please tell what brands they are? Thank you!!
Yes of course, they are siscotec and proxxon. You can get them from any major jewellery supplier. Jess
@@JewellersAcademy thank you!!
In India we use standard LPG Gas Cylinder and we attach Gas Pipe and Torch Gun to the Regulator.
We do solder to Gold Jewelery on daily basis.
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I have tried a Rothenberger mini gas torch from Skrewfix. It does get hot enough, 1300 C, but I am not sure if it is suitable. I have successfully made a ring with a large bezel, so I know it is possible, but am having trouble which may be partly poor technique on my part, e.g. flux burning off, silver getting red, but solder not flowing. Maybe I am underestimating how hot it gets? Sometimes I think I am moving the flame around the piece too much... The torch itself was initially spitting and snuffing itself out when you turned up the heat or tipped it. Can be spitty to refil too, and not possible to tell how full. Otherwise I love the fact that it is extremely lightweight and easy to direct, I can even pass it between hands to get more even exposure.
Hey lovely, thank you for your comment. It is really interesting to hear different people's experiences x
HI , I HAVE A KILN BUT FIND IT TAKES AN HOUR TO HEAT UP , NOW I MAKE FINGER RINGS AND BRACELETS, NOW WOULD ONE OF YOUR TORCHES MELT THE SRAP SILVER SO I CAN POUR IT INTO MY MOULDS . MANY THANKS .
Hi, I'm just starting out. I'd like to have a go at sand casting. Was wondering what sort of eye protection you'd recommend, please? Many thanks😊
Always a good idea to wear some protective glasses or goggles, something like this would be sufficient www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Safety-Glasses-prcode-999-244 x
I need to buy a new torch so this was helpful. My last one was the little hand held black one, not my favourite as felt the flame was generally not strong enough. Before then I had the Max flame (though I didn't realise that's what it was called) which I did like so was thinking to get another one of those, but looking on Cookson I realised they know also have one with something called a cyclone flame which is a bit more expensive but I can’t work out if it would be better or if I should go with my initial plan of a max flame.Do you use the cyclone flame torch at all? If so can you add any input on its usefulness in comparison to the other hand held torches?
Hi there, no I'm afraid I haven't seen this new cyclone torch. The Max Flame pro is ample for most jobs though. If you wanted to step up to the next level after that I would probably consider looking at professional jewellers torch which uses propane, but do make sure you do your research on that before buying one. Hope thats helps! x
are there like max temperatures these torches achieve? which one would i use to make a simple pure silver ring with a yellow sapphire?
There are maximum temperatures for the different torches - these will be stated on the different products descriptions. A standard torch would be fine for a ring. The bigger torches are helpful for larger pieces such as bangles x
I recently bought a Proxxon gas torch from RDG tools through ebay. The cost was £38. 60. There are seperate controls for air and gas. Hope this helps someone.
Thanks for sharing x
Does that work for soldering small items like hand rings, as well as 5cm cuffs? I use copper.
Thank u for the info i didnt make my first piece yet
Thank you for sharing!! The smaller ones can be refilled, so why would there be waste in the end, or why would they be thrown out?
I think she means that the refill bottles make more waste versus using a larger refillable tank
Yes, the smaller torches are refillable x
This was really helpful. Thank you. ☺
You are so welcome!! I'm glad you found it useful :D
Jess x
Hi, I use a micro weld for most jobs but I’m looking for something for 10-15 gram pendants and wondering if these smaller torches might do the job? Thank you
Yes a hand torch should be more powerful I believe. You can also get slightly more powerful hand torches for larger pieces, the Max Flame Pro is the next step up from a basic creme brûlée torch www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Max-Flame-Pro-Hand-Torch-Butane----Blow-Torch-Max-1,300°c-prcode-999-955C
Hope that helps! x
What was the brand name of the very first “handheld” torch she demonstrated, the black one? I rewatched the video multiple times and I don’t think she says the name/brand of it. It wasn’t listed in the video description either. Anyone catch that?
Hey lovely, Here is the link to this torch www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Jewellers-Soldering-Hand-Torch-----Butane-Blow-Torch-prcode-999-955 💕 xx
Hi, thanks so much for the video. Is it possible to melt silver/gold with the handheld/micro torches for casting?
Hi there, yes it is possible to melt a small amount of metal in a crucible using a large/powerful torch - however, we'd always recommend looking to a proper course on casting at home before attempting to have a go. Hope that helps! x
Which torch for copper cuffs ? Butane torches are definitely not hot enough and I even have doubts that a Bernzomatic propane one is limited for that use.
Max Flame Pro is a heavy duty torch and good for large bangles and cuffs - have you tried that before? x
@@JewellersAcademy Not yet - thanks for the tip ! Will check where I can find it here in Jamaica
there is the Dremel 2200-1 which reaches tip temps of 2192 F.
Thanks for the tip! x
Can I use a cigar torch for soldering ring joints? It is just for a one off project.
I don't think so sorry. x
I’ve bought two torches in the past month or so and after just a few weeks they just stop working. Anyone else have this problem? I’m obviously refilling them with butane but they last a shorter and shorter time and then just nothing. Can they get plugged?
Would a Sievert torch work well to fuse two bits of 3mm copper wire together?
Yes it should do the job no probs - it is a professional level jewellers torch x
@@JewellersAcademy Thank you :)
what's the name of the first torch? and what temperature does each torch reach?
Hi there, I believe the black torch, is one from Cooksongold.com which is Sistotec - see this link www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Jewellers-Soldering-Hand-Torch-----Butane-Blow-Torch-prcode-999-955?p=gs&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4mHjoRdMcS_w-uVVMI1jslkzA4_3bTCjWbKv-X1W86xeUMXfCW4ueEaAkoOEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Little smith torch . Propane Oxy ! Orca propane ! Big budy Turbo ! And now looking for a micro because mine blew up in my hand ! I use the hand torches 1 for brazing and one for small repairs on the run ! Jeweler of 35yrs Hand made Jewllwery !
Yep stopped working set alight in my hand flamed up and leaked ! @@EnniRoc
Does anyone know how I could melt the tips of a braided copper bracelet I made? I've seen it on some copper bracelets but not sure exactly how to do it. I got a butane torch and tried to melt the tips but the copper wouldn't melt. Then I looked up and saw that I needed to get a soldering paste that will melt one piece of copper on to the other piece of copper. This of course would be useful, but what I was trying to do is just basically melt the tips without adding any extra copper on it. Then again I could just add a very thin layer say wrap around like a 28 gauge wire around the tips and just use some solder paste to melt them together then finely sand the excess wire down to make a nice even surface to the tips. Any thoughts on this? I am completely new to using a torch and feel pretty dumb tbh.
Hey lovely, You will need solder to join the pieces. If you are new to soldering I would recommend taking our course which is packed with tips learn.jewellersacademy.com/p/the-soldering-masterclass xx
Hello there I just received the max torch and I’m having trouble filling it sometimes the butane spits out,I tried Bernzomatic butane,Wouldn’t work I ended up using another brand. But I did contact the company where I got it from through Amazon they said that I should be using a pure butane I have read that triple refined butane is the best.
Which brand/ type of butane do you use for your max torch?
Thank you for any suggestions!
April
I use this one from Cooksons www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Butane-Lighter-Fuel-300ml-Un1950-prcode-999-958 x
Hi there! Thank you for such a helpful video....I'm a complete beginner, just starting out, learning from youtube only.... I have the Proxxon torch. As practice I'm making copper rings for now with silver solder (hard solder I think). But my soldering has been a disaster so far, I got it right 1 time only out of about 10 tries. Is it possible that this Proxxon torch has enough heat only for very small rings? I tried to solder some chunky ones (1 mm thick and about 1 cm wide copper) and it's just simply not working. I think everything else is OK (I clean them all, make sure they have a good joint etc.) Or could it be that maybe I'm using too much borax? (I make my own mixture from borax powder and water). Many thanks!
Hey lovely,
Thank you for your comment. We have a lot of beginner courses on our website that I think you will find super helpful.
You can find links to these here www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-making
We also have a facebook group where you can ask questions to a community of jewellers facebook.com/groups/jewellersacademy ❤
Super useful - ta 👍
Glad it was helpful! x
What is the difference between a soldering torch and iron. Do you need both?
You won't use a soldering iron in silversmithing. Soldering irons and the solder that they work with are used for other applications such as in electronics. Silver solder will only work with a torch or flame. Hope that helps! x
Love your accent, dear
😊 thank you
Omg this is exactly what I needed! Thank you x
You're so welcome! x
can I just use the kitchen torch? Thanks
Yes, a kitchen blow torch or creme brûlée torch is essentially the same thing x
@@JewellersAcademy Many thanks dear Jessica for confirming this. I have used my kitchen torch to complete your course 'make a silver & gold acorn necklace' and it went successfully! The acorn I made looks lovely and I really like it. Though there are some small scratches on the acorn surface and it is not that shining as what you made in the video. Think I need to learn more about polishing :)
Nice
Hope you found it useful!
How I buy this?
You can find jewellery suppliers from all around the world here www.jewellersacademy.com/jewellery-supplies Thanks for watching!
How long does that small one Last on average ?
Hiya, it depends how often you use it. At the jewellery school where they are used daily we probably replace them once every 1-2 years. In my home workshop probably every 4 years or so. Jess
@@JewellersAcademy I mean the gas , how often do u have to refill ?
@@revelationtrain7518 Ah ok, again it depends I would guess you would get about a 30 mins-1 hour of torch time from the small one but as most jewellery jobs are just a few minutes long that can be a few weeks. If you buy a bottle of universal lighter refill that will keep you going for quite a few refills of the full torch too.
@@JewellersAcademy okay , God bless u
Hi 👋 would it be ok to use the oxyturbo turbo 90 set which is a wielding set and not really for jewellery but as I already own one I thought I’d ask
We would definitely recommend using a hand torch x
@@JewellersAcademy ok thankyou
Super!!
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I use torch called "دمبوری(it's Persian)" it uses gasoline
Thanks for your comment lovely x
Why not an oxy-acetelyne and a jewellers torch. Once you get used to them, you will abandon butane.
Thanks for sharing your experience and advice. You're right, that is definitely another option x
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Glad you enjoyed the video x
Can you guy's please work on your sound most of your videos have very low volume
Thank you for your feed back! This video was filmed on a phone, so I appreciate the sound quality may not be as good as our professionally shot ones.
Hopefully it wasn't too hard to follow 🤞
Don't waste time and money on these inadequite butane torches,go OXYCON!!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing your tip! Definitely the way to go for anyone looking to take a step up x