Bishop Benjamin dube's Guest Prophet says "God NEEDS....."
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ai brother i follow your content... and i must say i tolerate you because you fall into the most typical trap of any bible reader... you mistaken the doctrine that you received when you became a 'Christian' for the truth of what the bible message is..... Christian are quick to accept doctrine and then get trained on how to defend doctrine... without taking time to read and understand what the message of the scriptures could be from their own understanding.... this is an easy mistake to make.. so I don't get condemn you for it...but now... you have gone too far....So you are saying God did not need anyone.... God did not need Moses... God did not need the people of Israel to keep their covenant with him....God did not need Jesus to die on our behalf... hey... God did not need the disciples and the early apostles to spread the "gospel"... hey God did not need all the copiest that made copies of the scriptures and letters .... God did not need Martin Luther to attempt the first translation of the bible from Latin to Germann .... Look brother, sometimes we need to divorce ourselves from doctrine.. to be able to investigate and find out what the scriptures are actually telling us about God.... You do a good job of telling people about the doctrine you subscribe to and how other churches and individuals are not aligned to the doctrine you subscribe to.... but please don't even for a second believe that the doctrine that you subscribe is the true message of the bible or even worse, that the doctrine you subscribe to is the same doctrine that the apostles at the foundation of the church subscribed to.... I am willing to engage you on your platform
i fully agree with you sir Rick and for as long as we don't read or understand the bible people will come and mislead us its so important to read the word of God.Shalom
Isaiah 6 vs 8
States the need of the messenger to be sent. When God said, " whom shall I send,who will go for us,"
Isaiah 59 vs 15 & 16
There is a same crisis where God said . God was displeased that there was no judgment. And he saw there was no man and no intercessor. He resort to stones which is nations because he need a man. After Moses was Aaron, after Samuel was David. Truly speaking man will always be needed.
Thank you Sir!!!!
I think we're getting this wrong.
The context of "need" here is not (to be) used in the sense that God cannot do without us, hence the idea that if we refuse to praise Him, HE WOULD RAISE STONES.
Nevertheless, in order for God to successfully establish His Kingdom here on earth, the physical world, HE NEEDS US! That is, in fact, the original reason for which He created us. He wants to have doninion over the physical world through physical beings like you and I.
But to use "need" in the sense that God cannot do without you is silly. God can replace anyone at anytime, and if humans are unavailable, He will use stones. That's why there's no reason to boast when God finds expression through you in manifesting His glory. It's a privilege, not a move of desperation (as in that He needs you in particular)
You will answer for every word you say. Bible does not need to be edited. Bible says God seeks for worshipers who will worship Him in spirit and in truth
God doesn't need anyone. Thank you once more Ricky
Context is important
Go listen to the song "We love You Jesus" by Benjamin Dube and Musa. Pay particular attention to the second part of the song. It is disturbing for a man like Benjamin Dube, who has been in ministry for over 20 years, to write like that. The lyrics read, "He loves me, yes He does, He needs me, yes He does." This is straight heresy.
@@Churchswatchman 😢 I will my brother🙏
But do you understand that a man is in partnership with God. He comes with Spirit and a man offers a body. That was his plan when he said let them rule. He can not rule for them. He obeys his word himself, that he has set it above his name. To need a man is not a man's will ,but his will. We cannot challenge it.
Partnership verses
Mark 16 vs 20
2 Corinthians 6 vs 1
Show me one partnership where one partner is unneeded
We are the ones who need God, not the other way around. God is not there to serve us...
Where is purpose there is a need.
@@motangmojalefa2937 God is self-sufficient: He is described as omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), and omnibenevolent (all-good). These attributes imply that He requires nothing from anyone or anything.
I believe he was implying that GOD needs physical beings to fulfil some physical manifestations of HIS power.
GOD used Mishack,Shadrack and Abednego to display HIS might and power through them.I believe this is what he is trying to imply but all in all GOD is sufficient in HIMSELF by HIMSELF.
We need to have a conference! Why do we only talk about ladies wearing tight skirts in church? When are we talking about men wearing tight pants?.
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Bathong sister 😅😅😂
Those pants look very uncomfortable.... I remember we spoke of this when watching that video of Muzi mthabela. He mentioned this
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The need he referring to is not the need of begging and authorities to do without him, but a relationship need. That is why he says those who worship God should worship in truth and in spirit. Already you may understand that this need a particular requirements to worship him so that you may fulfil the verse.
Thank you Ricky some of us here are new to your work but starting to have our eyes open God bless you
Awesome leadership. Let's continue growing
@@ChurchRealityCheck do you ever take personal questions if possible is there a platform you can be reached with questions
I watched that whole sermon and when I heard him say God needs us, I cringed and tried to find an explanation as to what he actually intended to say and I came up short. I'm sure he'll appreciate the correction, he's still learning.
He is preaching the home made gospel,
I'm hearing you.... But I turn to deviate with you in some of you interpretation. Don't you think you also might be missing or misinterpreting what he was trying to edify about? The "Need" part? If you think of it, God sometimes needs His vessels to accomplish some of his orders. For and example, God needed Jonah to accomplish the message through to Nineveh. Think about it even in broader terms. And think about the Moses event, Joshua, Ezekiel's Bones vision, etc.
I'm not too sure of what the preacher was trying to accomplish, but bear this in mind. In the points, were God needed His elected child to to do what He (God) wanted that particular child to do.
Think about it this way, as a parent have you never needed anything from your child to do something for you? (For it is the same with God)
This is when God assigns one of His-chosen to do something as it pleases Him. This doesn't disqualifies the fact that, it is God who is saying or doing a particular task in anyway.
This is also one of the verses among others were a need from God was "Mark 16:15". Why because there is a need of God to for the creation to know Him. And the assignment is assigned to us. Unless if I'm missing a point.
I however not agreeing with in terms of "The blood" teaching.
I was thinking the same too!
Mee to
He sounds like someone who listens to Lovy Elias! I heard him speak ko the centwins podcast and he gave me such bad vibes, he has pride!
This is the reason why I left the church. I couldn’t take it anymore. The pastor use to say “ God needs us more than we need Him”
That wasn't a pastor. That was a devil in disguise... Please find another church, don't forsake the gathering all together
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The church started well, it started to change After he preached prosperity gospel. Is not easy to find leaders who fear God.
Your not rude ricky these lukewarm Christians need the truth.
He was also taught , and he is teaching others,who will teach others, that is very very sad and dangerous, so we applaud you sir for speaking out against this kind of doctrine
We need God more than, it says without God we are nothing. God need us to believe in him, do his will and to come and reign with him in heaven. Jesus is our everything
One thing I had to learn is that don’t think you are that important in the kingdom of God. That when you are not there you think the kingdom of God suffers. God can use anybody, the Holy Spirit and His angels.
The Holy Spirit is God.
When you're deep in lies it's difficult to see the line that divides between truth and lies.
Hayi no God can never need us...how can God create me and then need me 🤔 We need to read the word of God for ourselves nje simple!
How can God need His creation. The creation needs its creator 🙌 YHW. God uses his creations when it avails itself to Him.
God is All Powerful,All Knowing,All Mighty.
God needs available vessels yes. He is right , God uses a man to function and show that he is God. If God did not need a man , he wouldn't have continued to raise Apostles and Pastors in his Kingdom.
God sought for a man. And God is not afraid to be vulnerable to ask men to partner with him in order to get the job of the Kingdom done.
Do not live to criticise, ask for the Holy spirit to first understand what this pastor was saying.
I need God He does not need me.
Why did he created you if you are not needed?
I wish one day to share my mind with you concerning the Morden day preachers and believers on your platform 😭😭 you’re working brother
thank you for bringing these scammers to light,
STUDY THE WORD OF GOD❗️❗️❗️ FOR YOURSELF, PEOPLE👉📖
Matthew 7:15-...
Matthew 24:4
2TYMOTHY4:3-4,
Jeremiah17:5-...
Another big concern is the number of bazalwane who are agreeing to this.
Not even one person stood up to oppose this??
What is there to oppose really???? God needs us otherwise we will not be here!!!! Thats why salvation is a personal relationship between God and men. Who are we to judge the preaching of the pastor and judge the congregation!!!
sometimes leave them to continue,lets hear where he is getting to,GOD needs everyon,but it doesnt mean he cant live without us .
Ooh no God has all He needs, He needs no one
Yes God is sufficient in Himself. He can live without the created order and be content as God
I'VE HEARD THIS STATEMENT MANY TIMES 😮 AND IT'S ALWAYS IN THESE BIG CHURCHES MAY GOD HAVE MERCY UPON US 🙏 AND ITS HEARTBREAKING 💔 TO HEAR ABAZALWANE SAYING OH YES/ AMEN IN AGREEMENT 😮
Luke 19 -40:44
Shows how powerful God is...
Ricky.. before I say anything I just want to say I believe that God doesn't need anything or anyone.
In what this man said, I believe the error is assuming God needs us.. for He clearly doesn't.
When it comes to spirits saying it is illegal for them to dwell in earth, I stand to be corrected, but I believe it is true.. I'm taking it from Jesus saying anyone who did not enter the sheepfold through the gate is a thief, which I interpret to mean the devil who did not come through birth into the world is operating in the world illegally. That's why I don't believe the devil can have a legal right to do anything to anyone whether or not they are in sin. Everything the devil does is illegal that's why we have the authority in the name of Jesus Christ to rebuke him.. I stand to be corrected on this.
As for the blood, I believe we conquered the devil through the blood in the sense that as an accuser, he could not accuse us because we are blood washed.. not that we call on the blood or invoke the blood against the devil and his demons. There isn't a record of scripture where the Apostles or disciples at large ever called on the blood of Jesus to either cast out devils or for protection. In fact we hear them say "in your name even demons are subject to us" that's when Jesus said he saw the devil fall.. but it was in His name that the demons were subjected to the authority of Christ bestowed on the disciples. So we don't call upon the blood. Just like we don't call upon the word of our testimony. But when the devil tries to attack our faith, we testify like David, "I killed a lion and a bear, what is this uncircumcised philistine?" I think that's how our word of testimony comes in.. we disarm the devil by declaring what God has done in our lives.. so when he wants us to feel liker sinners we say "No No No No No! His blood cleansed us from all unrighteousness.... "
I also think the blood of sacrifice does protect us from God's wrath against sin. Because a sinning soul is the soul that shall die, (seeing that the life of every creature is in the blood, I would equate death with the spilling of blood) so the innocent blood of Jesus was spilled in the place of my own blood. So where I was supposed to die because of Sin His blood became a sacrifice and my sin was punished in Him.. so He has atoned for me through His blood so that there remains no more condemnation for me being in Christ...
So I do think the blood protects us against the penalty of Sin which is the wrath of God.. and we defeated the devil not by calling on the blood but by the testimony of the atonement we have in the blood..
I don't believe we must cover our houses and cars and roads with the blood... No I don't see scripture directing us that way...
You're right. I also thought so!
Thank you for this response, I've been pleading the blood of Jesus wrongly, monkey see monkey do type of situation, I did suspect there was an error in what I was doing, you've just given clarity
Thank you Sir Rick 💯
true brother Ricky God can never need anything and anyone anyone for any reason we are the one's who need God hence we Pray
I honestly don’t know what to think of Benjamin Dube.
These speakers wants to leave an impression that they are good presenters instead of reading the scripture as is to the congregation, 2 Timothy 4 verse 3 speaks about such people, thank you Ricky for helping us to concentrate on what the preacher is actually saying.
Pray for him for the young prophet to grow in the word.
Please can u let the video play before u explain, then we can all be at the same page
The guy is OFF now he's talking about Blood protecting u from who, God😢😢😢‼️
DEAR LORD JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH. OF NAZARETH.WE LOVE YOU ! PLEASE FORGIVE US OUR SINCE HEAL US AND OUR LORD!
God was there before the existence of time and Space. And now He needs me?? He loves me, cares for me, protects me. Needs me?? Nope.. I know I need Him more that I need air to breathe
I didnt hear a thing ....i was wortied about his pants .....how about those who were infront of him 😂😂😂😂 😮😮 m holding my breath on his behalf coz wow his pants are too tight i thought they would get torn any moment 🙆🏾eish ....
😂😂😂😂finish me again😂😂😂
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I agree ,the suit is 1st problem
Ricky pls help me. There is a scripture that says. His eyes( God) was moving forward and backward looking for a man. Why was He looking for man?
God seeks men and not "Need" man.
Ok before the foundation of the world we were in God s mind. What was the reason for creating us if He didn't need us ?
he created all before we were, he doesn’t need us we do, God wants us for him that why we have a free will , we can chose him or live anyhow, You can not separate Jesus from his blood therefore we can call on it
The truth is that you can never qualify because we are sinners and the blood of Jesus is the one that saves us
Abo Benjamin are just professional singers yazi. To look to them as examples for Christianity I'd cray
I miss the old preachers of the real Gospel at home, this newbie’s are confused brother Ricky,they are amateurs in Christ
Its should have been terrifying to the church when he said "God needs you to live" heeeeey.... noways ....
Hey Ricky,
I still would recommend that you allow the clip in question to play in full then start commentary after. It becomes hard to follow when you play bit and comment
He does it so that he can play only the convenient parts to judge. He will never play a whole sermon!
Good work maan🎉
Ricky i hear your angle. Pls give me clarity on what God was looking for in the book Jeremia 1 when He ask whom shall i sent?
"The blood of Jesus protects us against/from God", was also said by Lovy Elias. Another herrecy capital. 😂
I like how you do justice according to the scriptures in your explanation ❤ emotions won't help but a sound doctrine will🎉
I was tought that herecy back in the days but thank God. Ricky i totally agree with you.
Lol these guys use grammar to twist words and present them very sounding and pleasing to their ears 👂 and put them in an unending mood to constantly looking for what’s not lost. Thank you for your analysis 🧐 ❤🫡🫡.
This is what you call HIGH SOUNDING NONSENSE😂😂.Thank you for this comment
"it is illegal for the spirit to dwell in the body" Those are the teachings by Myles Munroe..............Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.........
It’s not about for how long someone has walked with the Lord,be careful of discouraging those that Jesus just chose…
God is rapidly teaching his new Children His Word and the older Christians are mocking them as they feel they know nothing,Gods ways are higher than ours,how He works in us is different.
Very dangerous judgemental spirit Ricky operates under!!!
All these young prophet's mxm they always do this thing's,this young prophet's need discipline,all of them are like him
I first heard this teaching about the spirit being illegal on earth without the body from one of Dr Myles Munroe’s teaching
Psalm 135:66The LORD does whatever pleases him throughout all heaven and earth, and on the seas and in their depths.
Sometimes I think these so called "preachers" that the The LORD said would come don't have an idea who God is... They think they know Him, but always prove that they don't... The Omnipotent God, the Omniscient God, the Omnipresent God does not need anything or anyone for that matter, He existed before all things and He lives forever and ever, Amen. This man centred doctrine is a problem... They decieve people with eloquence and fancy speech instead of preaching the word of God. Good video my brother!
We need God, He doesn't need us.
No wonder God said Judgement wil start Ka leaders...its scary we need to be careful what we preach# to be safe we need to just preach the word through leadership of the Holy Spirit only
please be patient with them . Just keep on teaching these things one day they will understand the bible as you do. This is a spiritual war and schemes of devil, Eph 6 v 11... God bless you for a nice guidance. Thank you
if we do not speak the word of God over our lifes, over the situations we face the word(God) can not move and bring the change that we nead in our lives.
Amen brother Ricky! We are not baby Christians to be fed nestum by an infant in Christ. Once he said he’s spiritual mentor is Benjamin Dube I knew something is not make sure.
Maybe is pronouncement ya English Ricky. we need God more than anything, he died for us so that we can be saved, no man died for us. and also, thanks Ricky for your teaching.
On the other hand Rick my brother spiritually we can study and read the same scripture but get a different revelation from it,a part from the direct reading at hand.Its just more about the spiritual than the physical which is that which we read but rather more importantly is what we get in the spirit Mr Rick
John3v16 John10v10 John10v30 Acts2v21 1john4v4 exoda20 entire chapter hosea4v6 Matthew 6v33 John14v6 Revelation 12v11 AMEN !
How did God create the entire world without us? We were the last ones. This guy will find himself in hell with this message.
So true
Very true he even created the animals first before is😂
I saw this a week ago and all i thought about was #ChurchRealityCheck but I didn’t know how to let Rickie alert. I’m glad you touched on it
I first heard this doctrine of God not being able to do things without man from Myles Monroe, (maybe i took what he said out of context). I was a baby Christian then so, i became cautious of preachers from that time. No matter how knowledgable a man is always go to the scripture to verify what they are teaching.
A BIG YEBO FROM BISHOP BANJAMIN DUBE
Ultimately we are being saved from God's wrath... But I agree the broer is not sound 🤷
He is from Botswana 🇧🇼
False doctrine,bad theology,, false gospel preached by wolves
Thank you Ricky ,we need God Gid doesn't need us
This young man was on centwitz podcast
Blood of Jesus protect against God??? My goodness and someone is like "yaah" 😭😭
Imagine God is now painted as our enemy
Since genesis God has always looked for a man on this earth to deliver his people,
That He is doing for us, not for Him. We need God, God doesn't need us at all! He uses us so that we can know and believe that He exists!
Something is off yaz bazalwane......this father n son relationship is not make sure, khona into e off.....i don't wanna say much kodwa ayi cha, something ain't right
i might be mistaken but i've seen him on centtwins and his definitely still growing and hopefully maturing in the Spirit. Just like you said in your opening, a baby can't be given the position of an elder 1Timothy 3:6
The prophet needs theology studies he is confused.
What scripture was he preaching about?
We need. God God does not have a need.
And we welcome those who got borned again last week or today,they just have to step aside a lil bit on this one
Man of GOD think all that he means is that wasn't it for JESUS CHRIST who died for us leaving a possibility of repentance towards any sin at all times.Now GOD in us sees people that can always repent at anytime and all that is because of the blood of CHRIST how so because JESUS left us a example of how sin is to be defeated to completeness Ricky🙏😂🙏
Thank you Ricky for exposing these so called profets
Ricky what bible version are you using?
Notification gang 🎉
Y are preachers not opening the bibel and reading it, and preaching on it😢 eish nee maan I'm not make sure...people of God please read your bibels and stay away from preachers who dont use the bibel.
He's definitely from Botswana
Eyoo sense is not sensing 😂😂 there thanks leadership from teaching as🙏🙏
God is forever faithful.. He won't do nothing on earth without involving man.. He gave man an authority over earth.. He doesn't need a man if man refuses to say yes to him.. It mean he can get other mean of fulfilling what He needs to do.. My God cannot break His covenant from His word till date..You cannot compare God with the devil,(when you say devil has been cast down here on earth? What good can you expect from the devil... He's is operating illegally so here on earth.. The devil you are talking about he need to use man to confuse other man.. This logic the devil understands better... My God does not need a man who doesn't need God.. My God can do anything he pleases Yes.. Okay now.. On the Blood of Jesus issue. You are right Ricky.. We conquer the devil with the blood of Jesus and the words of our testimonies.. The blood continues to defeat the devils even todate..
Classic Myles Munroe teachings😅😅
God is God of intent. He created you wonderfully and fearfully. Why must he waste time on you if he doesn't need you. Where wiĺl he dwell if there is no man as we are his temple.
I recommend a good seminary/ bible college before people claim titles and jump on pulpits to teach.
That won't help because most of these guys went through that.
They do not fear God. God in all his glory, the creator of the heavens and the earth needs no man. Glory be to God!
1st to comment and like 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Danko leadership
Eziflag ziyandiphazamisa nazo eish BabBenj hayi naye🙇🏾
From which verse??
Go listen to the song "We love You Jesus" by Benjamin Dube and Musa. Pay particular attention to the second part of the song. It is disturbing for a man like Benjamin Dube, who has been in ministry for over 20 years, to write like that. The lyrics read, "He loves me, yes He does, He needs me, yes He does." This is straight heresy.
I know but it's not " He needs me"
But its " He leads me"
I thought the same too🤪😂😭