Personally, I would be terribly afraid to ride on the roof of an elevator, and that without the glass, there is that glass and that speed. Respect for something like that.
That place became our personal private abandoned tower. We had the entire tower to ourselves. It was a brilliant place to stay for free. Also, we decided to rename the tower to "The Maddison (Benidorm edition)"
I don't like those rusty cables. A farmer in Australia thought he was onto something getting used lift cables to make his cattle yards. There was a big problem after a few months they just snapped when the bulls and cows lent up onto them...
I have never heard of people buying used lift cables. Having a think about what you said. Lets say a lift weighs 1000kg and has a capacity of 1000kg. Thats 2000kg. The lift would also need a lot of tolerance for the acceleration forces and other unexpected forces (e.g. someone jumping in the lift). So lets say the total expected force is 4000kg. This is then divided by 6 lift cables. Each cable takes a force of 666kg. After searching online for the weight of a cow, apparently a bull weighs 1100kg and a female weights 750 kg. So this would be more than the cables are designed for.
It should do, but I do not know if it can for long term. Being able to support a weight, and being able to operate in service long term while supporting the weight are 2 separate things. Also in my previous comment I feel that I had greatly underestimated the forces the cables would have to support. If the weight of the loaded lift car is 2000kg, then the supported load could get to many times more than this. Think how much force there is on an emergency stop. I would say maybe 5 times the weight. That would be 10000kg / 6 which is 1667kg. A cow wouldn't break this, but multiple cows could. Also, it could be to do with the cows putting sideways force of the cables, when the cables are only designed for suspended force.
@@benolifts and if the Bull (they can get very angry in the yards) pushes or stands on a single cable which moves out by say 20 degrees the force on the cable is multiplied by 1/sin 20 which is about 3.
@@benolifts there are a few but they are not common. Mainly in older buildings. Here in the USA people are obsessed with energy efficiency and since elevator doors are not weather sealed you won’t find shaftless lifts except in older buildings such as the Hilton in Atlanta.
In Atlanta there is a Westinghouse that’s shaftless 4 m/s 30 floors. Hilton downtown is the location. These are outdoor and there are 2 internal shaftless lifts in the atrium.
Marriott and Hyatt also have internal shaftless lifts. And the Westin has the big tube Express between the lobby and the restaurant on the roof. 73 floors, straight up.
Yeah, that first one doesn't look like it should be in service. Those orange bridges and balconies look lovely. Then there's the orange lift, and right at the end, an orange sofa!
This statement is based on UK law. Nothing in this video is illegal if done in the UK. As for Spain, I don't know all the laws of every country I visit. What I do know is that Spain does not care. Everyone is very relaxed in Benidorm. I have been seen on shaftless lifts a few times and everyone just waves at me. If security saw me they wouldn't be happy, but they would just want me out of their building. It wouldn't go any further than this. As for the legal side of things. I do not believe that this is illegal in Spain, but I don't know for certain. If you are caught by police doing this stuff you have to pay a fine for the call out (in other words for wasting police time). But lets put things into perspective here. Once again on the stupid night club street in Benidorm I had someone trying to grab my bag while making a distraction. While these people usually back off when they realize you are not an easy drunk to target, it is still very scary. There were various bisness owners and security guards for the clubs that would have seen this and they did not care. People who work on this street would see this on a daily basis and know exactly what is going on and they dont report the crime (they probably get a small cut of any money they manage to snatch to keep them quiet). Also the police are well aware of what happens in this street. If the police can not be bothered to stop actual crimes, then they are not going to go out of their way to care about someone standing on top of a lift.
@@benolifts fyi its not legal in spain to enter any machine room or service only part of any installation, and for technicians is illegal to enter them without the proper security measures
@@theGamerzx3 But how illegal is it. From what I have heard, on the very rare occasion that the police actually bother to come out for trespass (which is usually if someone is free climbing the outside of the building), the person just gets a fine for the call out. Also is it illegal for people to make distractions and then snatch your bag and run? This has been going on for years, and the people doing it make no attempts to hide what they are doing. And from what I heard, if you go to the police about it they couldn't care less.
@@LachieVidsTransportVlogs A generic company would have installed their buttons and maybe some other parts from them. The lift itself is most likely a custom build. It is unusual that a generic company would have done a shaftless, but I am guessing demand for them is high in Spain, so they are not as uncommon as other places
@@benolifts Yeah that makes sense, have you ever personally seen a Schindler with a Ziehl Abegg ZAdyn4 VF? I’ve heard of them but never seen one, I don’t know If Ziehl Abegg makes good products, but I do like the sound their VF’s make.
Nobody could give permission to surf a shaftless lift by standing onto top of the rain shield without a harness and operating in normal at full speed. It is not a safe activity, and nobody could take on the liability to authorize this.
10:00 when Beno says it is unsafe it must be dangerous!
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You got more guts than I do. After watching the shaftless elevator scenes in "The Towering Inferno" (1974), there's no way I would try this.
Personally, I would be terribly afraid to ride on the roof of an elevator, and that without the glass, there is that glass and that speed. Respect for something like that.
How do you not get caught doing this, ive been caught inside a shaft few times where i thought no one could see
How did you get caught? Nobody ever notices when I am in a lift shaft
@@benolifts i think because i had it on inspection at first and conciege noticed
I thought you would of revised the 36 floor orona in Don Jorge apartments?
That place became our personal private abandoned tower. We had the entire tower to ourselves. It was a brilliant place to stay for free.
Also, we decided to rename the tower to "The Maddison (Benidorm edition)"
@@benolifts I actually stayed there back in 2018 and I went in the glass orona before I started to surf lifts
For a brief moment i thought you were going to say the destination dispatch shaft-less lift was in a set of 1
Big up! Welcome to Benidorm, the home of shitty unqualified lift engineers! 👍
Shitty unqualified lift engineers?
@@benolifts Spain = 0 health and safety! Do what the fuck you want to do!
How do you open the lift door from the shaft? Do you just move the door rollers?
Yes
I don't like those rusty cables. A farmer in Australia thought he was onto something getting used lift cables to make his cattle yards. There was a big problem after a few months they just snapped when the bulls and cows lent up onto them...
I have never heard of people buying used lift cables.
Having a think about what you said. Lets say a lift weighs 1000kg and has a capacity of 1000kg. Thats 2000kg. The lift would also need a lot of tolerance for the acceleration forces and other unexpected forces (e.g. someone jumping in the lift). So lets say the total expected force is 4000kg. This is then divided by 6 lift cables. Each cable takes a force of 666kg. After searching online for the weight of a cow, apparently a bull weighs 1100kg and a female weights 750 kg. So this would be more than the cables are designed for.
@@benolifts Shouldn't each cable alone be able to hold the entire weight of the lift?
It should do, but I do not know if it can for long term. Being able to support a weight, and being able to operate in service long term while supporting the weight are 2 separate things. Also in my previous comment I feel that I had greatly underestimated the forces the cables would have to support. If the weight of the loaded lift car is 2000kg, then the supported load could get to many times more than this. Think how much force there is on an emergency stop. I would say maybe 5 times the weight. That would be 10000kg / 6 which is 1667kg. A cow wouldn't break this, but multiple cows could. Also, it could be to do with the cows putting sideways force of the cables, when the cables are only designed for suspended force.
@@benolifts and if the Bull (they can get very angry in the yards) pushes or stands on a single cable which moves out by say 20 degrees the force on the cable is multiplied by 1/sin 20 which is about 3.
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Wow that wind is so strong. Benidorm is the best place for a good holiday.
Benidorm is an amazing place. There is nowhere else in the world quite like it.
👍😁
Lara Croft does this in Tomb Raider Legend...She doesn't just surf a shaftless, but she surfed the cable 🤣🤣😂😂
Shaftless lifts and crane climbs are the two dumbest but most exhilarating things you do! Thank you Beno!
beno do you prefer these or the orona?
this gives me flashbacks to that orona
Yep
@Beno. When did you start with this thing about the elevators.
2007
These are awesome although I would be too scared to get on top of any of these.
These are EPIC
Do you get lifts like this in the USA?
@@benolifts there are a few but they are not common. Mainly in older buildings. Here in the USA people are obsessed with energy efficiency and since elevator doors are not weather sealed you won’t find shaftless lifts except in older buildings such as the Hilton in Atlanta.
In Atlanta there is a Westinghouse that’s shaftless 4 m/s 30 floors. Hilton downtown is the location. These are outdoor and there are 2 internal shaftless lifts in the atrium.
Marriott and Hyatt also have internal shaftless lifts.
And the Westin has the big tube Express between the lobby and the restaurant on the roof. 73 floors, straight up.
Yeah, that first one doesn't look like it should be in service. Those orange bridges and balconies look lovely. Then there's the orange lift, and right at the end, an orange sofa!
Vertigo tastic as always! 😎👍
Wow quite a nice set of lifts and quite a nice holiday overall
Love the sound that 5500 doors make, is it a VF sound or gear sound?
probably a gear sound
@@benolifts I see, it still sounds so cool.
i've been watching since 2016!
On minute 7:00 the lift is very slow.
Meaning of the word Surfeit. 1, an unexpected glut or high volume of something. 2, what Beno will do with a lift, given half a chance.
hey austin this is guys
Hey guys, this is a shaftless lift.
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Great video
Thanks
En Benidorm hay algunos Ascensores de Orona. ¡Esto es perfecto!
Is there anything you hold onto when you’re surfing a lift outside like this?
On the 2:1 shaftless lifts there is nothing to hold onto
@@benolifts oh wow, sounds quite scary
I had to crouch down on the Gran Bali hotel lift as the wind kept hitting me and I felt quite exposed 160 meters high with nothing to hold.
@@benolifts When did you start with this thing about the elevators.
In 2007
now imagine that in the winter when the top is covered in ice and slippery
I noticed in your channel description it said this was legal, how exactly?
This statement is based on UK law. Nothing in this video is illegal if done in the UK. As for Spain, I don't know all the laws of every country I visit. What I do know is that Spain does not care. Everyone is very relaxed in Benidorm. I have been seen on shaftless lifts a few times and everyone just waves at me. If security saw me they wouldn't be happy, but they would just want me out of their building. It wouldn't go any further than this. As for the legal side of things. I do not believe that this is illegal in Spain, but I don't know for certain. If you are caught by police doing this stuff you have to pay a fine for the call out (in other words for wasting police time). But lets put things into perspective here. Once again on the stupid night club street in Benidorm I had someone trying to grab my bag while making a distraction. While these people usually back off when they realize you are not an easy drunk to target, it is still very scary. There were various bisness owners and security guards for the clubs that would have seen this and they did not care. People who work on this street would see this on a daily basis and know exactly what is going on and they dont report the crime (they probably get a small cut of any money they manage to snatch to keep them quiet). Also the police are well aware of what happens in this street. If the police can not be bothered to stop actual crimes, then they are not going to go out of their way to care about someone standing on top of a lift.
Fair enough but I am from the UK and I can't believe it is legal here
@@benolifts fyi its not legal in spain to enter any machine room or service only part of any installation, and for technicians is illegal to enter them without the proper security measures
@@theGamerzx3 But how illegal is it. From what I have heard, on the very rare occasion that the police actually bother to come out for trespass (which is usually if someone is free climbing the outside of the building), the person just gets a fine for the call out.
Also is it illegal for people to make distractions and then snatch your bag and run? This has been going on for years, and the people doing it make no attempts to hide what they are doing. And from what I heard, if you go to the police about it they couldn't care less.
@@benolifts well, enought illegal to get detained and sleep on the jail at least 1 night, the other thing is the police officers competence.
That cable will snap eventually
Cheap flight adventure to Benidorm coming soon ?
I have already done a series of 4 videos with that title. I need a new title for this trip.
I've shited on my underwears just because this video, how do you not scare???
Looks like it's going to break down anytime
Spanish lifts are always like that
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That glass Spanish generic would be a MP
I doubt MP could even dream of making a shaftless lift
@@benolifts Has the MP Compact (TB) button type, so unless someone ripped them off I don’t know
@@LachieVidsTransportVlogs A generic company would have installed their buttons and maybe some other parts from them. The lift itself is most likely a custom build. It is unusual that a generic company would have done a shaftless, but I am guessing demand for them is high in Spain, so they are not as uncommon as other places
@@benolifts Yeah that makes sense, have you ever personally seen a Schindler with a Ziehl Abegg ZAdyn4 VF? I’ve heard of them but never seen one, I don’t know If Ziehl Abegg makes good products, but I do like the sound their VF’s make.
Surfing a Shaftless lift is kinda scary anyway
try to get the 2 otises running
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Mate there is something wrong with you wanting to do this 🤣🤣🤣 do you get permission to do this?
Nobody could give permission to surf a shaftless lift by standing onto top of the rain shield without a harness and operating in normal at full speed. It is not a safe activity, and nobody could take on the liability to authorize this.
Benodorm, surely? 😆
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