I think its awesome, final mix was bad but the plug in is definitely worth it if you take your time mixing and working with the results later, there's a reason its a shy $50 away from being a $400 plug in. Real good.
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for your overview of these plugins.. really helpful. Do they integrate well with Logic Pro 9? I'm doing hard rock and metal using Addictive Drums for all percussion.. thoughts?
It's a cool plug in. Dunno about using it in Re Mic Mode to much though, I mean, You'll never get rid of the tone of the room in which the instruments where actually recorded in. Maybe Very Close Mic + A very Dead Room - And even then, its still gonna sound like the actual room, Its just gonna blend with the tone, and that can lead to phase issues, so you'd definitely have to tweak it to get it right! Love the knowledge aspect of the Plug. That alone can be worth it!
Most people spend ages mixing in the box - but trying to get that studio produced sound - i.e. getting the recording right at the source - that's what this plugin allows you to achieve. obviously this is a quick demo - the placement options are endless - if the plugin had the option to add your own mic's or more mic's to the config that would be mind blowing, for example setting up a decca tree, or be able to move the mic's around in the room once they are placed.
This plugin is amazing - the swiss army knife for tracking instruments - where else could you find this studio in a box with that choice of mic's to use and flexibility of placement. The mic's combined alone cost about £200, 000 - Couple that with their Studer emulation. Altiverb gives you room sounds - but not the inner workings of one of the greatest studio's on the planet with the engineering know how.
If anything this plug will help bands who are struggling with getting a good drum sound or guitar sound etc. To be able to re-mic what has already been recorded and in turn significantly improve the source can only be seen as a life saver - provided the performance is good and something has come crashing down in the background.
On drums and on guitar it sounded very round, but the processed piano sounds like a Yamaha PSR portable keyboard 20 years ago...funny. "lets your Steinway sounds like an portable keyboard plugin"
Great review... makes me want this plug badly! However, is it just me, or when you bring in the other drum tracks, can I hear a slight latency/delay? "Doesn't sound as good as a D-Verb through Dr. Dre Hedphones.... Bless you my friend"! Classic!!!
What uad interface and things are you using to use all those plugins together? Please! I really need to know to see what I need to purchase! Thanks man
FWIW I use a UAD satellite Quad and have a different brand interface. Most UAD interfaces only have two DSPs, for a full mix I think you'll want a quad or you'll probably have to mix down or record with the plug-ins getting burned to track to save processing power later on. So if you're happy with your interface you might consider a quad. I got a deal on an open box satellite for a decent price, the one I bought came with three bonus plugins of your choice. For me, my top three UAD plugins are ocean way, distressor and Ampex but there are are a lot of opinions about the most popular plug-ins. Oh and also the Ampeg plugins are essential to my bass tracks.
I think in reverb mode it would be quite cool but the remic mode doesn't seem to make sense on those sources, why would u emulate a mic when you have miked the guitar yourself. I think I would use a combination of dry and room sounds maybe use remic mode but with a wet dry mix... On drums where you don't have room mics its a cool idea though but using far mics instead of super close mics sounds muddy.
Well during first few intro. minutes of this test, i loved it on solo drums, this is the first plugin that improved sound , no hype in this statement because i dont own UAD platform yet. Tho, this plug-in is not set-and-forget, its requires few tweaking, near the end of this video he changed the sound of OWS alot and made instrumentals buried deep into a mix unlike in the first few moments where the sound was punchy yet full of natural early-reflections....
I've since DLed the demo....ran my own test...it's a sweet creamy 3D room but a bit of a Johnny one note (or 2 if you count the two rooms) No way do I think a $350 price tag is justified....
But really, I could only really see myself using this plugin as a reverb, not as a "re mic" plug in. And i have plenty of reverbs to try before I would reach to this one. Cool idea though.
why do the bypassed versions always sound best? Am I just crazy? It could well be..I used to smoke a lot of dope and listen to Genesis and figure it'll be another 10 years before computers are worth a damn. Of course, by then it'll be too late
Mike Walker I partly agree with you there. I don't think that the final mix at the end sound very good, there's far too much room in it. And the CAB setting that is used on the guitar is better used with an amp sim with the cab simulation tuned off. It just sound muddy with tracks that already have cabs on them, there are better micing options for that.But in general I think it's a great sounding plugin. It can really give a nice room sound to dry tracks.
Let's get to the truth of things… What is this plugin about? Saving money. Since when is saving money related to achieving better sound? So what else is there to talk about.
WTF, whatever you put through Ocean Way starts sounding out of phase, nasal and scooped. How can anybody find this an improvement over the original source? What was a once punchy track becomes a diluted horribly out of phase track.
I completely agree. It's VERY easy to get a bad sound out of this plugin, which is why I almost wrote it off when I first activated the demo. However, I'm very glad I decided to give it another chance. The remic mode is indispensable for electric guitars, as is the reverb mode for drums. The trick with remic is to mute the mid and far mics and first focus on shaping the near mic. You have to get the near mic really close to the source, which makes sense. If you were close miking a guitar cab, even 1 foot would be too far away to place your 57. In a real world setting, it would be as close as you could physically get it! Once that near mic is sounding good, then I dial in just one other room mic and place it where the phase relation is the strongest. That's why they include that phase button. The main downfall of this plugin is that it's so accurate. It's emulating acoustics and multiple mics in a room, which means you will run into major phase issues if you don't setup those mics correctly. And it's very easy to set them up incorrectly. I think I'll be making a tutorial about this sometime soon.
@@JayCrafton I agree that OW makes you setup the mics correctly in the room representation. It takes a little time, but it's so worth the effort. Great, positive response! Thank you.
deceiver Every UA plug-in that I own is the best at what it does, there’s no competition or even comparison. Unfortunately , I am disappointed because this reverb however accurate it may be is not inspirational to my own taste. In saying that it could be exactly what you are looking for in a plug in!
Playing the mix of the tracks without any processing sounds a lot better, than with the plugin. It kills all mids of the guitar and leaves a muddy and crippled sound. Piano sound gets destroyed, too. And what it does with the drums is nice, but basically that's just because of the added room. In the mix with this plugin, the instruments do not fit together. It does not sound, as if they were being recorded in the same room. The complete opposite is the case. Horrific plugin, from this display.
7 years later and this thing still feels ahead of its time to me. Brilliant plugin.
"D-verb through a pair of DR Dre headphones" deserves additional mention in comments award of excellence. Superb demo thanks.
😂
Thanks for showing this. Excellent demonstration. Your drum recording sounds very nice.
11 years Later😊
Still Great
man that sounds good on the trem guitar! so wide! i'm tempted to buy this. thanks for making the video.
I love this plug with drums, organ, and guitars. It takes all those tracks and unifies them into a cohesive sound.
I think its awesome, final mix was bad but the plug in is definitely worth it if you take your time mixing and working with the results later, there's a reason its a shy $50 away from being a $400 plug in. Real good.
You know! I think I could really use this, it sounds great!!
Nice Job Russ! Drink up my friend. Great track Great plugin. Keep up the good work!
ahhhh. must. purchase.
I love this demo, kinda long but can we get this demo on Logic Pro X?
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for your overview of these plugins.. really helpful. Do they integrate well with Logic Pro 9? I'm doing hard rock and metal using Addictive Drums for all percussion.. thoughts?
It's a cool plug in. Dunno about using it in Re Mic Mode to much though, I mean, You'll never get rid of the tone of the room in which the instruments where actually recorded in. Maybe Very Close Mic + A very Dead Room - And even then, its still gonna sound like the actual room, Its just gonna blend with the tone, and that can lead to phase issues, so you'd definitely have to tweak it to get it right!
Love the knowledge aspect of the Plug. That alone can be worth it!
You guys, it's not "destroying" anything. It's a convolution modeling/reverb plug-in, and companies like Audio Ease have been doing this for years.
the u-67s certainly brought those chirping birds forward in the mix.
Impressive. This is the "make stuff sound real" plugin.
Nice guitar tone - what is the amp/guitar setup?
sounds killer!
Most people spend ages mixing in the box - but trying to get that studio produced sound - i.e. getting the recording right at the source - that's what this plugin allows you to achieve. obviously this is a quick demo - the placement options are endless - if the plugin had the option to add your own mic's or more mic's to the config that would be mind blowing, for example setting up a decca tree, or be able to move the mic's around in the room once they are placed.
This plugin is amazing - the swiss army knife for tracking instruments - where else could you find this studio in a box with that choice of mic's to use and flexibility of placement. The mic's combined alone cost about £200, 000 - Couple that with their Studer emulation. Altiverb gives you room sounds - but not the inner workings of one of the greatest studio's on the planet with the engineering know how.
This plugin is amazing..
It would be cool to have a compare b/t Ocean Way and Lexicon 224
They work completely different algorithmically, so it wouldnt be a fair comparison. They are both amazing in their own rights.
If anything this plug will help bands who are struggling with getting a good drum sound or guitar sound etc. To be able to re-mic what has already been recorded and in turn significantly improve the source can only be seen as a life saver - provided the performance is good and something has come crashing down in the background.
Very cool vid
On drums and on guitar it sounded very round, but the processed piano sounds like a Yamaha PSR portable keyboard 20 years ago...funny.
"lets your Steinway sounds like an portable keyboard plugin"
Great review... makes me want this plug badly! However, is it just me, or when you bring in the other drum tracks, can I hear a slight latency/delay? "Doesn't sound as good as a D-Verb through Dr. Dre Hedphones.... Bless you my friend"! Classic!!!
Hello guys do you have a review for moogerfooger bomb factory plugin bundle?
Regards,
Luis
any love for AU ?
I don't think its destroying what music making is about. I think it gives people the ability to get creative!
What uad interface and things are you using to use all those plugins together? Please! I really need to know to see what I need to purchase! Thanks man
FWIW I use a UAD satellite Quad and have a different brand interface. Most UAD interfaces only have two DSPs, for a full mix I think you'll want a quad or you'll probably have to mix down or record with the plug-ins getting burned to track to save processing power later on. So if you're happy with your interface you might consider a quad. I got a deal on an open box satellite for a decent price, the one I bought came with three bonus plugins of your choice. For me, my top three UAD plugins are ocean way, distressor and Ampex but there are are a lot of opinions about the most popular plug-ins. Oh and also the Ampeg plugins are essential to my bass tracks.
I think in reverb mode it would be quite cool but the remic mode doesn't seem to make sense on those sources, why would u emulate a mic when you have miked the guitar yourself. I think I would use a combination of dry and room sounds maybe use remic mode but with a wet dry mix... On drums where you don't have room mics its a cool idea though but using far mics instead of super close mics sounds muddy.
Well during first few intro. minutes of this test, i loved it on solo drums, this is the first plugin that improved sound , no hype in this statement because i dont own UAD platform yet. Tho, this plug-in is not set-and-forget, its requires few tweaking, near the end of this video he changed the sound of OWS alot and made instrumentals buried deep into a mix unlike in the first few moments where the sound was punchy yet full of natural early-reflections....
Super LOL at the comment "D Verb through a pair or Dr Dre Headphones" hahaha brilliant!
another eq wow!
Hahahahahahaha same reason everyone is laughing - bless you my friend
so basically this is a convolution reverb preloaded with samples recorded in Ocean Way and a nice interface...
Has any other company made anything similar?
This is very nice.
This doesn't sound like a D-verb through a pair of Dre headphones though...!
agreed
The only problem is, you can’t buy just the plug in you have to buy hardware.
Less talk more demo!
Haha great demonstration video though
I've since DLed the demo....ran my own test...it's a sweet creamy 3D room but a bit of a Johnny one note (or 2 if you count the two rooms) No way do I think a $350 price tag is justified....
Did the same test. I agree, its nice but only does one kind of sound. It does that sound well but it really a one trick pony.
Gotta agree, though in terms of technology ruining music..That started a long time ago!!!
But really, I could only really see myself using this plugin as a reverb, not as a "re mic" plug in. And i have plenty of reverbs to try before I would reach to this one. Cool idea though.
reverbs are for noobs - re-mic is the way to go...
why do the bypassed versions always sound best? Am I just crazy? It could well be..I used to smoke a lot of dope and listen to Genesis and figure it'll be another 10 years before computers are worth a damn. Of course, by then it'll be too late
Mike Walker I partly agree with you there. I don't think that the final mix at the end sound very good, there's far too much room in it. And the CAB setting that is used on the guitar is better used with an amp sim with the cab simulation tuned off. It just sound muddy with tracks that already have cabs on them, there are better micing options for that.But in general I think it's a great sounding plugin. It can really give a nice room sound to dry tracks.
Harry Kerr I was being sarcastic.
Let's get to the truth of things… What is this plugin about? Saving money. Since when is saving money related to achieving better sound? So what else is there to talk about.
UAD 2 Octo next week Wohoo!! .... my bank balance not so wohoo lol
09:25 Rolf!
So this is what Hugh Grant is up to nowadays huh? Nice.
Not better, just different. With the plugin on it was wider and more depth, off it was more in your face. It's just a matter of preference.
that's because its 100% wet, you would want about 50% dry and 50% wet..
Plug is amazing but at the end when it all comes together piano sounds bad and doesn't mix well. Weird end to a good demo.
WTF, whatever you put through Ocean Way starts sounding out of phase, nasal and scooped. How can anybody find this an improvement over the original source? What was a once punchy track becomes a diluted horribly out of phase track.
I completely agree. It's VERY easy to get a bad sound out of this plugin, which is why I almost wrote it off when I first activated the demo. However, I'm very glad I decided to give it another chance. The remic mode is indispensable for electric guitars, as is the reverb mode for drums. The trick with remic is to mute the mid and far mics and first focus on shaping the near mic. You have to get the near mic really close to the source, which makes sense. If you were close miking a guitar cab, even 1 foot would be too far away to place your 57. In a real world setting, it would be as close as you could physically get it! Once that near mic is sounding good, then I dial in just one other room mic and place it where the phase relation is the strongest. That's why they include that phase button. The main downfall of this plugin is that it's so accurate. It's emulating acoustics and multiple mics in a room, which means you will run into major phase issues if you don't setup those mics correctly. And it's very easy to set them up incorrectly. I think I'll be making a tutorial about this sometime soon.
@@JayCrafton super useful response and info. thanks dude.
@@JayCrafton I agree that OW makes you setup the mics correctly in the room representation. It takes a little time, but it's so worth the effort. Great, positive response! Thank you.
Let him set his Wine down.. heheh
The Piano sounds beter without the plugin
er that should read hasn't come crashing down lol
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sounds boxy
@ bellinghammond
You do not know what you're saying my friend!
yep like putting a baby computer into your computer
You recorded this years ago. I bet you're still talking
doesn't sound like ocean way drums at all
Disappointed with this plugin. Sounded like a great idea but it’s just pish!
1965fatbob
Could you elaborate on what had you so disappointed with this plugin ?
deceiver
Every UA plug-in that I own is the best at what it does, there’s no competition or even comparison. Unfortunately , I am disappointed because this reverb however accurate it may be is not inspirational to my own taste. In saying that it could be exactly what you are looking for in a plug in!
I do not want to attack the demonstrator or the plug in...but this demo really wants me to NOT buy this plug in!
Right? Will this dude talk FOREVER, or WHAT? LOL...
This doesn't sound as good as D-Verb through some Dr. Dre headphones.
Playing the mix of the tracks without any processing sounds a lot better, than with the plugin. It kills all mids of the guitar and leaves a muddy and crippled sound. Piano sound gets destroyed, too. And what it does with the drums is nice, but basically that's just because of the added room.
In the mix with this plugin, the instruments do not fit together. It does not sound, as if they were being recorded in the same room. The complete opposite is the case.
Horrific plugin, from this display.