I've got to be honest man, I'm a drafting student and your skill at free handing designs with such simple paints and tools is genuinely impressive. Especially getting straight lines to come out nicely on something like a pot.
❤ We grounded them up and made flourit's a honey certain nutty flavor of flour. Very good flourthere was many other things we cooked with it. I grew up way out on ranches. Live down doors most of my life, when it comes to the old stuff. I know it comes to the modern stuff. Forget it. I am as dumb as bunch of rocks. There is so much wild foods out there. People just don't know it a lot of good herbs too. The mazzine erves are very important in the nout. Since I've lived down many states. I have taught my kids many, many herbs. Some of the most prettiest pottery I've ever seen. Thoughwho's in Arizona my home state my families are pioneers. Here I comment from a long, long. Line of pioneers, I really love everything you do I love watching you and you are very interesting what you say and how you project yourself very impressive. I'm an old lady so I know what the hell I'm talking about? Straight on no punches, no b******* Rock on
Hey another A++....so the the hematite paint would contain a binder(bee plant, mesquite bean) and also some clay slip ( white slip?)...so your paint sticks to the green pot and then hardens nicely with the fired pot...this paint would work in an oxidation firing?
Exactly. It would also work in a reduction firing. If your fire gets hot enough 900 C, the iron can harden without any clay but my fires seldom get that hot.
Do you think you could use the corrosion product from steel for red pigment? It’s practically an iron oxide at that point. It might be easier to attain for city dwellers.
Hi Andy, love your videos! Just wondering..... what do I need to mix with the manganese as a binder? I'm in the UK, so maybe something I can find here? Thanks.
For mineral paint and organic binder is helpful but not necessary, almost any plant material can be cooked down in just the same way as I do the mesquite beans in this video. What is more important in mineral paint is a fixative, the thing that will make your paint permanent after firing. Make sure you add about 25 - 33% clay with your manganese to make it harden in the fire.
@@AncientPottery Thankyou so much! I can't wait to give this a go! You have been such an inspiration to me.... your videos are so interesting and informative. I've spent the summer processing wild clay, making pots and firing in the garden for the first time, and it's been the best fun ever! And all for free! Thankyou for your content and advice. Greatly appreciated. :)
You need my natural paints class (link below). It depends on what you are doing, beets could be turned into organic paint such as I am making in this video but it would require that it be applied to a special clay slip and fired a certain way. On the other hand if you were using it for a binder for a mineral paint, then yes, a clay fixative would have to be added to allow those minerals to harden in the fire. Paints are a bit of a complex subject to try to cover in a comment. My class is here ancientpottery.how/courses/natural-pottery-paints-slips-and-pigments/
Hey, I'm not sure if you'd have an answer for this or not, but maybe you can help me out; For some reason, when I handle anything that has a lot of iron in it, I get what looks like a mild chemical burn where that item was touching me (I'm not sure what's in it that causes this, since I'm not a medical professional). This makes certain parts of pottery, like glazing with iron or hematite, or working with certain clays, difficult for me because it is painful. Do you have any suggestions for things I could use instead, or should I just keep wearing gloves?
Wow, I have never heard of anything like this, maybe you are allergic to iron. My wife is allergic to nickel. No idea what you could do other than to wear gloves.
@@AncientPottery Oooh, nickel allergies really suck, my sympathies go out to her Thank you for taking the time to answer my question, I'll definitely be watching more of your videos! 😄
I’d like to know why didn’t they use the charcoal for black when it’s plentiful? Also, what was used for green paint? I know yucca scrapings are beautiful green, (I know the color wasn’t utilized in pottery and probably was pretty rare)
Green paint is unknown in traditional Southwestern pottery. Some modern Pueblo and Mata Ortiz potters use green underglaze for paint. But it is never naturally derived. Black organic paint is inside the slip, not on top of it, I don't think you could get the same effect from making paint from charcoal.
You can't judge a clay by the color, it could be great or it could be garbage. You need to try it to know. If it is good you can make whatever you decide to make. I hope it works out for you.
Great video!! A couple questions.... So can you apply the mesquite bean liquid alone as paint, or does it need additional ingredients? Also, can these be used in conjunction with burnishing?
Yes, any of these paints can be applied to a burnished surface. And a mineral paint can be burnished too. You can use organic paint as I did on that bowl I showed in the video but the clay that it is applied to has to be of a certain type.
do you know where i could look up the science behind all of this? i want to know what i could subsidize all of the stuff for because i dont have those beans around and really dont want to search for an iron mine
I have done a bit of experimenting and found that the correct proportion is between 15% and 20%. Any less and it will rub off, any more and you may change the color.
Hi Andy. I ran accros your videos and I love them! very informative. thank you. I'm from Israel and teach primitive pottery here, trying to track down the ainchent ways of the people here. I wonder if you know other plants for coloring (we dont have this bean here) and what are the properties that give the paint? is it the sugar or somthing els? we have Karob trees, and we make syrop out of that. Dats too
Experiment with what you have. I have a friend in Israel who tried making paint out of acacia or something, I don’t know if I ever heard how it worked out.
The soil is red clay and sand. I had wonderful puddles to make mud pies and ashtrays when I was a kid! You do a wonderful job capturing you knowledge on video. Pleasure to find your work
❤❤❤ The Indians made a lot of flower and the flower is really good. I've made it myself. No, gotta, honey sort of meditation when you're baking with it? There's awesome Indian cake. It's sort of a slack cake but they're like c*** bread. It's not bad you could certainly live oftenevada
@@ClownWhisper Glaze is different than this paint. Also, I'm guessing you didn't google what makes glaze, glaze. From google, "What is the main ingredient in most glazes for ceramic pottery? Silica Silica (or industrial sand) is the key ingredient in glass, raw clay, and ceramic glazes." -pulled 06/28/2021
I do find it annoying there wasn't an explanation but its youtube not everything here is gospel in the first place. This channel doesn't need it, but I guess it would ward off the perfectionists from jumping all over it.
@@bennyadrianmartinez no i did not google it, i have been formulating glazes for years. my point regarding the mixed unclear information seems to be valid
I've got to be honest man, I'm a drafting student and your skill at free handing designs with such simple paints and tools is genuinely impressive. Especially getting straight lines to come out nicely on something like a pot.
Thankyou for teaching ALL this for free
You're welcome.
Yes, your knowledge is astounding. I love the old ways. The way people made it through without the convenience of today.
We are spoiled today
@@AncientPottery You’re right about that. We could live better without all the bull that we “depend” on today.
Thanks for the great tip on the mesquite syrup. I'm making some now for testing on my adobe fort.
Have fun!
I love the way you explain stuff its vary easybto understand thank you .
Thank you, I try.
I love each video from Andy. Fantastic channel. Thank you so much for sharing your skills.
Glad you like them!
Love this project! It will make a beautiful addition to the Chanukah table:) I’ll defiantly try! Thank you dear Andy🙏🏻✨✨✨🕊
Thanks
Very informative! I've always wondered how you make mineral paints stick to the pots. Btw, that bowl is gorgeous!
Thanks
❤ We grounded them up and made flourit's a honey certain nutty flavor of flour. Very good flourthere was many other things we cooked with it. I grew up way out on ranches. Live down doors most of my life, when it comes to the old stuff. I know it comes to the modern stuff. Forget it. I am as dumb as bunch of rocks.
There is so much wild foods out there. People just don't know it a lot of good herbs too. The mazzine erves are very important in the nout. Since I've lived down many states. I have taught my kids many, many herbs. Some of the most prettiest pottery I've ever seen. Thoughwho's in Arizona my home state my families are pioneers. Here I comment from a long, long. Line of pioneers, I really love everything you do I love watching you and you are very interesting what you say and how you project yourself very impressive. I'm an old lady so I know what the hell I'm talking about? Straight on no punches, no b******* Rock on
Anxious to see the rest of this process. Thank you. Super informative
You are so welcome!
Hey another A++....so the the hematite paint would contain a binder(bee plant, mesquite bean) and also some clay slip ( white slip?)...so your paint sticks to the green pot and then hardens nicely with the fired pot...this paint would work in an oxidation firing?
Exactly. It would also work in a reduction firing. If your fire gets hot enough 900 C, the iron can harden without any clay but my fires seldom get that hot.
Love your sharing your knowledge
Thanks for watching!
thats cool . Can you cook over open fire with the pots as well
I have cooked food in my pottery before but I don’t do it very often.
I wonder if prickly pear fruit would work for coloring
I like this video. Good and detailed info about paint. More about natural paints please. Where does a mid westerner get these paints?
Organic paint can be made from almost anything, the secret is in the smectite clay slip, not the paint. Try boiling down wild sunflowers.
Do you think you could use the corrosion product from steel for red pigment? It’s practically an iron oxide at that point. It might be easier to attain for city dwellers.
Yes, actually a good tip, that can totally work
Fascinating.
Thanks
the beans are also a wild edible and very nutritious. they can be cooked an eaten. but good to know can make paint too :)
Oh yes, I am a big fan of mesquite beans. The paint is actually very sweet and delicious too.
Awesome video. You inspire me!
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it.
Hi Andy, love your videos! Just wondering..... what do I need to mix with the manganese as a binder? I'm in the UK, so maybe something I can find here? Thanks.
For mineral paint and organic binder is helpful but not necessary, almost any plant material can be cooked down in just the same way as I do the mesquite beans in this video. What is more important in mineral paint is a fixative, the thing that will make your paint permanent after firing. Make sure you add about 25 - 33% clay with your manganese to make it harden in the fire.
@@AncientPottery Thankyou so much! I can't wait to give this a go! You have been such an inspiration to me.... your videos are so interesting and informative. I've spent the summer processing wild clay, making pots and firing in the garden for the first time, and it's been the best fun ever! And all for free! Thankyou for your content and advice. Greatly appreciated. :)
Could you use beets for paint? If so, would you need a binder? Would you mix it with some clay or something else? How do you get black or brown paint?
You need my natural paints class (link below). It depends on what you are doing, beets could be turned into organic paint such as I am making in this video but it would require that it be applied to a special clay slip and fired a certain way. On the other hand if you were using it for a binder for a mineral paint, then yes, a clay fixative would have to be added to allow those minerals to harden in the fire. Paints are a bit of a complex subject to try to cover in a comment.
My class is here ancientpottery.how/courses/natural-pottery-paints-slips-and-pigments/
If you use a hematite clay slip and fire it in reduction, will it come out dark?
Hello Andy, the natural paint you are making-- are they compatible with commercial clay that fire at cone 6?
Sorry, I have no idea as I have no experience with cone 6. You will need to perform some experiments.
Hey, I'm not sure if you'd have an answer for this or not, but maybe you can help me out;
For some reason, when I handle anything that has a lot of iron in it, I get what looks like a mild chemical burn where that item was touching me (I'm not sure what's in it that causes this, since I'm not a medical professional). This makes certain parts of pottery, like glazing with iron or hematite, or working with certain clays, difficult for me because it is painful. Do you have any suggestions for things I could use instead, or should I just keep wearing gloves?
Wow, I have never heard of anything like this, maybe you are allergic to iron. My wife is allergic to nickel. No idea what you could do other than to wear gloves.
@@AncientPottery Oooh, nickel allergies really suck, my sympathies go out to her
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question, I'll definitely be watching more of your videos! 😄
I’d like to know why didn’t they use the charcoal for black when it’s plentiful? Also, what was used for green paint? I know yucca scrapings are beautiful green, (I know the color wasn’t utilized in pottery and probably was pretty rare)
Green paint is unknown in traditional Southwestern pottery. Some modern Pueblo and Mata Ortiz potters use green underglaze for paint. But it is never naturally derived. Black organic paint is inside the slip, not on top of it, I don't think you could get the same effect from making paint from charcoal.
@@AncientPottery thanks for the reply, you have a great channel, fantastic info.
All I have outside W of Chicago is black clay. What can I make? I wanna make it for you?
You can't judge a clay by the color, it could be great or it could be garbage. You need to try it to know. If it is good you can make whatever you decide to make. I hope it works out for you.
Great video!! A couple questions.... So can you apply the mesquite bean liquid alone as paint, or does it need additional ingredients? Also, can these be used in conjunction with burnishing?
Yes, any of these paints can be applied to a burnished surface. And a mineral paint can be burnished too. You can use organic paint as I did on that bowl I showed in the video but the clay that it is applied to has to be of a certain type.
do you know where i could look up the science behind all of this? i want to know what i could subsidize all of the stuff for because i dont have those beans around and really dont want to search for an iron mine
oh literally a second after i commented that you mentioned egg as a binder. will try that if i get my hand on some pigments
Excellent video. Great Content!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What proportion of slip clay to hematite do you use so that the paint will adhere?
I have done a bit of experimenting and found that the correct proportion is between 15% and 20%. Any less and it will rub off, any more and you may change the color.
Perfect bro keep going.
Thank you so much 😀
Will Pine sap work like mesquite sap?🤠
I've never tried it myself, but I would assume it would provide similar properties.
Hi Andy.
I ran accros your videos and I love them! very informative. thank you.
I'm from Israel and teach primitive pottery here, trying to track down the ainchent ways of the people here.
I wonder if you know other plants for coloring (we dont have this bean here) and what are the properties that give the paint? is it the sugar or somthing els?
we have Karob trees, and we make syrop out of that. Dats too
Experiment with what you have. I have a friend in Israel who tried making paint out of acacia or something, I don’t know if I ever heard how it worked out.
Sir you are awesome🥰
Thank you
Hi I was wondering if you knew anything about making ceramic pipes?
I know nothing about pipes, I don't smoke and I have never made one.
Could we buy these hematite blocks?
Maybe from a mineral dealer. You can buy processed hematite from Amazon here amzn.to/32Q6dqh
Is the hematite an oxide?
Yes, hematite is red iron oxide
@@AncientPottery thank you I just started watching today. I live in prince edward island ,Canada 🇨🇦
The soil is red clay and sand. I had wonderful puddles to make mud pies and ashtrays when I was a kid! You do a wonderful job capturing you knowledge on video. Pleasure to find your work
Can I use something like maple syrup
Yes you can but it may stay sticky before firing so be careful you don't put your fingers in it.
Awesome video, more people need to be doing this, imagine how much better the environment would be if we stopped using synthetic garbage..
Yes, thank you
❤❤❤ The Indians made a lot of flower and the flower is really good. I've made it myself. No, gotta, honey sort of meditation when you're baking with it?
There's awesome Indian cake. It's sort of a slack cake but they're like c*** bread. It's not bad you could certainly live oftenevada
Me gustaria fura en español
? Sorry I don't speak Spanish.
why are you calling glaze paint?
This video is not about glaze, it is about paint, matte, non-glaze paint.
@@AncientPottery well that's what I thought about it first but then you talked about firing temperatures with regard to the media and its really off
@@ClownWhisper Glaze is different than this paint. Also, I'm guessing you didn't google what makes glaze, glaze. From google, "What is the main ingredient in most glazes for ceramic pottery?
Silica
Silica (or industrial sand) is the key ingredient in glass, raw clay, and ceramic glazes." -pulled 06/28/2021
I do find it annoying there wasn't an explanation but its youtube not everything here is gospel in the first place. This channel doesn't need it, but I guess it would ward off the perfectionists from jumping all over it.
@@bennyadrianmartinez no i did not google it, i have been formulating glazes for years. my point regarding the mixed unclear information seems to be valid