Is Liberty or Death [SNES] Worth Playing Today? - SNESdrunk
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Got a wig for his wig, got a brain for a heart. Anyway, this game is pretty good once you read a manual the length of a light novel.
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The title that probably holds the crown for "Most Metal Name but Least Metal Game."
It's gems like this that give me a reason to even look at comments.
"Liberty or Chuck Schuldiner" would be a way better game
It's short for "Give me liberty, or give me death!"
No one was more metal than The Founders.
Except maybe Beethoven or the flame thrower guitar guy from Fury Road.
The first 30 seconds of this video: "woaaahhh no wayyyy!" .... "Awwwwwwww 😢"
They really stiffed Benedict Arnold on his loyalty stat in this game, wonder what he did to piss off the developers.
He wasnt the only one. For some reason, his treason is considered to be the most heinous.
When your birth name becomes a synonym for traitor its gonna have that effect.
Funny thing, he was a superior and highly regarded officer. His actions came at a low point for him, but before that, he was very highly respected.
@@mikeoyler2983 Can you name a more impressive revolutionary army commander who went over to the British side? That is part of the reason why.
@@IsmailofeRegime You're right. It's hard to match Arnold's actions at Saratoga. Lee is the closest. His intentions were questionable at Monmouth and had tried to take over Washington's position earlier. There were other officers and soldiers in both armies who changed sides.
"Give me Liberty, or give me SNES!" - Patrick Henry probably.
“The Genesis is coming!” - Paul Revere?
Liberty or SNES. Tough choice.
lol
These delicious delicious PUNS!
This game is criminally underrated, the fact you can take advantage of the knowledge of events on both sides.
I hate when Kellyanne Conway's husband writes a letter to congress saying you suck as Commander in Chief and they have a vote of confidence in which you lose, it's game over!
but its a self inflicted wound since you can turn him down when he offers to join your forces.
Would love an example
Criminally underrated? Idk
@@TheZackofSpades There are a couple pretty good examples. One is that the British side will get a support boost if they capture Philadelphia. Another is if the Americans will get a support boost if Nathan Hale is captured and makes a speech as a martyr.
However, aside from that the knowledge of events won't help you a lot. I suppose you get the writing of the Declaration of Independence if you manage to force Britain into Canada and Florida, but that's kind of an odd condition and tends to only be possible very early or very late in the game.
Other major turning events like the writing of Common Sense and the joining of the Spanish and French armies I'm not even sure you have direct control over even though they can help (or hurt) quite a bit.
Besides that, I suppose familiarity with the war at least gives you a good idea of the advantages of each side? Britain clearly needs to win the war early while they actually have an advantage (before the US is flooded with friendly militia and international regiments), but I mean that sort of thing can be deduced just from the gameplay itself.
@jonathanturbide2232 for what it is, and what it was at the time, it really was. A solid turn base military game with timing and history.
My Dad became obsessed with Operation Europe on the SNES and he got so good at it I could never beat him at it. Good memories. He also loved the P.T.O games.
Koei hit their stride with The Romance of the Three Kingdoms series starting with 3 and continuing up through a lot of sequels. My entire family would sit down and play part 8 on the PS2 for hours at a time. It was like our family game night thing which was one of the few things we did all together that was just kind of calm and relaxing...until we eventually conquered all the computer controled characters and had to start fighting with one another, then it became like playing Monopoly as we started trying to destroy one another. Thankfully, it could take a couple of family game nights before it reached that point.
Accept the trade or you're grounded
😂
I remember reading somewhere that these type of games were popular in Japan as they found the history of foreign nations, especially the U.S. rather fascinating. Pretty sure there was a Famicom game along the same theme that was never officially translated and brought to the west.
Not so different from Americans being into Nobunaga's Ambition, the Sengoku era, or Japanese history in general.
@@Belgandshut up nerd
@@Belgand20 years my mom was waiting at the airport alone & told me she started talking to a young Japanese man on his way to America and she said “oh my son loves Japanese culture and anime and wants to go there someday” and he seemed stunned why anyone from America would want to visit, he thought coming here was the mecca!
I’m not ashamed to say, it’s my favorite game of all time. Came out when I was a young history nerd. The officers were all researched well. The hard mode was an awesome challenge. The battles and management were great for the time. I still play it once a year.
SNESDrunk:"You start out being asked to pick between George Washington or Thomas Gage."
What he meant was "asked to pick between George Washington or being wrong." There I fixed it.
Happy D-Day everyone!
Hell yeah brother
Yes, happy D-Day celebrations.... the day where we reflect on all the horrors of war while our government tries to sell us on another one....
Nationality aside, Thomas Gage was so hilariously pitiful in this game. I think if you're using the redcoats it's probably preferable to play the PC version which at least offers the decency of letting you play as William Howe or Henry Clinton.
Most American "Snes Drunk" intro ever.
2:33
"Let's facilitate connectivity with our founding fathers"
OK that line gave me a chuckle
Me: What's this got to do with Wi-Fi?
Me: What's this got to do with Wi-Fi?
Why
@@zazenwind I dunno, it just did. Maybe the way he said it?
I assume it's a reference to the Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode "Time Chasers" which is partly set during the Revolutionary War where essentially the same line is used as a joke.
2:18 he's coming
he's coming
he's coming
The Brad Neely reference was clutch. I'm gonna have "Washington, Washington" on repeat all day
He Saves Children, but not the British children.
"Ate opponent's brains and invented cocaine"
"He once held an opponent's wife's hand in a... jar of acid... at a party...."
He's coming, he's coming
Let me lay it on the line, he had two on the vine
I mean two sets of testicles, so divine
Well done on the intro today, sir. 🇺🇸
Agreed 😊
As a non-American, the high saturation of liberty nearly killed me.
I laffed
o7
Indeed
2:17 - 🎵he’ll kick you apart, he’ll kick you apart
Ooooh
He’ll save children - but not the British children 🎶
He's coming he's coming he's coming
*aggressive rhythmic heavy breathing*
Make sure to play Gemfire! Fantasy-based!
It was a favorite of mine and my best friend's, when I was 11!
The fact we understood how to play it is just now hitting me as unusual...
I would begin as the kingdom with only one territory, and I knew how to politic with food trading, and spying, and appeasing my people, and cultivating crops, and waiting for high sales seasons, and battling my way across all 43 provinces (I think)...
We would ally with each other's kingdoms in 2 player, until the map was covered, allowing each other equal spaces... then we'd break the alliance and see who could win!
It was even back and forth pretty much!
So much fun for a 9, and an 11 yo pair of dorks!
Gemfire was so much fun and the music still gets stuck in my head
I'm pretty sure he already reviewed it and didn't like it much.
@Joker22593 Perfect time for a recontextualization then! Since he's excited about KOEI now!
The intro today legit made me chuckle. Bravo! Loving the DrunkFriend podcast!
I had this for Sega while I was in the Navy. I played it on my Nomad. I wanna say I beat it, but I highly doubt it. Probably tossed it overboard or gave it away. 😂 Sparkster for sure got completed.
I played the HELL out of Rocket Knight. Still remember the jingle in-game sang by a lady.
Rocketknight kicks Dr machinos butt.
Rocketknight says - "I'm awesome" 😂
I played quite a few video games in my day.
Video count starting with following intros:
SNES drunk: 865
NES drunk: 1
Segadrunk: 69
Steamdrunk: 42
Without any kind of Intro: 41
Switchdrunk: 6
Turbodrunk: 4
Previously on SNES drunk IS drunk: 2
SNES drunk IS drunk: 1
Previously on SNES drunk plays StarFox: 1
Previously on SNES drunk plays Final Fight: 1
3 Hours of the SNES drunk Intro: 1
A four minute and 30 second long SNES drunk Intro: 1
Videos completely about Clyde T. Dog (No Intro as well): 3
All this time and only one NES review
@@Mephianse81 There are way more than a single NES review.
@@goatbone okay I thought so
Love this stats!
Am I the only one that finds this weird?
This game is known as Dokuritsu Sensou in Japan, and is programmed by Stieg Hedlund while working at Koei. Empire Total War's Road to Independence campaign has a similar premise to this, apparently.
Basically nobunaga ambition English ver
Echoes of Romance of the three Kimgdoms
That being said, a 2 player version of Nobunaga's amibition and a 50 player version of Liberty or Death would be pretty wild.
Dude just casually found the most advanced SNES game
This and PTO for the super Nintendo were the favorite of my Father. I have great memories watching him play these games
Glad you`re still here man
I sunk a LOT of hours into their PTO 2 (Pacific Theater of Operations). KOEI had some real gems for the SNES
The Ethan Allen joke is what got me
Drunk is the sofa king of jokes.
I am of that age where I grew up with NES/ SNES and now can appreciate a good Ethan Allen furniture joke tied into A historical sim game. Time goes way too fast.
As a father, who enjoys historical stuff, especially military history, I felt that dad comment SNES Drunk. Lucky for my kids, I’m not going to subject them to these sim games. I Just pull a Larry David and drag them to historic sites.
Also, I heard that Professor Brothers “Washington” Reference. You are a Man Of Culture and This is why you have the best reviews. “Had a wig for a wig, had a brain for his heart. He’ll kick you apart, he’ll kick you apart!”
This was my uncle's favorite game. He also like Gemfire, Fhining Force, and others, but this was his favorite. He got me into strategy games.
There is still something special about this game. It's amazing how well it holds up.
You kind of reviewed this like someone who's never encountered a turn based strategy game before.
I loved this as a kid and played the hell out of it. I could never win as the British, though. Good video.
That brad neely reference kicked ass! Didn't expect that, haha
Sadly Koei never made Nat Turner's Punchout.
"12 stories high, made of radiation" 😂
@ekahnoman7331 "he's coming, he's coming, he's coming. Did I mention his 4 nuts? Well he also had 4 dicks." lmao 😂
I didn’t realize you’re 42, man! That’s inspiring. Way to keep going, loved seeing your videos for the first time about 4-5 years ago. Always quality!
He'll save children, but not the British children
The Koei strategy games were always great. Not for everyone, but if you liked history and strategy games, they filled a niche nobody else really touched. Still worth playing today, though companies like Paradox have taken over where Koei left off since they sort of make strategy games still but mostly focus elsewhere.
For strategy games, Romance of the three kingdoms 4 for SNES.
KOEI did well to streamline gameplay, and it’s user friendly commands. Pretty good music and more visually appealing than it’s predecessors.
That Brad Neely shout though. Let me lay it on the line, he had two on the vine.
3:01 fun fact: after the war, ethan allen lobbied for VT to become a state. when that didn't work, he then lobbied for it to rejoin Canada, which worked better
I rented this game once and just fell in love with it. Never was able to find a copy to buy and the place that rented would not let me buy it.
That's how I got my copy, from the rental store.
I'm starting to think everyones dad loves history and wars. It reminds me of Dennis Leary's song, Asshole. "I like football, and porno, and books about war."
To be honest here, this game and EVO Search for Eden are great SNES games that follow under the “Edutainment” category. They both were developed by prominent developers/publishers and are kind of historically accurate to what they are trying to portray. Both are great games to play!
He's coming, he's coming, he's coming
Great job! As a dad, and history buff, (I know, I repeat myself) it’s cool to see that these games were made in the first place. Not everything had to be robots and aliens.
We had this growing up, I hardly understood what was going on but both my brothers were able to beat it with both the Americans and the British. So a lot of nostalgia for this one, especially the music.
The historical part was lost on child me as I'm from Canada. 😅
lovely intro! No surprise Koei was involved, I was immediately reminded of Romance of the... series.
Lemme tell ya something, SNES Drunk. My dad is also a HUGE history buff, but was hesitant to ever pick up a video game, with a few exceptions. Now they didn't exactly line up with his history love, but...
He used to get stoned with his buddies when I was a little little guy in the mid-late 80s and play MULE. I asked him if he was actually into it or if it was just for the party. It was the latter.
He LOVED Doom when it first dropped, and got his whole office playing it, including his very square Swedish company president (who got extremely motion sick)
The last time I saw him with a controller in his hand it was when he and my mom got me GTA3. Dad had a grand old time running everyone over and getting murdered by cops.
We also had a brief Tetris rivalry in the early 90s, and he'd play the occasional Madden.
So when people talk about Dad Games, my mind shifts to those.
"facilitate Connectivity" another MSt3k reference, nice
The Revolutionary War was actually 241 years ago. Doesn't take long for a country to turn into crap. The game is actually good, if you like these types of simulation/ tactics games that is. I've been a huge fan of Koei since the original Nobunaga game on the NES.
Always love getting a new SNES Drunk video!
I can't believe I've never heard of this
Yeah, what were you even doing in 1994? 😂
@@ShadowDx I was playing the unlicensed knock-off: "Freedom or Fatality"
The most American SNES game ever. I feel like this would've been a perfect 4th of July video...but, hey, a month early is still good! 🇺🇸
The intro song was cool, and the game was actually quite good.
Awesome video! Great content man! I enjoyed this episode! Have a great day Drunk!
I had this on the Genesis. It's definitely one of those games that you turn on for 2 minutes, have no idea what to do, and turn it off and play something else.
You are very much right about dads being into games like this. My dad exclusively would play stuff like Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Madden in the 90s. It looked way, way too complicated for my liking as a young kid so I never tried them but he loved em.
I was also about 13 when these games came out. But Ghengis Khan 2 was my jam back then, i used to play that game all the rime.
Best video intro I can remember, well played.
2:15 aw a Brad Neely reference! Warms my heart.
My great grandfather was 90 when this game was released. He would always politely decline invitations to play with us. But, somehow, he played this one. It was still playing on his bedroom TV when his friend found him dead.
Wow sad but kind of sweet. He went out in style
Guess he didn't choose liberty then.
@@collectingmemoriesyt Best. Reply. Ever.
That turned nasty real fast.
This didnt happen you made it up
Best SNESDrunk intro ever.
The koei strategy games are all about logistics. Right up my alley
First time this channel was suggested to me out of the blue. Really enjoyed this and I'm a hardcore SNES fan so totally hitting the sub button 👍.
When it comes to the Non-Asian focused old KOEI strategy games, I prefer the NES port of L'empereur a bit over Liberty of Death. I feel like it's a rare instance of KOEI making their battles a bit more fun and interesting by having a greater focus on artillery tactics.
This video is just as informative as it is hilarious. Great stuff 👏 😂
Back in the day when KOEI made a game I was a sucker for it.
The Koei game I played a ton of on the SNES was P.T.O. 2. Lovely video as always
North Vs South on NES is also a very solid game.
Shame you couldn't want another month to upload this as a 4th of July special lol
Liberty waits for no one
@@SNESdrunk That is the best response ever. You are a genius.
I was excited to get this game about a decade ago. I tried it out, but didn’t have the manual. I had played a few Koei games like Gemfire and liked it a lot growing up. It just was a bit too high of a learning curve at the time. I would like to get back to it someday. Great video.
Oh hey, I remember this one! My dad loved playing it! 😆I seem to recall playing it multi-player with him a few times, but never got into it like he did. Usually when we played a game like this together it was Gheghis Khan 2 Clan of the Gray Wolf or RotK 4.
L'mperor was a game from this series on the NES where you play as Napoleon, and my dad loved that game! Many years later he found this one, and played it all the time!
Brad Neely reference brings me waaaaay back.
Love it.
Ah, the kind of relatable content this withering, dithering 45 year old has come to appreciate.
I was one of those weird people who really liked this game as a (young teenage) kid. Still have a copy on the shelf. Amazing sim port to a relatively underpowered (considering the game style) console.
1 SNES DRUNK today is worth two tomorrow. Loved the intro as well!
Koei made an impressive set of pacific naval strategy games called Pacific Theater of Operations. I loved all their historical simulation games as a kid!
Was that a freaking Brad Neely reference I heard! A man of class and distinguishable taste! I love your videos man!
How have I never heard of this game? Super interesting.
I totally appreciated Koei's games as a kid. They had so many more hours in them than anything else out there, even Square's RPGs. And they were multiplayer so I could totally get my friends into them instead of playing Risk or Axis & Allies yet again. When I got Nobunaga's Ambition: Lord of Darkness for Christmas we got dozens and dozens of hours out of it, only Tecmo Super Bowl, NHL and the various iterations of Street Fighter got as much play. The Babbage's sales charts in old Electronic Gaming Monthly magazines, they sold really well too.
I always loved North vs. South on the NES when I was a kid.
That last cutscene would make a great metal band shirt
Here comes George; in control.
Women dug his snuff and his gallant stroll.
Ultimate General is such a great and under-appreciated series! It's great to hear it get a shout out!
Thanks for all the vids.
I know right 🙂😎
"withering, dithering 40-something..." Relatable.
Nice, been waiting many years for Koei games to pop up here. Yes, they're clunky, yes there's a ton of features that don't matter, yes the game drags once you have your opponent beat but a ton of provinces to conquer, and on and on.......BUT it's still a fun map painter and the characters and Koei do a good job of immersion that make it interesting. This game feels like it's based on the same engine as Romance of the Three Kingdoms II, which was my favorite and the description above basically applies to that too.
Holy crap we're the same age, but I loved this game when I was 12 and have played through it with both the sides. I was a history dork as a kid.
My step-brother and loved KOEI strategy games back in the day. Our local Mom & Pop rental store sold us their copy of Genghis Khan II because we were the only ones who ever rented it!
Not something I'd have picked up but man, gotta admit the Snes library certainly had variety and something for everyone, I can appreciate that.
Can you imagine if they made a Dynasty Warriors game like this? I'm just imagining Benedict Arnold as the equivalent to Lu Bu.
Genghis Khan II for the SNES was my favorite Koei strategy game for the console. I played it a lot.
Anything KOEI was my jam growing up. Loved every one I could get my hands on.
Always loved this one as a kid! Koei has a ton of stuff like this, hope you can give them a chance.
Loved these style games
He'll kick you apart! He'll kick you apart!
NGL, If they made a modern re-make of this game in the style of the latest Dynasty Warriors or Samurai Warriors I'd easily put 100 hours into it... Call it Liberty Warriors or something.
I remember renting and playing that game when I saw it back in late 1994. I was 15 at the time. I happen to have enjoyed the game and even today I often will randomly play it for a quick thrill since after playing it so much I became aware of a few tricks.
Speaking of Koei, I would absolutely play the ever loving hell out an American Revolution version of Dynasty Warriors. See how ridiculous their uniforms get, what kind of super powers they give to major figures from the era, I’m just saying…
There are so many games from Koei's golden era that of course I'm looking forward to more of those obscure or never translated to english titles. Thanks for the video!
I put so many hours into this as a kid! I was crazy for historical simulations
Hey I've missed a lot of your past uploads. I have today off ill spend some of it watching your videos. Have a great day sir.
"Withering dittering 42 year old"
I felt that.
I'm a big fan of Pacific Theatre of Operations: II for the SNES, it's also a Koei war game, but WW2. It was one of those weird games that I'd rent as a kid (along with Aerobiz 1/2) when there wasn't anything else good to rent.
I think there's only one edutainment game franchise that was popular, the Carmen sandiego ones, so popular they even spawned a tv show that... also wasn't bad at all. It's a fascinating nugget in gaming history