Another brilliant recounting! Not only have you pulled in so many sources from all sides--some obscure--but you've also managed to have the narrative flow naturally, smoothly, so that it's easy to "see" the events as they unfold. That's a significant talent in bringing history alive, and, while maintaining accuracy, making it compelling. Much Thanks!
I have always loved this stuff since I was a young boy and I really appreciate the hard work you must put into these videos. You are very good at it and please keep them coming! You cover so much in so little time. Very special.
Your welcome. Excellent work on your part. Including personal letters from the participants brings the hardships and difficulties of this fascinating time in our history.
I’m new to your channel Siobhan. I like your backstories as well as aftermath of the Little Bighorn Battle. Most podcasts deal directly with the battle. The events leading up and subsequent to that fateful event are quite interesting also.
I enjoy your videos. I like to understand the events that lead up too specific historical events that are frequently shown in venues like UA-cam but not what lead up to them. Great Job
Thank you! I it is hard to understand an event when you are only presented with that one moment without all the reasons that lead up to it. So good of you to leave me a message!
I live in Michigan... I've been to the Monroe county historical society museum.. they have a lot of belongings of custer's It's worth stopping by if you are in southern Michigan.
Yes, I've been there! It's great! But no matter where I looked I couldn't find any souvenirs, post cards or t shirts, that even mentioned the Custrts'🤷🏼♀️
Thank you for guiding me to your very detailed account of the Washita event and the live of Black Kettle. Tremendously sad story, which I had read about from other authors. You are a gifted story teller. Fast forward to today. It pains to see a southern border wall and concertina wire. In 150 years from "freedom" to present day. USA is on quite a journey and it is not all for the common good. With very best regards!
Love your channel I've been obsessed with this subject since I was about 8 been studying it ever since im glad you have put so much time and effort into it it shows and I'm greatful!!!
I can't believe how much knowledge you have on these subjects I have been obsessed with Custer since I was about 8 when I got my first book about him to this day I can't explain why the book was jay Monahan I just find it fascinating...I don't know why but every detail of it just haunt's me I think you have best site about it and I'm personally very greatful...keep going!!!!
People might want to check into little bighorn associates this organization has been around for a very long time I was member back in 1988 it is a very good source of information
@@user-ez5fc5lp6j Kevin, you might like to watch this short video!! Maybe you will recognize LBHA members!! ua-cam.com/video/EEIxC5IITMM/v-deo.htmlsi=W2K8cJa9l0tv1ixH
Some perspective is perhaps worth noting if not directly needed in relation to Sand Creek, the first is that Custer and Sheridan had nothing to do with it but Samuel Ryan Curtis may have inspired Sheridan's idea for a winter attack. Chivington, who was working under Ryan's orders, specifically when or when not to make peace, was tried not merely before congress but by Wynkoop, under whom at least two of Chivington's officers refused to attack and submitted even faulty reports of what they had allegedly seen there, including the supposed deaths of Black Kettle and George Bent. The Cheyenne fired first. Chivington was not personally present but witnessed the battle from afar.
Many good points there. I recently read Michno's three Battles of Sand Creek and found it incredible. When you focus just on the details of a battle, and not on all of the reasons leading up to it, you miss so much. Which is why this Black Kettle/ Washita video of mine goes back to much earlier days to try to show the many forces at work that collided November 27, 1868. Same could be said of Sand Creek. Thanks so much for the comments! I'm working on the Washita Part II now so please stayed tuned!
@@SiobhanFallon7 I thought you did really well on Black Kettle's personal history but there were a whole lot of things that happened over that spring and summer.
@@sethmanrockandroll trust me I know!! So much going on, which was why I tried to narrow it down to events that involved the 7th CAV, and still it's nearly an hour and I hardly got to the Washita fight! There is so very much to cover. I hope to address more as best as I can. Very good of you to share your thoughts and let me know what to work on. Thank you!
A MOST SEE VIDEO FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HISTORY! Mrs. Fallon once again you have captured crucial moments and details leading up to the battle of the little Big Horn. QUESTION??? "So,, were the guns given to the Cheynne (In the peace treaty truce) used against Custer? I heard in another video (not yours) that the Dakota were actually better armed against the 7th on the day of the battle. If so, how??? Again, you leave us wanting more!!!!
Pretty comprehensive account and as fairly told as anyone could with being inclusive of all the history that preceded the event. I don't envy Black Kettle for trying to be a statesmen for such a diverse group in which were obviously disagreements with whatever compromises would have to be made. That would have probably proven to be a "mission impossible" for whoever undertook it as early as 1867-68 while Buffalo were still plentiful and the inevitable was not yet made obvious to insolent rebellious youth. . I think it was easier for Parker only six years later when the Inevitable was more obvious to many if not most of the Quahadis Comanche. I don't think it would've been as possible for "Bad Hand" Mackenzie to pull of the ultimate coup of all the US Cavalry by stealing their horses en masse. That followed decimating pandemics of Small Pox, retaliatory raids by Texas Rangers, the failure of the surprise attack at the second battle of Adobe Walls and the destruction of their winter stores in the Blanco Canyon hit-n-run raid by Mackenzie's Raiders. But the theft of 1500 or more horses was the Comanche learned coup that demanded respect and probably made it easier for Mackenzie to influence any Comanche War Chief in charge after realizing the war was lost to them. I suppose "Big Red Meat" wasn't among those realizing until freezing to death in a US Cavalry Stockade ice locker . . . He had unwisely taken it out on settlers to the end. Parker was not even in contention as the most feared Comanche War Chief having arguably lost all battles that he was in charge of. He was just shrewd enough to counsel adapting to the inevitable .He must've had creds enough to be convincing at it or maybe it was just that obvious..
Ice, I am glad you mention, "Bad Hand" Mackenzie, he is one of my favorite Cav. commanders, an amazing Officer who's career ended in a very, very sad circumstance, and died with next to no fanfare. :(
And, now...just like that...I feel like I have a working knowledge of the Washita engagement ---- and another 50+ minutes that seemed like only 15. Well done. Again. 🌹
Very fine presentation. There was a trooper with GAC at Washita that took as a trophy a very fine Axe Pipe, I do not have his name at present but I can get into my library and attain it, that he claimed as Black Kettles own. He brought this trophy back to his home while on leave or after he left the 7th and his family said he was very distraught at what he saw at the battle and became very depressed and killed himself. I still have a picture of that Axe Pipe and it was very nice indeed. I often wonder what this poor trooper saw.......
Gosh, I don't know that story! Do share more if you come across the details! There were some soldiers who ended up in lunatic asylums after this fight. I would like to research them some day.
@@SiobhanFallon7 I had a chance tonight to look through my library but did not find that material, I am not a happy camper right now. It was one of my most prized documents but I will check a few other places, I always took great care of it.....:(
You did a wonderful job here, but one of the overarching factors in this whole sad affair is the rivalry and outright hatred some officers had for other officers. Plus, the goals of the army were often suborned to the whims of congress as well as a top command whose mindset was still fighting the civil war. I could go on but there is no need as you have this in hand. Take a bow.
Yes, I agree, though the effect of all those factions are so hard to parse out now when we look back. Thanks for pointing this out, and thanks for the kind comments!
@@SiobhanFallon7 I did sort of binge and saw how well aware you are of the convoluted politics of mid 19th century military politics. Still, there is a naivete, even innocence in all this bickering. There is a strain of self importance that cannot be compared today to what I call toxic narcissm. Self pride perhaps, a belief in themselves for having survived, or maybe just the romanticism of an age.
I do think a lot of negative moments in US dealings with Native Americans gets unfairly pinned on him. He was flawed, but not nearly as wicked as he is portrayed these days. Thank you for the kind words, Jay! I am grateful that you took the time to watch and comment.
@@SiobhanFallon7 I am part Indian and European so I look at both sides. I see how we treated the Indian scouts as bad. I however don't overlook like many that the Indians killed each other for land , kept slaves and broke treaties. History is much more complicated then white man evil. I admire the fact you show both sides with honesty and thought. I'm also glad to see you have done many videos so I will enjoy that! Can't say I'm a big fan of Benteen however......haha.
@@jayledermann7701 thank you. I think you and I are are in the same boat. I try to see the spectrum of good and bad, and that they were all humans just trying to live and feed their families, and do whatever it took to do that and remain a respected part of their own society if they could. Curious to hear more from you, Jay! Thanks for your insightful comments. And ha ha ha, yes, Benteen is a bit prickly ;)
100 percent more good than bad. He went to that village to save a young boy and woman. They were both murdered before they could be saved by black kettles wives.
@@wilmoney4619 interesting that you say that. I don't think Custer knew the Blinns were in Black Kettle's village when he attacked. BUT he would know that two white women hostages were being held later in the village of Stone Forehead/ Medicine Arrow. And Custer approached that 'fight' completely differently. I think because he did not want the same fate to befall those two girls. So Clara and Willie would ultimately save the lives of Anna Brewster Morgan and Sarah White. My next installment will look into that. Thanks so much for watching and commenting, Wil!
Hi Siobhan, I'm new to your channel. It's great. I especially love your maps and how you explain them. I wonder if you can help me with this? Why are Native American horses always referred to as "ponies"? In England and Australia, an equine (to use a neutral term) is a pony if it is 14.2 hands or less and 14.3 and above is a 'horse. In most of the pictures of Native American's on animals are definitely taller than 14.2, so they should be called 'horses'. I'm also curious as to why an attack on a sleeping camp is called a "Battle"? It just doesn't seem like a battle. Kind regards.
Hello there! Thanks for the kind words! Here is a great rundown from a friend of mine who knows horses well: "In the USA the measuring standard is the same- under 14.3 is a pony, over is considered a horse. Those are primarily needed for showing purposes and each animal would have a card to prove their ‘pony’ status. Within that division, there are sub-categories of small, medium and large ponies. Probably every Indian pony was at least a large. I’m sure many of them may have technically measured as ‘ horses’ but in general they were smaller things than cavalry horses, which were mostly around 15-15.2. Just like humans, they weren’t as big back then and big horses wouldn’t have done well physically on the plains . I’m attaching a picture of my last horse who was 18.1 hands and a large pony who was 13.3-14 hands. Guess who would survive the Black Hills Expedition and the winter in S. Dakota…"
Great job with the Washita. I wonder why none of the Native American accounts Mention the beautiful calls and the sound of the band. These were mentioned by several accounts of this battle by the soldiers. Those who were involved that is. If you've ever tried to play a band instrumental in sub-freezing weather, you know But it's like looking at flagpole in the dead of winner. Couldn't be there was no band? And what does that say about Those accounts?
The Cheyenne war parties truly had no idea that the atrocities they committed against civilians would be bring the wrath of the powerful US Army down upon them. General Sheridan was the primary figure in these campaigns and his contempt toward the Native American was quite possibly unsurpassed. Lt. Col. Custer was both his trusted friend and subordinate; and it's almost a guarantee that Sheridan told him simply "Go deal with it and make your own calls." It was certainly no peacekeeping mission. Due to this, I am puzzled as to why Sheridan condemned the actions of Custer, following the disaster at the Little Bighorn?
Good points, Kevin. I imagine seeing the fall out and public shock, grief, and out cry over Custer's death made the Army decide to pull together and cover any of their own complicity. Easy to blame Custer and his "rashness" then to reveal that Gibbon's column had seen Indian braves countless times on this campaign and done nothing, Crook had retreated and regrouped for much longer than he should have (and didn't try to get word to Terry) and then Terry and Gibbon got lost going to the Little Bighorn on their supposed meet-up with Custer. Custer was dead and could not defend his actions, and the living used this to their best advantage, as human beings usually do 🤷🏼♀️
@@SiobhanFallon7 It doesn’t matter how this whole situation was whitewashed, the white peoples stole Native Americans land, culture, and way of life. Myself being part “Indian” can relate to the destruction and grief that these poor souls had to suffer through! Thank you for your outstanding presentation once again.
Hi there, Steven. Thanks for your comment. But I feel like I can't give you a complete answer to that question in a simple response here. There were many factors at play that day, and many human beings making choices, some good, some bad. One day, when I am confident, I will put together a presentation on the Little Bighorn. But I feel like I still have so much to learn! 🙏
Almost 1869, so only a few months before the Dog Soldiers got trounced at Summit Springs. Ps. I was under the impression that Comstock and Grover were leaving Turkey Leg's camp when they were supposedly set upon.
HI there, Robert. Here is a series that tries to illustrate the ongoing conflicts between the Southern Cheyenne and the U.S. Army... Thank you! ua-cam.com/play/PLHfg6vohewsz_5UUQNdUfwYvWa5jP_3Jn.html
Chivington lost 25 kia and 51 wounded, it was not an easy fight. He attacked because the Indians had left the reservation to raid. Over a 100 settlers were killed.
Thanks so much for pointing that out. Even Sand Creek had a reason, whatever we may think of Chivington's actions today. Greg Michno has a great book, I think it is called the Three Battles of Sand Creek, that traces the history before, during, and after that conflict. Thanks again for those details and the reminder of losses on all sides.
@reuterromain1054 Hi there. Thanks for taking the time to comment! I think this video series tries to figure out the Battle. There's a Part 2 as well By "yet another Custer massacre"-- what others are you talking about?
@jessejames9245 thank you!!! I always manage a few mistakes!! I'm a terrible public speaker and making these videos have helped me. But I still manage to misread or misquote things ALL THE TIME 🤦🏼♀️🤣
The prevailing thought I have is: Why didn't North American "natives" invent the steam engine. Or telegraph. Or the wheel? Because they were destined for relegation to the past. Stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Outside influences happen. Just like the Chinese influence on the biden "admin"😂.
The Cheyenne had farmed earlier in their history but gladly given it up for horses and a nomadic life. And they did want the technology (guns) that made them more lethal warriors. I don't know enough nuance about their society, but yes, I agree with you that there was no way the Plains people could win in a war against the massive quantity of human beings who were streaming West, human beings who brought with them the combined technology of European/Western power at that time.
Not a battle but a massacre. attack of a non hostile village. If Custer loses men ( Elliot detachment) is only by his fault.. I think it's not because the us have casualties that mean it was a battle and not a massacre. Same thing with Woonded knee.
This was NOT a battle! Custer attacked a village of Cheyenne who were peaceful. Most Indians killed were women and children. Ha abandoned part of his command who were wiped out. Why do people admire this mam?
Did you get a chance to watch the video? I address many of those issues in both Washita Part I and Part II. I'd love to hear your feedback! Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts here!
Another brilliant recounting! Not only have you pulled in so many sources from all sides--some obscure--but you've also managed to have the narrative flow naturally, smoothly, so that it's easy to "see" the events as they unfold. That's a significant talent in bringing history alive, and, while maintaining accuracy, making it compelling. Much Thanks!
That's very generous and much appreciated praise. Thank you!
Thanks for that. It was very kind of your friend to help out. I'm slowly getting through all your videos. You're very good.
Thank you! I am still trying to think of a good answer to your question about what made an attack on a village a "battle" ...
Good job 👏
Thank you!!! I'm planning on posting a new (much shorter) one later today!! 🙏🤞
@@SiobhanFallon7 Got it.. watch tonight..
This is by far the BEST Washita Video I ever saw. Great pleasure. Thank you very much! I´m most impressed.
That is the BEST message! 🎉 thank you!
Appreciate your thorough research.
Thank you!
An absolutely superb video! 👏👏👏
Again, this is so excellent. Thank you so much!
You are making my day! Thank you so very much for taking the time to comment in such a lovely way.
Excellent presentation!
Joe, you are too good to me. Thank you!
I have always loved this stuff since I was a young boy and I really appreciate the hard work you must put into these videos. You are very good at it and please keep them coming! You cover so much in so little time. Very special.
Thank you so much!! After I post I always think of 101 things I should have included 🤦♀️😉
All this time has passed and it still sickening to hear of Mrs.Blinn and her little boy fate at the hand of the barbarian.
It was a terrible end and she was so close to freedom 😢. Thank you for watching and commenting, John 🙏
Your welcome. Excellent work on your part. Including personal letters from the participants brings the hardships and difficulties of this fascinating time in our history.
I love your style and use of old photos and graphics. Please keep them coming.
Thank you so much! 🙏
Come on folks! Hit the "like" knob! :) Top quality research and ditto with story telling. Bravo!
Thank you! 🤣🎉🙌
I’m new to your channel Siobhan. I like your backstories as well as aftermath of the Little Bighorn Battle. Most podcasts deal directly with the battle. The events leading up and subsequent to that fateful event are quite interesting also.
Thank you so much. Those are the sorts of details that are most fascinating to me, and what I feel myself drawn to in both my writing and my research.
Another rousing edition! Thanks Siobhan!
The time to watch this sped by. This was so interesting and as much as I thought I knew I learned more.
Thank you!
I enjoy your videos. I like to understand the events that lead up too specific historical events that are frequently shown in venues like UA-cam but not what lead up to them.
Great Job
Thank you! I it is hard to understand an event when you are only presented with that one moment without all the reasons that lead up to it.
So good of you to leave me a message!
Great video of a very highly charged topic!
Yes, I know, I was nervous to tackle it . Thank you for taking the time to comment!
Custard was 15,000 miles away he must've been on his way to the moon
Yes. Don't underestimate his ambition.
I definitely added a zero there and didn't realize til it had gone live 🤦♀️
@@SiobhanFallon7 No worries thank you for this great story tons of information love this stuff
Love your videos. Head phones on and feels like stepping back in time.
So good of you to watch and comment!
I live in Michigan... I've been to the Monroe county historical society museum.. they have a lot of belongings of custer's It's worth stopping by if you are in southern Michigan.
Yes, I've been there! It's great! But no matter where I looked I couldn't find any souvenirs, post cards or t shirts, that even mentioned the Custrts'🤷🏼♀️
Fantastic research, really enjoying these presentations
Oh thank you!!
I really appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you for guiding me to your very detailed account of the Washita event and the live of Black Kettle. Tremendously sad story, which I had read about from other authors. You are a gifted story teller. Fast forward to today. It pains to see a southern border wall and concertina wire. In 150 years from "freedom" to present day. USA is on quite a journey and it is not all for the common good. With very best regards!
Thank you for commenting with such empathy!
All the best to you and I hope to hear from you again 🙏
Love your channel I've been obsessed with this subject since I was about 8 been studying it ever since im glad you have put so much time and effort into it it shows and I'm greatful!!!
Oh Kevin, thank you!! Trying to finish the next part of Tom Custer now!
I can't believe how much knowledge you have on these subjects I have been obsessed with Custer since I was about 8 when I got my first book about him to this day I can't explain why the book was jay Monahan I just find it fascinating...I don't know why but every detail of it just haunt's me I think you have best site about it and I'm personally very greatful...keep going!!!!
People might want to check into little bighorn associates this organization has been around for a very long time I was member back in 1988 it is a very good source of information
@@user-ez5fc5lp6j yes!!! I hope so! I mention it in my description box of the newer videos
@@user-ez5fc5lp6j Kevin, you might like to watch this short video!! Maybe you will recognize LBHA members!!
ua-cam.com/video/EEIxC5IITMM/v-deo.htmlsi=W2K8cJa9l0tv1ixH
Some perspective is perhaps worth noting if not directly needed in relation to Sand Creek, the first is that Custer and Sheridan had nothing to do with it but Samuel Ryan Curtis may have inspired Sheridan's idea for a winter attack. Chivington, who was working under Ryan's orders, specifically when or when not to make peace, was tried not merely before congress but by Wynkoop, under whom at least two of Chivington's officers refused to attack and submitted even faulty reports of what they had allegedly seen there, including the supposed deaths of Black Kettle and George Bent. The Cheyenne fired first. Chivington was not personally present but witnessed the battle from afar.
Many good points there.
I recently read Michno's three Battles of Sand Creek and found it incredible.
When you focus just on the details of a battle, and not on all of the reasons leading up to it, you miss so much. Which is why this Black Kettle/ Washita video of mine goes back to much earlier days to try to show the many forces at work that collided November 27, 1868. Same could be said of Sand Creek.
Thanks so much for the comments! I'm working on the Washita Part II now so please stayed tuned!
@@SiobhanFallon7 I thought you did really well on Black Kettle's personal history but there were a whole lot of things that happened over that spring and summer.
@@sethmanrockandroll trust me I know!! So much going on, which was why I tried to narrow it down to events that involved the 7th CAV, and still it's nearly an hour and I hardly got to the Washita fight!
There is so very much to cover. I hope to address more as best as I can.
Very good of you to share your thoughts and let me know what to work on.
Thank you!
A MOST SEE VIDEO FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HISTORY!
Mrs. Fallon once again you have captured crucial moments and details leading up to the battle of the little Big Horn.
QUESTION???
"So,, were the guns given to the Cheynne (In the peace treaty truce) used against Custer? I heard in another video (not yours) that the Dakota were actually better armed against the 7th on the day of the battle. If so, how???
Again, you leave us wanting more!!!!
Thank you! 🤗
I have enjoyed your series. Thanks for the great work.
Really appreciate you watching and letting me know. Thank you!
Pretty comprehensive account and as fairly told as anyone could with being inclusive of all the history that preceded the event. I don't envy Black Kettle for trying to be a statesmen for such a diverse group in which were obviously disagreements with whatever compromises would have to be made. That would have probably proven to be a "mission impossible" for whoever undertook it as early as 1867-68 while Buffalo were still plentiful and the inevitable was not yet made obvious to insolent rebellious youth.
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I think it was easier for Parker only six years later when the Inevitable was more obvious to many if not most of the Quahadis Comanche. I don't think it would've been as possible for "Bad Hand" Mackenzie to pull of the ultimate coup of all the US Cavalry by stealing their horses en masse. That followed decimating pandemics of Small Pox, retaliatory raids by Texas Rangers, the failure of the surprise attack at the second battle of Adobe Walls and the destruction of their winter stores in the Blanco Canyon hit-n-run raid by Mackenzie's Raiders. But the theft of 1500 or more horses was the Comanche learned coup that demanded respect and probably made it easier for Mackenzie to influence any Comanche War Chief in charge after realizing the war was lost to them. I suppose "Big Red Meat" wasn't among those realizing until freezing to death in a US Cavalry Stockade ice locker . . . He had unwisely taken it out on settlers to the end. Parker was not even in contention as the most feared Comanche War Chief having arguably lost all battles that he was in charge of. He was just shrewd enough to counsel adapting to the inevitable .He must've had creds enough to be convincing at it or maybe it was just that obvious..
Great insights. Thank you!
Ice, I am glad you mention, "Bad Hand" Mackenzie, he is one of my favorite Cav. commanders, an amazing Officer who's career ended in a very, very sad circumstance, and died with next to no fanfare. :(
And, now...just like that...I feel like I have a working knowledge of the Washita engagement ---- and another 50+ minutes that seemed like only 15. Well done. Again. 🌹
Thank you so much!!! You are the best!
Very fine presentation. There was a trooper with GAC at Washita that took as a trophy a very fine Axe Pipe, I do not have his name at present but I can get into my library and attain it, that he claimed as Black Kettles own. He brought this trophy back to his home while on leave or after he left the 7th and his family said he was very distraught at what he saw at the battle and became very depressed and killed himself. I still have a picture of that Axe Pipe and it was very nice indeed. I often wonder what this poor trooper saw.......
Gosh, I don't know that story! Do share more if you come across the details!
There were some soldiers who ended up in lunatic asylums after this fight. I would like to research them some day.
@@SiobhanFallon7 I will look it up in my library and give you his name etc. I have pictures too.
@@Jay_Hall thank you!
@@SiobhanFallon7 I had a chance tonight to look through my library but did not find that material, I am not a happy camper right now. It was one of my most prized documents but I will check a few other places, I always took great care of it.....:(
@@Jay_Hall it'll turn up.
That happens to me all the time
Thinking of you, Jay 🙏🎄🙏
Excellent job as a Recents subscriber I find your program very interesting. Looking forward to your next edition.
Yay!! Thank you for subscribing, watching, commenting! Happy to have you on board 🎉
You did a wonderful job here, but one of the overarching factors in this whole sad affair is the rivalry and outright hatred some officers had for other officers. Plus, the goals of the army were often suborned to the whims of congress as well as a top command whose mindset was still fighting the civil war. I could go on but there is no need as you have this in hand. Take a bow.
Yes, I agree, though the effect of all those factions are so hard to parse out now when we look back.
Thanks for pointing this out, and thanks for the kind comments!
@@SiobhanFallon7 I did sort of binge and saw how well aware you are of the convoluted politics of mid 19th century military politics.
Still, there is a naivete, even innocence in all this bickering. There is a strain of self importance that cannot be compared today to what I call toxic narcissm.
Self pride perhaps, a belief in themselves for having survived, or maybe just the romanticism of an age.
Very interesting
Thank you!
Have always been interested in Custer. Have come to think he was more good then bad. Thanks for video like this. Well done.
I do think a lot of negative moments in US dealings with Native Americans gets unfairly pinned on him. He was flawed, but not nearly as wicked as he is portrayed these days.
Thank you for the kind words, Jay! I am grateful that you took the time to watch and comment.
@@SiobhanFallon7 I am part Indian and European so I look at both sides. I see how we treated the Indian scouts as bad. I however don't overlook like many that the Indians killed each other for land , kept slaves and broke treaties. History is much more complicated then white man evil. I admire the fact you show both sides with honesty and thought. I'm also glad to see you have done many videos so I will enjoy that! Can't say I'm a big fan of Benteen however......haha.
@@jayledermann7701 thank you. I think you and I are are in the same boat. I try to see the spectrum of good and bad, and that they were all humans just trying to live and feed their families, and do whatever it took to do that and remain a respected part of their own society if they could. Curious to hear more from you, Jay! Thanks for your insightful comments.
And ha ha ha, yes, Benteen is a bit prickly ;)
100 percent more good than bad. He went to that village to save a young boy and woman. They were both murdered before they could be saved by black kettles wives.
@@wilmoney4619 interesting that you say that. I don't think Custer knew the Blinns were in Black Kettle's village when he attacked.
BUT he would know that two white women hostages were being held later in the village of Stone Forehead/ Medicine Arrow. And Custer approached that 'fight' completely differently. I think because he did not want the same fate to befall those two girls. So Clara and Willie would ultimately save the lives of Anna Brewster Morgan and Sarah White. My next installment will look into that.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting, Wil!
Hi Siobhan, I'm new to your channel. It's great. I especially love your maps and how you explain them. I wonder if you can help me with this? Why are Native American horses always referred to as "ponies"? In England and Australia, an equine (to use a neutral term) is a pony if it is 14.2 hands or less and 14.3 and above is a 'horse. In most of the pictures of Native American's on animals are definitely taller than 14.2, so they should be called 'horses'. I'm also curious as to why an attack on a sleeping camp is called a "Battle"? It just doesn't seem like a battle. Kind regards.
Hello there! Thanks for the kind words!
Here is a great rundown from a friend of mine who knows horses well:
"In the USA the measuring standard is the same- under 14.3 is a pony, over is considered a horse. Those are primarily needed for showing purposes and each animal would have a card to prove their ‘pony’ status. Within that division, there are sub-categories of small, medium and large ponies. Probably every Indian pony was at least a large. I’m sure many of them may have technically measured as ‘ horses’ but in general they were smaller things than cavalry horses, which were mostly around 15-15.2. Just like humans, they weren’t as big back then and big horses wouldn’t have done well physically on the plains .
I’m attaching a picture of my last horse who was 18.1 hands and a large pony who was 13.3-14 hands. Guess who would survive the Black Hills Expedition and the winter in S. Dakota…"
I like the Pawnees. They get a bad rap but they were no worse than others
I could probably listen to you read a phone book and be entertained
Ha! You're wonderful! Thank you 🙏
@@SiobhanFallon7 how could I persuade you to autograph a baseball? I would love it!!
@@jmhproductions7335 I have signed a lot of books, but never a baseball! 🤣💕
Great job with the Washita. I wonder why none of the Native American accounts Mention the beautiful calls and the sound of the band. These were mentioned by several accounts of this battle by the soldiers. Those who were involved that is. If you've ever tried to play a band instrumental in sub-freezing weather, you know But it's like looking at flagpole in the dead of winner. Couldn't be there was no band? And what does that say about Those accounts?
The Cheyenne war parties truly had no idea that the atrocities they committed against civilians would be bring the wrath of the powerful US Army down upon them. General Sheridan was the primary figure in these campaigns and his contempt toward the Native American was quite possibly unsurpassed. Lt. Col. Custer was both his trusted friend and subordinate; and it's almost a guarantee that Sheridan told him simply "Go deal with it and make your own calls." It was certainly no peacekeeping mission. Due to this, I am puzzled as to why Sheridan condemned the actions of Custer, following the disaster at the Little Bighorn?
Good points, Kevin.
I imagine seeing the fall out and public shock, grief, and out cry over Custer's death made the Army decide to pull together and cover any of their own complicity. Easy to blame Custer and his "rashness" then to reveal that Gibbon's column had seen Indian braves countless times on this campaign and done nothing, Crook had retreated and regrouped for much longer than he should have (and didn't try to get word to Terry) and then Terry and Gibbon got lost going to the Little Bighorn on their supposed meet-up with Custer.
Custer was dead and could not defend his actions, and the living used this to their best advantage, as human beings usually do 🤷🏼♀️
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It doesn’t matter how this whole situation was whitewashed, the white peoples stole Native Americans land, culture, and way of life. Myself being part “Indian” can relate to the destruction and grief that these poor souls had to suffer through! Thank you for your outstanding presentation once again.
Good video thanks.
Why, thank you!!
Mrs Fallon, what is your opinion of General Custer, and was he responsible for the defeat at LBH ?
Hi there, Steven. Thanks for your comment. But I feel like I can't give you a complete answer to that question in a simple response here. There were many factors at play that day, and many human beings making choices, some good, some bad. One day, when I am confident, I will put together a presentation on the Little Bighorn. But I feel like I still have so much to learn! 🙏
Almost 1869, so only a few months before the Dog Soldiers got trounced at Summit Springs.
Ps. I was under the impression that Comstock and Grover were leaving Turkey Leg's camp when they were supposedly set upon.
Yes, Summit Springs would be one of the last Dog Solider fights.
15000 miles?
No, definitely an unnecessary zero there I didn't notice til after it posted 🤦🏼♀️
Battle ?
HI there, Robert. Here is a series that tries to illustrate the ongoing conflicts between the Southern Cheyenne and the U.S. Army... Thank you!
ua-cam.com/play/PLHfg6vohewsz_5UUQNdUfwYvWa5jP_3Jn.html
Chivington lost 25 kia and 51 wounded, it was not an easy fight. He attacked because the Indians had left the reservation to raid. Over a 100 settlers were killed.
Thanks so much for pointing that out. Even Sand Creek had a reason, whatever we may think of Chivington's actions today. Greg Michno has a great book, I think it is called the Three Battles of Sand Creek, that traces the history before, during, and after that conflict.
Thanks again for those details and the reminder of losses on all sides.
Did she say 15,000 miles ???
I did! Thanks for catching the mistake!
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Thank you!
Was "Washita" yet another Custer-massacre or was it a fair battle?
@reuterromain1054 Hi there. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
I think this video series tries to figure out the Battle. There's a Part 2 as well
By "yet another Custer massacre"-- what others are you talking about?
More like 1500 miles away
Yup. My mistake! Others have pointed it out too. 😬🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@SiobhanFallon7 It’s a great video though.I noticed that too after I already posted it.
@jessejames9245 thank you!!! I always manage a few mistakes!! I'm a terrible public speaker and making these videos have helped me. But I still manage to misread or misquote things ALL THE TIME 🤦🏼♀️🤣
The prevailing thought I have is: Why didn't North American "natives" invent the steam engine. Or telegraph. Or the wheel?
Because they were destined for relegation to the past.
Stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Outside influences happen.
Just like the Chinese influence on the biden "admin"😂.
The Cheyenne had farmed earlier in their history but gladly given it up for horses and a nomadic life. And they did want the technology (guns) that made them more lethal warriors.
I don't know enough nuance about their society, but yes, I agree with you that there was no way the Plains people could win in a war against the massive quantity of human beings who were streaming West, human beings who brought with them the combined technology of European/Western power at that time.
Not a battle but a massacre. attack of a non hostile village.
If Custer loses men ( Elliot detachment) is only by his fault.. I think it's not because the us have casualties that mean it was a battle and not a massacre.
Same thing with Woonded knee.
Did you watch the video?
This was NOT a battle! Custer attacked a village of Cheyenne who were peaceful. Most Indians killed were women and children. Ha abandoned part of his command who were wiped out. Why do people admire this mam?
Did you get a chance to watch the video? I address many of those issues in both Washita Part I and Part II. I'd love to hear your feedback! Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts here!
jac, U are mistaken. :)