The fact that this wins through traditional combat damage is huge for me personally. Not a fan of piloting naus, food chain, or storm decks, I just wanna swing out at people under a bunch of protection. Definitely going to be playing this a ton.
That's quite interesting. I've been play selesnya for probably 10 years and its a joy to see a gw doing well. still don't compare to the grixis pile in terms of printing - quality cards - but we can see a improvement with cards such as kutzil, sigarda, dauntless, ranger of eos, boromir etc. I hope selesnya becomes the guild of the silence - if you know what i mean - in terms of effect Congrats! This guy should play with you and pontus, Mons. It would be so cool to watch it!
I know that Spyzer guy, really smart and fun to play with! Although I would like to call him out on a recent game we played where I beat him by basically playing Inalla as a midrange deck, ending the game with a Mount Doom activation.
I think we need to be looking at Kutzil as a cedh deck. Grand abolisher + card draw (even tho there’s a small hurdle you have to jump thru) in the command zone seems pretty good.
Made a more budget version of Ellivere cause I can't get the expensive fast rocks yet but I must say Doorkeeper Thrull from Karlov Manor does work in the deck.
Very unique deck, I still cannot imagine how this deck is able to even compete against other decks in Cedh. The deck seems good for higher power edh only so I'm suprised it can play in Cedh
Yeah I feel like this is an honest take. However, cedh is a spectrum of decks, not just the top 10 performers. I'd put this at the edge of the spectrum between cedh and high power (probably leaning toward high power). It will catch people off guard if they don't know how to deal with it and will rely on very aggressive mulligans when going against decks with faster clocks to get the necessary disruptive pieces down in the first few turns.
ive played against this man. this deck is brutal. t1 root maze followed by serra ascendant just smashing face repeatedly. the deck is very oppressive and easy to underestimate
I wanna mention something easy to miss; while a low win % is obv bad, we don’t want to sorta “count it twice” by then looking at a high draw % as being worse. Whatever the given win rate is, it’s better to have a high draw % than a low draw %. For any two decks w the same win rate, the one w the higher draw % is doing better not worse. Subtle and maybe obvious but I think it’s an easy thing to sorta miss.
I'm a little surprised Mons doesn't account for this by doing a cumulative win/draw rate by adding 1/4th of the draw rate to the win rate. This gives a better perspective on how the deck is doing as the average win/draw rate will always be exactly 25%.
I played them in mine. I actually had some problems with the ones outside of deafening silence. We draw so much cards that it is hard to empty your hand.
The fact that this wins through traditional combat damage is huge for me personally. Not a fan of piloting naus, food chain, or storm decks, I just wanna swing out at people under a bunch of protection. Definitely going to be playing this a ton.
We should get Spyzer on a gameplay video to showcase the deck. I would really like to see it played by its creator.
He’s alright I’ve played better ellivere players. He’s too easy to read especially when I play sisay against him
@@JohnnyEllington11 damn omg youre soo good and cool
That's quite interesting. I've been play selesnya for probably 10 years and its a joy to see a gw doing well. still don't compare to the grixis pile in terms of printing - quality cards - but we can see a improvement with cards such as kutzil, sigarda, dauntless, ranger of eos, boromir etc. I hope selesnya becomes the guild of the silence - if you know what i mean - in terms of effect
Congrats!
This guy should play with you and pontus, Mons. It would be so cool to watch it!
I know that Spyzer guy, really smart and fun to play with! Although I would like to call him out on a recent game we played where I beat him by basically playing Inalla as a midrange deck, ending the game with a Mount Doom activation.
Spyzer64 well done brother you did it, all that work has paid off brother
I think we need to be looking at Kutzil as a cedh deck. Grand abolisher + card draw (even tho there’s a small hurdle you have to jump thru) in the command zone seems pretty good.
Yes, let's see it play!
It's actually harder to make work than you think, I have tried it and I have a list, but I think Ellie is WAYYYYYY better
this deck got greatly benefited of people running less and less boardwipes, great timing to use ellivere in tournaments!
Yeah there arent that many of those these days. I have to agree.
We in the Conclave Discord were cheering Spyzer on when they were playing in the event they top 16d.
Very interesting take on a cEDH deck. Could you update the description with the deck list link?
Fixed. www.moxfield.com/decks/T9MLVqc49USBFE5g3iuzmQ
Haywire mite that cant sac itself still carries a role. Deck is really interesting and enjoyed the video.
Love this and the fact it came in a precon. Goes along with my winota and my grixis pirates. Off meta lets go
I was just thinking of building this yesterday, perfect timing!
I can read your mind.
Made a more budget version of Ellivere cause I can't get the expensive fast rocks yet but I must say Doorkeeper Thrull from Karlov Manor does work in the deck.
Very unique deck, I still cannot imagine how this deck is able to even compete against other decks in Cedh. The deck seems good for higher power edh only so I'm suprised it can play in Cedh
Yeah I feel like this is an honest take. However, cedh is a spectrum of decks, not just the top 10 performers. I'd put this at the edge of the spectrum between cedh and high power (probably leaning toward high power). It will catch people off guard if they don't know how to deal with it and will rely on very aggressive mulligans when going against decks with faster clocks to get the necessary disruptive pieces down in the first few turns.
ive played against this man. this deck is brutal. t1 root maze followed by serra ascendant just smashing face repeatedly. the deck is very oppressive and easy to underestimate
That opener would hurt!
Torpor orb could also be an option for come to the battlefield triggers
It is definatly an option. But I don't think you need all of them.
The other options are better in this case because they advance our board state naturally as well. Ellivere doesn't synergize well with artifacts.
This list is hot 🔥
no it is sans red :P
Thank you for video!
Are there any plans to create a video on Tatyova?
not at the moment sorry.
Heads-up: The discord link is wrong, it's the same link as the one for the decklist.
Great video btw!
fixed. thanks. discord.gg/kyGpWV4c38
I wanna mention something easy to miss; while a low win % is obv bad, we don’t want to sorta “count it twice” by then looking at a high draw % as being worse. Whatever the given win rate is, it’s better to have a high draw % than a low draw %.
For any two decks w the same win rate, the one w the higher draw % is doing better not worse.
Subtle and maybe obvious but I think it’s an easy thing to sorta miss.
I'm a little surprised Mons doesn't account for this by doing a cumulative win/draw rate by adding 1/4th of the draw rate to the win rate. This gives a better perspective on how the deck is doing as the average win/draw rate will always be exactly 25%.
So could this list also works with more enchantments?
Shout out to Spyzer, you are disgusting to play against(in a good way)❤
everyone hats to play vs stax.
i completely agree hate playing against this deck but so fun to watch him play this cant count how many times he beat me with this deck
What You think about playing ROL effects in this deck?
I played them in mine. I actually had some problems with the ones outside of deafening silence. We draw so much cards that it is hard to empty your hand.
Hence why I only ran 2 (blind + Archon of Emeria) in the deck, that way we can continue to ramp out and drop bomb after bomb
@@cedhtv oh i see... The hand factor is something to consider...
How high is the winrate?
17% winrate currently.
@@cedhtv is this ok?