Try a Sprindex adjustable coil on the fly. Adds a little weight but gives you the ability to adjust on the trail. Best of both world. Also, not all coil shocks are equal, massive difference on top end ones.
This was super fun to watch guys, so well made and really interesting. We are stoked you like using our Ultimate Chin Mount. Those years of development paid off 🙌
Great review, I have both those shocks for my Thok TK01R and ironically concurred exactly the same as you . I do run the heavier spring than you did but even then found on pure rough rock gardens with drops it would bottom out. That said I'm not tempted to go up to the heaviest spring as I'm only 80kgs and feel it would be to sharp / spiky . In essence I've opted to keep the coil mounted all of the time it now. My Thok has a linear designed linkage system which also makes it push through the stroke quicker where as your Vitus has the progressive linkage, if only there was another in-between spring rate to only slightly increase the support !
I went to air from warranty and I don't think id go back. You just get loads more support with it on the ebike. Gone float x2 now and it's banging. Feels better at everything over the coil.
Lol, I did the exact opposite. Went from the float x to the rockshox ultimate coil with hydraulic bottom out and it was 10 times better and I spent alot of time tuning the air shock . I love the hydraulic bottom out.
Much prefer the coil personally, especially on rough terrain but I’m no expert, great vid Alex very insightful and interesting to see a comparison. Happy Christmas 🎄
Great video cheers, I've always had a coil shock and always wondered wot an air shock would be like, now from wot your saying and my riding style, Al stick to a coil shock, I'm not a big jumper, if a jumper at all and I'm not one for high speed trails, so definitely a coil for me although a bike mechanic once said to me, my saracen raw2 would be brilliant with an air shock, mmm now after this video I'm glad I didn't get an air shock but my raw2 will be retired shortly, once I've got a 2021 vitus 👍
Pretty much irrelevant, giving that you had the wrong spring rate. Good vid non the less. Do it again at Descend please! Good to see you struggling on certain features that a lot of folk mention at Descend. Wish the builders/owners would listen to the riders. 👍🏻
Good video, what kind of coil shock setup shimstacks tune do you have for your normal enduro, I have the Vitus sommet 29nr and looking for a good coilshock to fit my bike
Great vid. Just bought a DVO Jade myself and deciding on spring rates and will be swapping between my trek slash and rail so will presumably need 2 springs (1 for the ebike). How much do you weigh out of interest?, I am 73kg
Good choice! I'm about 80kg - the spring is a DVO spring 425 - 500lb However, this is too light (as I found out in this test) for an E-Bike - which I was expecting. The spring is perfect on my Enduro bike. But for an E-Bike, I definitely need something a little stiffer.
is it worth buying a coil shock for a bike park i now use air and that is great for jumps but in leogang the shock got very hot and did not work very well
Guess that’s a personal thing - I would say yes, however, some people would prefer the air shock due to its adjustability and getting the bike to sit higher in the travel for jumps etc - that’s my thought anyway
You must do the test again with a better spring. I am sure the coil will perform well.
Really great idea testing air v coil 🤘
Try MegNeg on Air shock, it does all, gives more sensitivity and more mid support. Got one myself and can't believe how good it is.
Try a Sprindex adjustable coil on the fly. Adds a little weight but gives you the ability to adjust on the trail. Best of both world. Also, not all coil shocks are equal, massive difference on top end ones.
Yeah, I should give the Sprindex spring a go. Heard it’s an interesting piece of kit
Think you should do another review with the correct pound coil
Thanks Nigel, that's the plan - realised this shortly after filming.
This was super fun to watch guys, so well made and really interesting. We are stoked you like using our Ultimate Chin Mount. Those years of development paid off 🙌
I have both but always use my coil; jade with a sprindex adjustable coil. Bloody love it 👍
Nice with a comparison but maybe do it again with a stiffer spring?
That's the plan - realised this shortly after filming.
@@wolfpack_adventures Looking forward to it :)
Great review, I have both those shocks for my Thok TK01R and ironically concurred exactly the same as you . I do run the heavier spring than you did but even then found on pure rough rock gardens with drops it would bottom out. That said I'm not tempted to go up to the heaviest spring as I'm only 80kgs and feel it would be to sharp / spiky . In essence I've opted to keep the coil mounted all of the time it now. My Thok has a linear designed linkage system which also makes it push through the stroke quicker where as your Vitus has the progressive linkage, if only there was another in-between spring rate to only slightly increase the support !
Progressive spring
@@st1ffee yes it’s on it ✅
I went to air from warranty and I don't think id go back. You just get loads more support with it on the ebike. Gone float x2 now and it's banging. Feels better at everything over the coil.
Nice!
Lol, I did the exact opposite. Went from the float x to the rockshox ultimate coil with hydraulic bottom out and it was 10 times better and I spent alot of time tuning the air shock . I love the hydraulic bottom out.
Great video, love Hamsterly, not rode Danny's decent park yet. May have to go back to a coil now
Descend Bike Park is class! Well worth a visit
Much prefer the coil personally, especially on rough terrain but I’m no expert, great vid Alex very insightful and interesting to see a comparison. Happy Christmas 🎄
Great video cheers, I've always had a coil shock and always wondered wot an air shock would be like, now from wot your saying and my riding style, Al stick to a coil shock, I'm not a big jumper, if a jumper at all and I'm not one for high speed trails, so definitely a coil for me although a bike mechanic once said to me, my saracen raw2 would be brilliant with an air shock, mmm now after this video I'm glad I didn't get an air shock but my raw2 will be retired shortly, once I've got a 2021 vitus 👍
I’ve always preferred coil over air -
I run dvo onyx upfront and a dvo topaz on the back n its been the best set up ive had so far n ive still not got it fully dialed into how i like it
Awesome to hear - I can't wait to try the DVO fork, if it's as good as this rear shock has been, I'm excited!
Awesome video!!!! Love the adjustment of air, but the feel of coil 🙌
for races you should have coil and air and depending on the track, tune the bike accordingly...
Interesting but, would like to see more of a cross country ride instead of a park session. Gutsy jumping on an eMTB though
Good to see you at my local and bumping into Mr Tatton #camerainthewoods, I would never ride my E down decent
Great to meet you - Descend is a great Bike Park! Definitely will be going back - you can get so many runs in on the E-Bike!
Damn Alex you are FAST!!! Great video as always guys 😍
Pretty much irrelevant, giving that you had the wrong spring rate. Good vid non the less. Do it again at Descend please! Good to see you struggling on certain features that a lot of folk mention at Descend. Wish the builders/owners would listen to the riders. 👍🏻
Thanks for the feedback, yes stiffer spring is needed. The bigger jump in this video, is this the 'certain feature' you are referring to?
Good video, what kind of coil shock setup shimstacks tune do you have for your normal enduro, I have the Vitus sommet 29nr and looking for a good coilshock to fit my bike
Any update on the coil, did you find the right spring rate?
Shame you didn’t have a firmer spring. I use a 600 on my ebike and I only weigh 71kg
Great vid. Just bought a DVO Jade myself and deciding on spring rates and will be swapping between my trek slash and rail so will presumably need 2 springs (1 for the ebike). How much do you weigh out of interest?, I am 73kg
Good choice!
I'm about 80kg - the spring is a DVO spring 425 - 500lb
However, this is too light (as I found out in this test) for an E-Bike - which I was expecting.
The spring is perfect on my Enduro bike.
But for an E-Bike, I definitely need something a little stiffer.
@@wolfpack_adventures Think i will try the 425-500 on my rail and the lighter one onmy slash,. Happy Christmas!
is it worth buying a coil shock for a bike park i now use air and that is great for jumps but in leogang the shock got very hot and did not work very well
Guess that’s a personal thing - I would say yes, however, some people would prefer the air shock due to its adjustability and getting the bike to sit higher in the travel for jumps etc - that’s my thought anyway
What sag/ pressure did you run on the air shock?
Whats the size of the coil shock?
205mm x 62.5mm
Do you know what size I need for a 2021 Sommet CRX 29
Size Spring or Shock?
@@wolfpack_adventures Shock, on my previous bike I did a 550 pound spring
@@trailpimp6369 205 x 65
£30 for that mount 🤯
I used a tie wrap.
£30 for an innovative mount that holds a £350 camera seems pretty good
It's less than £30 if you use my discount code ;)
@@wolfpack_adventures haha I knew that was coming 😂 Not hating by the way, just seems a little excessive for what it is. 👍🏼
@@TomHolderPPC all bike stuff is expensive for what it is.
You can see the air shock is better