This will be super parasocial of me, Twitch definitely offer to resign her contract but poki always talk about moving on from streaming. The first to leave otv house and then graduated from otv. Without contract she could stream less hour.
Didn't Toast move out before Poki did? I remember it was a big deal for them at the time although he downplayed it publicly, him then being separated from them during the early stricter Cali lockdowns led to him eventually moving back in with them.
@@juanlazy7949 That was a year later in Canada. He moved out months earlier into his own apartment in LA, when Michael joined he briefly stayed in Toast's vacant room before they moved to a new house.
I think just in general twitch is done with big contracts. Theyve been struggling with profitability for a while and i think theyve just decided that these big exclusivity contracts just arent worth it so once all these current ones run out, theyll just have people on partner deals
Prediction: After this contract with Twitch is officially over (if that's now or later) I bet Twitch gets in trouble with Poki for using her likeness in marketing. Wether that's advertisements, banners at conventions, merch, Twitch ads, whatever. I bet Twitch cannot HELP itself and will try and get away with using their former golden goose somewhere they're not supposed to and it catches up with them.
It's honorable that Poki came to Queen Rae 👑 for advice on YT, because this is the kingdom of Valkyrae, and the Queen's legions are strapped and ready for any smoke.
they are still giving out exclusive contracts they just arent BIG, they aren't going to offer millions. youtube is doing the same, Rae Courage Lupo Ludwig all got way smaller contracts that are only 1 year instead of 2 like they have been.
@@sup69420 UA-cam also said to ludwig it was the last year they're gonna do contracts (at least for him, and sjnxe he's their golden boy he said its most likely for everyone as well, just no contracts anymore in general after this year) I think twitch and UA-cam just realized how much money it was costing them for not necessarily a whole lot of gain. It made sense when UA-cam was just starting out as a live streaming platform and wanted to get their name out there and attract more streamers, but now that they're established it doesn't make sense really, especially when twitch doesn't want to be paying out these multimillion dollar contracts either. No need to spend all that money to get creators to stream, they just need to create a good enough platform and tools to allow streamers to do so. I think they realized that so they're moving away from the expensive exclusive contracts
Poki isn't just streaming on UA-cam ONLY now, you guys. She said that she wants to be more lenient and try whatever platform she wants. She even said that she likes how when you stream on UA-cam you're mainly streaming to your community. She wants to try a bit of YT, a bit of TikTok, because her contract limited her to ONLY Twitch. She's still be on Twitch and do some lives there as well. She's doing her 1st stream on UA-cam today (February 1st) at 12pm PST. Show her some love😊🩷🤎.
Damn, y'all really can't think for yourselves 💀 Streaming isn't her only revenue, and there are other ways to gain money business wise. She doesn't need to do anything to be relevant whether it be bad or good publicity. Y'all being here for this vid and commenting already proves she's relevant enough 😂😭
true, Poki’s impact on the streaming industry has never been outdone by any female streamer, other than Rae.. the closest to them are only Ironmouse & Emiru.
she probably got investments and is earning millions from that as well so idk why people are insinuating she's only after money, she's not signing with a streaming platform
Apparently Twitch doesn't do contacts anymore. She already talked badly about kick and UA-cam openly so she's not getting an offer from them either. She especially talked badly about kick so she's just gonna stream with no contact on UA-cam now
@@aa_001 UA-cam has also stopped giving contracts. According to Lud his latest is his last and no more re-signing. I bet it is the same with Rae with her last renewal. Im just curious since Rae said Twitch offered her something that made her think twice before resigning with UA-cam. I think she was still offered with something but not big enough as before.
I feel like it’s because they are both alpha females (both have strong personalities) whereas miyoung is kind of introverted that’s why they bond well together
They're both Queens but from different kingdoms. Unfortunately for her, this kingdom is only big enough for Queen Rae 👑 The Queen will deny this, of course, as humble as she is, bless her soul - but her legions understand the concept of plausible deniability.
they are mostly co workers within the same over all "friend group" but there are 3 smaller friend groups within the larger one and they are not in the same smaller group (Otv + Jodi friend group/the roomie's/then like Janet Poki Aria Jaime etc) not to mention they both dated the same guy who Valkyrae is currently dating Hasan D Piker aka Hasanabi Poki dated him back in 2019 for like 9 months. There was a few times where Poki kind of threw shade on Valkyrae when she signed with UA-cam and again when she had her reflect scam a lot of Otv defended Valkyrae or gave their opinions on stream while Poki was acting kinda shady towards Valkyrae and if iirc Valkyrae mentioned Poki never reached out to her personally. but seems for the most part they are past that pettyness but when they interact its very dry and easy to tell they are not very close with each other.
Its actually ironic because when the twitch streamers income got leaked, Poki shaded Rae when Rae tweeted “UA-cam search for a new streamers to signed” and Poki said in her own stream “Did u guys look at Rae tweet Ofc UA-cam search for a new streamer they only have 3 and a half streamers there” now look at her streaming on youtube without a contract from youtube and not only that she left with no contract offer from any platforms lol not even twitch handling contract anymore, now she licking her own spit and wanna stream on youtube with youtube streamer on her team vs twitch streamer playing competitive games😂 lol IRONIC
Dude, you're weird. Why did you take something that was a joke so serious? Also a lot of veteran streamers are planning to multi stream. Pokimane is much bigger in business outside of streaming Like streaming is a hobby for her lol.
@@belleslovinit3848well whatever u wanna call it “jOkE” im calling it Shade, but u missing my point that is IT IS IRONIC BECAUSE THAT WAS HER COMMENT BACK IN THE DAY WHERE RAE JUST ANNOUNCE THAT YT WANNA FIND MORE STREAMER TO SIGNED, and now look at her.
Well, atleast this is why u can see Rae and Ray Mond are two different individuals. Because if it was Ray Mond, Poki is already swimming in the lava. 😂
The thing with poki is while her twitch numbers don't seem super high her other socials like twitter and insta have crazy traffic. Like her twitter engagement is always around 500k+ so she as a brand is still really good.
Her youtube videos (both in the pokimane and imane channels) are doing good. Anyways, youtube contract is usually fixed. From what I am hearing from Rae, Lud, and Leslie, they just have to meet the agreed number of streaming hours and they’re paid the agreed amount of money regardless of the number of views
I kinda don't think she got paid tbh. Twitch had slowly been getting less toxic, especially towards women, but the past year has been quite bad imo. I kinda think it might be that? idk, im not a Poki viewer tho.
She's not signed to UA-cam either, she doesn't want to be tied into a contract. Expecting her to do streams on twitch and potentially Instagram and tiktok as well as UA-cam. She does so much outside of streaming and wants to do more so not having an hours obligation works well for her, especially since at her size she doesn't get much benefit from being contracted with them.
Sadly I think Poki has soured the pot way to often to ever get back as big as she used to be. Her first stream might break 10k but the rest will average about 4k if that. Which is still really good but compared to the crazy numbers she had before... when her b day brought over 100k... so on... I think it might be over for her in that sense. She also streams very rarely and people just don't know she's streaming as well. I think what actually happened is that poki asked for twitch deal and Dan said no, we don't do that anymore which I think is a good thing for twitch to be fair.
The thing I know she said was that she would never leave Twitch for Kick. She wasn't saying she would never leave Twitch. It was more so she would never go to Kick. If she did say she would never leave Twitch on a separate occasion then I stand corrected.
she is averaging 10k viewers in twitch, while Rae can reach up to 19k to 20k. Her twitch account is dying that's why twitch didn't give her a good deal to re-signed, now she's trying yt.
i feel like poki only did this because she was starting to fall off on twitch with her taking a step back and all her past streams are her trying games that are in the meta so she can stay relevant shes tried gta rp when she only ever tries it once every new drop then tries palworld like 2 or 3 times usually to promote her podcast LOL and she did this and tied it in with a podcast LOL all so she gets clout on twitter and ppl listen to her podcast everything she does is calculated and to gain more clout and stay relevant when she doesn't even put in the world... she took time off to create a podcast and come out with a white label cookie to make some easy money off her brain washed fanbase even after she shits on them calling them broke the very same people who got her to where she is today.. LOL hella out of touch
well pokis first youtube stream with all that marketing and hype she did... peaked at 8k viewers. Rae gets that playing boring valorant and gets double sometimes triple with gta, lethal company, etc. poki fell off harder than we thought cuz her views will probably be 3-4k in a week.
Its funny I remember poki joking about yt streamers 😭
Yep. It seemed catty to me. But Rae is always so classy.
I was about to comment the exact same thing bc I remember her shading Sykkuno over his move to YT and now here we are 🤣
poki's personality is to poke fun, that's just how she rolls. it's not that serious cause they are all friends
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You just said joking? so why's it being taken so seriously lol
This will be super parasocial of me, Twitch definitely offer to resign her contract but poki always talk about moving on from streaming. The first to leave otv house and then graduated from otv. Without contract she could stream less hour.
Didn't Toast move out before Poki did? I remember it was a big deal for them at the time although he downplayed it publicly, him then being separated from them during the early stricter Cali lockdowns led to him eventually moving back in with them.
@@alexle6105I think his dad got sick and wanted to take care of him and spend more time with him that’s why he initially left the house
@@juanlazy7949 That was a year later in Canada. He moved out months earlier into his own apartment in LA, when Michael joined he briefly stayed in Toast's vacant room before they moved to a new house.
I think just in general twitch is done with big contracts. Theyve been struggling with profitability for a while and i think theyve just decided that these big exclusivity contracts just arent worth it so once all these current ones run out, theyll just have people on partner deals
LMAO i fkn called it, ppl were saying kick and i was like “damn why we lying on poki’s name rn”
RAE❤❤❤
Prediction: After this contract with Twitch is officially over (if that's now or later) I bet Twitch gets in trouble with Poki for using her likeness in marketing. Wether that's advertisements, banners at conventions, merch, Twitch ads, whatever. I bet Twitch cannot HELP itself and will try and get away with using their former golden goose somewhere they're not supposed to and it catches up with them.
it's so different from twitch man ongod
It's honorable that Poki came to Queen Rae 👑 for advice on YT, because this is the kingdom of Valkyrae, and the Queen's legions are strapped and ready for any smoke.
It's weird because I came from youtube to twitch to youtube live
I like words ngl
I leak nothing! -Valkyrae
She kills, don't accuse her of anything. lol
Nice of her for preparing her streaming sister for UA-cam!
I thought that twitch wasn't giving big contracts anymore. So where's the choosing to not re-signing coming from ??
they are still giving out exclusive contracts they just arent BIG, they aren't going to offer millions. youtube is doing the same, Rae Courage Lupo Ludwig all got way smaller contracts that are only 1 year instead of 2 like they have been.
@@sup69420 UA-cam also said to ludwig it was the last year they're gonna do contracts (at least for him, and sjnxe he's their golden boy he said its most likely for everyone as well, just no contracts anymore in general after this year)
I think twitch and UA-cam just realized how much money it was costing them for not necessarily a whole lot of gain. It made sense when UA-cam was just starting out as a live streaming platform and wanted to get their name out there and attract more streamers, but now that they're established it doesn't make sense really, especially when twitch doesn't want to be paying out these multimillion dollar contracts either. No need to spend all that money to get creators to stream, they just need to create a good enough platform and tools to allow streamers to do so. I think they realized that so they're moving away from the expensive exclusive contracts
@@dvargas3553 i ain't reading all that shit, who asked
@@sup69420 Joe did you illiterate moron
@@sup69420 Yea they got lucky and switched over early lol
wish she had the balls to play with packgod
how much poki trashed youtube to end up streaming on here now is too good
COOKIES MONSTER
Poki isn't just streaming on UA-cam ONLY now, you guys. She said that she wants to be more lenient and try whatever platform she wants. She even said that she likes how when you stream on UA-cam you're mainly streaming to your community. She wants to try a bit of YT, a bit of TikTok, because her contract limited her to ONLY Twitch. She's still be on Twitch and do some lives there as well.
She's doing her 1st stream on UA-cam today (February 1st) at 12pm PST. Show her some love😊🩷🤎.
Damn, y'all really can't think for yourselves 💀
Streaming isn't her only revenue, and there are other ways to gain money business wise. She doesn't need to do anything to be relevant whether it be bad or good publicity. Y'all being here for this vid and commenting already proves she's relevant enough 😂😭
true, Poki’s impact on the streaming industry has never been outdone by any female streamer, other than Rae.. the closest to them are only Ironmouse & Emiru.
she probably got investments and is earning millions from that as well so idk why people are insinuating she's only after money, she's not signing with a streaming platform
Twitch didn't offer her the amount that she wants simple as that.
Apparently Twitch doesn't do contacts anymore. She already talked badly about kick and UA-cam openly so she's not getting an offer from them either. She especially talked badly about kick so she's just gonna stream with no contact on UA-cam now
@@aa_001 UA-cam has also stopped giving contracts. According to Lud his latest is his last and no more re-signing. I bet it is the same with Rae with her last renewal. Im just curious since Rae said Twitch offered her something that made her think twice before resigning with UA-cam. I think she was still offered with something but not big enough as before.
@@churchpeopleworkerssolidar7347 oh wow I didn't know that and that makes me curious too now
Poki said she's not signing in with UA-cam either she can stream wherever she wants basically.
@@supersha yt is not signing any new streamer contracts now based on Ludwig's vod.
why do rae and poki talk to each other like they just met it's so awkward and weird how long have these two known each other?
They ate not that closed.
I feel like it’s because they are both alpha females (both have strong personalities) whereas miyoung is kind of introverted that’s why they bond well together
They're both Queens but from different kingdoms. Unfortunately for her, this kingdom is only big enough for Queen Rae 👑
The Queen will deny this, of course, as humble as she is, bless her soul - but her legions understand the concept of plausible deniability.
they are mostly co workers within the same over all "friend group" but there are 3 smaller friend groups within the larger one and they are not in the same smaller group (Otv + Jodi friend group/the roomie's/then like Janet Poki Aria Jaime etc) not to mention they both dated the same guy who Valkyrae is currently dating Hasan D Piker aka Hasanabi Poki dated him back in 2019 for like 9 months. There was a few times where Poki kind of threw shade on Valkyrae when she signed with UA-cam and again when she had her reflect scam a lot of Otv defended Valkyrae or gave their opinions on stream while Poki was acting kinda shady towards Valkyrae and if iirc Valkyrae mentioned Poki never reached out to her personally.
but seems for the most part they are past that pettyness but when they interact its very dry and easy to tell they are not very close with each other.
Y'all do know they lived together with a couple other friends during the pandemic, right?
Smart decision. Smart business woman.
oohh Poki on youtube streaming... ooohh what an irony..... She talked trash back then about youtube... hahaha
Truuuuuee
Its actually ironic because when the twitch streamers income got leaked, Poki shaded Rae when Rae tweeted “UA-cam search for a new streamers to signed” and Poki said in her own stream “Did u guys look at Rae tweet Ofc UA-cam search for a new streamer they only have 3 and a half streamers there” now look at her streaming on youtube without a contract from youtube and not only that she left with no contract offer from any platforms lol not even twitch handling contract anymore, now she licking her own spit and wanna stream on youtube with youtube streamer on her team vs twitch streamer playing competitive games😂 lol IRONIC
Dude, you're weird.
Why did you take something that was a joke so serious?
Also a lot of veteran streamers are planning to multi stream. Pokimane is much bigger in business outside of streaming
Like streaming is a hobby for her lol.
@@belleslovinit3848well whatever u wanna call it “jOkE” im calling it Shade, but u missing my point that is IT IS IRONIC BECAUSE THAT WAS HER COMMENT BACK IN THE DAY WHERE RAE JUST ANNOUNCE THAT YT WANNA FIND MORE STREAMER TO SIGNED, and now look at her.
Well, atleast this is why u can see Rae and Ray Mond are two different individuals. Because if it was Ray Mond, Poki is already swimming in the lava. 😂
@@belleslovinit3848 stop it , poki been throwing shade to Valk.
You're not wrong but it came out weird
Poki wasnt averaging more than 10k viewers on twitch . Dont think she'll do better on youtube
The thing with poki is while her twitch numbers don't seem super high her other socials like twitter and insta have crazy traffic. Like her twitter engagement is always around 500k+ so she as a brand is still really good.
A lot of traffic doesn't mean positive @@hyperlucario547
She partly retired from Twitch, that's why her viewership there was no longer that high
Her youtube videos (both in the pokimane and imane channels) are doing good. Anyways, youtube contract is usually fixed. From what I am hearing from Rae, Lud, and Leslie, they just have to meet the agreed number of streaming hours and they’re paid the agreed amount of money regardless of the number of views
She is boring@@juanlazy7949
Lmao of course it was UA-cam we’re else would she go twitch isn’t handing out contracts anymore
I kinda don't think she got paid tbh. Twitch had slowly been getting less toxic, especially towards women, but the past year has been quite bad imo. I kinda think it might be that? idk, im not a Poki viewer tho.
She's not signed to UA-cam either, she doesn't want to be tied into a contract. Expecting her to do streams on twitch and potentially Instagram and tiktok as well as UA-cam. She does so much outside of streaming and wants to do more so not having an hours obligation works well for her, especially since at her size she doesn't get much benefit from being contracted with them.
Wasn’t Poki shading streamers when they join UA-cam now she wants in wow ironic
She's not signing to it, so there's the difference
exactly LOL
You're a child
i mean, people can change their mind.
:Poggers: :OMEGALUL: :KekW:
Sadly I think Poki has soured the pot way to often to ever get back as big as she used to be. Her first stream might break 10k but the rest will average about 4k if that. Which is still really good but compared to the crazy numbers she had before... when her b day brought over 100k... so on... I think it might be over for her in that sense. She also streams very rarely and people just don't know she's streaming as well. I think what actually happened is that poki asked for twitch deal and Dan said no, we don't do that anymore which I think is a good thing for twitch to be fair.
Cookies monster throw shade at rae after rae move to yt. N she throw rae under the bus when rae congrats XQC FOR GETTING 100M KICK DEAL
Didn’t she say she would never make the switch? Must have been a good bag. Money talks even tho she says otherwise.
She is not streaming exclusively like Valky, Ludwig she said she wanna streaming and try other platforms
Everyone's decisions and perspectives changes as they go on through life it's not permanent.
neither twitch nor youtube are making new exclusive contracts, her twitch one ended so she's prob just trying it out and will be streaming on both.
She didn't get a bag at all, she specifically isn't signing a contract.
The thing I know she said was that she would never leave Twitch for Kick. She wasn't saying she would never leave Twitch. It was more so she would never go to Kick. If she did say she would never leave Twitch on a separate occasion then I stand corrected.
New queen of youtube pokimane
Nah valkyrae will always be the queen of UA-cam no one can replace her
@@Kai_801 queen poki!
she is averaging 10k viewers in twitch, while Rae can reach up to 19k to 20k. Her twitch account is dying that's why twitch didn't give her a good deal to re-signed, now she's trying yt.
Hopefully Poki retires!
Nah!
Valkyrae the snake dating Pokimane toxic ex boyfriend hasan 💀
LMAO
HUH
ouff the mental illness in this comment, please seek help
@@freezec8778 they clearly did. Hasan talked about their leaked valentines date in 2019.
lying? she literally got leaked on a valentines date with him. cope harder simp boy.@@freezec8778
i feel like poki only did this because she was starting to fall off on twitch with her taking a step back and all her past streams are her trying games that are in the meta so she can stay relevant shes tried gta rp when she only ever tries it once every new drop then tries palworld like 2 or 3 times usually to promote her podcast LOL and she did this and tied it in with a podcast LOL all so she gets clout on twitter and ppl listen to her podcast everything she does is calculated and to gain more clout and stay relevant when she doesn't even put in the world... she took time off to create a podcast and come out with a white label cookie to make some easy money off her brain washed fanbase even after she shits on them calling them broke the very same people who got her to where she is today.. LOL hella out of touch
This ^
this is so real, she fell off hard
well pokis first youtube stream with all that marketing and hype she did... peaked at 8k viewers. Rae gets that playing boring valorant and gets double sometimes triple with gta, lethal company, etc. poki fell off harder than we thought cuz her views will probably be 3-4k in a week.
exactlyyy i noticed that tooo@@sup69420