Melanie is 100 percent involved in all of it. She knew ahead of time what was going to happen and chose to keep her mouth shut! She knew they were going to kill Brandon., there is no way she didn't.
Facts and this idiot does not see he is being dragged in to this foolery. With his 🤬 self. Talking about went from beauty to the beast…. He probably never had someone look like Melanie smh some Brooke just dumb
You peops are missing the point...manipulation is something that isn't always recognizable when your in it...this is afyer the fact. . Melanie may have known more but she could be alot of things... She could be weak , a follower, too trusting, blinded by the religious jargon...? Who knows what she knew!!
IAN!! Maybe you will read this but..when a woman doesn’t have her young kids with her for days and leaves them behind to cast out dark spirits like your wife did that is a HUGE RED FLAG!!!!
TodY is May, 29. 2023 and a ton of texts were exposed ND lori was found guilty. I hope Ian has th e proof he needs to run from Melani, take your kids and file for custody, otherwise you will not have visitation or custody with your kids from your previous marriage.
@@marygroner9530 he hasnt even right to see his own kids from his previous marriage. He only has 1 kid with Melanie and supports her fully. So, he will not run anywhere.
We have to feel sorry for Ian...he had no idea. But, he has children with both former and previous wife so he has a real dilemma. There are laws about exposing children to dangerous circumstances but I don't know Idaho law. If Ian exposes any of those children to danger, they could press "Failure to Protect" against him.
Ian, please read: Next time you get married, wait a year or more after meeting them. This is the life you get with a 10-day courtship. Why didn't she tell you all her baggage the day BEFORE you got married instead of the day after? Because she wanted to sink her hooks in you before you could run. I've never seen so many gullible, naive people in one place. Dazed and confused.
YES! I married the best guy in the world after knowing each other only a year & thought I must be out of my mind. Been the best 6 years of my life since, and I guess I knew he was who I wanted to marry after 10 days but I had some investigating to do!
@@jeanie8831 They married quickly for the same reason any guy is willing to marry quickly. Their religion prevented them from doing what he wanted to do until being married.
@@Yourethebossapplesauce The point is that it's better than 10 days, and if he had waited a year he would have seen all the things he learned about AFTER the marriage & made an informed decision
"there's no shortage of people who want to abuse Melani or get something out of Melanie" Well there's certainly no shortage of people *NAMED MELANIE* who were perfectly fine with JJ and tylee being called dark zombies who clearly knew that they were innocent, trusting children whose lives were in grave DANGER. *AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PROTECT THEM* . But let's all listen to gas-lit hubby, pkay the world's tiniest violin for Lori Junior,. Sorry, I'm team Brandon the safety of his children.
Melanie’s mother is Loris sister who died without reason. Maybe someone should look into this death as well. That’s why Lori is kind of a mother for Melanie
I feel exactly the same. After listening to Lori's cousin talk about the whole thing last week, it stinks. Lori's mother and father were hell-bent on people believing it was suicide/ self-harm. When she was taken into hospital, none of them made the slightest attempt to come back from Hawaii, and guess who sounded the alarm...again.....Alex. Her parents said some really strange things too like "Stacey is always sick, maybe she shouldn't be on earth anymore". I mean, who in their right mind says that about their own daughter?!
The death of Lori’s older sister is also suspicious and appears to involve Alex again - listen the ‘Mormon Stories’ podcast featuring Lori’s cousin - it’s a fascinating account of the family and Lori’s sister’s premature death.
I do not believe Melanie did not know about the recorded conversations. With such knowledge she would be able to avoid incriminating herself - even if Ian’s intentions for LE were genuine. Then Ian and Melanie could go on with their lives and the divorce settlement unhindered. IMO.
As much as I totally do NOT trust Melani, I do belive she was manipulated somewhat by Lori. Melani is not the brightest crayon in the box if you know what I mean. Not to mention her utterly traumatic childhood. She is a lost soul. But she ALSO should be held accountable on some level.
and the fact he never sounds prepared. Gets medical info from watching movies, and more times than I can count, he responds to a witness’s answer with “interesting.” 🫣🤭
I felt sorry for the Alex Murdaugh Murder Jury but holy cow, these poor people are going to need PTSD assistance after this. This guy you don’t know what to think. 10 days was all he knew this woman and he married her? Good grief, run, Run Far Run Fast.
Raysha, you are thinking of the OTHER Melanie that is married to guy in Utah while she lives in Rexburg still I think. This Melanie and Ian are still together and live in AZ. He testified they drove up together on Monday
She was manipulated but fully into the circle of course. Even the hit man Alex had silently said to his wife day before his death that " I might only be the fall guy for them. Either I am man of the God or then I am not" Lori and Chad manipulated full on him to do the dirty job and make him the fall guy to who gets all the blame if they get arrested. And no matter how evil Alex was he believed 100% of Chad's teachings about 44 thousands and zombies and that In this life his mission is to protect his sister the 'goddes' Lori. So his wife testified In the court...
Why was Ian allowed to disclose that Melani violated the court order regarding testimony?? Why wasn't she made to take the stand and inform the judge herself she willingly disobeyed his direct order??
lori said she folded satan up like a taco and sent him to Antarctica. satan, taco & antarctica?? None of those words even belong in the same sentence? How did this women ever make it on the Wheel of Fortune? Yes Pat, i’ll take a W, a T & an F…
This guy's testimony stinks to high heaven. I initially had some sympathy for him a couple of years ago when it was revealed that he had worn a wire, but it's obvious from his "poor" memory and vague, almost argumentative attitude that he's just another one of the coven. Pretty disgusting that law enforcement is going so easy on him and his Las Vegas bride. After all, a man very nearly got his head shot off and at least four others were tragically murdered.
It actually seemed like he was being honest wether it sounded believable or not....lol how the hell you gonna remember every detail from 3 years ago? He wanted to find Tyler and Ryan and protect his wife and kids....maybe you should listen with your ears and not automatically judge.the defense sounds like an ass because he doesn't have much to argue about with Ian. Lori is done for and he knows it 😊
Sorry, but I stand with what I said. I do remember vitally important things that happen in my life, and I would darn sure remember anything that had to do with attempted murder and actual murder. It would be etched in my brain forever. But he's not the only one...these people who were close to Chad and Lori all seem to have very selective memory.
Why they married so fast?😱 specifically after a divorce?..I'm wondering if this happens because their religion? That they want to be intimate and they need to be married first?🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️..Dumb! Specifically if you coming from a divorce!!!..at least get so time to know the new person, and meet her/his family, and check the BACKGROUND!!🙃 Otherwise, You can be land in a huge messy criminal case, or in jail🤪🫣🥴
@@zetrei80 the 2 couples got married 1 day apart. Mel P & Ian married on 11/30/19 with Alex & Zulema as witnesses. And Alex & Zulema married the next day on 12/01/19, but Mel P & Ian did not witness or attend.
They married fast because JC was going to be arriving in 6 or 7 months, and you can't be a "super leader" without being married. It's a thing. Plus, technically having pre marital sex can get you exxed (unless you were married in a previous life, I guess). I know, I know, they won't have sex, but they will kill people? NO. They weren't killing people. They would say they were killing zombies. I trust I make myself clear as mud.
Actually he is good at it. His job is to make all the stateʻs witnesses and evidence look questionable. He needs to make the jury at least a little skeptical about what the state is presenting so that he can feed them reasonable doubt. He sounds like he knows nothing, but he knows exactly what he is doing.
@@kristinaadams7203 when have they made you question anyone? They way the handled Loris DNA evidence alone is enough to call it malpractice. They have made multiple errors in the way they’ve tried to counter evidence. I think she will get new representation at some point and ask for a new trial claiming her state appointed attorneys are incompetent and ill prepared.
@@davelynch1228 Well, getting a new lawyer and claiming misrepresentation would delay things, wouldn't it? Maybe that is the point. New trial would be a tactic too.
@Kristina Adams She would have to have the appellate court make a decision throughout her appeal process regarding Lori not receiving adequate representation.
Wait a minute!!!!….. so Chad and Lori said The SPECIFIC day Alex died for her to go somewhere safe because there would be an attack!!! So they killed Alex somehow (or Zulema did!). Zulema didn’t even want the cops in her home after Alex died. So many people are accomplices in these birders it’s insane.
I died too 😂! At least I got a little gem of a spell from this Shitshow! Get ready family members I can't stand...😌🙌🏻 I'm gonna break some backs with my Taco Fold! Lmfao 😂😂
You really should look up what is a priesthood blessing and how is it performed in the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It will give you some insight into how bizarre it is that they were flying around and doing them so often. For sure a form of manipulation and power over the people they were giving them to.
Its wild to me how people fall into these cults like this and let it consume their lives and identities like this. What is in the water in Arizona, Idaho and Utah man 😬
Satan thinks it’s his territory. There is nothing Christian about any of the Mormon religion. They have been brainwashed from birth and don’t know better. American government should have cleaned that up 200 years ago. The LDS church thinks it’s better than some of its offshoots but their doctrines about the Book of Mormon and heaven are not in the Bible. Sure there are good people in their ranks but they have ALL been lead astray of Christian churches. It’s really sad.
How can someone tell Melanie B., "divorce your husband" the father of their kids? 10 days, after, get married??? I wonder who and what type of people the two of them really are.
How did he not go to authorities, seeing this nonsense.! I hope going forward you listen to your intuition, Ian. It is evident in meeting with, someone. Perhaps he doesn't have the conscience, or, perhaps, he does and just listened to a beautiful "looking" person.
They needed their followers to continue marrying gullible people who they could later label as dark so they could caste out by murder and collect life insurance. It seems that they were pressuring their brain washed followers to share their fortunes with “the church”
So Melanie leaves her husband Brandon because he’s dark - probably pushed by Lori and Chad. Then she meets Ian - who doesn’t sound like a stupid man - marries her 10 days after meeting. Then Alex dies and a day or two later. But hey,, who cares? Lori and Chad were probably thinking Ian would be their new fixer! Their warrior! At least Ian wasn’t drawn in and brain-washed into believing the crap spewed by the dastardly duo. Is he still with the unstable and Melanie? Does he realize that he married Lori and Chad as well and would have been expected to believe and do anything they wanted him to? Ian dodged a bullet! And probably Melanie too if she started to doubt the crazy Lori.
@@angel83553 yeah. Even if she was ignorant about the conspiracies and it’s just because she’s embarrassed, it would be SO narcissistic to prioritize the comfort of her own ego above justice for everyone who has been horrifically murdered. Like if she really did watch trial footage on purpose I only see a bad reason and a worse reason. 1) she’s embarrassed and feels entitled to move on with her life without having to testify to her extreme devotion to her homicidal aunt. 2) consciousness of guilt.
No, she was also concerned for the kids, and had asked Ian what did he think? I believe at first she trusted Lorrie and Chad, so this is a revolution that must be painful for her!
@@desireedabdoub6124 I hope that did shock her back into reality, and I also hope she does have remorse for all the damage she has done. I hope that Brandon is able to find peace and security after the nightmare he has had to go through. The trauma of surviving a murder attempt must be very difficult. But thankfully it will be easier since Melanie’s divorce lawyers agreed to a negotiated settlement of $12 million to be paid to Brandon after they published vile and despicable slanderous statements made by Melanie as hard facts in order to try to get additional leverage for Melanie during the divorce. Turned out all those despicable claims about Brandon were ridiculous lies from Lori that she told Melanie had been relayed directly from Jesus. I think even that should disqualify Melanie from ever having more than supervised visitation with her children because she cannot ever be trusted enough not to make attempts at parental alienation and/or coaching abuse claims to try to wrestle custody away from Brandon.
@@desireedabdoub6124 I truly hope she was more of a blind follower than a co-conspirator, but I have my doubts. That said, I believe Lori would have eventually killed Melanie as more of a longterm game plan. It seems like every murder so far had some form of financial incentive to it. I’d guess after Melanie gave Lori the address of Brandon’s brand new home that Lori sent Alex after Brandon to kill him for the $12 million settlement he secured. But I imagine that money would have gone into a trust for his kids instead of straight to Melanie. But Melanie might have gotten full custody of the kids. And a witness from the other day testified that Melanie’s children were written after Brandon on the priority list of vessels of demonic entities that needed to be destroyed. So I can’t help but think at the very least Lori planned to murder Brandon to get the kids and their multi million dollar trust accounts into Melanie’s hands. Then maybe they’d try to restructure all the trusts and wills so if the kids die then the funds default to Melanie and then maybe Melanie would have made Lori the sole beneficiary of her will? Then Lori drops all the dominos and kills Brandon, then Melanie’s children, then Melanie, and then Lori gets what’s left of the $12 million after taxes and fees. I doubt it would have worked, but Murdaugh proved that manipulation can go a long way in defrauding settlements and trust accounts. With that much money Lori would have been able to make all her dreams come true. She and Chad could build their new church with doomsday prepper facilities underground and fund a marketing campaign to attract followers with Lori as the charismatic and “vivacious” star of all their commercials. It’s so scary to think about. I hope today Melanie is horrified that her children were on Lori’s list of demonic entities to be destroyed.
@@ChristopherMichael180 So why did this Ian marry Melanie???? Did he feel sorry for her or believe her stories? Did he know Chad and Lorie before? If Mormons think they know Jesus so well why all the divorces?? That’s not what Jesus taught.
I have a gut feeling that Melanie knows more than she lets on! I don’t see why her ex-husband and children would be targets on their list in any capacity unless Melanie had some knowledge.. the only reason I see them wanting to go after Brandon is because his closeness to Charles but I’m pretty sure he was already gone by the time an attempt was made on Brandon’s life. I really hope Melanie has no contact with those children. I wouldn’t be surprised if she saw what Laurie was doing with the life insurance policies and wanted in. When she talked to Ian about their beliefs, she was probably testing the waters to see how he’d respond.
Well yes it is real. When things go really bad in life or if you are accused and gossiped about and you’ve been really hurt it certainly doesn’t come from God. Good and evil are often invisible and some people like Chad and Lories friends find it hard to discern the difference. Satan uses that ignorance to his advantage and blinds people like the Mormons who mix the Bible up and add their own sick Book of Mormon and mess with peoples minds. Satan is always on the watch for vulnerable people who don’t understand the Bible. Have you ever been to a funeral where people don’t know what to say so try to crack some lame jokes??? The air gets kind of thick?? That’s one example of Satan attacking grieving people and it’s called oppression. I didn’t know that for years. But what you need is to get into a church that teaches about Jesus and that cares about you. The Mormon religion is called a cult because they have added sick doctrines about a horrible man called Joseph Smith who had over 30 wives. It’s pure nonsense Satan has used people to make up really crazy ideas about marriage and heaven that are not in the Bible. Hope this helps you a bit.
When you get a sudden sharp pain in your back..Bcuz someone just folded you into the shape of a Taco 🌮 😂 Those were Lori's " spiritual attacks" she casted on people.😅
I keep asking the same question. How about Adam, Lori's other brother. Lori accused him to try to kill her. What do you know about him and his silence?
Sorry, but I disagree. Y’all r giving Adam more credit than he deserves. He might be the most sane Cox, but that’s not saying much. he is still a Cox. And he did Charles dirty. I do believe he had some good intentions with Charles “to a degree,” but he would only go so far and ultimately wouldn’t betray Janis and/or Summer and broke Charles’ confidence. Adsm did so many questionable things surrounding Charles’ murder, and then kept saying he was cooperating with police and wanted to tell the police what he knew, yet the police didn’t hear from him for 2 months. Adam was literally texting Charles up to the moment Charles parked in front of Lori’s house. Adam even said to Charles, “Alex & Lori are up to something.” Adam indicated to Charles there could be danger, yet Charles walks into Lori’s house, is murdered, and Adam doesn’t even try to text or call Charles EVER AGAIN??? Adam is literally texting someone who’s facing a dangerous situation and you don’t try to check on that person EVER AGAIN?? 🤔GTFOH!! Adam left town (unplanned) and says he found out Charles was dead 3 days later when he was telling his friend the story of them texting and his friend googled Charles name. NOTE: Adam wasn’t involved in Charles murder, but Adam let Charles down and didn’t act appropriately when he really could’ve helped (he’s a true Cox).
Wow,,,, these ppl are like outter limits. I have known many Mormons... And none of them demostrated this level of delusion or homicidal tendency.... This case has taught me a lot more of the LDS belief. And I am shocked. Shocked that some of these witnesses would go this far off the rails that they didn't put the pieces together AS SOON AS TAMMY DIED. AND FOR THAT MATTER HOW DID TAMMY NOT SEE NEW DIGGING SPOTS ON HER PROPERTY???
Narcissist, like Laurie like people when they can get something from them, and she could get some thing from Melanie even if it was affirmation, it’s called narcissistic supply. She wanted people to look up to her so others would as well she wanted to create a following and this is what people with NPG do. 13:33
Just horrible and the more Lori and Chad talk about Dark souls and Zombies.... Im thinkn... How did no one call them out on such dark and evil thoughts of others???? Lori and Chad are 2 major examples of psychosis that should never have met! Homicidial maniacs.
Can anyone give a blessing if u r LDS? I thought you had to be of a certain level in leadership within the LDS church to be allowed to give a blessing.
@@d.m.6397 I thought so. But bc no one seems to ever even bring up that up or blink an eye, I was doubting what i learned. I doubt Ian is part of the priesthood. Thx for answering me.
Ian is interesting. I think he wiped the floor with Mr Thomas and his cross. It's weird the way he married this Melanie. But ironically he will be the one who keeps her from going to prison for the rest of her life. Mel better grow up and be a good wife to Ian
I’m glad those kids was taken from Melanie. Those kids would be dead too. I hope she doesn’t get her kids back, that she can only see them in the presence of an officer.
I laughed so hard when the defense atty got confused & thought Ian was Melanies ex husband brandon lmao these ppl marry, divorce then marry again like they change clothes so i dont blame the guy 😅😅
Yeah right, newlyweds and he’s going around secretly recording, for 2 weeks but only 9 recordings. This guy is spewing some bs and in the long run he’s got Lori jr. for a wife It’s a good thing the police did not let Melanie get them children from her ex.
"Oh, folded Satan up like a taco you say? Interesting! Blessings to remove dark tides & shield you with light? Wow! I'll hear the rest after I meet with this divorce attorney"... did ya try that?
I know and understood the necessity for Defense Attorneys. But they all are so irritating!!!! They try to misrepresent the witness testimony or "catch" them in lies. It feels like they intentionally twist facts to the benefit of their client, not to the actual fact. If that makes sense, lol!
This guy is the one being manipulated and I would not be surprised if he didn’t come up missing! Hell Melanie allowed them to try to take her children father out. It’s some really asinine people in the world
Oh! Ian said Lori and Chad thought one of the ways a person could be possessed was by a bug, entering your ear. I wonder if Chad saw and took that idea from the very strange movie, Bug. The romance between the two major characters also is similar to theirs. He tells her she is a kind of Queen and that's why the bugs in him are attracted to her...go watch it!
I've been listening to pieces of all this. Daily. And it's soooo different without the court room visuals. It's a different beast entirely! I'm sorry, Lori's lawyer sounds 13 and is quite rough around the edges. Just not polished. After the amazing prosecutuon in the Murdaugh trial...and Harpootlens own magic for the defense...I expected more. 😶
Brandon is so lucky to have gotten away from her. His children are lucky too, cuz next, the ones that were rated dark would have been dead. Why are you people so gullible is beyond belief to me. You are supposed to have discretion and fore thought with Jesus Christ, and here you all just jump from one bed to the other. I went out with a mormon once in Arizona and after we were seeing one another for about a month, I met his cousin. His cousin tried to shide me cuz I smoke cigarettes. HA !! Well, when I told the man I was seeing what his cousin said, he got reallly mad. Then a couple of days later he told me that he and his cousin did not see eye to eye, cuz....."get this" He went to bed with his cousins wife while he was married and the cousin was married. I looked at ( I will call him Bud ) the guy I was seeing and I said " How dare you gripe about me smoking cigarettes while you all are bed hopping with each other." Needless to say, the relationship did not work out. Thank you LORD>
Ian should get out while he can. Melanie is as guilty as Lori and Chad. She should have been charged. She knew all along what happened to the kids. She even said her kids were dark and had to be taken care of. I can't understand how they let her have joint custody. Brandon should have runned with them
Melanie is 100 percent involved in all of it. She knew ahead of time what was going to happen and chose to keep her mouth shut! She knew they were going to kill Brandon., there is no way she didn't.
I agree
@@fideetfortitudine6599 she should be arrested
Facts and this idiot does not see he is being dragged in to this foolery. With his 🤬 self. Talking about went from beauty to the beast…. He probably never had someone look like Melanie smh some Brooke just dumb
She could have tried to put a stop to it all...before Charles died! Both melanies!
You peops are missing the point...manipulation is something that isn't always recognizable when your in it...this is afyer the fact. . Melanie may have known more but she could be alot of things...
She could be weak , a follower, too trusting, blinded by the religious jargon...?
Who knows what she knew!!
IAN!! Maybe you will read this but..when a woman doesn’t have her young kids with her for days and leaves them behind to cast out dark spirits like your wife did that is a HUGE RED FLAG!!!!
Shouldn't that be common sense? Something isn't right with this guy ian as well. He knew chad and was following his "teachings" before he met Melanie.
Well, he himself left his own kids to the mother and moved In and married Melanie.
TodY is May, 29. 2023 and a ton of texts were exposed ND lori was found guilty. I hope Ian has th e proof he needs to run from Melani, take your kids and file for custody, otherwise you will not have visitation or custody with your kids from your previous marriage.
@@marygroner9530 he hasnt even right to see his own kids from his previous marriage. He only has 1 kid with Melanie and supports her fully. So, he will not run anywhere.
We have to feel sorry for Ian...he had no idea. But, he has children with both former and previous wife so he has a real dilemma. There are laws about exposing children to dangerous circumstances but I don't know Idaho law. If Ian exposes any of those children to danger, they could press "Failure to Protect" against him.
Ian, please read: Next time you get married, wait a year or more after meeting them. This is the life you get with a 10-day courtship. Why didn't she tell you all her baggage the day BEFORE you got married instead of the day after? Because she wanted to sink her hooks in you before you could run. I've never seen so many gullible, naive people in one place. Dazed and confused.
YES! I married the best guy in the world after knowing each other only a year & thought I must be out of my mind. Been the best 6 years of my life since, and I guess I knew he was who I wanted to marry after 10 days but I had some investigating to do!
Has anything been said about why the married so quickly? Evidentally it wasnt important to them that they didn't kbow each other.
Even a year isn’t enough time to fully know someone
@@jeanie8831 They married quickly for the same reason any guy is willing to marry quickly. Their religion prevented them from doing what he wanted to do until being married.
@@Yourethebossapplesauce The point is that it's better than 10 days, and if he had waited a year he would have seen all the things he learned about AFTER the marriage & made an informed decision
What was Ian thinking. He married a crazy woman ten days after meeting her, getting the blessing to marry from two even crazier, more evil people.
I’m sorry, but anyone who asks Chad Daybell for permission for marriage, is a straight CHUMP
Goofy he’s freaking goofy
"there's no shortage of people who want to abuse Melani or get something out of Melanie"
Well there's certainly no shortage of people *NAMED MELANIE* who were perfectly fine with JJ and tylee being called dark zombies who clearly knew that they were innocent, trusting children whose lives were in grave DANGER. *AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PROTECT THEM*
. But let's all listen to gas-lit hubby, pkay the world's tiniest violin for Lori Junior,.
Sorry, I'm team Brandon the safety of his children.
Exactly. He’s a clown
THIS
What an apropos word CHUMP! Not used enough!
Melanie’s mother is Loris sister who died without reason. Maybe someone should look into this death as well. That’s why Lori is kind of a mother for Melanie
There was a reason for her death. She suffered severely from diabetes. There are some other health factors as well.
I feel exactly the same. After listening to Lori's cousin talk about the whole thing last week, it stinks.
Lori's mother and father were hell-bent on people believing it was suicide/ self-harm. When she was taken into hospital, none of them made the slightest attempt to come back from Hawaii, and guess who sounded the alarm...again.....Alex.
Her parents said some really strange things too like "Stacey is always sick, maybe she shouldn't be on earth anymore". I mean, who in their right mind says that about their own daughter?!
The death of Lori’s older sister is also suspicious and appears to involve Alex again - listen the ‘Mormon Stories’ podcast featuring Lori’s cousin - it’s a fascinating account of the family and Lori’s sister’s premature death.
I do not believe Melanie did not know about the recorded conversations. With such knowledge she would be able to avoid incriminating herself - even if Ian’s intentions for LE were genuine. Then Ian and Melanie could go on with their lives and the divorce settlement unhindered. IMO.
I wonder who collected her life insurance
Melanie is just as bad as Lori
She never managed to murder her own children so I’d have to disagree.
As much as I totally do NOT trust Melani, I do belive she was manipulated somewhat by Lori. Melani is not the brightest crayon in the box if you know what I mean. Not to mention her utterly traumatic childhood. She is a lost soul. But she ALSO should be held accountable on some level.
@@nicothecat1648 I agree wholeheartedly
"There were blessings flying around like flies."
or fleas!
The Taco curse Lori casted might explain all the flies!!😂
Ian is _so_ angry at Lori. When is he going to ask his current wife to be accountable?
These types of people are more dangerous than any immigrant poses.
Doubt it... See the latest Mexican national that murdered 5 in Texas the other day? Sorry not sorry
Chad and Lori are serial killers.
The attorney drives me nuts. His voice also grates on me! I think I need a glass of wine.
and the fact he never sounds prepared. Gets medical info from watching movies, and more times than I can count, he responds to a witness’s answer with “interesting.” 🫣🤭
Have two or three. Cheers to you from OZ.
A glass? More like a damn case of wine 🍷
Share! We all need it
omg - i thought i was the only one! I cant stand his Voice!!! (mines a JD n Coke pls)
I felt sorry for the Alex Murdaugh Murder Jury but holy cow, these poor people are going to need PTSD assistance after this. This guy you don’t know what to think. 10 days was all he knew this woman and he married her? Good grief, run, Run Far Run Fast.
I will be amazed this guy is still with Melanie. 😢
You WILL be or ARE amazed he's still with her?
He must be nutz too!?! Otherwise it makes no sense!
They are together still for your information they live in two different states but they travel to see each other
Raysha, you are thinking of the OTHER Melanie that is married to guy in Utah while she lives in Rexburg still I think. This Melanie and Ian are still together and live in AZ. He testified they drove up together on Monday
They are still married and have a baby together.
She wasn’t exploited or manipulated. She was 100% full on.
She was manipulated but fully into the circle of course. Even the hit man Alex had silently said to his wife day before his death that " I might only be the fall guy for them. Either I am man of the God or then I am not" Lori and Chad manipulated full on him to do the dirty job and make him the fall guy to who gets all the blame if they get arrested. And no matter how evil Alex was he believed 100% of Chad's teachings about 44 thousands and zombies and that In this life his mission is to protect his sister the 'goddes' Lori. So his wife testified In the court...
What's behind all these marriages and divorces for these 'CHRISTIANS '?
They are NOT Christians but in a religious cult.Mormons are not in the truth
There are NOT Christian’s
Exactly my thoughts.
What divorces? Most of them are murders
I'm wondering too. And all the quick marriages. Nothing is sacred to them.
Why was Ian allowed to disclose that Melani violated the court order regarding testimony?? Why wasn't she made to take the stand and inform the judge herself she willingly disobeyed his direct order??
lori said she folded satan up like a taco and sent him to Antarctica. satan, taco & antarctica?? None of those words even belong in the same sentence? How did this women ever make it on the Wheel of Fortune? Yes Pat, i’ll take a W, a T & an F…
I am not sure how much longer I can listen to this defense attorney’s MONOTONE voice! Aaaarrrggghhhh!
This guy's testimony stinks to high heaven. I initially had some sympathy for him a couple of years ago when it was revealed that he had worn a wire, but it's obvious from his "poor" memory and vague, almost argumentative attitude that he's just another one of the coven. Pretty disgusting that law enforcement is going so easy on him and his Las Vegas bride. After all, a man very nearly got his head shot off and at least four others were tragically murdered.
It actually seemed like he was being honest wether it sounded believable or not....lol how the hell you gonna remember every detail from 3 years ago? He wanted to find Tyler and Ryan and protect his wife and kids....maybe you should listen with your ears and not automatically judge.the defense sounds like an ass because he doesn't have much to argue about with Ian. Lori is done for and he knows it 😊
Sorry, but I stand with what I said. I do remember vitally important things that happen in my life, and I would darn sure remember anything that had to do with attempted murder and actual murder. It would be etched in my brain forever. But he's not the only one...these people who were close to Chad and Lori all seem to have very selective memory.
@@girlmama. Tylee and JJ...
I believe they killed Alex too his death was too convenient.
Indeed.
Exactly!
Why they married so fast?😱 specifically after a divorce?..I'm wondering if this happens because their religion? That they want to be intimate and they need to be married first?🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️..Dumb! Specifically if you coming from a divorce!!!..at least get so time to know the new person, and meet her/his family, and check the BACKGROUND!!🙃 Otherwise, You can be land in a huge messy criminal case, or in jail🤪🫣🥴
They got married the same day as Zulema and Alex. Chad and lori told both couples to get married
Cause they are all 🥜.
Yes so they can have sex
@@zetrei80 the 2 couples got married 1 day apart.
Mel P & Ian married on 11/30/19 with Alex & Zulema as witnesses.
And Alex & Zulema married the next day on 12/01/19, but Mel P & Ian did not witness or attend.
They married fast because JC was going to be arriving in 6 or 7 months, and you can't be a "super leader" without being married. It's a thing. Plus, technically having pre marital sex can get you exxed (unless you were married in a previous life, I guess). I know, I know, they won't have sex, but they will kill people? NO. They weren't killing people. They would say they were killing zombies. I trust I make myself clear as mud.
10 days!!!??? Madness ..
Run Ian while you still can
no way, they are perfect for each other
😂😂😂
How can Ian determine,reality or manipulation. He followed his member into this level of craziness and decided to stay with one of the craziest.
This defense attorney is really bad at being a defense attorney.
Actually he is good at it. His job is to make all the stateʻs witnesses and evidence look questionable. He needs to make the jury at least a little skeptical about what the state is presenting so that he can feed them reasonable doubt. He sounds like he knows nothing, but he knows exactly what he is doing.
@@kristinaadams7203 Hahaha
@@kristinaadams7203 when have they made you question anyone? They way the handled Loris DNA evidence alone is enough to call it malpractice. They have made multiple errors in the way they’ve tried to counter evidence. I think she will get new representation at some point and ask for a new trial claiming her state appointed attorneys are incompetent and ill prepared.
@@davelynch1228 Well, getting a new lawyer and claiming misrepresentation would delay things, wouldn't it? Maybe that is the point. New trial would be a tactic too.
@Kristina Adams She would have to have the appellate court make a decision throughout her appeal process regarding Lori not receiving adequate representation.
Wait a minute!!!!….. so Chad and Lori said The SPECIFIC day Alex died for her to go somewhere safe because there would be an attack!!! So they killed Alex somehow (or Zulema did!). Zulema didn’t even want the cops in her home after Alex died. So many people are accomplices in these birders it’s insane.
“ Folded Satan up like a taco and sent him to Antarctica “ 😂😂😂😂😂
I died too 😂! At least I got a little gem of a spell from this Shitshow! Get ready family members I can't stand...😌🙌🏻 I'm gonna break some backs with my Taco Fold! Lmfao 😂😂
Lori didn't need Jesus. She needed psychiatric care and no one batted an eye 😳🧈😆 sounds like a 6yr old casting a spell on thier siblings 😂
Who gets married after only 10 days of dating?! Then Ian is shocked that husband number 1 had been shot at?!
They're not smart peop!e, well I guess that goes without saying, the stuff they are peddling.
Bro, RUN!
I'm sure a marriage that started with the cover up of murdered children is destined to succeed long term.
“This is not my beautiful house, this is not my beautiful wife.!”
YAAASSS
Defense voices drive me crazy🙄
I wish someone from LDS would explain this "blessing" nonsense. It sounds ridiculous. Well, actually it ALL sounds F'ing Crazy to me.
You really should look up what is a priesthood blessing and how is it performed in the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It will give you some insight into how bizarre it is that they were flying around and doing them so often. For sure a form of manipulation and power over the people they were giving them to.
It’s not a simple prayer.
Its wild to me how people fall into these cults like this and let it consume their lives and identities like this. What is in the water in Arizona, Idaho and Utah man 😬
Satan thinks it’s his territory. There is nothing Christian about any of the Mormon religion. They have been brainwashed from birth and don’t know better. American government should have cleaned that up 200 years ago. The LDS church thinks it’s better than some of its offshoots but their doctrines about the Book of Mormon and heaven are not in the Bible. Sure there are good people in their ranks but they have ALL been lead astray of Christian churches. It’s really sad.
How can someone tell Melanie B., "divorce your husband" the father of their kids?
10 days, after, get married???
I wonder who and what type of people the two of them really are.
How did he not go to authorities, seeing this nonsense.!
I hope going forward you listen to your intuition, Ian.
It is evident in meeting with, someone.
Perhaps he doesn't have the conscience, or, perhaps, he does and just listened to a beautiful "looking" person.
They needed their followers to continue marrying gullible people who they could later label as dark so they could caste out by murder and collect life insurance. It seems that they were pressuring their brain washed followers to share their fortunes with “the church”
So Melanie leaves her husband Brandon because he’s dark - probably pushed by Lori and Chad. Then she meets Ian - who doesn’t sound like a stupid man - marries her 10 days after meeting. Then Alex dies and a day or two later. But hey,, who cares? Lori and Chad were probably thinking Ian would be their new fixer! Their warrior! At least Ian wasn’t drawn in and brain-washed into believing the crap spewed by the dastardly duo. Is he still with the unstable and Melanie? Does he realize that he married Lori and Chad as well and would have been expected to believe and do anything they wanted him to? Ian dodged a bullet! And probably Melanie too if she started to doubt the crazy Lori.
Satan taco in Antarctica 🌮
😂
This is my new band name
@@d.m.6397 I'd listen to you 🙃
Exactly!! Did she follow the LDS teachings? Or was it more like Hogwarts teaching? 😂
@D. M. This is my new threat when my Granddaughter doesn't listen. 😅😂
Is Lori’s niece Melanie going to testify?
I don’t think so. The impression I got is she purposefully watched some trial footage so she would have to be disqualified as a witness.
That is so so infuriating- SHE HAS DONE THAT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE SHE KNOWS - what a wicked little Bleeeeepppppppp……
@@angel83553 yeah. Even if she was ignorant about the conspiracies and it’s just because she’s embarrassed, it would be SO narcissistic to prioritize the comfort of her own ego above justice for everyone who has been horrifically murdered.
Like if she really did watch trial footage on purpose I only see a bad reason and a worse reason.
1) she’s embarrassed and feels entitled to move on with her life without having to testify to her extreme devotion to her homicidal aunt.
2) consciousness of guilt.
He was in doubt about Melanie , her ex-wife warned him and he still with Melanie ! What’s going on with this people.
Chad and Lori were the closest family members she trusted! So sad 😢
I bet Melanie is SO PISSED at Ian for helping the FBI try to find Tylee and JJ.
No, she was also concerned for the kids, and had asked Ian what did he think? I believe at first she trusted Lorrie and Chad, so this is a revolution that must be painful for her!
@@desireedabdoub6124 I hope that did shock her back into reality, and I also hope she does have remorse for all the damage she has done.
I hope that Brandon is able to find peace and security after the nightmare he has had to go through. The trauma of surviving a murder attempt must be very difficult. But thankfully it will be easier since Melanie’s divorce lawyers agreed to a negotiated settlement of $12 million to be paid to Brandon after they published vile and despicable slanderous statements made by Melanie as hard facts in order to try to get additional leverage for Melanie during the divorce. Turned out all those despicable claims about Brandon were ridiculous lies from Lori that she told Melanie had been relayed directly from Jesus. I think even that should disqualify Melanie from ever having more than supervised visitation with her children because she cannot ever be trusted enough not to make attempts at parental alienation and/or coaching abuse claims to try to wrestle custody away from Brandon.
Oh I wasn’t aware of all that Michael! I agree with you if indeed this was happening! I do pray as you said it helps open her eyes!
@@desireedabdoub6124 I truly hope she was more of a blind follower than a co-conspirator, but I have my doubts. That said, I believe Lori would have eventually killed Melanie as more of a longterm game plan. It seems like every murder so far had some form of financial incentive to it. I’d guess after Melanie gave Lori the address of Brandon’s brand new home that Lori sent Alex after Brandon to kill him for the $12 million settlement he secured. But I imagine that money would have gone into a trust for his kids instead of straight to Melanie. But Melanie might have gotten full custody of the kids. And a witness from the other day testified that Melanie’s children were written after Brandon on the priority list of vessels of demonic entities that needed to be destroyed.
So I can’t help but think at the very least Lori planned to murder Brandon to get the kids and their multi million dollar trust accounts into Melanie’s hands. Then maybe they’d try to restructure all the trusts and wills so if the kids die then the funds default to Melanie and then maybe Melanie would have made Lori the sole beneficiary of her will? Then Lori drops all the dominos and kills Brandon, then Melanie’s children, then Melanie, and then Lori gets what’s left of the $12 million after taxes and fees.
I doubt it would have worked, but Murdaugh proved that manipulation can go a long way in defrauding settlements and trust accounts.
With that much money Lori would have been able to make all her dreams come true. She and Chad could build their new church with doomsday prepper facilities underground and fund a marketing campaign to attract followers with Lori as the charismatic and “vivacious” star of all their commercials.
It’s so scary to think about. I hope today Melanie is horrified that her children were on Lori’s list of demonic entities to be destroyed.
@@ChristopherMichael180 So why did this Ian marry Melanie???? Did he feel sorry for her or believe her stories? Did he know Chad and Lorie before? If Mormons think they know Jesus so well why all the divorces?? That’s not what Jesus taught.
Could anyone fix the microphones' sound level please?
Ian married way too quick and did not know what he was getting himself into incl Melani but I believe they were being groomed by Lori and chad
10 days before getting married? That’s a long courtship in Mormon time.
I have a gut feeling that Melanie knows more than she lets on! I don’t see why her ex-husband and children would be targets on their list in any capacity unless Melanie had some knowledge.. the only reason I see them wanting to go after Brandon is because his closeness to Charles but I’m pretty sure he was already gone by the time an attempt was made on Brandon’s life. I really hope Melanie has no contact with those children. I wouldn’t be surprised if she saw what Laurie was doing with the life insurance policies and wanted in.
When she talked to Ian about their beliefs, she was probably testing the waters to see how he’d respond.
To clarify, yes, Charles was already deceased when Brandon was shot at... Charles dies 7/11/19 and Brandon was shot at on 10/2/19
He should have known more about this horrible family before marrying into it
What’s a spiritual attack? Never heard of that !!
That’s because they made it up 🙃
Well yes it is real. When things go really bad in life or if you are accused and gossiped about and you’ve been really hurt it certainly doesn’t come from God. Good and evil are often invisible and some people like Chad and Lories friends find it hard to discern the difference. Satan uses that ignorance to his advantage and blinds people like the Mormons who mix the Bible up and add their own sick Book of Mormon and mess with peoples minds. Satan is always on the watch for vulnerable people who don’t understand the Bible. Have you ever been to a funeral where people don’t know what to say so try to crack some lame jokes??? The air gets kind of thick?? That’s one example of Satan attacking grieving people and it’s called oppression. I didn’t know that for years. But what you need is to get into a church that teaches about Jesus and that cares about you. The Mormon religion is called a cult because they have added sick doctrines about a horrible man called Joseph Smith who had over 30 wives. It’s pure nonsense Satan has used people to make up really crazy ideas about marriage and heaven that are not in the Bible. Hope this helps you a bit.
When you get a sudden sharp pain in your back..Bcuz someone just folded you into the shape of a Taco 🌮 😂 Those were Lori's " spiritual attacks" she casted on people.😅
@@tylerhulsey982 EXACTLY!! The Taco in a box in Antarctica Spell?! Need I say more?! 😂😂😂
@@yvonnemendez7172 thanks
In my opinion an autopsy should be done regardless of a family member saying that to do it it should just happen
I keep asking the same question.
How about Adam, Lori's other brother. Lori accused him to try to kill her.
What do you know about him and his silence?
He's given interviews.
I believe Adam did several interviews and I think he is a DJ of a radio station where he talks bout the case.
Adam was supportive of Charles Vallow at a risk himself and his son Zac.
No, Adam has done interviews, he seems to be the only normal one in the whole family
Sorry, but I disagree. Y’all r giving Adam more credit than he deserves. He might be the most sane Cox, but that’s not saying much. he is still a Cox. And he did Charles dirty. I do believe he had some good intentions with Charles “to a degree,” but he would only go so far and ultimately wouldn’t betray Janis and/or Summer and broke Charles’ confidence. Adsm did so many questionable things surrounding Charles’ murder, and then kept saying he was cooperating with police and wanted to tell the police what he knew, yet the police didn’t hear from him for 2 months. Adam was literally texting Charles up to the moment Charles parked in front of Lori’s house. Adam even said to Charles, “Alex & Lori are up to something.” Adam indicated to Charles there could be danger, yet Charles walks into Lori’s house, is murdered, and Adam doesn’t even try to text or call Charles EVER AGAIN??? Adam is literally texting someone who’s facing a dangerous situation and you don’t try to check on that person EVER AGAIN?? 🤔GTFOH!! Adam left town (unplanned) and says he found out Charles was dead 3 days later when he was telling his friend the story of them texting and his friend googled Charles name. NOTE: Adam wasn’t involved in Charles murder, but Adam let Charles down and didn’t act appropriately when he really could’ve helped (he’s a true Cox).
Wow,,,, these ppl are like outter limits. I have known many Mormons... And none of them demostrated this level of delusion or homicidal tendency.... This case has taught me a lot more of the LDS belief. And I am shocked. Shocked that some of these witnesses would go this far off the rails that they didn't put the pieces together AS SOON AS TAMMY DIED. AND FOR THAT MATTER HOW DID TAMMY NOT SEE NEW DIGGING SPOTS ON HER PROPERTY???
There's so many a-holes I know that I wish I could "fold into the shape of a taco & put them in a box in Antarctic" Thx Lori!! Pure Genuis! Lmfao 😂😂
Disappointed...thought he'd have more to offer.
Mr. Thomas is a bad lawyer. It’s like he throws whatever at the wall to see if it sticks.
Ian: blessings were flying around like flies.
Defense: What kind of blessings?
The kind that are really curses 😒😐😑.
Be well and be at peace.
I know it's late in but it would be great if title also said what day and what no witness, finding it hard to make sure I've heard every witness...
I hope his wife realizes what was happening at the time, looking back.
Narcissist, like Laurie like people when they can get something from them, and she could get some thing from Melanie even if it was affirmation, it’s called narcissistic supply. She wanted people to look up to her so others would as well she wanted to create a following and this is what people with NPG do. 13:33
Just horrible and the more Lori and Chad talk about Dark souls and Zombies.... Im thinkn... How did no one call them out on such dark and evil thoughts of others???? Lori and Chad are 2 major examples of psychosis that should never have met! Homicidial maniacs.
Those who called them out were murdered or put to the hate or hit list... Charles, Tylee, Brandon, Kay...
One thing I think we can all agree on.... CUSTODY FOR BRANDON BORDEAUX IN THE CURRENT BATTLE!
Can anyone give a blessing if u r LDS? I thought you had to be of a certain level in leadership within the LDS church to be allowed to give a blessing.
You have to have a peni5. Lol
Yes, you have to hold the Priesthood to give a blessing. A Google search will give you more detail about it if you're curious.
@@d.m.6397 I thought so. But bc no one seems to ever even bring up that up or blink an eye, I was doubting what i learned. I doubt Ian is part of the priesthood. Thx for answering me.
What do they mean by blessing?? Is it a prayer??
This broad actually Casted a Taco Spell and no one got the reality of how Cookoo Crackers Bananas she was ?! 😂
Ian is interesting. I think he wiped the floor with Mr Thomas and his cross. It's weird the way he married this Melanie. But ironically he will be the one who keeps her from going to prison for the rest of her life. Mel better grow up and be a good wife to Ian
I’m glad those kids was taken from Melanie. Those kids would be dead too. I hope she doesn’t get her kids back, that she can only see them in the presence of an officer.
Ooh hoo hoo!
Thomas was so sure he was gonna get over on Ian!
I guess Ian has had enough of this bullshit from Lori.
This is about damn time Ian!
Defence voice is distorted and hard to listen to.
I laughed so hard when the defense atty got confused & thought Ian was Melanies ex husband brandon lmao these ppl marry, divorce then marry again like they change clothes so i dont blame the guy 😅😅
Married 10 days after they met? He's just as crazy-weird as the family he married into.
Lucky 🍀 Brandon
Yeah right, newlyweds and he’s going around secretly recording, for 2 weeks but only 9 recordings.
This guy is spewing some bs and in the long run he’s got Lori jr. for a wife
It’s a good thing the police did not let Melanie get them children from her ex.
Dated Melanie for 10 days and married. WOW!
Alex was married for a couple of weeks before he was murdered. His new wife was obviously complicit in his poisoning.
Why did Ian say he wasn’t allowed in the court with melani when she had to go previously, because of Colby??
Covid
"Oh, folded Satan up like a taco you say? Interesting! Blessings to remove dark tides & shield you with light? Wow! I'll hear the rest after I meet with this divorce attorney"... did ya try that?
I know and understood the necessity for Defense Attorneys. But they all are so irritating!!!! They try to misrepresent the witness testimony or "catch" them in lies. It feels like they intentionally twist facts to the benefit of their client, not to the actual fact. If that makes sense, lol!
They do “castings” but they still k/// the person ..
By folding them into the shape of a Taco!?😂 why are we even surprised of thier actions?! They were all drunk on that Kool-aid 😅
Ians thumbnail picture here, is not very flattering LOL 😬. He looks like a real dud
Manipulated….durrrrrrr…..already setting up to clear his wife bc Lori and Chad gonna start throwing everyone under the bus…..
This guy is the one being manipulated and I would not be surprised if he didn’t come up missing! Hell Melanie allowed them to try to take her children father out. It’s some really asinine people in the world
I wonder how much life insurance he has?
Cult of wackos 😮
Oh! Ian said Lori and Chad thought one of the ways a person could be possessed was by a bug, entering your ear. I wonder if Chad saw and took that idea from the very strange movie, Bug.
The romance between the two major characters also is similar to theirs.
He tells her she is a kind of Queen and that's why the bugs in him are attracted to her...go watch it!
I've been listening to pieces of all this. Daily. And it's soooo different without the court room visuals. It's a different beast entirely!
I'm sorry, Lori's lawyer sounds 13 and is quite rough around the edges. Just not polished. After the amazing prosecutuon in the
Murdaugh trial...and Harpootlens own magic for the defense...I expected more. 😶
Exactly! I wanna see people holding their laughter in after the Folding into the shape of a taco & placed into a box in Antarctica 😂 I wanna see!!!
@@yvonnemendez7172 hahah yesss!!!
It's almost not as real if I can't see it!!!
just a lil!!!🤏 craziness in the court!
Is Melani his first love? He really should have held out longer for someone better.
Cant trust Ian Pawlowski
I don’t believe (or like) Ian Pawlowski… how dumb (or evil as Melanie) can he be to stay married to her?!?!
Brandon is so lucky to have gotten away from her. His children are lucky too, cuz next, the ones that were rated dark would have been dead. Why are you people so gullible is beyond belief to me. You are supposed to have discretion and fore thought with Jesus Christ, and here you all just jump from one bed to the other. I went out with a mormon once in Arizona and after we were seeing one another for about a month, I met his cousin. His cousin tried to shide me cuz I smoke cigarettes. HA !! Well, when I told the man I was seeing what his cousin said, he got reallly mad. Then a couple of days later he told me that he and his cousin did not see eye to eye, cuz....."get this" He went to bed with his cousins wife while he was married and the cousin was married. I looked at ( I will call him Bud ) the guy I was seeing and I said " How dare you gripe about me smoking cigarettes while you all are bed hopping with each other." Needless to say, the relationship did not work out. Thank you LORD>
Ian is blind as a bat when ut comes to Melani!
j you
Dating fir 10 days abd get married insane
This trial is ridiculous. Too many side bars. Too many breaks. Inexperienced all around
Ian should get out while he can. Melanie is as guilty as Lori and Chad. She should have been charged. She knew all along what happened to the kids. She even said her kids were dark and had to be taken care of. I can't understand how they let her have joint custody. Brandon should have runned with them
Hey Nate I sent u a message on messenger!!