In the very beginning, as far-fetched & convuluted as it may seem to a normal person, I thought that Lori really committed these heinous acts in the name of sincerely held religious beliefs. Now that we all know more of the details, I'm convinced she is morally & ethically bankrupt & did this so that she & Chad could live kid & responsibility free in Hawaii. Both Lori & Chad fantasized, wanted, & planned every single move they made. They were deliberate & calculated. May they both pay for the evil, disgusting, vile things they did!
Additionally she commented in an audio clip that she wanted Charles to know how hard it was to care for JJ and she wanted him to do it. Also, once one person was hurt with Alex’s actions, they were both well aware of how obsessed with this religion he was and what lengths he was willing to go to seen as worthy and receive recognition from Chad. So regardless of her literal physical actions, she had to clearly know what the outcome would be if the y all continued down this path together. And it happened over snd over again. Not to mention when she yelled at him after not killing Chads wife the first time saying “he couldnt do anything right.” There just doesnt seem to be any way to get out of responsibility for these actions by Alex and Chad together with Lori. Also they could have gone to the police as soon as Alex died if they wanted to claim fear of him or even wanting to protect him. There is just no way.
I’m a little mortified watching this hearing that it needed to be clarified these reporting were not a specific person…. Sorry catching up because we’ll work but more the LS trial has been a lot to take in mentally as a mom and step mom. These 2 cases have definitely had an impact. I send so many blessings and prayers to the families of both these children… Tylee and JJ suffered so much at the hands of people they trusted and LOVED
What do you mean "these reporting were not a specific person"? I think I know what part you are talking about, but I didn't understand what they were referring to specifically.
I believe what you heard was a clarification that the Forensic Anthropologist was using a demonstrative to show human anatomy, not an actual picture of a specific person.
Most definitely evil & possibly some mental iliness, but certainly not to the degree that it prevented them from being able to know & comprehend that what they were doing was wrong physically, mentally, emotionally, morally, & ethically. In my opinion, they lustfully & very willingly allowed their sexual desires & love of money to steer them down a path they arrogantly thought they would get away with. In the event that they got caught, well then the plan changed & they decided to just blame it on God. Nobody's supposed to question God, right?
See, that's just it. Cult ideology and buying into it isn't mental illness. I admit it's something, duabolical, evil, but these folks aren't crazy. They have, imo opinion and experience, suspended accepted norms and behavior which enables them to do the evil they do and justify it.
Yea! I for the first time have had literal nightmares about LS. It is devastating. My heart breaks for the families. I’m a mom and stepmom and I’m horrified
@@bonnylouwho76 Yes, I have not been real happy with the Judge. I feel he has been overly tolerant of Lori's attorneys many many objections. I just want to tell him to sit down and hush.
@@vickinoeske1154 I'm upset that the judge took the death penalty off of the table for Lori. I hope that the judge in Arizona doesn't do the same for her part in Charles's murder.
From McKinney, Texas- where's the remainder of the anthropologist's testimony? She's rocking it & as a cultural anthropologist myself, I'm VERY interested in the rest of her comments. She's AWESOME!!!
The burials were done at different times and the treatment of their bodies, as well. Maybe, Chad had more time to be methodical w/ JJs burial. After what they did to Tylee’s body, which had taken far more time, Chad had to hurry the burial, because some of his children still lived on property.
The difference with a burn is that the heat actually stops the blood from flowing. A small bit of blood may ooze out at first, but it won't actually bleed much. Chad probably burned her body before he dismembered her body.
In other words it appears that the pelvic girdle( hips, sacrum and coccyx) was being hacked at by some tool to break it down into smaller pieces for burial since it is a pretty large boney area.
Where's the rest? Dr. Christensen asks a clarifying question about the exhibit "You mean this one right here?" Prosecutor Smith responds "Yes ma'am" and then it ends!
I think the uploader may have gotten confused or possibly EIN is doing things in a new way? Part 2 also cuts off (I think in the same spot) and there’s no part 3. At least not yet.
@@tracyrobo7606 I checked Twitter and saw comments that the testimony ended abruptly right at 3:30 PM per the Judge. It makes sense EIN would go ahead and title Dr. Angi Christensen testimony part 1 since there has to be a part 2. I wonder if the court cut the audio early before they supplied it to EIN 🤔
@@CSIPiper it looks like what they are doing is Part 1 (all morning testimony) and Part 2 (all afternoon testimony). It also appears they are uploading individual witness testimony which I appreciate. Apparently Dr. Angi Christensen was the last on the stand on 4/26/2023 and will be back on the stand 4/27/2023; it made sense to title her testimony from Wednesday as part 1 since there will be a part 2.
I feel so sad hearing about these children .. I hoped they did not suffer but I do not believe….That to be the case . There are no words .. I don’t know how this jury could not convict this woman . She was supposed to protect her children not have them mutilated … she obviously is not of sound mind but idc ….she deserves to suffer, an eye for an eye .
@@misskelly9821 Exactly. The bones were not found above ground. Doesn’t that mean that the bones had to be marked (by animal activity or something) before they were buried where they were found by the authorities?
The attorney is another one that says "um" a thousand times and it is very annoying. She is the same one that questioned Alex's wife, and between the both of them and their "ums" I was about ready to tear my hair out!!!
I still cannot believe these Defense Attorneys have such a limited understanding of the Science being used by this FBI Anthropological PhD. Granted their speciality is the Law, but they could have hired a Grad Student from the State University to explain it to them so they do not sound quite so uneducated in this field. These are Junior level Biology/Anatomy questions while questioning about the photos. (Imagine Beavis and Butthead “haa haa She said MRI” ).
The defense attys have nothing but to always question a witness testimony. I'm surprised any one would want to defend this satan worshipper. Nothing but Evil!!!
Just because the attorney asked questions doesn't necessarily mean she herself didn't understand, but rather to help the jury understand and to get the information on record. IMO
VOIR DIRE! VOIR DIRE! My gosh this defense attorney is ridiculous! He also only asks questions about a witness’s experience- to try to discredit them somehow. And so rude Mr Thomas is when he gets frustrated. Not a very experienced defense attorney Lori received. And if Chad loves her so much, why hasn’t he taken all the responsibility and claimed high and low Lori knew nothing. Wonder how the defenses case will go…..we will see. She needs to rot for the rest of her days.
The ‘Pebbles hairdo’ is likely because in jail the authorities are not allowing any hair items such as curling irons, ect with which to ‘do her hair’. I’m suspecting that she asked her lawyer for a rubber band, perhaps? 🤷♀️
Yes, remember the text to Tammy. He said he shot a raccoon. I’m betting that is the carnivore. I wish the Prosecutor would have asked, dog or raccoon, rather than dog or cat.
@@dianealarcon8304THE WHOLE REASON THAT LE SUSPECTED AND THEN FOUND THE KIDS BURIED IN THE BACKYARD IS BECAUSE OF THAT TEXT.... AND THE REASON LE NOTICED THAT PARTICULAR TEXT IS BECAUSE RACCOONS ARE NOCTURNAL WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT OUT ROAMING IN THE DAY. NOT TOO MENTION THE FACT THAT RACCOONS DO NOT EAT THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY DEAD. IT HAS TO BE A FRESH KILL FOR THEM. NO, IT WASN'T A 🦝 BUT CHAD HAD DOGS....
Her speaking ability during questioning contains too many fillers such as “um” and “uh”..I start to get tired listening to her regardless of an interesting witness..
The defence will try to pin the killing and handling of the bodies on Chad Daybell, there could be no doubt about that. I personally believe Alex Cox killed and handled it all but he took his orders from Lori, she's the brain behind it. I doubt Chad Daybell handled the bodies for two reasons - why would he bury the remains in his own backyard which would be the first place for the Police to look for them and the bodies were buried shallowly, at least in JJ's case. Chad Daybell is a professional gravedigger, he wouldn't have committed those two mistakes. I'm thinking Lori was setting him up just in case she would need it later, for monetary or legal reasons. Lori is driven by greed, Chad was more driven by his passion for Lori and she used that and was going to continue to use men like that. There's no way Chad was Lori's end game, he wasn't wealthy enough to be, she would have moved on to her next host animal as soon as the money well ran dry. I think Chad Daybell has understood the entire thing by now and he feels stupid and embarrassed for being so gullible and manipulated by Lori, also realising that she's going to blame all of it on him.
Chad is knee deep in this ritualistic burial and burning, all for his envisioned church of the first born. He knew full well they were on his property. He checked the wind direction for the nights burning, he was caught looking back towards burial site while sitting in his car, and he fled from his property when he saw they were digging in the right spot.
Oh my gosh! Why would you say such a thing?!? That is so false and saying that is so crude & disrespectful to Tylee and the family that loves her. This isn’t Silence of the lamb! You and Lori would get along it seems!
If these evil pair hadn't been caught, it was only going to be a matter of time to Chad's family were bumped off!! Evil to the core!! What they did you couldn't do to an animal!!
32:46 *Dismemberm•nt typically occurr around joints making the remains into smaller pieces for disposal. All of the sharp trauma are directed at the pelvic region🤬It’s definitely possible Tylee was SA’d. I empathize with the trauma the victims are enduring/endured. I hope they find peace & get justice*
In the very beginning, as far-fetched & convuluted as it may seem to a normal person, I thought that Lori really committed these heinous acts in the name of sincerely held religious beliefs. Now that we all know more of the details, I'm convinced she is morally & ethically bankrupt & did this so that she & Chad could live kid & responsibility free in Hawaii. Both Lori & Chad fantasized, wanted, & planned every single move they made. They were deliberate & calculated. May they both pay for the evil, disgusting, vile things they did!
Pride, love of money, selfishness, laziness & sex & believing they deserve all they can get. No feelings or empathy 😮😮😮😢😢whatsoever for others.
Smart women.. doctor of anthropology
Alex Lori and Chads souls will burn forever in the lake of fire called HELL🔥 as the satanic evil beings they are .
💯This has been my take from the beginning in terms of their true motives....
Additionally she commented in an audio clip that she wanted Charles to know how hard it was to care for JJ and she wanted him to do it. Also, once one person was hurt with Alex’s actions, they were both well aware of how obsessed with this religion he was and what lengths he was willing to go to seen as worthy and receive recognition from Chad.
So regardless of her literal physical actions, she had to clearly know what the outcome would be if the y all continued down this path together. And it happened over snd over again. Not to mention when she yelled at him after not killing Chads wife the first time saying “he couldnt do anything right.”
There just doesnt seem to be any way to get out of responsibility for these actions by Alex and Chad together with Lori.
Also they could have gone to the police as soon as Alex died if they wanted to claim fear of him or even wanting to protect him. There is just no way.
How could a mother do this to her own children and then go to Hawaii and dance and have a good time horrible human being
Only an evil mother does this!!
Horrible couple!
Because Lori is trash
What kind of crazy person could cut someone’s head off?
I like Dr. Christensen. She explains her specialty in an easy way to understand and how it relates to poor Tylee's destroyed remains. 🥺💔💔💔
Is it me or does the pathologist sound pretty shaken up when discussing Tylees remains?
Too bad she was not questioned by one of the other two lawyers.
I’m a little mortified watching this hearing that it needed to be clarified these reporting were not a specific person…. Sorry catching up because we’ll work but more the LS trial has been a lot to take in mentally as a mom and step mom. These 2 cases have definitely had an impact. I send so many blessings and prayers to the families of both these children… Tylee and JJ suffered so much at the hands of people they trusted and LOVED
What do you mean "these reporting were not a specific person"? I think I know what part you are talking about, but I didn't understand what they were referring to specifically.
Why mortified?
I can’t imagine what was going through their minds while they were fighting for their lives
I believe what you heard was a clarification that the Forensic Anthropologist was using a demonstrative to show human anatomy, not an actual picture of a specific person.
Ugh. This case, along with the Stauch case, are very heavy. Dripping with evil intent and a touch of mental illness perhaps.
I know 😢
Most definitely evil & possibly some mental iliness, but certainly not to the degree that it prevented them from being able to know & comprehend that what they were doing was wrong physically, mentally, emotionally, morally, & ethically. In my opinion, they lustfully & very willingly allowed their sexual desires & love of money to steer them down a path they arrogantly thought they would get away with. In the event that they got caught, well then the plan changed & they decided to just blame it on God. Nobody's supposed to question God, right?
See, that's just it. Cult ideology and buying into it isn't mental illness. I admit it's something, duabolical, evil, but these folks aren't crazy. They have, imo opinion and experience, suspended accepted norms and behavior which enables them to do the evil they do and justify it.
Yea! I for the first time have had literal nightmares about LS. It is devastating. My heart breaks for the families. I’m a mom and stepmom and I’m horrified
@@shaymoody6788 Same. 💔
Lori's attorney is a pain in the as*.
@@bonnylouwho76 Yes, I have not been real happy with the Judge. I feel he has been overly tolerant of Lori's attorneys many many objections. I just want to tell him to sit down and hush.
@@vickinoeske1154 I'm upset that the judge took the death penalty off of the table for Lori. I hope that the judge in Arizona doesn't do the same for her part in Charles's murder.
Something is wrong, there's definitely some cut off part of Dr. Christensen's testimony at the end of this recording.
@@bonnylouwho76 they’re not gonna acquit and let Lori free just cuz he’s a donkey. That’s a smoked out thought 🤣
Yes!
From McKinney, Texas- where's the remainder of the anthropologist's testimony? She's rocking it & as a cultural anthropologist myself, I'm VERY interested in the rest of her comments. She's AWESOME!!!
She finished testifying on the stand this morning 04/27/23 😊
Why on Part 2 and here on this video did the audio just cut off? Where's the rest of the direct?
The wood ,& rocks & careful preparation etc sound like the work of Chad, having been a grave digger etc.
The burials were done at different times and the treatment of their bodies, as well. Maybe, Chad had more time to be methodical w/ JJs burial.
After what they did to Tylee’s body, which had taken far more time, Chad had to hurry the burial, because some of his children still lived on property.
I’ve been waiting for this.
What happened to all the blood from Tylees decapitated head and arms/leg's?
The difference with a burn is that the heat actually stops the blood from flowing. A small bit of blood may ooze out at first, but it won't actually bleed much. Chad probably burned her body before he dismembered her body.
Poor Tylee
He just dismembered her in his backyard? And no one saw anything?
In other words it appears that the pelvic girdle( hips, sacrum and coccyx) was being hacked at by some tool to break it down into smaller pieces for burial since it is a pretty large boney area.
They were stabbing her w a pick axe or a pitch fork ?!
@@SuperDuppydoo yes
Can I call you Doctor? Are you a doctor?
Answers "yes, I have a PhD"
Proceeds to say "ok, Ma'am..... 🙄
I can't with the lady prosecutor, all the ums and fumbling of exhibits, it's just a bad job
Where's the rest? Dr. Christensen asks a clarifying question about the exhibit "You mean this one right here?" Prosecutor Smith responds "Yes ma'am" and then it ends!
There must be a part 2 because the thumb nail says part 1.
I think the uploader may have gotten confused or possibly EIN is doing things in a new way? Part 2 also cuts off (I think in the same spot) and there’s no part 3. At least not yet.
@@tracyrobo7606 I checked Twitter and saw comments that the testimony ended abruptly right at 3:30 PM per the Judge. It makes sense EIN would go ahead and title Dr. Angi Christensen testimony part 1 since there has to be a part 2. I wonder if the court cut the audio early before they supplied it to EIN 🤔
@@CSIPiper it looks like what they are doing is Part 1 (all morning testimony) and Part 2 (all afternoon testimony).
It also appears they are uploading individual witness testimony which I appreciate. Apparently Dr. Angi Christensen was the last on the stand on 4/26/2023 and will be back on the stand 4/27/2023; it made sense to title her testimony from Wednesday as part 1 since there will be a part 2.
@@TsoniDoya ah ok. Thank you
Justice for Tyle and JJ,,!!!
Justice for Charles and Tammy!!!!!
This was your baby, Lori!!!!!!! Shame on your evil heart. This is NOT Gods work.
Heat from the Fire Pit, with some accelerant. 🤬💔😥
I feel so sad hearing about these children .. I hoped they did not suffer but I do not believe….That to be the case . There are no words .. I don’t know how this jury could not convict this woman . She was supposed to protect her children not have them mutilated … she obviously is not of sound mind but idc ….she deserves to suffer, an eye for an eye .
Ugghhhh😫 I thought this version would have the full audio, but it cut off early too!
What carnivore would have gotten to Tylee's bones and how?
Daybells have dogs
@@sandrahill-qn6hb But the bones were buried..and were found buried onJune 9th .
@@misskelly9821 they stated not as buried as well as jj...if the grave is too shallow, its not hard for an animal to dig a bone up.
@@sandrahill-qn6hb which who knows if they were being fed.... smh
@@misskelly9821 Exactly. The bones were not found above ground. Doesn’t that mean that the bones had to be marked (by animal activity or something) before they were buried where they were found by the authorities?
The attorney is another one that says "um" a thousand times and it is very annoying. She is the same one that questioned Alex's wife, and between the both of them and their "ums" I was about ready to tear my hair out!!!
Drove me nuts.
I know!!!! I can't take it anymore, she is bad at this
I still cannot believe these Defense Attorneys have such a limited understanding of the Science being used by this FBI Anthropological PhD. Granted their speciality is the Law, but they could have hired a Grad Student from the State University to explain it to them so they do not sound quite so uneducated in this field. These are Junior level Biology/Anatomy questions while questioning about the photos. (Imagine Beavis and Butthead “haa haa She said MRI” ).
That was really embarrassing for those attourneys.
The defense attys have nothing but to always question a witness testimony. I'm surprised any one would want to defend this satan worshipper. Nothing but Evil!!!
It's for the jury, smarty-pants.
Just because the attorney asked questions doesn't necessarily mean she herself didn't understand, but rather to help the jury understand and to get the information on record. IMO
Sounds like the Defense Attys did not hire their own expert to ask better questions of both Pathologist and Forensic Anthropologist.
VOIR DIRE! VOIR DIRE!
My gosh this defense attorney is ridiculous! He also only asks questions about a witness’s experience- to try to discredit them somehow. And so rude Mr Thomas is when he gets frustrated. Not a very experienced defense attorney Lori received. And if Chad loves her so much, why hasn’t he taken all the responsibility and claimed high and low Lori knew nothing. Wonder how the defenses case will go…..we will see. She needs to rot for the rest of her days.
She's almost 50 years old, what's with the Pebbles hairdo? It's not helping her to look younger! 😂
Who has the Pebbles hairdo?
Lori
😂😂😂
The ‘Pebbles hairdo’ is likely because in jail the authorities are not allowing any hair items such as curling irons, ect with which to ‘do her hair’.
I’m suspecting that she asked her lawyer for a rubber band, perhaps? 🤷♀️
@@bonnylouwho76 Bingo!
Wait, wait, wait...
Tylee's bones were "chewed on by a carnivore"???
Wtf? 🤢
Yes, remember the text to Tammy.
He said he shot a raccoon. I’m betting that is the carnivore.
I wish the Prosecutor would have asked, dog or raccoon, rather than dog or cat.
@@dianealarcon8304THE WHOLE REASON THAT LE SUSPECTED AND THEN FOUND THE KIDS BURIED IN THE BACKYARD IS BECAUSE OF THAT TEXT.... AND THE REASON LE NOTICED THAT PARTICULAR TEXT IS BECAUSE RACCOONS ARE NOCTURNAL WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT OUT ROAMING IN THE DAY. NOT TOO MENTION THE FACT THAT RACCOONS DO NOT EAT THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY DEAD. IT HAS TO BE A FRESH KILL FOR THEM. NO, IT WASN'T A 🦝 BUT CHAD HAD DOGS....
My,God. So so sad.howw,can they justify. Small minded po$×!+. Self entitled important s that doesn't Exist.
I'm not a big fan of Ms. Smith, I wish Mr. Wood was leading the state.
Her speaking ability during questioning contains too many fillers such as “um” and “uh”..I start to get tired listening to her regardless of an interesting witness..
@@misskelly9821 Did you hear Zulema? She was the worst! I had to stop listening to her.
I think she’s okay but could be sharperZ the evidence alone should carry the case tho.
What the hell caused thise marks on Tylee if not dismemberment?!
What marks?
Defense does not seem to be well versed on the science at all.
Voir dire! Voir dire! 😂
He is ridiculous!
The defence will try to pin the killing and handling of the bodies on Chad Daybell, there could be no doubt about that. I personally believe Alex Cox killed and handled it all but he took his orders from Lori, she's the brain behind it. I doubt Chad Daybell handled the bodies for two reasons - why would he bury the remains in his own backyard which would be the first place for the Police to look for them and the bodies were buried shallowly, at least in JJ's case. Chad Daybell is a professional gravedigger, he wouldn't have committed those two mistakes. I'm thinking Lori was setting him up just in case she would need it later, for monetary or legal reasons. Lori is driven by greed, Chad was more driven by his passion for Lori and she used that and was going to continue to use men like that. There's no way Chad was Lori's end game, he wasn't wealthy enough to be, she would have moved on to her next host animal as soon as the money well ran dry. I think Chad Daybell has understood the entire thing by now and he feels stupid and embarrassed for being so gullible and manipulated by Lori, also realising that she's going to blame all of it on him.
Chad is knee deep in this ritualistic burial and burning, all for his envisioned church of the first born.
He knew full well they were on his property. He checked the wind direction for the nights burning, he was caught looking back towards burial site while sitting in his car, and he fled from his property when he saw they were digging in the right spot.
Chad was a grave Digger by trade😮and this makes me wonder when his first infraction against human remains may have taken place.
EXACTLY!!!!
Chad ate her leg. I’m not kidding.
Don't make shit up to make things more interesting. Have some respect especially when you aren't involved with any more knowledge than the rest of us.
@@s.c.2424 this comes from psychic reverend donna who predicted about everything about the remeains
Oh my gosh! Why would you say such a thing?!? That is so false and saying that is so crude & disrespectful to Tylee and the family that loves her. This isn’t Silence of the lamb!
You and Lori would get along it seems!
If these evil pair hadn't been caught, it was only going to be a matter of time to Chad's family were bumped off!! Evil to the core!! What they did you couldn't do to an animal!!
@@jimskeuh THANK YOU
32:46 *Dismemberm•nt typically occurr around joints making the remains into smaller pieces for disposal. All of the sharp trauma are directed at the pelvic region🤬It’s definitely possible Tylee was SA’d. I empathize with the trauma the victims are enduring/endured. I hope they find peace & get justice*
So much rage was taken out on Tylee. I wonder now if Lori was present at this ritualistic dismemberment and burning.
Horrible.
Who woulda sA d tylee ... uncle alex or chad ?