This was the most honest assessment of the City of Syracuse that I have ever read. You hit on all the points that need to be addressed to someone that may be thinking of moving here. Your reporting on both sides of the coin is spot on. I currently live in Westchester County and everyone always reports that this area is the "place to be"! Well, Syracuse can be the "place to be" based on your honesty in reporting of the pros, cons and facts. While no place is heaven, Syracuse is pretty much a rung on that staircase in so many good ways. Thank you!
I grew up east of Syracuse in the small town of Cazenovia in the 70’s and 80’s. I spent a lot of time in Syracuse because of family and there was nothing to do in Caz. I’ve been out of the state since 93 and have visited several times. Things I miss: 1. Having real winters. 60 degrees at the holidays is depressing and I don’t look forward to spring. Summers in central New York are very nice too. 2. Great food, especially Italian food, pizza and sandwiches. Pavones Pizza! I miss the Brooklyn Pickle subs and sandwiches! 3. It isn’t trendy and cosmopolitan and people are pretty real and for the most part, they are easy to talk to 4. Lack of any real traffic 5. Low cost of living. Yes, the property taxes are high but it still comes out cheaper by a long shot.
My husband spent a lot of his childhood in Syracuse. We've been to the Great New York state Fair many many times. It's also close to the Finger Lakes. One of our favorite towns is Skaneateles.
I've lived in Syracuse since 1982, I am now 62 yrs. old. I am recently retired due to health issues, my husband is still at his job where he's been for 37 yrs. We own our home on the near west side not far from downtown. Yes the crime is totally out of control. Partly due to lack of parenting & the NYS bail reform & all that comes w/ it. There is no longer accountability for criminal behavior in NYS. There are many apartments in ghetto areas charging the same rental fee you mentioned for a piece of crap apt. The are good landlords & there are slumlords. During the pandemic no one was required to pay rent even if they still were employed during that time. We used to rent out our back apt. in the house that we live in. We hardly ever got our full rent paid ( which was only 55o.oo a month) so we no longer rent to anyone. Our last tenants son intentionally started a fire in that apt . because his father didn't want him there. Not a huge amount of damage thankfully. I just wanted to give you my prospective on that side of the issue.
Dude, you didn't mention the NY State Fair, 14-18 days of summer fun and easily accessible for anyone living in Syracuse... because it's in Syracuse! Before the pandemic I'd try to get there 2 or 3 times to check everything out and sample food that would be harder to get outside of the Fair. As for the snow... I'll just say you'd have hated the year we got 192", which was pretty miserable, but still way, way less than what Oswego got that year at around 325"... I'll give you that one, even though I actually love snow; someone's got to. lol
True, the fair us a good mention. I think I didn't mention it at the time because I wanted to say stuff that is always available in Syracuse as pros. Good point though, thanks for the input haha.
This video was great. I've been to Syracuse twice in the past 8 months. I loved it! My family and I want to move, but unsure of which neighborhoods are good and bad. We loved Dewitt and Liverpool area. I was wondering if there are any other good towns/places that we could feel okay with my 14 year old son going to school. I saw nice homes in the city but I wasn't too sure of the type of neighborhood it was because it was day time. I am from Brooklyn NY... so the crime here is ridiculous. I'll take half the crime anywhere else. haha. Thanks.
I live in Liverpool - (close to the North Syracuse border). The Liverpool Central School District (LCSD) is phenomenal as well; DeWitt is also a nice area. There are also a lot of family-oriented events around, lots of county and state parks in the area. Our children are all grown up and went to the LCSD. Oh.. and one interesting thing - nature-wise. We have the largest congregation of eagles in the northeast! They can actually be seen out of the back parking lot of Destiny USA (I'm guessing you may have seen it for you can't miss it if you drove on Rt 81). I've photographed them a lot. As for the weather... Yes, we have cold and snowy weather - BUT, the snow removal and road prep is PHENOMENAL! There was only one day that I can remember where driving was questionable but that was after a blizzard went through in the late 1990s. Oh... and most of the "bad" issues of Syracuse do not truly apply outside of the city limits.
The best schools in the area are F-M (Fayetteville-Manlius), and J-D (Jamesville-DeWitt). As a private ESL tutor, I worked with students in both of those districts and they were well prepared. I went to school in the Syracuse Public School System. It's pretty rough, and violence was always a problem for me. Moving west. Westhill is a good district. I was particularly impressed with their art departments, but the students enjoyed school and were well prepared. Having said that, despite having lived here all my life (except for eight years), I would absolutely disagree with this video when he states public transportation is good. If the busses ran more frequently, the system might work. But getting anywhere a bus doesn't directly go is a HUGE investment in time. There is no train system. For example, I live near SU. In the morning, it takes a minimum of two hours to get from here to Liverpool, which means a four hour commute daily. Liverpool is about eight miles from here. The roads are well set up, but civic services are carried out with less regularity than necessary. I was stuck on my street last year for 36 hours after a snow storm, because the plows skipped our street; I live on a big hill in the city proper. The people are nice. The weather sucks. I would just add this to the above. By the way, I have lived in Boston and NYC, for points of comparison.
I’m a Syracuse resident and you were right about the violence in Syracuse but you ain’t mention how close the violence is to downtown. And it’s the near west side that is rough. And the number 4 con is drugs
Yess thank you I say don’t live in Syracuse if you have a choice ..... the outskirts are plenty close and centro goes right there too .... but that’s just me I love my city . I spent so much time there . There’s much to love but it’s getting crazy inside the city limits anywhere. But I understand he spent 2 years here so I never knew how rough it can be until I ventured outside of armory square and destiny USA lol
My company is located in the near west side a few blocks west from Armory Square on West Fayette, bordering a really rough neighborhood to the south of us. We have gotten broken into several times, but it's usually not the local residents. The local troublemakers prefer to just break windows and throw trash everywhere. It's also easy to spot the drug houses, I know what a drug deal looks like and they don't even try to hide it. There are some people that are working really hard to improve the neighborhood without gentrifying it and driving current residents out, so there's hope. I'm only still here because I love my job and the company I work for. Otherwise I'd have moved away a long time ago. I live outside the city in a nice quiet neighborhood now.
Crime doesn’t scare people like me away from a place I like. I’m from Newhaven Connecticut. And I pretty much learned don’t try to be gangsta or something you’re not and what goes on in the streets won’t personally effect you. Unless a bullet flies through your window or for whatever reason you were chosen to get robbed. Lastly it may effect you the most if you’re like me and want the best for your community.
@@kristynlangley9672 Why do you love that place ? I lived there when it WAS good but now forget it. Downtown BEEN GONE YEARS AGO ! there is nothing there to love or hold on to, the tight black community that lived in the pioneer homes and the Bricks are ALL GONE. People who are progressive and want something out of life won't live in a place like that, have you noticed the S.U. Students graduate and LEAVE, they don't stay and build families there because Syracuse has nothing to offer them other than university college if you travel down rt 90 west and get off at the Rochester NY exit you will see a totally different environment ( yes there is crime in the INNER city areas ) but Rochester is a FAMILY CITY 🎉 they have TONS of stuff to do for families and it's not expensive for example they have a Children's Museum that is GIGANTIC ! you can spend hours in that place enjoying your family they have a Butterfly room with butterflies from all over the US flying around. Syracuse has never ever had anything even close to that, Rochester even has a AMUSEMENT PARK called Sea breeze and it is very nice.
Pretty good assessment. I lived there from 2016-2018, and I'd say my fav pro was Stella's Diner ( not far from the mall ) and attending comedy shows in the mall itself, and yes, the almost NO traffic ( even on a Fri evening! ) I lived in Liverpool off Morgan Rd and my rent then was only about $930/mo, and it was a 2bd/1.5 ba apt about 930 sq ft. The winters there can get bad, but at least they waste *no* time in plowing the streets and parking lots. The crime there is bad ( or at least was then ) but I never made friends ( outside of the people I worked with there, who I despised most of them lol ) as easy as I did, in Syracuse too. Most folks there are friendly. About the potholes, yes, I would say all of upstate NY ( outside of Buffalo and Albany ) is very neglected. Utica is bad too, but Binghamton is the worst.
Part of the reason that traffic isn't bad is that the city's population has dropped from about 220,00 to about 150,000, so the roads were designed for a larger city. The weather is pretty bad - historical average snowfall is 123" per year, most of any city in the U.S. and it rains a lot in the other seasons. The countryside is pretty nice. I grew up there but haven't been back in years. A lot of the amenities and culture, sports etc. depend on Syracuse University. @@naudianeels1328
Since then, rent has skyrocketed, absolutely crazy for what Syracuse is, which is falling apart, sad. Lived here most my childhood through 97, moved back in 21, food is awesome, but is in need for some serious help.
Nice video bro. I never lived in Syracuse but have visited so many times when I was in college up @ Oswego going my frat bros parties @ Syracuse University. Even when I did go off campus into the city I never went far. So many other videos I have seen about Syracuse the people trash the city. Like all big cities. You have your hood & bad parts.
I first moved to Syracuse from a NY cowtown in 1978. Moved away several times but mostly to be near family I moved back. From age 22 to 45 most of my life was Syracuse. A great city. Also lived in Rochester and now Buffalo.
One thing to consider if you move Syracuse is to pronounce it correctly!!!! It is not Saracuse it’s Searacuse!!!! Got it ??? You don’t pronounce Syria … Saria❤️
I grew up in and outside NYC, and I lived in Syracuse for several years before moving to LA. I would say to make sure you have a solid financial plan and check all the cost of living/wage comparison sites btwn the 2 cities first.
I was born and raised in Syracuse (in ALL the bad places, LOL - including the projects right BEHIND the on ramp to 81 South!) and relocated to Brooklyn in 2005. YES, I tell people all the time - Syracuse is TWICE as violent as they THINK NYC is, and it's actually been that way for as long as I can remember (yes, it has increased). That, and the homelessness, are directly tied to the fact that Syracuse is one of the poorest cities in America, with a nearly 30% poverty rate (for cities with over 100,000 people). Awesome observations! 😄
I grew up in Syracuse and I used too live in Syracuse and I go visit in Syracuse in the summer times and fall times and it's need help avoid crimes and drugs and alcohol and rebuild more places for people to live and to help cleaning up the mess off the streets and Syracuse is a nice place to live but it's the crimes and I used too work Onondaga Community College for part-time jobs and I'll might move back to Syracuse
One con that missed the list- property taxes are absolutely outrageous. Especially if you are in Liverpool village or fayetville areas, you can be paying just shy of 10k annually on a 125k tiny house on 0.3 acres. Also rents have absolutely popped off since covid, if you can even find an apartment in the first place
We have a house in California and we're buying an investment property in Syracuse and maybe ship one of our eight kids to or rent out yes houses are being sold for super cheap that is telling but hey if you hold onto it for long enough I'm sure they'll be a turnaround in a good profit
Hello. Yes, I am actually really thinking about relocating to Syracuse. I currently live in the Bronx and my lease will be ending at the end of April. I love the snow, and I do not mind the homeless. Only thing that makes me nervous is living in a very bad area. I want to be safe. But anyway, can you please let me know about some safe areas that areas, please? I am also on Facebook
Syracuse isnt really that violent. I feel like thats something people say because other people repeat it. Also alot of people who live in the suburbs like Camillus or Dewitt have those stereotypes about the city itself.
VERY informative video. Was thinkimg of buying a mult-family there since the property is so reasonable. Kinda confused now. I live in NYC & DESPERATELY want to own some property-IN the state.
Email me if you're still interested. You can make good money on the right purchase, and you ABSOLUTELY need someone that knows the lay of the land or has people that do.
Great video of Syracuse I lived in the city all my life one pro you didn’t mention about Syracuse is the mall Destiny USA great mall to catch a movie at other than that great video.
To be real with you, most cities with high crime you can live in and not be bothered, as long as you mind your own business and you don't have any problems with anybody, You'll be good, but Philly, Chicago, New Orleans, Bronx I can't say the same for (LA just have to be careful what you wear)
What are the requirements to rent apartments in Syracuse? NYC requires good credit rating and 40x income so $3500 rental in NYC requires income of $140,000 yrly income, is Syracuse using the same 40x rule or do they use the standard 3x rule? What resources did tou use to find your $595/$615 monthly rental?
The only requirement for me was a deposit and first months rent. There were no credit checks. I believe there was some type of rule for my employment but it's definitely not too crazy. You just have to say what job you're going to do and how much you'll make in a year. It didn't matter as long as you could afford a month's rent. To get my apartment I just searched through apartments.com and found it.
He is being nice about Syracuse but im just going to be honest about it. Syracuse was Good back in the 60s and 70s but once all the Department stores left downtown and moved out into the Malls, it was Over for Syracuse. Everything it had going for it left and because its in the middle of Nowhere there is nothing attractive about it. It never really was a Vibrant family place to begin with, the City planners never cared to make it a happening city they tried to host a jazz fest in the 90s and it started out good being 7 days long but like every thing they try to do, it desolved down to 2 days then they took it from downtown and moved it to the OCC campus then it moved from there to jamesville beach, now its back downtown the Carousel Mall was Great but again they changed it to destiny mall with hardly any stores in it ( all the really nice stores left )
I personally thought the bus schedules were pretty good. This is also coming from someone who didn't have a car more than half of the time I was there.
I always tell people, if there is one thing that Syracuse has, it's an amazing amount of great restaurants. A lot of them are hidden gems in outlying neighborhoods that you have to know where they are or you won't just come across them. I drive 81 every day and it does look like shit, and the number of asshole drivers is ridiculous. The plan is to remove it entirely going through the city, route traffic going north around the city on 481 (which would also have to be completely overhauled to handle the extra traffic), and create a "community grid" starting just south of SU hill to just north of 690. They made it look like the public had a say in it, whether it was going to be replaced as it is or go the way of the grid, but everybody knows it was just lip service. That was a few years ago and nothing has gone forward with it. And when we get a lot of snow, the side streets, especially in some certain neighborhoods, they either don't bother plowing, or the locals just park wherever they want so plows can't get down the street to clear them. There is alternate side parking in effect, but it's largely ignored, and they don't tow cars in violation of it. Syracuse prides itself on being "progressive", but it sure seems to not make much progress on anything meaningful. Seems like most changes are just vanity projects. It's the locals that are doing the most on their own without the local government's help. I don't hate it here, and I have a ton of family and great friends, a good job, and plenty to do... but when I retire, I'm out of here. Great video!
I hate the burgers at Ale n Angus. The beef isn’t my jam. Amazing Italian food in Syracuse & Onondaga county in general. Lacross is huge in most of NYS. Public transport is horrible, as there’s a lack of it, especially after pandemic, they cut routes & schedules. Getting a bus outside of Syracuse, such as a morning commute from even 1 mile out of city proper, is non existent. Crime: juvenile crime has skyrocketed! Fentanyl is gaining traction & weapons use is rising. Home owner’s & business owners are obligated to clear snow off their sidewalks, but they never do. And homelessness amongst youth & mentally challenged is rising, but majority of the straight panhandlers are not homeless. They’re just panhandlers, including the fake fiddlers. Plows & salt destroy the roads, but they do not plow side streets, & if school is canceled, they focus on University area, since that’s where all the hospitals & campus are. But the surface roads are physically not well maintained outside of the “Hill” area, of downtown, outlying “residential neighborhoods” are decently maintained, Sedgwick area, Eastwood area, roads are better than South or West sides of city
I’m from Newhaven Connecticut lived in the “hood” all my life. lots crime happen. Never had a serious problem personally. On top of that I stayed out of the streets. So crime unless it’s St. Louis,nyc,Chicago type of crime.
This was 10 months ago, but I have a question for you. Can you tell me where you can live in Syracuse that less violent or some of the outlying areas that are just as expensive this was a great video. Thank you.?
Hey! I would say check the areas around East Ave and check down the hill. That's where I lived. I haven't been in Syracuse for almost a couple years so it's for me to give you a good suggestion I'm sorry. I would just say avoid the Lower Northside and the Southside. I lived on the east side! And I hear west side is good too.
Tipp Hill and Eastwood have usually been considered two of the better neighborhoods within the city, though I've heard in my last visit there that Eastwood has had a few issues crop up. Far Westside is down the hill north of Tipp Hill, and isn't bad. He's right about the northside in general, but if you're close to or north of Court St, you'll be OK. Westside - you'd REALLY have to know the blocks: there's a reason why the area ranks among the poorest neighborhoods in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. Some streets/blocks are OK, and some ain't. Park Avenue is OK (east of S Geddes is better). I'd be very wary of Skunk City downhill from W. Onondaga, but uphill of W. Onondaga is going twds the Strathmore area, and that's decent. STAY THE F AWAY FROM DELAWARE AVE & THE W ONONDAGA/DELAWARE/S. GEDDES TRIANGLE AREA! It was baaaaad when I left the city in 2016 and it's still bad now. Southside - part of me hates the rep it has in part because it is heavy in African-American residents. That said, you'd have to know someone locally who knows which blocks in particular are OK. Otherwise, you'd be better off looking in the Valley which is right south of southside (Seneca Turnpike).
Just lost my car. Believe or not, busses run on a schedule. No ,20;minuit interval and NO SIBWAY. so if you drive and can afford parking and gas...it's ok.
The 5th pro about transport is not true, from what I've seen since I was born here at least. My sister went to college at Onondaga community college (OCC) and it was a 30 minute drive so she tried to take the Centro bus system at least 5 times and every time they took wrong turns and went past the bus stop by our house that it was supposed to stop at. Also the I 81 highway sucks in so many ways yet they still haven't taken it down. That's just what I've seen and experienced from the transport but it might be different for you.
I'm sorry, but not true at all. Did you even watch the video? Syracuse has the cheapest rent I've ever seen. And again, the place I was staying in was in a good neighborhood and it was spacious.
@@jabsskywalker Agreed. I live up the hill from the Valley towards the east, and I have a nice apartment for not much money. I leased a condo outside of Seattle a while ago and it was almost 5 times what I pay for this place.
In comparison to before 2019, when rent increases were nominal, then yeah I can see why you'd say that. But in comparison to many of the big cities, it's still pretty cheap.
I was surprised to learn that the homelessness based on your statistics is not as bad where I live now. The pop of Syracuse is over 146,000 and with your numbers of 619 homeless people. Where I live, general pop is a little over 175,000 with a homeless pop of 3,000. Syracuse doesn't look so bad, although I'm sure crime is something to consider.
WOOOOOOW! I live in NYC & I was SHOCKED when someone informed me how 'reasonable' the houses are to buy. Was thinking of buying a house there. Now I am not too certain based on your comment. Maybe I should visit first.
@@tarawalton6778 As for real estate, the housing prices are almost the lowest as compared to the other Counties in NY State. Incidentally, this is Onondaga County. I live in Liverpool NY - roughly a 15 minute ride to downtown Syracuse - Other areas in the county that I recommend are Fayetteville, North Syracuse, Manlius, (oh yeah, great theater and other big concerts that come through here)
Eh, I grew up there but moved to a worse place as it turned out. I actually love CNY as a whole, get a place outside the city, Baldwinville, Onandaga, etc. America is effed at this point but I'd still rather be around Syracuse than a lot of other places.
That was the winter of '92-'93 and most of it was only because of a Blizzard... but yes, we average 120" a whole season.. lately the snow hasn't been that bad and at times, it comes and goes, doesn't mean we have 192" on the ground all at once... that's over a whole winter season.. Hell of a lot better then loosing your house/home to a hurricane, tornado or earthquake..
I honestly didn't venture outside the city too much but I would say Central New York is notorious for that stuff just outside of cities. Personally, I didn't really experience that too much. In some cases even in downtown Syracuse, there were bars that had "dress codes" and I'm like I know what you're trying to say.
This was the most honest assessment of the City of Syracuse that I have ever read.
You hit on all the points that need to be addressed to someone that may be thinking of moving here.
Your reporting on both sides of the coin is spot on.
I currently live in Westchester County and everyone always reports that this area is the "place to be"!
Well, Syracuse can be the "place to be" based on your honesty in reporting of the pros, cons and facts.
While no place is heaven, Syracuse is pretty much a rung on that staircase in so many good ways.
Thank you!
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for your feedback, have a great day!
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I grew up east of Syracuse in the small town of Cazenovia in the 70’s and 80’s. I spent a lot of time in Syracuse because of family and there was nothing to do in Caz. I’ve been out of the state since 93 and have visited several times.
Things I miss:
1. Having real winters. 60 degrees at the holidays is depressing and I don’t look forward to spring. Summers in central New York are very nice too.
2. Great food, especially Italian food, pizza and sandwiches. Pavones Pizza!
I miss the Brooklyn Pickle subs and sandwiches!
3. It isn’t trendy and cosmopolitan and people are pretty real and for the most part, they are easy to talk to
4. Lack of any real traffic
5. Low cost of living. Yes, the property taxes are high but it still comes out cheaper by a long shot.
all you have is fake italian food restoraunts but what do you know about different cusine
Sal's Birdland was unfortunately a well kept secret
My husband spent a lot of his childhood in Syracuse. We've been to the Great New York state Fair many many times. It's also close to the Finger Lakes. One of our favorite towns is Skaneateles.
Glad you guys had some time there! I loved the state fair!
I've lived in Syracuse since 1982, I am now 62 yrs. old. I am recently retired due to health issues, my husband is still at his job where he's been for 37 yrs. We own our home on the near west side not far from downtown. Yes the crime is totally out of control. Partly due to lack of parenting & the NYS bail reform & all that comes w/ it. There is no longer accountability for criminal behavior in NYS. There are many apartments in ghetto areas charging the same rental fee you mentioned for a piece of crap apt. The are good landlords & there are slumlords. During the pandemic no one was required to pay rent even if they still were employed during that time. We used to rent out our back apt. in the house that we live in. We hardly ever got our full rent paid ( which was only 55o.oo a month) so we no longer rent to anyone. Our last tenants son intentionally started a fire in that apt . because his father didn't want him there. Not a huge amount of damage thankfully. I just wanted to give you my prospective on that side of the issue.
Dude, you didn't mention the NY State Fair, 14-18 days of summer fun and easily accessible for anyone living in Syracuse... because it's in Syracuse! Before the pandemic I'd try to get there 2 or 3 times to check everything out and sample food that would be harder to get outside of the Fair.
As for the snow... I'll just say you'd have hated the year we got 192", which was pretty miserable, but still way, way less than what Oswego got that year at around 325"... I'll give you that one, even though I actually love snow; someone's got to. lol
True, the fair us a good mention. I think I didn't mention it at the time because I wanted to say stuff that is always available in Syracuse as pros. Good point though, thanks for the input haha.
This video was great. I've been to Syracuse twice in the past 8 months. I loved it! My family and I want to move, but unsure of which neighborhoods are good and bad. We loved Dewitt and Liverpool area. I was wondering if there are any other good towns/places that we could feel okay with my 14 year old son going to school. I saw nice homes in the city but I wasn't too sure of the type of neighborhood it was because it was day time. I am from Brooklyn NY... so the crime here is ridiculous. I'll take half the crime anywhere else. haha. Thanks.
I live in Liverpool - (close to the North Syracuse border). The Liverpool Central School District (LCSD) is phenomenal as well; DeWitt is also a nice area. There are also a lot of family-oriented events around, lots of county and state parks in the area. Our children are all grown up and went to the LCSD. Oh.. and one interesting thing - nature-wise. We have the largest congregation of eagles in the northeast! They can actually be seen out of the back parking lot of Destiny USA (I'm guessing you may have seen it for you can't miss it if you drove on Rt 81). I've photographed them a lot. As for the weather... Yes, we have cold and snowy weather - BUT, the snow removal and road prep is PHENOMENAL! There was only one day that I can remember where driving was questionable but that was after a blizzard went through in the late 1990s. Oh... and most of the "bad" issues of Syracuse do not truly apply outside of the city limits.
I would reccommend west hill, b'vill , west genny area. You might want to consider just north in Oswego county as well !
The best schools in the area are F-M (Fayetteville-Manlius), and J-D (Jamesville-DeWitt). As a private ESL tutor, I worked with students in both of those districts and they were well prepared. I went to school in the Syracuse Public School System. It's pretty rough, and violence was always a problem for me. Moving west. Westhill is a good district. I was particularly impressed with their art departments, but the students enjoyed school and were well prepared.
Having said that, despite having lived here all my life (except for eight years), I would absolutely disagree with this video when he states public transportation is good. If the busses ran more frequently, the system might work. But getting anywhere a bus doesn't directly go is a HUGE investment in time. There is no train system. For example, I live near SU. In the morning, it takes a minimum of two hours to get from here to Liverpool, which means a four hour commute daily. Liverpool is about eight miles from here. The roads are well set up, but civic services are carried out with less regularity than necessary. I was stuck on my street last year for 36 hours after a snow storm, because the plows skipped our street; I live on a big hill in the city proper.
The people are nice. The weather sucks. I would just add this to the above. By the way, I have lived in Boston and NYC, for points of comparison.
Excellent informations!!! Thank you!
You're very welcome, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! Ive been looking up different cities in NYS, I love being near family but staying in NYC just doesn’t seem suited to me.
No problem! This would be a perfect start for you!
I’m a Syracuse resident and you were right about the violence in Syracuse but you ain’t mention how close the violence is to downtown. And it’s the near west side that is rough. And the number 4 con is drugs
Yess thank you I say don’t live in Syracuse if you have a choice ..... the outskirts are plenty close and centro goes right there too .... but that’s just me I love my city . I spent so much time there . There’s much to love but it’s getting crazy inside the city limits anywhere. But I understand he spent 2 years here so I never knew how rough it can be until I ventured outside of armory square and destiny USA lol
My company is located in the near west side a few blocks west from Armory Square on West Fayette, bordering a really rough neighborhood to the south of us. We have gotten broken into several times, but it's usually not the local residents. The local troublemakers prefer to just break windows and throw trash everywhere. It's also easy to spot the drug houses, I know what a drug deal looks like and they don't even try to hide it.
There are some people that are working really hard to improve the neighborhood without gentrifying it and driving current residents out, so there's hope.
I'm only still here because I love my job and the company I work for. Otherwise I'd have moved away a long time ago. I live outside the city in a nice quiet neighborhood now.
Crime doesn’t scare people like me away from a place I like. I’m from Newhaven Connecticut. And I pretty much learned don’t try to be gangsta or something you’re not and what goes on in the streets won’t personally effect you. Unless a bullet flies through your window or for whatever reason you were chosen to get robbed. Lastly it may effect you the most if you’re like me and want the best for your community.
@@kristynlangley9672 Why do you love that place ? I lived there when it WAS good but now forget it. Downtown BEEN GONE YEARS AGO ! there is nothing there to love or hold on to, the tight black community that lived in the pioneer homes and the Bricks are ALL GONE. People who are progressive and want something out of life won't live in a place like that, have you noticed the S.U. Students graduate and LEAVE, they don't stay and build families there because Syracuse has nothing to offer them other than university college if you travel down rt 90 west and get off at the Rochester NY exit you will see a totally different environment ( yes there is crime in the INNER city areas ) but Rochester is a FAMILY CITY 🎉 they have TONS of stuff to do for families and it's not expensive for example they have a Children's Museum that is GIGANTIC ! you can spend hours in that place enjoying your family they have a Butterfly room with butterflies from all over the US flying around. Syracuse has never ever had anything even close to that, Rochester even has a AMUSEMENT PARK called Sea breeze and it is very nice.
You forgot one more Pro! Shopping at Wegmans. 👍
Ahh how could I forget!? lol
Pretty good assessment. I lived there from 2016-2018, and I'd say my fav pro was Stella's Diner ( not far from the mall ) and attending comedy shows in the mall itself, and yes, the almost NO traffic ( even on a Fri evening! ) I lived in Liverpool off Morgan Rd and my rent then was only about $930/mo, and it was a 2bd/1.5 ba apt about 930 sq ft. The winters there can get bad, but at least they waste *no* time in plowing the streets and parking lots. The crime there is bad ( or at least was then ) but I never made friends ( outside of the people I worked with there, who I despised most of them lol ) as easy as I did, in Syracuse too. Most folks there are friendly. About the potholes, yes, I would say all of upstate NY ( outside of Buffalo and Albany ) is very neglected. Utica is bad too, but Binghamton is the worst.
Hardly no traffic? Even on a Friday night? Sounds amazing!! So much traffic where I'm at. Ugh 😩😫😩
Part of the reason that traffic isn't bad is that the city's population has dropped from about 220,00 to about 150,000, so the roads were designed for a larger city. The weather is pretty bad - historical average snowfall is 123" per year, most of any city in the U.S. and it rains a lot in the other seasons. The countryside is pretty nice. I grew up there but haven't been back in years. A lot of the amenities and culture, sports etc. depend on Syracuse University. @@naudianeels1328
Since then, rent has skyrocketed, absolutely crazy for what Syracuse is, which is falling apart, sad. Lived here most my childhood through 97, moved back in 21, food is awesome, but is in need for some serious help.
Nice video bro. I never lived in Syracuse but have visited so many times when I was in college up @ Oswego going my frat bros parties @ Syracuse University. Even when I did go off campus into the city I never went far. So many other videos I have seen about Syracuse the people trash the city. Like all big cities. You have your hood & bad parts.
Thanks so much man, hope you enjoyed your time in CUSE!
I first moved to Syracuse from a NY cowtown in 1978. Moved away several times but mostly to be near family I moved back. From age 22 to 45 most of my life was Syracuse. A great city. Also lived in Rochester and now Buffalo.
One thing to consider if you move Syracuse is to pronounce it correctly!!!! It is not Saracuse it’s Searacuse!!!! Got it ??? You don’t pronounce Syria … Saria❤️
@@TheEllgarr Yes, you don't say the y with an a sound, idk why people do that
I'm from NYC all my life I was thinking about moving to Syracuse great video
Thanks so much! I appreciate that!
I grew up in and outside NYC, and I lived in Syracuse for several years before moving to LA. I would say to make sure you have a solid financial plan and check all the cost of living/wage comparison sites btwn the 2 cities first.
I was born and raised in Syracuse (in ALL the bad places, LOL - including the projects right BEHIND the on ramp to 81 South!) and relocated to Brooklyn in 2005. YES, I tell people all the time - Syracuse is TWICE as violent as they THINK NYC is, and it's actually been that way for as long as I can remember (yes, it has increased). That, and the homelessness, are directly tied to the fact that Syracuse is one of the poorest cities in America, with a nearly 30% poverty rate (for cities with over 100,000 people). Awesome observations! 😄
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
I thought Binghamton was the poorest city?
Tks you are a great help because I like to check areas before I move. But you have make easy to know every thing blessing from our lord Jesus. Tks
You're very welcome! Have a great week!
Same to you!
@@MyrtaCasanova Thanks!
I grew up in Syracuse and I used too live in Syracuse and I go visit in Syracuse in the summer times and fall times and it's need help avoid crimes and drugs and alcohol and rebuild more places for people to live and to help cleaning up the mess off the streets and Syracuse is a nice place to live but it's the crimes and I used too work Onondaga Community College for part-time jobs and I'll might move back to Syracuse
Thank you for your videos it helps allot to know. Do you still live in Syracuse? Have done other videos of the city?
You're welcome! And no I don't unfortunately.
I've never seen so many Chinese restaurants and strip joints in my life. Just cruise along Erie Blvd and have some fun.
Yup! Pretty much lol.
Yup! Pretty much lol.
Thanks for your insights. I've decided to take the job in Portland,Oregon.😊
Careful in that Klan haven. There's a reason why Portland is the Whitest City in America.
And those streets though!!!! They will eat your entire axle if you mess around .... drive slow avoid pot holes whatever you do!!!!!
Big facts haha
Syracuse was beautiful in the mid 80s. Not been there since.
I haven't been back since I moved away haha. Thanks for watching!
Great video!
Thank you!
One con that missed the list- property taxes are absolutely outrageous. Especially if you are in Liverpool village or fayetville areas, you can be paying just shy of 10k annually on a 125k tiny house on 0.3 acres. Also rents have absolutely popped off since covid, if you can even find an apartment in the first place
True! Thanks for watching!
This is two years ago but Im planning to move there for work.. Im from Philippines and I dont know what to expect.
Wishing you the best! Yeah I don't live there now otherwise I'd do another video. I hope it's gotten better for ya.
I have noticed too many house are being sold for very cheap.. so before I bought one wanted to know if its a safe place for my family
We have a house in California and we're buying an investment property in Syracuse and maybe ship one of our eight kids to or rent out yes houses are being sold for super cheap that is telling but hey if you hold onto it for long enough I'm sure they'll be a turnaround in a good profit
@@LenaMMcKee lol ship one of your eight kids 😅
@Ten From the City not true. Those houses need extensive renovation. Second, Syracuse see's essentially zero appreciation. So
@Ten From the City not true. Those houses need extensive renovation. Second, Syracuse see's essentially zero appreciation. So
Syracuse is really safe in some areas and not at all safe in others.
Thanks for the info!!! You are a very handsome man💕💕
Thanks for watching!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. How is the area for being dog friendly?
It's a very dog friendly place, Syrcause has some hilly areas though so I'd just prepare for that haha.
Hello. Yes, I am actually really thinking about relocating to Syracuse. I currently live in the Bronx and my lease will be ending at the end of April. I love the snow, and I do not mind the homeless. Only thing that makes me nervous is living in a very bad area. I want to be safe. But anyway, can you please let me know about some safe areas that areas, please? I am also on Facebook
Hey, thanks for watching! I would recommend just staying away from the north and south sides of Syracuse. East and West sides are usually more safe.
Nice video, I want to move Syracuse, but I not have relatives there
Hope you have a safe moving journey, thanks for watching!
Syracuse isnt really that violent. I feel like thats something people say because other people repeat it. Also alot of people who live in the suburbs like Camillus or Dewitt have those stereotypes about the city itself.
VERY informative video. Was thinkimg of buying a mult-family there since the property is so reasonable. Kinda confused now. I live in NYC & DESPERATELY want to own some property-IN the state.
Thank you Tara! I'm wishing you the best!
Don't unless you have an on-site manager.
Don't do it. Syracuse is poor. And the liberals have made it easy for tenants to run your property.
@@Mark.Watson 100%
Email me if you're still interested. You can make good money on the right purchase, and you ABSOLUTELY need someone that knows the lay of the land or has people that do.
How much is the rent in Syracuse? Thanks a lot for your review, very appreciated.
Rent is high. He must have been in an efficiency.
It depends on where you're living. Average rent is around 900 a month I believe for an apartment.
Great video of Syracuse I lived in the city all my life one pro you didn’t mention about Syracuse is the mall Destiny USA great mall to catch a movie at other than that great video.
Thanks so much! Yeah I'm sure there are a lot of things I probably missed haha.
To be real with you, most cities with high crime you can live in and not be bothered, as long as you mind your own business and you don't have any problems with anybody, You'll be good, but Philly, Chicago, New Orleans, Bronx I can't say the same for (LA just have to be careful what you wear)
Holy funny to find you on here I used to run the calios downtown
Yooo how you been?! Still bumping The Box? Lol.
Great.
Thanks!
What are the requirements to rent apartments in Syracuse? NYC requires good credit rating and 40x income so $3500 rental in NYC requires income of $140,000 yrly income, is Syracuse using the same 40x rule or do they use the standard 3x rule? What resources did tou use to find your $595/$615 monthly rental?
The only requirement for me was a deposit and first months rent. There were no credit checks. I believe there was some type of rule for my employment but it's definitely not too crazy. You just have to say what job you're going to do and how much you'll make in a year. It didn't matter as long as you could afford a month's rent. To get my apartment I just searched through apartments.com and found it.
Move where they have requirements .... if they don’t and they are lax about it then you don’t wanna rent there
@@kristynlangley9672 quite the opposite actually. I could never get in an apartment that wants to know my whole life story and credit check.
Why did you leave Syracuse ? and where did you move to ?
I left Cuse because I quit my job I had there for two years. And I just moved back home to Albany.
He is being nice about Syracuse but im just going to be honest about it. Syracuse was Good back in the 60s and 70s but once all the Department stores left downtown and moved out into the Malls, it was Over for Syracuse. Everything it had going for it left and because its in the middle of Nowhere there is nothing attractive about it. It never really was a Vibrant family place to begin with, the City planners never cared to make it a happening city they tried to host a jazz fest in the 90s and it started out good being 7 days long but like every thing they try to do, it desolved down to 2 days then they took it from downtown and moved it to the OCC campus then it moved from there to jamesville beach, now its back downtown the Carousel Mall was Great but again they changed it to destiny mall with hardly any stores in it ( all the really nice stores left )
Thanks for watching!
Not going back again.
Hey, I don't blame you haha.
There are no subways and the infrequent busses run on a schedule...you need a car.
I personally thought the bus schedules were pretty good. This is also coming from someone who didn't have a car more than half of the time I was there.
I always tell people, if there is one thing that Syracuse has, it's an amazing amount of great restaurants. A lot of them are hidden gems in outlying neighborhoods that you have to know where they are or you won't just come across them.
I drive 81 every day and it does look like shit, and the number of asshole drivers is ridiculous. The plan is to remove it entirely going through the city, route traffic going north around the city on 481 (which would also have to be completely overhauled to handle the extra traffic), and create a "community grid" starting just south of SU hill to just north of 690. They made it look like the public had a say in it, whether it was going to be replaced as it is or go the way of the grid, but everybody knows it was just lip service. That was a few years ago and nothing has gone forward with it. And when we get a lot of snow, the side streets, especially in some certain neighborhoods, they either don't bother plowing, or the locals just park wherever they want so plows can't get down the street to clear them. There is alternate side parking in effect, but it's largely ignored, and they don't tow cars in violation of it.
Syracuse prides itself on being "progressive", but it sure seems to not make much progress on anything meaningful. Seems like most changes are just vanity projects. It's the locals that are doing the most on their own without the local government's help.
I don't hate it here, and I have a ton of family and great friends, a good job, and plenty to do... but when I retire, I'm out of here.
Great video!
Totally agree! Thanks for watching! One of my favorite places in Syracuse is Modern Malt!
I hate the burgers at Ale n Angus. The beef isn’t my jam. Amazing Italian food in Syracuse & Onondaga county in general. Lacross is huge in most of NYS. Public transport is horrible, as there’s a lack of it, especially after pandemic, they cut routes & schedules. Getting a bus outside of Syracuse, such as a morning commute from even 1 mile out of city proper, is non existent. Crime: juvenile crime has skyrocketed! Fentanyl is gaining traction & weapons use is rising. Home owner’s & business owners are obligated to clear snow off their sidewalks, but they never do. And homelessness amongst youth & mentally challenged is rising, but majority of the straight panhandlers are not homeless. They’re just panhandlers, including the fake fiddlers. Plows & salt destroy the roads, but they do not plow side streets, & if school is canceled, they focus on University area, since that’s where all the hospitals & campus are. But the surface roads are physically not well maintained outside of the “Hill” area, of downtown, outlying “residential neighborhoods” are decently maintained, Sedgwick area, Eastwood area, roads are better than South or West sides of city
I’m from Newhaven Connecticut lived in the “hood” all my life. lots crime happen. Never had a serious problem personally. On top of that I stayed out of the streets. So crime unless it’s St. Louis,nyc,Chicago type of crime.
Well, yes but crime is still crime lol. The location of a shooting doesn't matter, it's still a shooting.
This was 10 months ago, but I have a question for you. Can you tell me where you can live in Syracuse that less violent or some of the outlying areas that are just as expensive this was a great video. Thank you.?
Hey! I would say check the areas around East Ave and check down the hill. That's where I lived. I haven't been in Syracuse for almost a couple years so it's for me to give you a good suggestion I'm sorry. I would just say avoid the Lower Northside and the Southside. I lived on the east side! And I hear west side is good too.
You want to stay out of the main sides of town. He was living "in the cut" so to say.
Tipp Hill and Eastwood have usually been considered two of the better neighborhoods within the city, though I've heard in my last visit there that Eastwood has had a few issues crop up. Far Westside is down the hill north of Tipp Hill, and isn't bad. He's right about the northside in general, but if you're close to or north of Court St, you'll be OK. Westside - you'd REALLY have to know the blocks: there's a reason why the area ranks among the poorest neighborhoods in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. Some streets/blocks are OK, and some ain't. Park Avenue is OK (east of S Geddes is better). I'd be very wary of Skunk City downhill from W. Onondaga, but uphill of W. Onondaga is going twds the Strathmore area, and that's decent. STAY THE F AWAY FROM DELAWARE AVE & THE W ONONDAGA/DELAWARE/S. GEDDES TRIANGLE AREA! It was baaaaad when I left the city in 2016 and it's still bad now.
Southside - part of me hates the rep it has in part because it is heavy in African-American residents. That said, you'd have to know someone locally who knows which blocks in particular are OK. Otherwise, you'd be better off looking in the Valley which is right south of southside (Seneca Turnpike).
@@cerwindhaynes1866 great summation.
@@DSGLABEL Thank you!!
Idk what kind of apartment deals you’re getting but 615 is incredibly cheap!
It was 223 East Ave look it up!
He was in the cut. There are a bunch of apartment complexes in that outer east side area. But the rents are rising rapidly.
@@jabsskywalker we were practically neighbors. I went to Nottingham.
Just lost my car. Believe or not, busses run on a schedule. No ,20;minuit interval and NO SIBWAY. so if you drive and can afford parking and gas...it's ok.
Yeah, the busses in Syracuse are really good. I didn't have a car there most of my time either.
The 5th pro about transport is not true, from what I've seen since I was born here at least. My sister went to college at Onondaga community college (OCC) and it was a 30 minute drive so she tried to take the Centro bus system at least 5 times and every time they took wrong turns and went past the bus stop by our house that it was supposed to stop at. Also the I 81 highway sucks in so many ways yet they still haven't taken it down. That's just what I've seen and experienced from the transport but it might be different for you.
Hmm interesting, I didn't notice a lot of issues with centro. Sorry she had that experience though!
@@jabsskywalker It's okay, I feel like I worded my comment weirdly, but my sister doesn't take the bus anymore, she also lives on campus now.
Syracuse rent is to dam high and it sucks
I'm sorry, but not true at all. Did you even watch the video? Syracuse has the cheapest rent I've ever seen. And again, the place I was staying in was in a good neighborhood and it was spacious.
@@jabsskywalker Rent is cheap cheap cheap
@@jabsskywalker Agreed. I live up the hill from the Valley towards the east, and I have a nice apartment for not much money. I leased a condo outside of Seattle a while ago and it was almost 5 times what I pay for this place.
In comparison to before 2019, when rent increases were nominal, then yeah I can see why you'd say that. But in comparison to many of the big cities, it's still pretty cheap.
Not sure why we shoud expect violence in a city.
Thanks for watching!
They have job home health care in Syracuse?
Do you mean, do they have home health care jobs in Syracuse?
how is the violence now
Not sure, I haven't lived there in a long time.
I was surprised to learn that the homelessness based on your statistics is not as bad where I live now. The pop of Syracuse is over 146,000 and with your numbers of 619 homeless people. Where I live, general pop is a little over 175,000 with a homeless pop of 3,000. Syracuse doesn't look so bad, although I'm sure crime is something to consider.
Yeah this video is pretty dated so a lot could've changed since then. I know one thing that definitely didn't change is the crime though.
If I could, I would definitely move back to Syracuse!!! Ask the Armenian Church people!!! ;) As for its cons, no surprise. Same with the pros!!!
Thanks for giving the video a watch when you did! Hope you're well!
Street sign beggars aren’t always homeless.
Yeah for sure.
How about the strip clubs?
Don’t do it, I hate it here so much 🤣😭
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WOOOOOOW! I live in NYC & I was SHOCKED when someone informed me how 'reasonable' the houses are to buy. Was thinking of buying a house there. Now I am not too certain based on your comment. Maybe I should visit first.
@@tarawalton6778 As for real estate, the housing prices are almost the lowest as compared to the other Counties in NY State. Incidentally, this is Onondaga County. I live in Liverpool NY - roughly a 15 minute ride to downtown Syracuse - Other areas in the county that I recommend are Fayetteville, North Syracuse, Manlius, (oh yeah, great theater and other big concerts that come through here)
Eh, I grew up there but moved to a worse place as it turned out. I actually love CNY as a whole, get a place outside the city, Baldwinville, Onandaga, etc. America is effed at this point but I'd still rather be around Syracuse than a lot of other places.
Population of crime they say it 6 .
Thanks for watching!
I was born here an I hate it here
It's a dirty little city
Oof idk if I'd go that far haha.
192" of snow? GTFOH.
That was the winter of '92-'93 and most of it was only because of a Blizzard... but yes, we average 120" a whole season.. lately the snow hasn't been that bad and at times, it comes and goes, doesn't mean we have 192" on the ground all at once... that's over a whole winter season.. Hell of a lot better then loosing your house/home to a hurricane, tornado or earthquake..
YUP lol
It’s so sad that all those people turned woke and went crazy
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House prices are CHEAP!!!
How could you be homeless here?
Homelessness exists everywhere unfortunately.
House prices are relatively cheap. Property taxes, however, are not cheap. Being in NY expect to pay high taxes.
How did you feel demographic wise? Did you feel an air of bigotry? Racism? Especially outside of downtown.
I honestly didn't venture outside the city too much but I would say Central New York is notorious for that stuff just outside of cities. Personally, I didn't really experience that too much. In some cases even in downtown Syracuse, there were bars that had "dress codes" and I'm like I know what you're trying to say.