Thank you dnvr for continuing to talk about the nuggets almost every day. I remember the old days waiting for 104.3 the Fan to talk about the nuggets for maybe 5 minutes a day max, even during the depths of the broncos offseason, and I never want to go back to that!
AG looked GREAT off the bench. He can create his own shot better than MPJ which really helps in non-Jokic minutes. Hope the Nuggets continue that since this lineup works. The part that concerns me is that it took forever for Jokic to get a shot in the second half. When another team goes on a 10+ point run, the Nugget HAVE to get the ball to Jokic. Having Jamal isos or CB/Strawther/MPJ jack up a quick shot with no pass should never happen. Jokic is a guaranteed gapstop. Why the Nuggets refuse to use it is beyond me.
The hard part in this game is the mavs force the Nuggets to try and win by anyone not named jokic. They double jokic every single time he gets the ball because they don’t want him to get going. That’s why he only had 19 points. They also had lively and afford playing at the same time they were copying Minnesota’s strategy
@ Yes, Dallas made a conscious effort to get the ball out of Jokic's hand. I'm not saying this should have been a 35+ point night for Jokic but 13 shot attempts was not all Dallas. There were plenty of possessions during the Mavs' run where Murray and others immediately took a shot without passing. When the other team is on a run, you HAVE to make an effort to get the ball to Jokic and the Nuggets didn't do that.
@ Jokic didn't score much in the 4th either, but he at least got the ball. Jokic isn't going to force bad shots which is why the Nuggets have to get it to him. Russ and others were cutting, and Jokic got a bunch of assists in the 4th. In the 3rd quarter when the Mavs made the run, Jamal and others didn't even try to get Jokic the ball. They immediately took a shot once they crossed half court. When the opponent makes a run, you HAVE to get Jokic the ball.
That's a pretty big win tonight. Guys came out real flat and I thought they were gonna throw another one away. They definitely flipped the switch tonight in the 4th. Dallas is always tough and these games against them are as meaningful to the standings as it gets this time of year. So really glad to see the guys pull this one out.
Yes, Westbrook is the Nuggets second best player. Murray is, at best, is their fourth best player. I'd take Jokic, Westbrook and Gordon before him, and maybe, maybe Porter.
@@RandomTeaPot-s3fhe doesn’t get paid for 2 months a year,he gets paid for the whole year.Youd be ok with joker playing like shit in the regular season?
It feels like most of the time murray wants to prove he is as good as jokic and he can create his own shots and doesn't need jokic Wth is this mentality
With an 8-player rotation, each player can theoretically get 30 minutes of game time. It doesn’t really matter who starts, as long as you sub one player every 6 minutes.
Jamal Murray seems to be like that stereotypical single mother on facebook who says something narcissistic like "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best"
Aaron Gordon is that missing factor when they are doubling Jokic him and Aaron have this telepathy to know when Aaron is running to that dunker spot thats whats been missing
Wind is dead wrong...they're not a mediocre team without Murray....they're a mediocre team when he's out there shitting the bed like he was for 85% of the game. Same team beat OKC at full strength without him and Gordon. The issue is when he's bad he's awful on both defense and on offense...where he turns the offense into a damn slog with his over-dribbling and nonsense.
I want lavine in this team and inam ready to make mpj the scapegoat bcz murray can never be traded bcz of his contract. Lavine is defended like a 1st option and is double teamed so it will give jokic opportunities unlike where je was triple teamed
The Denver second unit is still bad but there's been growth with this group and they are responding well to the challenge which is great and Malone has acquired some flexibility mixing up the combinations on the floor. The glaring problems this team had a couple weeks back are slowly getting covered through adapting and confidence building and that's the beauty of this team, that they are learning and developing with every game.
murray has now become the equivalent of westbrook on the lakers where he just struggles ... that being said maybe murray just don't fit with the offensive scheme anymore and he needs to just like russ find a team and a system that works better for him.. it also seems like murray is a bit uninspired to play because russ is getting all his shine ..
Yall always taking things to the extreme clearly Murray isn’t healthy and you can tell. The nuggets need to get a comfortable lead at the 2-3 seed and then let Murray take some time off so he can be 100% for the playoffs
Horrible coaching game. If Malone starts Jokic/MPJ/Watson/CB/RUSS, this game would not be this close. The Mavs has no great playmaker or scorer on their team, all we need are solid perimeter defenders to stop them from sharing the ball. Make the Mavs play iso, and we have length against them. 1st quarter the Mavs kept playing the bully ball on Murray really hurt my eyes. Can we play some high IQ chess game instead of just putting the 208M cash bag on the court to see if it works or not every night?
Issue is they can't put Jamal on the bench. He's making the max while Russ is making the minimum. Management will let Jamal start until he proves his worth or until they can find a trade
Doubtful the front office wants to trade Murray. Russ is playing at an all-star level but is aging and the front office probably values 6+ more years of mediocre Murray playing hero-ball than 2-3 years of Russ and Jokic potentially being the greatest duo in the history of the NBA. Given that they're likely more than happy to sit on Murray's salary just to keep him locked in for the long term, I don't see a reason they shouldn't feel empowered to bring him off the bench. He's been so bad for so long in 1st quarters, for real, Murray should welcome it at this point. Maybe he can reinvent himself quickly in a sort of Manu Ginobili kind of role, where can can often be the team's best player in the 2nd half of games, but just isn't a starter. It works because the game's slowed down a bit and offenses are a little tired and Murray's inability to play defense isn't such a huge liability like it is in the first quarter when teams are running set plays and picking the guy they want to abuse each time down.
We need to stop seeing MPJ as more handsome than he is. against Dallas he was THE problem because he sucks in defense. Dallas in the first 6 minutes of the 3Q took 90% of their shots playing on the crap that is MPJ on defense.
I want lavine in this team and inam ready to make mpj the scapegoat bcz murray can never be traded bcz of his contract. Lavine is defended like a 1st option and is double teamed so it will give jokic opportunities unlike where je was triple teamed
@@dreamoffrog6014 Be careful not to blame MPJ for what's actually a Murray problem. Most of the time MPJ is looking "bad" on defense, it's because he's busy doing a complex defensive rotation scheme that's been designed in specifically to address the fact that Murray can't fight through, over, under, or around any screen by any other NBA player. This makes the ENTIRE Nuggets unit look bad on defense, because they're all spinning and rotating and recovering and desperately trying to close out, while Murray just stands at the elbow saving energy for Denver to get the ball back.
50:50 why shouldnt we rest Murray? He needs to heal, Westbrook-jokic game is going off, Gordon is back, and Murray can be nore fresh for the playoffs. Its a win win!
You can't sacrifice CB"s development for Westbrook to start. That would be huge mistake. Russ will get his minutes anyway but CB must grow with Jokic and starting group.
C. Braun is a better decision maker and more even keeled than Russ. Russ's energy of the bench is valuable, even better than Bruce Brown. Russ has earned more minutes, NOT a starting role. We need to continue to invest in CB and build his confidence up.
@@bpaperu You can go to statmuse and see Russell Westbrook production off the bench. Then Denver win rate since Russell Westbrook became a starter. you'll quickly change your mind my frend 😂
This team is a disaster entirely because of the coach, who can’t fix Jamal. You have the best low post player in the world - why did he get less shots than Jamal or Russ? Do any of these podcasters call him out??
Christian Braun always "looks like" a 3D. Last season he was struggling too but his 3% still look fine. That's stats-padding because of his fear to shoot.
Horrible coaching game. If Malone starts Jokic/MPJ/Watson/CB/RUSS, this game would not be this close. The Mavs has no great playmaker or scorer on their team, all we need are solid perimeter defenders to stop them from sharing the ball. Make the Mavs play iso, and we have length against them. 1st quarter the Mavs kept playing the bully ball on Murray really hurt my eyes. Can we play some high IQ chess game instead of just putting the 208M cash bag on the court to see if it works or not every night?
You’re dead right. They should’ve been looking to move him or cut him right after the Wolves series last year. Throwing the heat pad on the court, he was actually doing the team a huge favor: “Look at me, I’m an immature jerk, you don’t want me.” But they failed to act
I want lavine in this team and inam ready to make mpj the scapegoat bcz murray can never be traded bcz of his contract. Lavine is defended like a 1st option and is double teamed so it will give jokic opportunities unlike where je was triple teamed
I told my buddy that as long as the nuggets were within 12 pts entering the 4th they'd find a way. They certainly made me look smart
Haha, you can count on us to play like poppoo water and then remember how to play all of a sudden
😂so nerve racking though! I cannot trust another team pulling that much scoring in last 3 mins!
When they went down 12 in the 3rd with about 6 minutes left I saw they were +310 on draft kings. Took that right away.
@@GTNover oh shoot really?! Man I’ll be on the lookout cuz Nuggets do this and only fans can see it coming! lol
Yeah against a team with Spencer D. as their 1st option, it was a safe bet
Thank you dnvr for continuing to talk about the nuggets almost every day. I remember the old days waiting for 104.3 the Fan to talk about the nuggets for maybe 5 minutes a day max, even during the depths of the broncos offseason, and I never want to go back to that!
God, back when it felt like we were the oddballs in our own state for liking the Nuggets too lol
The reason the bench did so well, is that the Mavericks had half of their normal bench in the starting line up.
AG looked GREAT off the bench. He can create his own shot better than MPJ which really helps in non-Jokic minutes. Hope the Nuggets continue that since this lineup works.
The part that concerns me is that it took forever for Jokic to get a shot in the second half. When another team goes on a 10+ point run, the Nugget HAVE to get the ball to Jokic. Having Jamal isos or CB/Strawther/MPJ jack up a quick shot with no pass should never happen. Jokic is a guaranteed gapstop. Why the Nuggets refuse to use it is beyond me.
There’s isn’t a prayer in hell AG stays on the bench once off his minutes restriction
As Vogt said on the pod, Dallas insisted that Jokic play that way because of their gameplan
The hard part in this game is the mavs force the Nuggets to try and win by anyone not named jokic. They double jokic every single time he gets the ball because they don’t want him to get going. That’s why he only had 19 points. They also had lively and afford playing at the same time they were copying Minnesota’s strategy
@ Yes, Dallas made a conscious effort to get the ball out of Jokic's hand. I'm not saying this should have been a 35+ point night for Jokic but 13 shot attempts was not all Dallas. There were plenty of possessions during the Mavs' run where Murray and others immediately took a shot without passing. When the other team is on a run, you HAVE to make an effort to get the ball to Jokic and the Nuggets didn't do that.
@ Jokic didn't score much in the 4th either, but he at least got the ball. Jokic isn't going to force bad shots which is why the Nuggets have to get it to him.
Russ and others were cutting, and Jokic got a bunch of assists in the 4th. In the 3rd quarter when the Mavs made the run, Jamal and others didn't even try to get Jokic the ball. They immediately took a shot once they crossed half court. When the opponent makes a run, you HAVE to get Jokic the ball.
That's a pretty big win tonight. Guys came out real flat and I thought they were gonna throw another one away. They definitely flipped the switch tonight in the 4th. Dallas is always tough and these games against them are as meaningful to the standings as it gets this time of year. So really glad to see the guys pull this one out.
This wasn't DAL, they has Spencer D. as their first option, but I agree very important W for the standings
Welcome back AG we missed you my guy that lob to DJ was 🔥
the bench carried the starters to a win. that wasn't on my bingo card
Yeah, this is oddly healthy in a really weird and unplanned way
@@BenGreen1980 🤣 that was wild for sure
Yes, Westbrook is the Nuggets second best player. Murray is, at best, is their fourth best player. I'd take Jokic, Westbrook and Gordon before him, and maybe, maybe Porter.
Come playoffs he’s easily 2 or 1 at rare occasions
@@RandomTeaPot-s3fhe doesn’t get paid for 2 months a year,he gets paid for the whole year.Youd be ok with joker playing like shit in the regular season?
@@RandomTeaPot-s3f Please, he has never been or ever will be close to as good as Jokic. Half of his problem is he thinks he is as good as the Joker.
@@406dn7bingo.couldn’t have said it better
It feels like most of the time murray wants to prove he is as good as jokic and he can create his own shots and doesn't need jokic
Wth is this mentality
With an 8-player rotation, each player can theoretically get 30 minutes of game time. It doesn’t really matter who starts, as long as you sub one player every 6 minutes.
Once PWat figures out balance and how to stay on his feet, he will be a play off contributor.
His offense has potential to become impactful even though he maybe not make threes.
**and how to score on fast breaks
When he somehow cracks the starting lineup (not sure when or where), the Nuggets will be on their way to their second championship
Jamal Murray seems to be like that stereotypical single mother on facebook who says something narcissistic like "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best"
😂
@@-ac-8296 I just can’t with these comment ! 😆
😂😂😂
You're a poet
Masterful
come from behind win is wild
Murray stinking in the first half and turning it on in the 2nd half the story of his career. Consummate 6th man kind of energy.
Aaron Gordon came off that bench in the 4th on 🔥 he got everybody involved after he hit that 3 in the corner it was on after that
15:00 such a good point Dev. Prime example is the Bones Hyland situation
Aaron Gordon is that missing factor when they are doubling Jokic him and Aaron have this telepathy to know when Aaron is running to that dunker spot thats whats been missing
Wind is dead wrong...they're not a mediocre team without Murray....they're a mediocre team when he's out there shitting the bed like he was for 85% of the game. Same team beat OKC at full strength without him and Gordon. The issue is when he's bad he's awful on both defense and on offense...where he turns the offense into a damn slog with his over-dribbling and nonsense.
Harrison Wind is so unqualified for his job it’s scary. He took Adam’s job!
@@RkwadTheHustla-oq4ro and his voice is so monotone and "I can't even" as well
I want lavine in this team and inam ready to make mpj the scapegoat bcz murray can never be traded bcz of his contract. Lavine is defended like a 1st option and is double teamed so it will give jokic opportunities unlike where je was triple teamed
@@arnavanand9257 I'd ride out this year and deal Murray in the summer
@@RkwadTheHustla-oq4ro Ummm Wind is amazing at his job. Also this is a podcast, what qualifications 😂
The Denver second unit is still bad but there's been growth with this group and they are responding well to the challenge which is great and Malone has acquired some flexibility mixing up the combinations on the floor. The glaring problems this team had a couple weeks back are slowly getting covered through adapting and confidence building and that's the beauty of this team, that they are learning and developing with every game.
murray has now become the equivalent of westbrook on the lakers where he just struggles ... that being said maybe murray just don't fit with the offensive scheme anymore and he needs to just like russ find a team and a system that works better for him.. it also seems like murray is a bit uninspired to play because russ is getting all his shine ..
You know that guy wouldn't even start on most teams. Jokic made him look good
Yall always taking things to the extreme clearly Murray isn’t healthy and you can tell. The nuggets need to get a comfortable lead at the 2-3 seed and then let Murray take some time off so he can be 100% for the playoffs
How can someone enter the match so softly, and then talk about mma as a sport he likes and would do 🤔, dont understand.
Injury, have you ever had one?
@@enoFTTVmaybe he could’ve worked out in the off-season,look at russ who is 10 years older than him but looks like 25
I mean, MMA players would not be out of shape like him every year.
@heNh-ml7gr you ever seen paddy pimblet not in a fight camp?? 🤣
Horrible coaching game. If Malone starts Jokic/MPJ/Watson/CB/RUSS, this game would not be this close. The Mavs has no great playmaker or scorer on their team, all we need are solid perimeter defenders to stop them from sharing the ball. Make the Mavs play iso, and we have length against them. 1st quarter the Mavs kept playing the bully ball on Murray really hurt my eyes. Can we play some high IQ chess game instead of just putting the 208M cash bag on the court to see if it works or not every night?
Issue is they can't put Jamal on the bench. He's making the max while Russ is making the minimum. Management will let Jamal start until he proves his worth or until they can find a trade
Doubtful the front office wants to trade Murray. Russ is playing at an all-star level but is aging and the front office probably values 6+ more years of mediocre Murray playing hero-ball than 2-3 years of Russ and Jokic potentially being the greatest duo in the history of the NBA. Given that they're likely more than happy to sit on Murray's salary just to keep him locked in for the long term, I don't see a reason they shouldn't feel empowered to bring him off the bench. He's been so bad for so long in 1st quarters, for real, Murray should welcome it at this point. Maybe he can reinvent himself quickly in a sort of Manu Ginobili kind of role, where can can often be the team's best player in the 2nd half of games, but just isn't a starter. It works because the game's slowed down a bit and offenses are a little tired and Murray's inability to play defense isn't such a huge liability like it is in the first quarter when teams are running set plays and picking the guy they want to abuse each time down.
We need to stop seeing MPJ as more handsome than he is. against Dallas he was THE problem because he sucks in defense. Dallas in the first 6 minutes of the 3Q took 90% of their shots playing on the crap that is MPJ on defense.
I want lavine in this team and inam ready to make mpj the scapegoat bcz murray can never be traded bcz of his contract. Lavine is defended like a 1st option and is double teamed so it will give jokic opportunities unlike where je was triple teamed
@@dreamoffrog6014 Be careful not to blame MPJ for what's actually a Murray problem. Most of the time MPJ is looking "bad" on defense, it's because he's busy doing a complex defensive rotation scheme that's been designed in specifically to address the fact that Murray can't fight through, over, under, or around any screen by any other NBA player. This makes the ENTIRE Nuggets unit look bad on defense, because they're all spinning and rotating and recovering and desperately trying to close out, while Murray just stands at the elbow saving energy for Denver to get the ball back.
denver nuggets sleepwalking the first half to locking in during the 4th quarter, classic.
50:50 why shouldnt we rest Murray? He needs to heal, Westbrook-jokic game is going off, Gordon is back, and Murray can be nore fresh for the playoffs. Its a win win!
You can't sacrifice CB"s development for Westbrook to start. That would be huge mistake. Russ will get his minutes anyway but CB must grow with Jokic and starting group.
Bench Murray.
CB is still gonna play a ton of minutes even if Westbrook starts. CB also doesn’t care as long they are winning!
By listening to how other teammates of russ praise him. I’m sure russ will make sure cb starts.
I went to sleep after 1/4 and Broncos...damn
C. Braun is a better decision maker and more even keeled than Russ. Russ's energy of the bench is valuable, even better than Bruce Brown. Russ has earned more minutes, NOT a starting role. We need to continue to invest in CB and build his confidence up.
@@bpaperu You can go to statmuse and see Russell Westbrook production off the bench. Then Denver win rate since Russell Westbrook became a starter. you'll quickly change your mind my frend 😂
Jamal truther right here. Nuggets will go nowhere if he doesn’t get it going. Everyone should be rooting for him.
This team is a disaster entirely because of the coach, who can’t fix Jamal. You have the best low post player in the world - why did he get less shots than Jamal or Russ? Do any of these podcasters call him out??
Christian Braun always "looks like" a 3D. Last season he was struggling too but his 3% still look fine. That's stats-padding because of his fear to shoot.
You guys keep looking to the side, it's a little distracting
Dev seems to be going on too many tangents lately even more than usual.
Horrible coaching game. If Malone starts Jokic/MPJ/Watson/CB/RUSS, this game would not be this close. The Mavs has no great playmaker or scorer on their team, all we need are solid perimeter defenders to stop them from sharing the ball. Make the Mavs play iso, and we have length against them. 1st quarter the Mavs kept playing the bully ball on Murray really hurt my eyes. Can we play some high IQ chess game instead of just putting the 208M cash bag on the court to see if it works or not every night?
You’re dead right. They should’ve been looking to move him or cut him right after the Wolves series last year. Throwing the heat pad on the court, he was actually doing the team a huge favor: “Look at me, I’m an immature jerk, you don’t want me.” But they failed to act
I want lavine in this team and inam ready to make mpj the scapegoat bcz murray can never be traded bcz of his contract. Lavine is defended like a 1st option and is double teamed so it will give jokic opportunities unlike where je was triple teamed