Why terrifying turbulence left 1 dead & 30 injured on Singapore plane which plunged 7000ft - expert

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  • A Brit granddad died after severe turbulence battered a flight from London as passengers were tucking into breakfast.
    Geoff Kitchen, 73, died of a heart attack after the Singapore Airlines Boeing flight plunged 7,000ft in just six minutes sparking mid-air panic.
    Flight SQ321 took off from London Heathrow shortly after 10pm on Monday with 211 passengers and 18 crew on board - including 47 Brits.
    Nearly 11 hours into the 13-hour journey to Singapore, the packed jet was smashed by sudden "severe turbulence" while passengers were eating breakfast, officials said.
    Geoff, from Thornbury, Gloucestershire, had just begun a six week trip to Singapore, Indonesia, Japan and Australia, with wife Linda when tragedy struck.
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  • @Oceaneyes-eh6vs
    @Oceaneyes-eh6vs 22 дні тому +20

    My son lives in Thailand and he told me that hospitals there are very well organized and professional. That's seen here with their medical staff.

  • @user-cy4mb7ge2q
    @user-cy4mb7ge2q 24 дні тому +71

    Looks like the medical team in Thailand is very professional.

  • @franscrouse1637
    @franscrouse1637 24 дні тому +212

    I think how well the Thai Authorities handled this Emergency once that plane has landed is commendable.

    • @FRLNCR
      @FRLNCR 24 дні тому +17

      Yes, looked like they were right on top of it. Kudos to their responders. Condolences to the family of the deceased.

    • @Drobalar-Drsebi
      @Drobalar-Drsebi 24 дні тому +1

      *MR OBALAR* ON UA-cam CURED ME TOTALLY…………..

    • @selvi7106
      @selvi7106 24 дні тому +2

      True.

    • @ruangreddick7250
      @ruangreddick7250 24 дні тому +1

      experience from sunami 2004 ❤

    • @user-bf8tv8xv4w
      @user-bf8tv8xv4w 24 дні тому +1

      Maybe, but it would be worthy of criticism if a major city didn't have appropriate emergency services at the ready if a plane with injured passengers was due to land. They're doing a job that they're paid for, and they aren't running into a burning plane rescuing people. It would certainly be commendable if they were paid as firemen to do something like that.

  • @Eric-jo8uh
    @Eric-jo8uh 24 дні тому +100

    Moral of the story, ALWAYS keep your belt fastened when seated…like travelling in a car.

    • @monkeybaath2325
      @monkeybaath2325 22 дні тому +3

      True. Except when using the toilet (and waiting in queue). Cabin crew are almost always are at risk, since they have so many tasks to perform.

    • @weekdaycycling
      @weekdaycycling 22 дні тому

      @@monkeybaath2325I thought it should be the pilot's responsibility to warn passengers about the possibility of turbulence, as they can see the weather on the radar.

    • @naniwijayanasution1752
      @naniwijayanasution1752 21 день тому

      ​@@weekdaycycling Clear Air Turbulence is unseen, undetected by the radar, and unpredictable. The plane might have gotten into an area of that kind of turbulence, which is common above the Indian Ocean, normally during the summer.

  • @kiki_sg
    @kiki_sg 24 дні тому +20

    Thank you to the pilot who managed for the safety emergency landing.he saves lives of 200+ people.🙏

  • @Tigerbi
    @Tigerbi 24 дні тому +52

    Thank you Thailand.

  • @thurston905
    @thurston905 24 дні тому +37

    I remember on one flight i had to warn a mum about turbulence for allowing her toddler to wander along the aisle. Some ppl think that seat belt is a nuisance

    • @07Flash11MRC
      @07Flash11MRC 24 дні тому +6

      Those people also don't seem to understand the danger of sudden decompression.

    • @duartesimoes508
      @duartesimoes508 23 дні тому +4

      Some months ago I saw a young mum riding an electric scooter with her very young son attached to her chest. No helmet, nothing. The little baby was maybe less than one year old. Had she fell, she would have smashed her own son under her weight. People are _that_ stupid.

    • @duartesimoes508
      @duartesimoes508 21 день тому

      Or maybe they think toddlers are flies...

  • @CrossbredmiMiyang
    @CrossbredmiMiyang 24 дні тому +140

    I was supposed to be onboard on this flight SQ321 back to Singapore but rescheduled to 22nd (same flight SQ321 ) instead because I’ve met an old friend and decided to extend for another day so that we could meet up for dinner, otherwise I could be one of the injured person. My condolences to the family of the deceased and at this difficult moment my thoughts are with them wholeheartedly & wishes those onboard who are injured a speedy recovery.

    • @mtan6364
      @mtan6364 24 дні тому +15

      You must thank your lucky stars that you narrowly escaped a very unpleasant experience! My heart also goes out to the family of the deceased as well as the pilots - they will be undergoing an extensive investigation with lots of public scrutiny

    • @user-tx4is7ji4r
      @user-tx4is7ji4r 24 дні тому +3

      You should feel fortunate to skip the terrifying moments that passengers experienced on that flight ,
      Injuries might be healed overtime , but the trauma of a severe turbulent flight might last forever .

    • @akhadmea.2937
      @akhadmea.2937 24 дні тому +5

      God is with you ❤

    • @carine4318
      @carine4318 24 дні тому +7

      Keep that seat belt on at all times . I’m ex air crew even pilots can’t prevent this as the instruments in flight deck can’t keep up

    • @Pocketsunoo
      @Pocketsunoo 24 дні тому +5

      maybe that old friend is a guardian angel

  • @bamb1006
    @bamb1006 24 дні тому +36

    Thank God the pilots manage to control the boeing and save hundreds of lives. Sad for the elderly that passed may he rest in peace

    • @mecx7322
      @mecx7322 23 дні тому +3

      SA pilots are very professional and know how to handle such situations.

    • @ciaranmurphy6618
      @ciaranmurphy6618 23 дні тому +2

      ​​@@mecx7322
      Yes, like British Airways pilots they're good because they're mostly ex-military, so they're trained for harsh environments.

  • @sameerazenib9678
    @sameerazenib9678 24 дні тому +56

    Been in turbulence many times. And once or twice in some very turbulent one where the plane suddenly dipped. It is scary stuff but you do as the signs and beeps say and fasten your seat belt. You ride it through because you have full faith in the pilots that are flying the aircraft to see it through. Its just unfortunate that a senior citizen died due to whatever reasons caused his passing during that moment....
    May he rest in Peace

  • @28ebdh3udnav
    @28ebdh3udnav 24 дні тому +42

    Dont blame the airline or the manufacturer. There's thousands of documented instances where turbulence occurs in the middle of nowhere, over clear skies. The pilots couldn't have prevented this

    • @PokeRetroFan
      @PokeRetroFan 24 дні тому +2

      Yeah I was on a flight not too long ago and we experienced turbulence during clear skies

    • @duartesimoes508
      @duartesimoes508 24 дні тому +3

      Clear Air Turbulence does not show on the aircraft Weather Radar. It has no moisture, hence creates no return. It's fully invisible, just like wind.
      Sometimes your cockpit crew can be warned by the aircraft flying ahead of yours 😱🤬🤬 and If possible they will ask the control to change Flight Level as long as it's worth doing it and the requested Level is available. If there is already an aircraft there she won't change Level with yours. Sorry.💪
      Months ago my Stepdaughter suffered moderate to severe turbulence on departure from Paris to Lisbon. And she works in an Airline Flight Operations and knows the difference. I was following her flight on Flightradar watching the altitude going up and down like a slot machine and become very worried. Later, the Captain came on the public address to apologise and state that he had already changed level three times without improvement. They were forced to stop climbing, deviate further West and reduce airspeed for twenty minutes, and there was a good deal of panic on board. And it didn't even make the News...

  • @kevinf-b5065
    @kevinf-b5065 24 дні тому +192

    The elderly Englishman allegedly died from a heart attack, not injuries sustained from the turbulence

    • @fitness_with_duane
      @fitness_with_duane 24 дні тому +2

      Kevinf-b5065 Whats the Source of this?

    • @user-nt1sz5jc6k
      @user-nt1sz5jc6k 24 дні тому +36

      Its thesame turbulance caused the heart attact

    • @mamamememoo
      @mamamememoo 24 дні тому +11

      @@fitness_with_duanethe press conference which was shown in the video- did u watch it?

    • @Infarlock
      @Infarlock 24 дні тому +19

      The heart attack was caused from the turbulence, not the other way around
      Huge lawsuit coming regardless

    • @nadger1337
      @nadger1337 24 дні тому +10

      Im in my early 40s but i think id probably have a heart attack too.

  • @user-sh3tv6fm2z
    @user-sh3tv6fm2z 24 дні тому +15

    Salute to the pilots, they still managed to control the plane and landed it safely, if not you could not have imagined what will happened! God bless us all

  • @theresahertwig5307
    @theresahertwig5307 24 дні тому +35

    ALWAYS KEEP YOUR BELT ON WHEN SEATED!!!!

  • @mercurial5810
    @mercurial5810 24 дні тому +28

    This man is very intelligent

  • @janpetersen7440
    @janpetersen7440 24 дні тому +75

    Hopefully it can teach airline passengers to keep their seatbelts on throughout the trip. An air hole can appear very suddenly. Have experienced it myself, very unpleasant.

    • @matmul4850
      @matmul4850 24 дні тому +5

      No such thing as "air holes". I just learned that by watching this video through.

    • @janpetersen7440
      @janpetersen7440 24 дні тому +3

      @@matmul4850 'Air holes' occur between warm and cold air - typically in thunderstorms. But the professionals call it turbulence.

    • @flodareltih6775
      @flodareltih6775 24 дні тому +2

      👂🏼 holes

    • @aktchungrabanio6467
      @aktchungrabanio6467 24 дні тому +1

      THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AIRHOLES. STOP SPREADING LIES KIDDO.

    • @whahappened8398
      @whahappened8398 24 дні тому

      @@matmul4850 Oh I've known a few " air holes" in my day... we all have

  • @ciarankelly4338
    @ciarankelly4338 24 дні тому +7

    I think we should wait to hear from pilots! SIA are a great airline and condolences to family of man who died . Also our thoughts for the cabin crew and appreciation to pilots who were most professional and made immediate landing. Thank you to Thailand aswell and their emergency response teams!

  • @steveforster3420
    @steveforster3420 24 дні тому +29

    They also say keep belts on even when cruising due to this stuff..just do as told

    • @Paws4Thought669
      @Paws4Thought669 24 дні тому +1

      The sheep have to sheep though ;)

    • @steveforster3420
      @steveforster3420 24 дні тому +3

      @@Paws4Thought669 touché

    • @Plevins
      @Plevins 24 дні тому +2

      how to go toilet with belt on

    • @steveforster3420
      @steveforster3420 24 дні тому +4

      @@Plevins unbelt,walk to toilet,then sit down belt back on.simple,unless you want to go toilet in rough turbulence.

    • @michaellowe5980
      @michaellowe5980 23 дні тому

      ​@@Plevinsyep congratulations, you tried to be funny but made yourself sound completely dumb.

  • @RandomVideosFirst
    @RandomVideosFirst 24 дні тому +37

    Could you imagine if it happened in the toilet while taking a number two or in meal service ...

  • @raspberrypiploy771
    @raspberrypiploy771 24 дні тому +12

    As ex crew of 22 years Long Haul the hardest part of the Job was getting people to comply with instructions, seatbelts being the hardest. Certain nationalities hated any sort of authority. Once the seat belt signs were illuminated many would then need the toilets. Likewise as soon as the aircraft started taxiing to the gate many would stand up and start unloading hand luggage. Having experienced clear air turbulence and hitting the ceiling in the galley on a 747 my only regret was not having photos of the damage caused to the ceiling and to my head to show passengers why we insist on seatbelts. I was off work for 5 months and had 32 stitches. Well done as well to the crew and all the ground crews in Bangkok, such a good example on how things should be handled. Also the commentator David Lamont tells us nothing apart from the obvious just listen to him, it really is a case of 'no sh** Sherlock'

    • @michaellowe5980
      @michaellowe5980 23 дні тому +3

      Yeah, totally agree with you.
      Recently flew with a Chinese airline internationally, the actual airline was great but the Chinese passengers were disgusting and rude. They don't listen to or take notice of any airline staff, they're walking around while seat belt sign on and all standing up pushing forward while aircraft still making its way to the gate.
      I'd use Chinese airlines again ( modern fleets, great service and price ) but I couldn't stand watching the arrogance and stupidity from the majority of the passengers ☹️

    • @raspberrypiploy771
      @raspberrypiploy771 23 дні тому +1

      @@michaellowe5980 Japanese by far the best passengers followed by Aussies, Singaporean, Thai and South African. British were quite good but the business class British passengers could be and often were nasty, rude, and very arrogant. Worst for non compliance were Americans extremely rude and loud and often intimidating

    • @michaellowe5980
      @michaellowe5980 23 дні тому

      @@raspberrypiploy771 yeah I can understand you rating Japanese passengers highly 👍
      I live in Japan and the Japanese are like that everywhere. They respect each other, wait in lines politely and don't cause each other grief.
      I'm laughing at your American comment as they're definitely the rudest , loudest and worst tourists here!!

    • @anrashid47
      @anrashid47 23 дні тому +1

      Agreed !! Me ex-crew too !! SQ aaah ?? Driver B747-400

    • @duartesimoes508
      @duartesimoes508 23 дні тому +1

      ​@raspberrypiploy771 the Japanese are an outstanding people. They are indeed many notches above all others.

  • @janeingram7331
    @janeingram7331 24 дні тому +3

    I was on a flight with similar circumstances. On a 747 flying from Milan to PHL, our plane nose dived causing all the items in the overhead storage come falling out, the life raft fell out of the ceiling. After the pilot straightened the plane he came on the intercom and said it was not noted on the navigation system. Just then the plan did another nose. No one was injured but I did break my eyeglass that were hanging over the pocket and my foot must have hit it. The plane was a mess, but we continued across the ocean. A second flight was during a tornado in Pittsburgh. When we took off from PHL within 10 minutes the pilot announced to the crew to prepare for landing. That plane did maneuvers you would not believe an aircraft can do. The wings flapped like a bird. The tornado actually demolished a city near Pittsburgh.

  • @riddim.
    @riddim. 24 дні тому +5

    I send my deepest condolences to the family.

  • @EGO0808
    @EGO0808 23 дні тому +2

    Those shouting to always have your seatbelt on, be aware that on a 13 hours flight, one needs to go to the restroom, stretch the legs or simply move out of the seat at some time. And as stated in this event, it occurred right after lunch was being served, meaning lots of people in the alley to the restrooms. And it came out of the blue, the fasten seatbelt sign was only switched on a few seconds before it ccourred. I am a very frequent flyer and I can state I have never ever been seated for the whole long stretch from Europe to Asia. One needs to get up at times. WHEN seated, yes, it’s best to loosely fasten your seatbelt.

  • @unvaccinatedAndPureBlood
    @unvaccinatedAndPureBlood 24 дні тому +52

    When they say keep your seatbelt on they mean it.😢

    • @hiddenusers
      @hiddenusers 24 дні тому +9

      @@moonbalancedd It is recommended to wear seats belts all the time throughout your flight .

    • @ku-1500
      @ku-1500 24 дні тому +3

      @@moonbalancedd it's not mandatory, but if you listen to the safety announcements closely you can hear them "recommending" you to keep your seat belts on whenever you are seated.

    • @moonbalancedd
      @moonbalancedd 24 дні тому +4

      @hiddenusers it's during meal service, people are eating with their trays open, going to the toilet. The pilot knows where turbulence is expected and communicated his expectations of safety to the passengers clearly by turning the indicator off. He also only allows meal service when he considers it safe. But sure, let's blame passengers. It can be everybody's fault, except the crew or the pilot who can never be at fault 👏 👏 👏

    • @vintubeable
      @vintubeable 24 дні тому +3

      It's true... When they announce, 'Seat belts on'... They mean it... Nobody... Not even the pilots can foresee the effect of the turbulence. It's in one's own interests of safety, seat belt should always be fastened to the maximum extent of the flight. That's the best safety practice.

    • @hydrazine799
      @hydrazine799 23 дні тому +2

      @@moonbalancedd Not really, clear air turbulence can't be picked up by weather equipment.

  • @lalaley4562
    @lalaley4562 24 дні тому +4

    It was reported that they were experiencing mild turbulence initially, like several bumps, but the major turbulence caused by clear air appeared sudden, thus when the pilot had sounded the seat belt sign the cabin crew were still serving with their trolleys and the rest of the passengers saw it flash and the ones who were standing or walking did not have enough time to rush back to their seats and fasten their seat belts before the rapid drop.

  • @Dovietail
    @Dovietail 24 дні тому +43

    Stop suggesting and start DEMANDING that people keep their seatbelts fastened when they are in their seats!

    • @kimpliny
      @kimpliny 24 дні тому +4

      Agree. People who don't like to wear belts will not do it on advice or demand anyway:).

    • @luschmiedt1071
      @luschmiedt1071 24 дні тому +1

      With Lufthansa after takeoff they say "you are required to fasten your seatbelts, even if the signs have been turned off" a second time. I don't know how other airlines do it

    • @1chickenpig
      @1chickenpig 24 дні тому +9

      This is extremely rare. We don't need further wrapping in cotton wool giving up freedoms for potential safety.
      Just put seatbelts on when advised and if it makes you feel better. Individual choice.

    • @luschmiedt1071
      @luschmiedt1071 24 дні тому +12

      @1chickenpig no if you Hit the ceiling and break your neck that's fine but you will come back down and your 200 pounds breaking my neck is not fine. I really don't understand why people want to be rebellious with such stupid things. No one is talking about pulling it tight.

    • @07Flash11MRC
      @07Flash11MRC 24 дні тому

      @@1chickenpig "giving up freedoms for potential safety": Lol, what freedoms are you giving up when you are advised to wear a seatbelt?

  • @sassasins031
    @sassasins031 24 дні тому +5

    Far too many people walk around the airplane without a care in the world and think they are safe as houses.
    Sit down as much as you can, put your seatbelt on loosely at all times, and get out of the way for the cabin crew.

    • @paullbennett2923
      @paullbennett2923 24 дні тому +2

      Its a thirteen hour flight you're supposed to get up and walk about ffs

  • @Jarocho2003
    @Jarocho2003 24 дні тому +2

    Praying for the families that had their loved ones in this flight...keep your seat belts on!

  • @Keepler22b
    @Keepler22b 24 дні тому +11

    I saw a paraglider getting caught in a powerful upward draft. Damn, that was nightmare. Pulled upwards in high speed, in snow and hail far up in the clouds.

  • @BobbyV0221
    @BobbyV0221 24 дні тому +1

    I was on a flight. I think it was 2009 from San Jose Costa Rica to Quito, Ecuador and there was a storm so bad that three times we tried to get in three times we got turned back and actually had to overnight in Columbia. It was such a scary time with the massive turbulence we went through, thank God they had the seatbelt sign on or our flight would've ended like this one. They had the service cart out and it came off the floor over a foot before crashing back down. The most scared I've ever been in my life I honestly thought we were dead.

  • @legendhasit2568
    @legendhasit2568 24 дні тому +2

    The best explanation of turbulence I’ve ever seen thank you for the video. What a great one.

  • @kiatwatgiattanonphds5551
    @kiatwatgiattanonphds5551 24 дні тому +5

    Thanks Thai emergency

  • @duartesimoes508
    @duartesimoes508 24 дні тому +2

    The terror was not at 37 000 feet, it _started_ there. Just keep buckled whenever seated and nothing will ever happen to you apart from the scare. A scare is nothing compared with being hit by the aircraft ceiling and have your neck broken.

  • @anrashid47
    @anrashid47 24 дні тому +11

    As a retired airline pilot , CAT(clear air turbulence) and accumulated weather clouds were always were our biggest threats. Today with climate change, the effects of these phenomena need to be taken very seriously - due to the effects of extreme surface temperatures and the depleting ozone layers . Above 20,000 feet amsl, turbulence is a real threat !! Pre-departure briefings need to be more detailed and thorough especially traversing the jetstream latitudes and arid regions of 20 to 40 degrees latitudes North or South where the earth's arid regions lie . So one needs to practice diligence in scrutinizing the met synoptics . The best means of modus operandi is avoidance of forecasted areas of threat !! I can only empathize with today's aviation operators. That's why i prefer surface mode of travel without all the airport hassles and weather !!!!

    • @hydrazine799
      @hydrazine799 23 дні тому +1

      One of the best comments here, kudos for sharing.

    • @maloudelosreyes661
      @maloudelosreyes661 23 дні тому +1

      Thanks.. Clear and concise explanation...

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 24 дні тому +1

    Excellent discussion by your guest. Thank you
    RS. Canada

  • @user-bw5pn4qv9i
    @user-bw5pn4qv9i 24 дні тому +1

    I think the FAA should initiate an investigation into how and why internal fixtures and fittings can get smashed up as seen.

  • @muzmason3064
    @muzmason3064 24 дні тому +3

    Always wear a seatbelt as a passenger. A Virgin LGW-Miami flight on his first 747 hit a pocket of clear air turbulance at about 2000ft we dropped like a stone down to about 800 ft, stuff hit the ceiling and stayed there.

  • @ragzpar
    @ragzpar 24 дні тому +1

    Explained very well. Was hoping he could talk about wind shear too.

  • @InK664
    @InK664 24 дні тому

    Very well said and explained thank you very much

  • @duk2k
    @duk2k 24 дні тому +8

    It’s during the meal service how do you expect the crew to wear their seatbelt? You are no aviation expert 😂

    • @sugoidessho
      @sugoidessho 24 дні тому +1

      Correct, and it's an obvious point. Cabin crew are the most vulnerable to sudden severe turbulence because aren't in their seats most of the flight, they're working.

  • @balakrishnans2605
    @balakrishnans2605 24 дні тому +6

    Wear always seat belt even the sign says one need not fasten the belt. Why blame anyone after all its one's life

  • @chriswitt2596
    @chriswitt2596 24 дні тому +4

    The comments said that the person that got killed had a heart attack

  • @blueseamarineltdblueseamar6053
    @blueseamarineltdblueseamar6053 24 дні тому +7

    Now the cockpit crew had no chanse to know or to find it. To 100 % they was out for CAT, i.e. clear air turbulence which can get such terrible effects s this one.

  • @Kylieleon
    @Kylieleon 24 дні тому +1

    As a passenger, I’d always fasten my seatbelt once seated! Cabin Crew are vulnerable as they are not secured once it’s a sudden turbulence!

  • @Traceishere
    @Traceishere 24 дні тому +4

    I love this guy, so clever, thank you for your EXPERT input,

  • @leas7830
    @leas7830 24 дні тому +4

    I have been in turbulance couple of times. It is very scary stuff when an aeroplane "drops" under you but you stomach doesn't.

  • @saramurphy345
    @saramurphy345 23 дні тому

    Thank you!

  • @user-dd1rg7sd9l
    @user-dd1rg7sd9l 24 дні тому +1

    I like to see an interview from a passenger with pilot experience as to what the weather was. I hope Singapore airlines gives that airplane a good inspection for damage, tgoo.

  • @zariwilmot8844
    @zariwilmot8844 22 дні тому

    Thank you so much for the reassurance. Mabuhay. I am flying from the UK to The Philippines on the 29th, hoping the monsoon weather will behave. 🙏

  • @jamessmith1652
    @jamessmith1652 24 дні тому

    A good analysis from a real expert. Not sensational, just scientific and good analogies. It sounds like the poor deceased was basically shocked/duressed into a heart attack. Sad.

  • @tripledelight8104
    @tripledelight8104 24 дні тому +8

    7K ft drop is very extreme high.
    Turbulence also known as air pockets, turbulence can cause a sudden loss of altitude temporarily.
    Most people don't realize " plunge at 7K feet " = 10+ stories high building.
    My airlines plunged only 20 feet, and already dozen people got hurt. Sometimes, you get a warning from pilots, sometimes not.
    On the long distance flight, most people sleep and some are listening to music, usually people ignore the warning light.

    • @donaldstanley4261
      @donaldstanley4261 24 дні тому +2

      Absolutely correct

    • @Brekbo7826
      @Brekbo7826 23 дні тому +2

      It didn’t plunge it was a controlled descent

    • @hydrazine799
      @hydrazine799 23 дні тому +2

      It's a 6k feet decrease in altitude over 3 minutes as per flight data, that's a normal descent rate. It was a controlled descent by the pilots to escape the nasty turbulence.

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 23 дні тому +1

      @@Brekbo7826 it DID plunge 6,000 foot for 4 minutes. Flight tracking data have confirmed this and it is read out by Singapore media. After the plunge it of course had a controlled descent.

    • @wf6190
      @wf6190 23 дні тому +1

      @@EGO0808 That's not a plunge it's a controlled descent. Don't you read other informed comments? Stop being dramatic

  • @memirandawong
    @memirandawong 24 дні тому

    Exactly, as a former glider pilot we used thermals, vertical movement of air, to our great advantage to gain altitude. Nonetheless when transiting from cloud to cloud I would slow my airspeed when encountering turbulence, which could shear up and down rapidly and violently. Shoulder harnesses typical of smaller aircraft and military planes kept me "snug" but it could get quite rough.

  • @Ro_-hk4yz
    @Ro_-hk4yz 24 дні тому

    so sorry for that man. always remember to be well fastened

  • @Xenc5
    @Xenc5 23 дні тому +1

    Insightful

  • @eddieleong6490
    @eddieleong6490 24 дні тому +15

    Very clear explanation. No advance warning and yet the plane descended over 4 minutes. Plane apparently did not change direction according to flight data, speed went up a bit. Okay the first instance was turbulence....plane went up and then down. But what happened after that? Why did the plane descended so much? Planes have all the means to ride out jet streams. I look forward to the technical investigation plus a detailed analysis of what the pilots did.

    • @kengleetan63
      @kengleetan63 24 дні тому +2

      99% pilot issue. Even if the pilot could see or expect turbulence, he could at least inform the passengers to belt up. He did not.
      Expect massive legal issue after this.

    • @mercurial5810
      @mercurial5810 24 дні тому +1

      @@kengleetan63 This does seem to to be the case.

    • @gtfj6cheb
      @gtfj6cheb 24 дні тому +1

      The seat belt sign was turned on before the plunge. But maybe they did not have enough time to react, as it happened during meal service.

    • @geraldsoon957
      @geraldsoon957 24 дні тому +3

      @@kengleetan63wow. You seams to be an expert. You are able to conclude its pilot’s issue. Are you on site? Do lend Singapore airlines and the Thai authorities your expertise.

    • @kengleetan63
      @kengleetan63 24 дні тому

      @@geraldsoon957 ...8 mths of bonus can pay compensation , no problem!

  • @sampono1962
    @sampono1962 24 дні тому +1

    there was another report saying thast the incident happened during meal time...hence, cabin crew were busy serving food and usually passenbgers unfastened seat belts when eating.

  • @eatdriveplay
    @eatdriveplay 24 дні тому +25

    Over-dramatized to say it plunged 7,000 feet, when it was over 5 minutes. At -1,200fpm, that would be a very normal descent. The details of how bad the turbulence, data-wise, specifically at which point in the flight and how far it went up or down...will only be known later in the investigation.

    • @chriscarol4965
      @chriscarol4965 24 дні тому +2

      It can already be seen on Flightradar24.

    • @eatdriveplay
      @eatdriveplay 24 дні тому +3

      @@chriscarol4965 i know. That’s what I’m saying, but there’s not enough fidelity in there to determine if that’s the turbulence or pilots descending.
      Those data often appear jumpy and may not be the turbulence itself.

    • @camilas2212
      @camilas2212 24 дні тому +1

      so the fact of the matter is that flightradar24 does not show that there was any turbulence at all.

    • @oreoten8283
      @oreoten8283 24 дні тому +2

      Overall, it may have been 7000 feet over 5 minutes, but the photos show a much more dramatic occurrence that happened within those 5 minutes where the +/- fpm were definitely more than 1200VSI. The way the cabin looked, and holes punctured from heads in the overhead doesn't happen from a 1200fpm descent. I don't think the report is trying to dramatize 7000 feet, they're merely reporting what is known at this time.

    • @stevencramsie9172
      @stevencramsie9172 24 дні тому +6

      Considering the damage to the inside of the cabin, including dents in the ceiling from where passengers hit it? Nothing overdramatized here at all.

  • @RoscoRide
    @RoscoRide 24 дні тому

    I flew Singapore air back from Singapore to JFK and 18 hour and 50 minute flight over the China Sea. There was a steady one hour of turbulence on the way back on April 25 this year.

  • @skyus364
    @skyus364 23 дні тому

    So far ...this it is one of the best description or explanation about what happened in the air with that plane.....no secret , no drama about it ...and the pilot actually hadlet the situation very well , he bring all the passengers down in the best shape he can included the plane , the gentleman ho died was for been scare ...heart failure.... ...

  • @rudranshkushwaha5676
    @rudranshkushwaha5676 24 дні тому

    How long did the turbulence last

  • @tims.467
    @tims.467 23 дні тому +1

    People, wear your seat belt when not up and moving around.

  • @silvarajoomuniandy4316
    @silvarajoomuniandy4316 24 дні тому

    Good explanation sir.

  • @robotmad
    @robotmad 23 дні тому

    Been on many flights with turbulence, some which were very scary which feel like a roller coaster ride. When you hear the bong and the seatbelt light comes on, buckle up and brace yourself !

  • @daypeete
    @daypeete 21 день тому

    Thailand’s crisis management skills is commendable. From Tsunami, Cave Rescue to SQ emergency landing , their responses were highly efficient. According to the news, all injured passengers were sent to the hospital within 30 minutes.

  • @EricK-mj7kr
    @EricK-mj7kr 23 дні тому

    Seat belt sign was turned shortly before the CAT. There were storms over the bay of bengal & the place is notorious for forming of cyclones.

  • @NurislamPopov
    @NurislamPopov 24 дні тому +2

    I mean, it's also a bit problematic if the ceiling panel drops down on your face. People need to accept, this is the reality of flying a Boeing, seatbelt fasten or not.

    • @stevencramsie9172
      @stevencramsie9172 24 дні тому +1

      the manufacturer of this airplane had absolutely nothing to do with what happened in this event. Stop overdramatizing things

    • @NurislamPopov
      @NurislamPopov 24 дні тому

      @@stevencramsie9172 Yea, I'm the drama here

    • @boeing747avg
      @boeing747avg 24 дні тому +1

      ⁠@@NurislamPopovyou really are. no need to act sarcastic when its true. super smart thinking to say it’s boeing’s fault for a plane flying into a natural phenomenon. you know absolutely nothing about aviation. your gullibility for the media is bleeding out hard.

  • @Sandhoeflyerhome
    @Sandhoeflyerhome 23 дні тому

    I remember David commentating on aviation in the 70’s … surprised he’s still alive

  • @nelsonchinasamy9857
    @nelsonchinasamy9857 22 дні тому

    I have experienced something like this and the pilot advises people to to remain seated with seat belts fastened. But humans are humans and there is always someone who nows better.

  • @user-te3jc3sl7r
    @user-te3jc3sl7r 22 дні тому +1

    Long haul flights I don't like. Can't relax 8-10 hours in a plane but I'm pretty good at not showing it. Very sad for the loss of this man and the injuries to others. Actually planes are more safer than cars to be in generally but problems do happen.

  • @gulagforgulags6967
    @gulagforgulags6967 23 дні тому

    Anyone who travelled more than 3 hrs air travel knows that is almost impossible to sit in your seat for more than that. As for the incident itself, it remains to be seen if it was "sudden turbulence" only or "sudden turbulence" AND pilot mistake and loss of plane stalling..

  • @ilanstauber2969
    @ilanstauber2969 24 дні тому +7

    Nobody is mentioning the possibility of another MCAS failure

    • @diamonddave2622
      @diamonddave2622 24 дні тому +4

      Why would a B777-300ER have MCAS?

    • @stevencramsie9172
      @stevencramsie9172 24 дні тому +4

      You should probably not be commenting on an industry you don’t understand. The 777-300 does not have MCAS, and it’s already been known that this was caused by severe clear air turbulence

    • @hermanengedal655
      @hermanengedal655 24 дні тому

      @@stevencramsie9172it’s satire

  • @joepaluka9031
    @joepaluka9031 23 дні тому

    Wise advice!

  • @soukainalaoui
    @soukainalaoui 24 дні тому +1

    So sad the poor guy had a heart attack he was an elderly man!

  • @hungo7720
    @hungo7720 23 дні тому

    The upshot here is always fasten your seatbelt while seated. When a turbulence or a jolt hits, you will be shielded from these threats. We can conspicuously see that those injured passengers ruptured the aircraft's ceiling.

  • @willcall9431
    @willcall9431 24 дні тому +2

    You can’t see turbulence. The only means of knowing about it is from pilot reports.

    • @jimbobafrodite
      @jimbobafrodite 24 дні тому +3

      Not exactly true, the pilots have a weather radar right in front of them on the flight deck, which shows where the really dangerous clouds are on their route. I'm an air traffic controller, most ask well in advance for a route to avoid the dangerous clouds, you get the occasional maverick who decides to try it (and then usually changes their mind when they find out how bad the ride is). But no, clear air turbulence is not detectable from the flight deck, and pilots will regularly ask for "ride reports" i.e. asking for us to check if other aircraft have reported anything bumpy at their altitude in the upcoming section of their route

  • @justinehayward2553
    @justinehayward2553 23 дні тому

    Happens a lot. Fasten your seat belt when you can. In fact, on two of my regular flights, turbulence reminds me of where I am, HK to Europe the Ural Mountains always wake me and over Borneo when flying HK to Indonesia.

  • @baighelp
    @baighelp 23 дні тому +1

    Since 747 left the skies, there is no fun in flying.

  • @Justyburger
    @Justyburger 23 дні тому

    I often used to wonder why the obsession with seatbelts on planes and this is it. I actually think, in the safety brief, that they should specifically say that seatbelts are for turbulence because a lot of people think seatbelts are a waste of time. This incident also shows how robust these aircraft are. I saw a picture once, of a stress test on the wings of a passenger aircraft and the wings were pulled up so much that the tips were almost touching each other. That showed me just how much flexibility the wings potentially have. Ever since then, I have never been concerned with turbulence. I've seen it more of an interesting thing, than a dangerous thing. But...I used to also experience turbulence in the helicopters that I would take to the North Sea Oil Rigs and that used to concern me more. Still....a chopper going down was extremely rare.

  • @robertking3090
    @robertking3090 24 дні тому

    i never heard much of something like this happing alot with older planes this is getting much more frequent I'm starting to think this is not turbulence at all but another issue that is being covered up.

  • @jtflypegasus
    @jtflypegasus 24 дні тому +2

    i wonder how long the turbulance lasted before it calmed down

    • @user-nu1sq2fz8s
      @user-nu1sq2fz8s 24 дні тому +1

      Obviously long enough

    • @niveram4768
      @niveram4768 24 дні тому +1

      90 seconds

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 23 дні тому

      4 minutes, it clearly states in the flight tracking data being published by Singapore media channels.

  • @rickredmond2393
    @rickredmond2393 24 дні тому

    The 1 man who died, died of heart attack or cardiac arrest. He was therefore not "kille," but rather, he simply died........difference.

  • @sugoidessho
    @sugoidessho 24 дні тому

    Cabin crew CANNOT keep their seat belts fastened during the entirety of a flight because they have to serve food and drinks throughout the flight and attend to passengers pressing the call buttons, preparing meals, cleaning the galley and toilets etc. They are therefore the most vulnerable when sudden severe turbulence occurs. Also, turbulence can also occur in 'clear' air, not just in stormy conditions with strong winds and heavy cloud formations. This particular plane hit a deep air pocket which cannot be seen on radar if it's in 'clear' air, so that's likely why the fasten seat belt sign wasn't turned on earlier. And yes air pockets do exist due to sudden changes in air density and wind direction. There is simply less dense air inside the pocket to sustain lift under the wings, hence the sudden drop.

  • @andrewwarui8355
    @andrewwarui8355 23 дні тому

    whatever it is we want a report, sorry for the loss.

  • @invisiblewing2002
    @invisiblewing2002 22 дні тому

    Around April of Songkran Festival, I also encountered an abnormal turbulence as I am wondering if the pilot is bad at handling

  • @BCFC1875Cruzeiro
    @BCFC1875Cruzeiro 24 дні тому +1

    The gentleman died because he had a heart condition...not from turbulence injuries.(probably shock)very sad. R.i.P. This is why you are told to keep your seat belt fastened when sitting.

  • @SwissooI
    @SwissooI 24 дні тому +1

    Uhhh the words should say 38155ft

  • @AlphardV55WR35
    @AlphardV55WR35 24 дні тому +1

    Just don't understand, how difficult to wear a seatbelt during flight ? And what's the down side to wear it ? I always told my kids, you don't have to wear it tight, wear it loose is ok, as long as you wear it in case of something happens ....! Anyway tons of people still say: That's my right wear it or not ! But the plane needed to detour to different place ....!!!!

  • @carine4318
    @carine4318 24 дні тому +1

    Keep your seat belt on AT ALL TIMES I flew for 28 years QF ex crew . Pilots can’t predict this have an appreciation for pilots . Clear air turbulence can’t be predicted

  • @edwardmyers8782
    @edwardmyers8782 23 дні тому

    Every flight i have ever been on you are instructed to keep your seatbelts fastened and it is not that uncomfortable, far less so than getting yourself slammed against the roof.

  • @vora_thk1118
    @vora_thk1118 24 дні тому +4

    Because it was during the monsoon.

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 23 дні тому

      It occurred high above the Irrawady Basin in Myanmar. It is currently inter monsoon season in Myanmar, so no, it is not due to the monsoon season.

  • @yellowlynx
    @yellowlynx 23 дні тому

    I always buckle up when seated in an aircraft, and if I have to use the toilet, I will do it as quickly as possible and get back to my seat and buckle up as soon as I can, because I experienced one before (though far less terrifying).

  • @BCFC1875Cruzeiro
    @BCFC1875Cruzeiro 24 дні тому +1

    This man is giving an explanation as if he is teaching pilots... simple answer is use your seatbelt at all times unless going to the Loo...

  • @bungfai2348
    @bungfai2348 23 дні тому

    3:00 never fly between 2 huge clouds.

  • @edwardmyers8782
    @edwardmyers8782 23 дні тому

    Clear air turbulence is almost impossible to see you usually have no warning and it can be extremely violent, if you get warning it is because an airplane in the same track radioed it in.

  • @11gugugaga11
    @11gugugaga11 23 дні тому

    The bay of Bengal has an active cyclone condition brewing.
    6000ft drop must've sent the innards of the aircraft in to zero G conditions

  • @RobertLewis-el9ub
    @RobertLewis-el9ub 24 дні тому

    Tip: wear your seatbelt! Warnings are always given by cabin crew to keep the seatbelt on during flight, but people just seem to ignore this advice.

  • @gary53
    @gary53 24 дні тому

    the guy had a heart attack NOT because of the turbulance...so many don't help themselves just constantly wondering around the cabin...

  • @gingerwong143
    @gingerwong143 23 дні тому

    According to the report, the crews were giving meals to all of the passengers.

  • @elizabethlee6049
    @elizabethlee6049 24 дні тому

    The Thai authorities are to be commended for the prompt and excellent services they provided.

  • @donnah5378
    @donnah5378 24 дні тому +3

    The man may have suffered the heart because of that 7000 ft drop 😮

    • @Brekbo7826
      @Brekbo7826 23 дні тому +2

      Why are you saying it’s a drop it was a controlled descent